My Thoughts on the Scene

[emopunkfan]

My Thoughts On The Scene
The scene is in trouble. Some days i think, man i wish it was 2004, or 2005 when the scene wasn’t so mainstream. I listened to bands like NFG, The Used, Sum 41, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Starting Line, Hawthorne Heights and so many more. There were so many new bands coming out that I loved and could relate to. Nowadays, these new bands i cant really relate to or even like. I mean there’s Four Year Strong, Set Your Goals, and The Swellers, but not to many.

It seems that every band either sings about partying, powerpop girl music. Straight hair, sunglasses, neon, v neck shirts. Dont get me wrong i love partying, but sweet jesus one song is enough, not 1,000. And stop covering rap songs. Think of your own shit. Every day on AP.net i see news of a band covering Lady Gaga, and Lil Wayne. It makes me sick. It doesnt belong in the scene. Cover songs by Blink or NFG. Bands that matter.

The worst part is this is Rap/Crunkcore in the scene right now. For something white guys in rock bands think they can rap. Just because your from the ATL, doesnt mean you can or should rap, Family Force 5! Your lead singer looks like a fucking toolbag, wearing a replica of the WWE Championship, what are you five. Also another Crunkcore band i cant is Breathe Carolina. Ive seen multiple interviews with them and i can say they are the frat boys of our scene.

Every artists says there music will make you want to dance. Well i dont want to fucking dance. I want to rock out and mosh. Gabe go back to Midtown, and you dont need a fucking security guards. Security guards are for pop stars and rappers.

Co-writing. Seems that every band in “our scene.” Has co-writers and like 5 producers on there album. Whatever happened to the bands writing there own songs, and having one producer. Take a band like Hey Monday. Most of Cassadee’s tweets are shes co-writing with someone today. Come on really? Theres so many bands that have co-writers on there songs now, i cant even count. The originality is gone in the scene.

Sex Appeal. The scene is like 1983. Bands just care about there image. Im sick of bands using sex appeal to win over 13 year old girls. When i listen to a band, i can give a shit how there hair and clothes look like. Yea so these bands look pretty, but there music is horse shit. I watched a video of a band (Cash Cash), wanting girls to take of shirts and show there boobs. When i see them im going to kick there ass. I have a sister and I think this is horrible. Every frontman now has nice gel hair, and some skin showing to get those 13 year old girls. I think people just want to be in a band just to get girls. Some old timers arent helping the situation. Take the lead singer of The All-AMerican Rejects Tyson. I remember when he was just on stage with a t-shirt and jeans. When there new album came out. He’s shirtless, has makeup and glitter all over his body. WTF?! If you saw the recent AAR performence on Kimmel, he made out with like 4 girls during the performence. Have some class dude.

The scene is in trouble and we need to fix it. Here are some bands that are killing the scene: Brokencyde, Breathe Carolina, Forever The Sickest Shit (its not high school anymore fellows) The Maine, Sing It Loud, Cash Cash, jesus theres to many to mention, going to stop there.

follow my blog: http://emopunkfan182.tumblr.com/

[SophGod]

You clearly aren't looking hard enough for good bands in the scene today. Besides, who needs new bands in the scene when you've got bands that were around in the mid 00's still making awesome music?

[bradsonemanband]

The scene is in trouble. Some days i think, man i wish it was 2004, or 2005 when the scene wasn’t so mainstream. I listened to bands like NFG, The Used, Sum 41, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Starting Line, Hawthorne Heights and so many more. There were so many new bands coming out that I loved and could relate to. Nowadays, these new bands i cant really relate to or even like. I mean there’s Four Year Strong, Set Your Goals, and The Swellers, but not to many.

i hate to say it, but we're getting older man... if we were still in high school, we'd probably like the shit that's out these days.

[turnerkr_uk]

there = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/there

their = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/their

they're = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/they're

learn the difference, that's all i have to say...

[live.]

Stop reading after you implied that Set Your Goals is part of the dying scene.

