Little League

[FondestMemory]

there was a topic on dan patrick's radio show that was pretty interesting and got pretty heated. figured i'd give it a go in here and see people's thoughts.

in a little league game somewhere, it was the championship game. on one of the teams was a 9 year old who survived cancer.

the last inning, tying run on third with two outs, cancer survivor's team up to bat. the best player on that team is up with the cancer survivor on deck.

the opposing coach has the pitcher intentionally walk the best player to get to the kid who survived cancer.

granted, these are 8-9 year old kids and it's technically a non-competitive league to mostly teach the kids the game and give them something to do.

is he sending the wrong message to young kids? or is he just competitive and trying to win the game? thoughts?

[xbrokendownx]

in all the little league games ive seen/been apart of, i cant remember one intentional walk.


thats a little messed up i guess

[fire on my lips]

I've seen intentional walks. I can understand it happening just because it's such a competitive thing. You want to get to the next round so that you can play in the little league world series. It's a big deal to the kids if you get that far. I wish I got to play in it.

If it was a local league game, i think it would be stupid, but I'm assuming it's a travel team that was trying to get into the LLWS.
Who won btw?

[Dirty Ernie]

i thought you were going to tell me the kid with cancer went papi on that fuckin coach

[preppyak]

I've seen intentional walks. I can understand it happening just because it's such a competitive thing. You want to get to the next round so that you can play in the little league world series. It's a big deal to the kids if you get that far. I wish I got to play in it.

If it was a local league game, i think it would be stupid, but I'm assuming it's a travel team that was trying to get into the LLWS.
Who won btw?
The kids in the LLWS are 12-13...not 8 or 9. This must have been a more local game. Even so, at taht age, even soccer a while back wasn't that competitive at that age. You got a random group of kids and played for fun every Saturday.

This is clearly fucked up in my mind...too young to instill that competitive ethic, especially at the risk of decency and tact
i thought you were going to tell me the kid with cancer went papi on that fuckin coach

Haha...and we'd have our new J-Mac story

[Chriz2z]

If the cancer survivor is up right after the best player on the team, he most be pretty good too. And if not, the coach for the team with the cancer survivor is an idiot. Plus, it's a baseball game and the kid beat cancer which is swell and all but I'm not sure how much they correlate to each other.

Edit: I did read they are 8-9 earlier and if that is true then the coach is probably pretty messed.

[fire on my lips]

The kids in the LLWS are 12-13...not 8 or 9. This must have been a more local game. Even so, at taht age, even soccer a while back wasn't that competitive at that age. You got a random group of kids and played for fun every Saturday.

My bad i didn't see the age at all. I read it quickly.

I agree with Chriz2z, the cancer survivor probably is pretty good too.

[FondestMemory]

it was a non-competitive league though, so the lineup isn't necessarily how you'd think. a lot of those leagues make coaches switch the lineup every game so parents don't bitch about their kid always batting last or what not.

so because he's batting behind the best player doesn't mean he's also good. just means that's how the lineup came out that day.

and he was still weak, because he beat cancer fairly recently. so it was hard for him to even pick up a bat. but again, before anybody says he shouldn't even be playing under those circumstances, they were 8-9 year olds in a non competitive league. the kid has the right to have fun like anybody else.

[thejetstolehome]

at 8-9, that's beyond fucked up. WELL beyond fucked up. baseball at that age is for fun and to learn as it's been stated.

[FondestMemory]

also, the kid who was told to pitch the intentional walk, felt like such shit after doing it that he skipped the all-star tryouts the next day.

[Chriz2z]

it was a non-competitive league though, so the lineup isn't necessarily how you'd think. a lot of those leagues make coaches switch the lineup every game so parents don't bitch about their kid always batting last or what not.

so because he's batting behind the best player doesn't mean he's also good. just means that's how the lineup came out that day.

and he was still weak, because he beat cancer fairly recently. so it was hard for him to even pick up a bat. but again, before anybody says he shouldn't even be playing under those circumstances, they were 8-9 year olds in a non competitive league. the kid has the right to have fun like anybody else.
If these are the circumstances I take back what I say before... and the coach who wanted to win the game is completely screwed up.

[thejetstolehome]

also, the kid who was told to pitch the intentional walk, felt like such shit after doing it that he skipped the all-star tryouts the next day.

i'm sure if he didn't do the intentional walk, the coach would've ozzied his ass.

