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arcarsination
03/27/10, 03:41 PM
There's something to be said about music that's well produced. An artist who takes her time carefully planning out the intricacies of her work takes determined, deliberate steps in order to attain that perfect delivery. Studio producers meticulously mix the music, making sure each and every key stroke, snare hit and vocal harmony will influence the listener exactly as the artist intended. In the end, everything sounds flawless.

But does that flawlessness automatically make a listener's jaw drop in utter amazement? Will all that time invested in making sure every note is in its rightful place really make a listener's mind explode?
It can depend on the audience. For someone who's marginally interested in music (i.e., picks up an album once every few months), the production value in that album will be a huge selling point. As production value goes up, marketability is sure to follow.

Note: I'm not inferring here that the quality of the music will plummet as production goes up. But it's a pretty good guess that as the music becomes more accessible, there's probably a high production budget behind it. The higher the production, the more polished it will sound, and the easier it is to get into.

Others couldn't care less about the production behind the music. Some like it rough around the edges.

Although I'm known to indulge in some sugary sweet, highly polished music from time to time, I've found that the most sincere musicians will try to minimize the impact that production has on the music. It might be a matter of taste, but I absolutely love some of that raw, gritty music that makes you want to take a shower after repeated listens.

Now, that may be an exaggeration (I never want to take showers). A good amount of raw music can sound like garbage; due to a lack of focus, a poor budget, or general laziness on the musician's part. You know the sound. The final product invades your eardrums like the band recorded it with paper bags wrapped around the microphones.

But on the other hand, it's equally as sad to see so many artists now using production a crutch, as a substitute for solid musicianship.

It's a balancing act, I'm sure, and many bands are doing it right by keeping their voices away from the autotune. I generally believe, though, that more attention should be given to those trying their damnedest to be organic and unpolished. The gems might be few and far between, but they're worth the time to seek them out.

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Brand-new-123
03/27/10, 03:49 PM
tl;dr

Captain Awesome
03/27/10, 06:23 PM
You make valid points.
As a recording artist myself, I would rather spend hours on one single vocal take trying to get it right naturally, rather than just sing and Auto Tune it. I have a shitty voice to work with, but if I put the time in, and am coached by the producer properly, the results are usually satisfactory.

ReadyForAction
03/27/10, 09:29 PM
It's one thing if you have budget constraints, but not using the tools you have to make your music sound its best is ridiculous

Thomas Nassiff
03/27/10, 11:05 PM
I've debated this to myself a lot. A good example is Rise Against - The Sufferer and the Witness is well-produced and awesome, while The Unraveling is badly produced but is good in a different way. It's not a huge selling point for me, but obviously better-produced music is easier to listen to.

arcarsination
03/28/10, 05:15 AM
I've debated this to myself a lot. A good example is Rise Against - The Sufferer and the Witness is well-produced and awesome, while The Unraveling is badly produced but is good in a different way. It's not a huge selling point for me, but obviously better-produced music is easier to listen to.

Yes, exactly. I'm not saying that well produced music is bad at all. I want to just make the point, so as not to forget that production doesn't make the music, it supplements it. Although a badly produced album - bad levels, tracks that are recorded incorrectly, etc. - it can make for a rather uncomfortable experience for the listener. But it doesn't mean that the music itself is bad.

Good production needs to make the good parts of the music shine, and not drown out the intricacies and details of good musicianship.

arcarsination
03/28/10, 05:26 AM
You make valid points.
As a recording artist myself, I would rather spend hours on one single vocal take trying to get it right naturally, rather than just sing and Auto Tune it. I have a shitty voice to work with, but if I put the time in, and am coached by the producer properly, the results are usually satisfactory.

Right, it's also about the atmosphere that you're trying to produce. Although auto tune itself is a bit of a cop out if used to just augment a voice, I think it can be used quite creatively... such as in Bon Iver's "Woods" or Imogen Heap's "Hide and Seek". It all depends on what you're going for, that's why artists purposely having a ton of production on the vocals, guitars, etc. (or not) are both creative directions that should be embraced equally. The latter just doesn't get the exposure that the former does.

Thomas Nassiff
03/28/10, 09:08 AM
Yes, exactly. I'm not saying that well produced music is bad at all. I want to just make the point, so as not to forget that production doesn't make the music, it supplements it. Although a badly produced album - bad levels, tracks that are recorded incorrectly, etc. - it can make for a rather uncomfortable experience for the listener. But it doesn't mean that the music itself is bad.

Good production needs to make the good parts of the music shine, and not drown out the intricacies and details of good musicianship.

Yeah, agreed. You're all about those bold words, huh, man?

Deadbolt23
03/28/10, 09:55 AM
I don't mind auto-tune. It's just a production technique. You'd think someone was stupid if they said that they didn't like any music with distorted guitars in. The problem lies with the fact that the majority of music heavily featuring autotune is pants.
I really think the musicianship is the problem rather than the production.

arcarsination
03/28/10, 10:08 AM
Yeah, agreed. You're all about those bold words, huh, man?

Yeah, dude. Makes you feel bold. Try it.

Blakee
03/28/10, 01:24 PM
A Day To Remember's album And Their Name Was Treason is comparatively poorly produced since it's their first album, but it's still really good.

briewer
03/28/10, 02:39 PM
I prefer music that sounds like shit than stuff that is properly mastered.

arcarsination
03/28/10, 04:44 PM
A Day To Remember's album And Their Name Was Treason is comparatively poorly produced since it's their first album, but it's still really good.

Yeah, there's a ton of good stuff out there that shines, even though it's not really well produced. It's a strange phenomenon, when it happens, it's great.

xJesusFreakx
03/28/10, 04:49 PM
I prefer music that sounds like shit than stuff that is properly mastered.

Depends, but this is often the case. I mean, sometimes a nice polish really compliments the song (see: Top 40 pop singles), but for more rock or acoustic-based music, I tend to prefer something raw, letting the instruments really breathe. Clean production can make or break an album, but which is better depends on the specific situation.

arcarsination
03/29/10, 05:44 PM
Depends, but this is often the case. I mean, sometimes a nice polish really compliments the song (see: Top 40 pop singles), but for more rock or acoustic-based music, I tend to prefer something raw, letting the instruments really breathe. Clean production can make or break an album, but which is better depends on the specific situation.

Yeah, I definitely agree with that. It's all about preference, and the feel that the musician is going for. You make a good point with the acoustic stuff, I tend to think that that's what acoustic stuff is all about - the raw and gritty, not highly refined and polished.