[kearn1tm]

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[kearn1tm]

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[emopunkfan]

Stop reading after you implied that Set Your Goals is part of the dying scene.

SYG is one of my favorite bands, and they are part of the scene right now, and i think the scene is dying

[kearn1tm]

My Thoughts On The Scene
The scene is in trouble. Some days i think, man i wish it was 2004, or 2005 when the scene wasn’t so mainstream. I listened to bands like NFG, The Used, Sum 41, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Starting Line, Hawthorne Heights and so many more. There were so many new bands coming out that I loved and could relate to. Nowadays, these new bands i cant really relate to or even like. I mean there’s Four Year Strong, Set Your Goals, and The Swellers, but not to many.

It seems that every band either sings about partying, powerpop girl music. Straight hair, sunglasses, neon, v neck shirts. Dont get me wrong i love partying, but sweet jesus one song is enough, not 1,000. And stop covering rap songs. Think of your own shit. Every day on AP.net i see news of a band covering Lady Gaga, and Lil Wayne. It makes me sick. It doesnt belong in the scene. Cover songs by Blink or NFG. Bands that matter.

The worst part is this is Rap/Crunkcore in the scene right now. For something white guys in rock bands think they can rap. Just because your from the ATL, doesnt mean you can or should rap, Family Force 5! Your lead singer looks like a fucking toolbag, wearing a replica of the WWE Championship, what are you five. Also another Crunkcore band i cant is Breathe Carolina. Ive seen multiple interviews with them and i can say they are the frat boys of our scene.

Every artists says there music will make you want to dance. Well i dont want to fucking dance. I want to rock out and mosh. Gabe go back to Midtown, and you dont need a fucking security guards. Security guards are for pop stars and rappers.

Co-writing. Seems that every band in “our scene.” Has co-writers and like 5 producers on there album. Whatever happened to the bands writing there own songs, and having one producer. Take a band like Hey Monday. Most of Cassadee’s tweets are shes co-writing with someone today. Come on really? Theres so many bands that have co-writers on there songs now, i cant even count. The originality is gone in the scene.

Sex Appeal. The scene is like 1983. Bands just care about there image. Im sick of bands using sex appeal to win over 13 year old girls. When i listen to a band, i can give a shit how there hair and clothes look like. Yea so these bands look pretty, but there music is horse shit. I watched a video of a band (Cash Cash), wanting girls to take of shirts and show there boobs. When i see them im going to kick there ass. I have a sister and I think this is horrible. Every frontman now has nice gel hair, and some skin showing to get those 13 year old girls. I think people just want to be in a band just to get girls. Some old timers arent helping the situation. Take the lead singer of The All-AMerican Rejects Tyson. I remember when he was just on stage with a t-shirt and jeans. When there new album came out. He’s shirtless, has makeup and glitter all over his body. WTF?! If you saw the recent AAR performence on Kimmel, he made out with like 4 girls during the performence. Have some class dude.

The scene is in trouble and we need to fix it. Here are some bands that are killing the scene: Brokencyde, Breathe Carolina, Forever The Sickest Shit (its not high school anymore fellows) The Maine, Sing It Loud, Cash Cash, jesus theres to many to mention, going to stop there.

follow my blog: http://emopunkfan182.tumblr.com/

That's fascinating and relates entirely to this:

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[Pat k]

The scene
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[kearn1tm]

It's Funny Because I'm White Too!

[wawanice]

what scene?

[zachff]

That was some of the worst writing I have ever seen. I can't even bring my mind to form words about how bad that was.

[Jake Denning]

Liciakasher made a fake account. go figure.

[pnkhrdwndr]

it's true pop punk is not what it used to be, but still there are so many good bands out there why don't you get off the sinking ship that is pop punk and get on to a new one. I can barely listen to any of the new pop punk bands because they all sound the same that is why I listen to what ever is different, what ever has talent, what ever I want to listen to.

[prefix-core]

People have been talking about a "dead/dying scene" since the eighties. The bands who care more about style over substance are the ones people tend to notice more. Bands like Set Your Goals and the like becoming popular is pretty much a fluke.