[preppyak]

also, the kid who was told to pitch the intentional walk, felt like such shit after doing it that he skipped the all-star tryouts the next day.
taht sucks...but, he's still so young, a coach has a huge influence there
i'm sure if he didn't do the intentional walk, the coach would've ozzied his ass.
haha...send his ass down to tee-ball

[thejetstolehome]

taht sucks...but, he's still so young, a coach has a huge influence there

haha...send his ass down to tee-ball

hahaha so degrading. in semi-related news, my co-workers, campers and i beat the hell out of some other camp that was at the beach with us today in wiffle ball. i pwned one of their counselors by hitting a monster 100' shot on his first pitch to me then backwards King his ass in the next inning.

[hockey0001]

since its apparently a non-competitive league then its kinda messed up. But also, if its a non-competite league, why are there playoffs and a championship game?

[Broken Parachute]

If a coach is going to IBB a 9 year old, he should just tell his pitcher to throw balls..not do an official IBB I guess. It looks a little better. It is kinda messed up.

[bigmike]

competitive league or not, intentional walks shouldn't be apart of a little league with 9 year old kids. that shit shouldn't start until like, high school or something.

[FondestMemory]

since its apparently a non-competitive league then its kinda messed up. But also, if its a non-competite league, why are there playoffs and a championship game?

that's the part that confused me too. why is there a championship game, and why are intentional walks allowed?

[preppyak]

that's the part that confused me too. why is there a championship game, and why are intentional walks allowed?

yeah...if I remember the one year of baseball I played, it was in that age time...so, things like stealing and walks weren't allowed. If a pitcher got 4 balls, the coach came in and pitched.

We had a playoff and championship, but the felt really informal, and I don't think any of the coaches cared about winning so much as people having fun.

[The Matt Kaufman]

no reason to intentional walk in little league. plain out stupid

[preppyak]

no reason to intentional walk in little league. plain out stupid

they don't even pitch around kids in the LLWS...I mean, even when that kid from Japan was dominating, they didn't pitch around him.

[FondestMemory]

they don't even pitch around kids in the LLWS...I mean, even when that kid from Japan was dominating, they didn't pitch around him.

i haven't looked it up, nor watched much llws, but is it legal? are intentional walks even allowed?

[preppyak]

i haven't looked it up, nor watched much llws, but is it legal? are intentional walks even allowed?

no idea..my guess is no...since they have the every kid must play rule, I doubt they allow it

I like it that way, I hate the rule that you can intentionally walk someone...I understand the strategy...but I'd rather just see a pitcher know he is beaten and take his punishment

[sayyes]

if the cancer kid is batting behind the best player he can't be that bad himself (tho i disagree with intentional walks at that age)

[FondestMemory]

if the cancer kid is batting behind the best player he can't be that bad himself (tho i disagree with intentional walks at that age)

way to skip the rest of the thread to get that out there.

[bigmike]

way to skip the rest of the thread to get that out there.
reading entire threads to make sure you're not repeating something that was always discussed to help yourself not look like a fucktard is for n00bs.

[Chriz2z]

reading entire threads to make sure you're not repeating something that was always discussed to help yourself not look like a fucktard is for n00bs.
So on our test to enter the forum... we need to have a sample thread and have someone give a response and have something like this in it.

[sayyes]

my bad

[Chriz2z]

my bad
Don't take it too personally... we can really chew some up and spit em out in here. You didn't make any major mistakes.

Edit: Except for living in Norman... please tell me you don't like OU.

[preppyak]

Don't take it too personally... we can really chew some up and spit em out in here. You didn't make any major mistakes.

Edit: Except for living in Norman... please tell me you don't like OU.

hahaha...hope he's not a college basketball fan

[StandMyBrothers]

I believe intentional walks are allowd at 9. Then again I was about 4 ft 2 and I'd get pegged/walked once at least every game. but then again I played Pony, because Little League was really not competitive at all around that time. It still isn't too competitive in my area.

[FondestMemory]

I believe intentional walks are allowd at 9. Then again I was about 4 ft 2 and I'd get pegged/walked once at least every game. but then again I played Pony, because Little League was really not competitive at all around that time. It still isn't too competitive in my area.

i got beaned a shit ton because i was one of the few left handed batters in the league.