Dig a bit below the surface. I promise you'll be able to find something that your ears will like and your brain/heart/whatever the fuck you choose to feel with will appreciate as well. The next Thursday, the next Lifetime, the next Bouncing Souls, whatever...They're out there. Try your local bar or a friend's basement. They're probably playing there this weekend.

[NateFoundGlory]

Sweet rant, bro. Bitching solves nothing.

[DanTGD]

My thoughts on the scene:

Douchebags think they know better and that their choice in music is the right one, and go to the internet thinking their opinion is important, not taking into account that not everything thinks exactly the same as said douchebag.

This leads to bands being overhyped because they are "real" when really it's just a fact that you discovered them a few weeks before the majority, and once they are discovered you'll drop them because they "sold out".

[kearn1tm]

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[popdisaster00]

My Thoughts On The Scene
The scene is in trouble. Some days i think, man i wish it was 2004, or 2005 when the scene wasn’t so mainstream. I listened to bands like NFG, The Used, Sum 41, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Starting Line, Hawthorne Heights and so many more. There were so many new bands coming out that I loved and could relate to. Nowadays, these new bands i cant really relate to or even like. I mean there’s Four Year Strong, Set Your Goals, and The Swellers, but not to many.

It seems that every band either sings about partying, powerpop girl music. Straight hair, sunglasses, neon, v neck shirts. Dont get me wrong i love partying, but sweet jesus one song is enough, not 1,000. And stop covering rap songs. Think of your own shit. Every day on AP.net i see news of a band covering Lady Gaga, and Lil Wayne. It makes me sick. It doesnt belong in the scene. Cover songs by Blink or NFG. Bands that matter.

The worst part is this is Rap/Crunkcore in the scene right now. For something white guys in rock bands think they can rap. Just because your from the ATL, doesnt mean you can or should rap, Family Force 5! Your lead singer looks like a fucking toolbag, wearing a replica of the WWE Championship, what are you five. Also another Crunkcore band i cant is Breathe Carolina. Ive seen multiple interviews with them and i can say they are the frat boys of our scene.

Every artists says there music will make you want to dance. Well i dont want to fucking dance. I want to rock out and mosh. Gabe go back to Midtown, and you dont need a fucking security guards. Security guards are for pop stars and rappers.

Co-writing. Seems that every band in “our scene.” Has co-writers and like 5 producers on there album. Whatever happened to the bands writing there own songs, and having one producer. Take a band like Hey Monday. Most of Cassadee’s tweets are shes co-writing with someone today. Come on really? Theres so many bands that have co-writers on there songs now, i cant even count. The originality is gone in the scene.

Sex Appeal. The scene is like 1983. Bands just care about there image. Im sick of bands using sex appeal to win over 13 year old girls. When i listen to a band, i can give a shit how there hair and clothes look like. Yea so these bands look pretty, but there music is horse shit. I watched a video of a band (Cash Cash), wanting girls to take of shirts and show there boobs. When i see them im going to kick there ass. I have a sister and I think this is horrible. Every frontman now has nice gel hair, and some skin showing to get those 13 year old girls. I think people just want to be in a band just to get girls. Some old timers arent helping the situation. Take the lead singer of The All-AMerican Rejects Tyson. I remember when he was just on stage with a t-shirt and jeans. When there new album came out. He’s shirtless, has makeup and glitter all over his body. WTF?! If you saw the recent AAR performence on Kimmel, he made out with like 4 girls during the performence. Have some class dude.

The scene is in trouble and we need to fix it. Here are some bands that are killing the scene: Brokencyde, Breathe Carolina, Forever The Sickest Shit (its not high school anymore fellows) The Maine, Sing It Loud, Cash Cash, jesus theres to many to mention, going to stop there.

follow my blog: http://emopunkfan182.tumblr.com/
The "scene" was already in trouble in 2005, when you thought it was good

[yellowhouse]

Thank you for enlightening us all.