[bigmike]

i got beaned a shit ton because i was one of the few left handed batters in the league.
i was beaned because i was the fat kid with slow reactions... :unsure:

[preppyak]

i was beaned because i was the fat kid with slow reactions... :unsure:

haha

[LeftWideOpen]

i got beaned a shit ton because i was one of the few left handed batters in the league.

same here. i took one in the face once when i squared to bunt. the kid threw heat, too.

[preppyak]

same here. i took one in the face once when i squared to bunt. the kid threw heat, too.

my best friend was a pitcher...his catchers had to wear a cup due to his wildness in pitching...

and getting beaned made me afraid to step in and hit...probably why I eventually stopped playing. I was good in the field, and on the base path..but, I hated hitting

[bigmike]

my best friend was a pitcher...his catchers had to wear a cup due to his wildness in pitching...

and getting beaned made me afraid to step in and hit...probably why I eventually stopped playing. I was good in the field, and on the base path..but, I hated hitting
it was the reason i quit. I just got hit so much. but i loved playing the field... and i was just slow around the basepaths.

But, i played hockey too, which i loved more, so it worked out well.


same here. i took one in the face once when i squared to bunt. the kid threw heat, too.
I took one in the head. but it was like, one of the only helmets manufactured within the last 15 years at the time, that the little league had, so i wasn't hurt.

[preppyak]

I took one in the head. but it was like, one of the only helmets manufactured within the last 15 years at the time, that the little league had, so i wasn't hurt.

Yeah...you could have ended up looking like Drew Neitzel

[bigmike]

Yeah...you could have ended up looking like Drew Neitzel
hahahaha. thank god for that.


now i just look like John Candy and Andy Milonakis had a kid. :dry:

[preppyak]

hahahaha. thank god for that.


now i just look like John Candy and Andy Milonakis had a kid. :dry:
Meh...gets you a few b movies and a bad TV show...not too bad.

[bigmike]

Meh...gets you a few b movies and a bad TV show...not too bad.
if i could get their bank accounts, i'd be set.

[StandMyBrothers]

so ridicolous, in my final year of baseball in 8th grade. I got pegged 30 something times that season, it was fucking gay.

[sayyes]

hahaha...hope he's not a college basketball fan
possibly, but not dillusional enough to think ou's bball program will ever consistently be that good

[preppyak]

possibly, but not dillusional enough to think ou's bball program will ever consistently be that good

If Sampson had stayed...you'd be 2nd or 3rd in the Big 12, probalby top 25 this season no doubt...but, when you lose all your recruits on his abandon ship routine...not so much

[xbrokendownx]

possibly, but not dillusional enough to think ou's bball program will ever consistently be that good







thanks for scottie reynolds! :lolatu:

[sayyes]

ya ou isn't in the best graces w/the ncaa right now

[sayyes]

thanks for scottie reynolds! :lolatu:
ya we figured nova needed some help :unsure:

[xbrokendownx]

ya we figured nova needed some help :unsure:





haha thanks!

i think its underappreciated how big that is, actually. hes probably going to start at PG for us this year

[fire on my lips]

Rick Reilly's column in the new SI is about this. Apparently the cancer survivor is the worst player on the team.

[KB3RG]

three homeruns...steroids?

[The Matt Kaufman]

whos in the regional championship for the east?

[LeftWideOpen]

whos in the regional championship for the east?

for new england, its glastonbury, CT vs Portsmouth, NH. It's on today at 1

The team from Vermont actually beat Portsmouth yesterday but had to forfeit because they didnt have all their players bat once and play an inning in the field ..which is Little League rules. I'd be furious at the coach if I was one of the kid's parents.

[fire on my lips]

for new england, its glastonbury, CT vs Portsmouth, NH. It's on today at 1

The team from Vermont actually beat Portsmouth yesterday but had to forfeit because they didnt have all their players bat once and play an inning in the field ..which is Little League rules. I'd be furious at the coach if I was one of the kid's parents.
Sucks for those kids . . .

[StandMyBrothers]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=heroescancomeinpintsizep&prov=tsn&type=lgns
so yeah that story made it too yahoo. after its been debated for a couple days.

[preppyak]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=heroescancomeinpintsizep&prov=tsn&type=lgns
so yeah that story made it too yahoo. after its been debated for a couple days.

Sporting News is gaining my respect...they hooked me with Mike DeCourcy and college b-ball stuff, and now this guy spins the story the correct way...

Nicely written, great take...give that man a raise