Also: if you cant find good music in the "scene"...maybe you should try looking somewhere else?

[p93]

Sometimes I think I'll have 16-year-old music taste for the rest of my life too man. 16 being '04 for me.

[HometownHero]

:lol:

[kearn1tm]

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[KingJohn_654]

Oh noooo00zz! tEh sc3n3 is dieding!!

[simplejack]

simply useless

[Auals]

Grow up. Dude, you're 19. Your'e only one year younger than me, can you honestly say your music tastes haven't changed since you started listening to music? If not then you're clearly one of those morons who shouldn't have an opinion.

There. I said it. Grow up, realise you're not that kid anymore, get out and listen to newer music stop being so fucking afraid cos it's different.

Don't get me wrong, I still listen to some of the music I used to, and throwing on Take Off Your Pants And Jacket is still a fun way to rock out (blink was my favourite band when I was 14) but still, how can you not listen to a Wilco album, a bright eyes album, heck even a say anything album and have your musical tastes change on the spot? Don't be a moron. The scene doesn't die, it changes, just like you do. The scene you remember won't be the scene your kids know, stop acting like you'ree the be all and end all of importance. Jesus christ.

[ryanhorizons]

what this "scene" you talk about. idiots

[marchintothesea]

theres so many great bands to look for outside that scene

[bladerdude360]

Lol.

[ETGsynth]

My Thoughts On The Scene
The scene is in trouble. Some days i think, man i wish it was 2004, or 2005 when the scene wasn’t so mainstream. I listened to bands like NFG, The Used, Sum 41, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Starting Line, Hawthorne Heights and so many more. There were so many new bands coming out that I loved and could relate to. Nowadays, these new bands i cant really relate to or even like. I mean there’s Four Year Strong, Set Your Goals, and The Swellers, but not to many.

It seems that every band either sings about partying, powerpop girl music. Straight hair, sunglasses, neon, v neck shirts. Dont get me wrong i love partying, but sweet jesus one song is enough, not 1,000. And stop covering rap songs. Think of your own shit. Every day on AP.net i see news of a band covering Lady Gaga, and Lil Wayne. It makes me sick. It doesnt belong in the scene. Cover songs by Blink or NFG. Bands that matter.

The worst part is this is Rap/Crunkcore in the scene right now. For something white guys in rock bands think they can rap. Just because your from the ATL, doesnt mean you can or should rap, Family Force 5! Your lead singer looks like a fucking toolbag, wearing a replica of the WWE Championship, what are you five. Also another Crunkcore band i cant is Breathe Carolina. Ive seen multiple interviews with them and i can say they are the frat boys of our scene.

Every artists says there music will make you want to dance. Well i dont want to fucking dance. I want to rock out and mosh. Gabe go back to Midtown, and you dont need a fucking security guards. Security guards are for pop stars and rappers.

Co-writing. Seems that every band in “our scene.” Has co-writers and like 5 producers on there album. Whatever happened to the bands writing there own songs, and having one producer. Take a band like Hey Monday. Most of Cassadee’s tweets are shes co-writing with someone today. Come on really? Theres so many bands that have co-writers on there songs now, i cant even count. The originality is gone in the scene.

Sex Appeal. The scene is like 1983. Bands just care about there image. Im sick of bands using sex appeal to win over 13 year old girls. When i listen to a band, i can give a shit how there hair and clothes look like. Yea so these bands look pretty, but there music is horse shit. I watched a video of a band (Cash Cash), wanting girls to take of shirts and show there boobs. When i see them im going to kick there ass. I have a sister and I think this is horrible. Every frontman now has nice gel hair, and some skin showing to get those 13 year old girls. I think people just want to be in a band just to get girls. Some old timers arent helping the situation. Take the lead singer of The All-AMerican Rejects Tyson. I remember when he was just on stage with a t-shirt and jeans. When there new album came out. He’s shirtless, has makeup and glitter all over his body. WTF?! If you saw the recent AAR performence on Kimmel, he made out with like 4 girls during the performence. Have some class dude.

The scene is in trouble and we need to fix it. Here are some bands that are killing the scene: Brokencyde, Breathe Carolina, Forever The Sickest Shit (its not high school anymore fellows) The Maine, Sing It Loud, Cash Cash, jesus theres to many to mention, going to stop there.

follow my blog: http://emopunkfan182.tumblr.com/

You are what's wrong with the "scene".

[saveferris]

i hate to say it, but we're getting older man... if we were still in high school, we'd probably like the shit that's out these days.
Not neccesarily.

[saveferris]

You are what's wrong with the "scene".
how so?

[saveferris]

Honestly, complaining about the scene is outdated.

[saveferris]

People have been talking about a "dead/dying scene" since the eighties. The bands who care more about style over substance are the ones people tend to notice more. Bands like Set Your Goals and the like becoming popular is pretty much a fluke.

Dig a bit below the surface. I promise you'll be able to find something that your ears will like and your brain/heart/whatever the fuck you choose to feel with will appreciate as well. The next Thursday, the next Lifetime, the next Bouncing Souls, whatever...They're out there. Try your local bar or a friend's basement. They're probably playing there this weekend.
this. Unfortunately you have to do some C.S.I style searching sometimes to find good bands these days.

[bradsonemanband]

Not neccesarily.

hence "probably"

[saveferris]

You clearly aren't looking hard enough for good bands in the scene today. Besides, who needs new bands in the scene when you've got bands that were around in the mid 00's still making awesome music?
this.

[saveferris]

hence "probably"
woops.

[prefix-core]

this. Unfortunately you have to do some C.S.I style searching sometimes to find good bands these days.

Haha. Maybe just a bit overdramatic there, but definitely agreed. I find that looking into bands touring with bands you like is a sure thing. Friends of bands via MySpace is another. LastFM is a decent source as well...

Isn't that part of the fun of being a music fan? I've just always viewed finding new music as part of the fun, not a chore. If people would spend less time worrying about their fucking clothes, trying to get laid, "pre-gaming," et cetra before shows...Maybe they would bother checking out a new band.

Sorry to sound so cynical (even though I feel like I may be preaching to the choir) but...The problem isn't the bands. It's the fans.

[bradsonemanband]

woops.

its ok. i love you.

[Yellowcard2006]

Man Overboard

The Wonder Years

This Time Next Year

Balance and Composure



This scene is fine.

[Alex_supertramp]

My thoughts on the scene:

Douchebags think they know better and that their choice in music is the right one, and go to the internet thinking their opinion is important, not taking into account that not everything thinks exactly the same as said douchebag.

This leads to bands being overhyped because they are "real" when really it's just a fact that you discovered them a few weeks before the majority, and once they are discovered you'll drop them because they "sold out".

everything you said is completely and 100% accurate. You just saved me 1 minute of typing. thanks :)

[Kurt Retenauer]

Your "thoughts" don't warrant your own thread. Sorry to disappoint.

[saveferris]

Haha. Maybe just a bit overdramatic there, but definitely agreed. I find that looking into bands touring with bands you like is a sure thing. Friends of bands via MySpace is another. LastFM is a decent source as well...

Isn't that part of the fun of being a music fan? I've just always viewed finding new music as part of the fun, not a chore. If people would spend less time worrying about their fucking clothes, trying to get laid, "pre-gaming," et cetra before shows...Maybe they would bother checking out a new band.

Sorry to sound so cynical (even though I feel like I may be preaching to the choir) but...The problem isn't the bands. It's the fans.
This x 1,000,000. I've discovered about six bands by showing up early to shows

[Kurt Retenauer]

My Thoughts On The Scene
The scene is in trouble. Some days i think, man i wish it was 2004, or 2005 when the scene wasn’t so mainstream.
The "scene" was extremely mainstream in 2004 and 2005. Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, and Cartel ruled the world. If anything, 2002 was when "good" bands were less prominent.

I listened to bands like NFG, The Used, Sum 41, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Starting Line, Hawthorne Heights and so many more. There were so many new bands coming out that I loved and could relate to. Nowadays, these new bands i cant really relate to or even like. I mean there’s Four Year Strong, Set Your Goals, and The Swellers, but not to many.

As you get older, your ability to relate to "new" bands diminishes. This shouldn't come as a surprise.

It seems that every band either sings about partying, powerpop girl music. Straight hair, sunglasses, neon, v neck shirts. Dont get me wrong i love partying, but sweet jesus one song is enough, not 1,000. And stop covering rap songs. Think of your own shit. Every day on AP.net i see news of a band covering Lady Gaga, and Lil Wayne. It makes me sick. It doesnt belong in the scene. Cover songs by Blink or NFG. Bands that matter.

So, should bands cover songs? Or not cover songs? Make up your mind. Oh, and "bands that matter" to you may not to others, so don't act like Blink and New Found Glory invented music.

The worst part is this is Rap/Crunkcore in the scene right now. For something white guys in rock bands think they can rap. Just because your from the ATL, doesnt mean you can or should rap, Family Force 5! Your lead singer looks like a fucking toolbag, wearing a replica of the WWE Championship, what are you five. Also another Crunkcore band i cant is Breathe Carolina. Ive seen multiple interviews with them and i can say they are the frat boys of our scene.

So, because they're white, they shouldn't rap? Eminem is a beloved rapper, and he's white :shrug: And, "rock" music generally speaking caters to "white" people, so it should come as no shock that if an act features a rapper, he'll more than likely be white. If the rapper were black, would that make the music any more tolerable? The color of the skin isn't what makes rap/rock bad.


Co-writing. Seems that every band in “our scene.” Has co-writers and like 5 producers on there album. Whatever happened to the bands writing there own songs, and having one producer. Take a band like Hey Monday. Most of Cassadee’s tweets are shes co-writing with someone today. Come on really? Theres so many bands that have co-writers on there songs now, i cant even count. The originality is gone in the scene.

So many, yet you named only one, and one band that doesn't even exemplify the current "scene" that you're bitching about. Hey Monday is not in the same "scene" as your fellow "crunkcore" rockers.

Sex Appeal. The scene is like 1983. Bands just care about there image. Im sick of bands using sex appeal to win over 13 year old girls. When i listen to a band, i can give a shit how there hair and clothes look like. Yea so these bands look pretty, but there music is horse shit. I watched a video of a band (Cash Cash), wanting girls to take of shirts and show there boobs. When i see them im going to kick there ass. I have a sister and I think this is horrible. Every frontman now has nice gel hair, and some skin showing to get those 13 year old girls. I think people just want to be in a band just to get girls. Some old timers arent helping the situation. Take the lead singer of The All-AMerican Rejects Tyson. I remember when he was just on stage with a t-shirt and jeans. When there new album came out. He’s shirtless, has makeup and glitter all over his body. WTF?! If you saw the recent AAR performence on Kimmel, he made out with like 4 girls during the performence. Have some class dude.

I agree with the Tyson remarks, but there are many "good" bands that used some sort of sex appeal too. If a singer or other member thinks he's good looking, he's more than likely going to embellish his looks. Not to win over fans, but she he or she intentionally try to look bad? Take William Beckett from TAI. Awesome band, and he wears low rise girls jeans and pulls his shirt up for 50% of the set. Still an awesome set/band, despite his embellishment of his good looks. Not saying these "bullshit" bands are good looking, just that there are "good" bands that also use sex appeal to attract fans, but that doesn't make you and I like them any less. For some reason, people seem to bitch about bad bands using sex appeal to attract fans, but there are many good bands that also do this.

The scene is in trouble and we need to fix it. Here are some bands that are killing the scene: Brokencyde, Breathe Carolina, Forever The Sickest Shit (its not high school anymore fellows) The Maine, Sing It Loud, Cash Cash, jesus theres to many to mention, going to stop there.

Bitching about them and namedropping them in threads won't make them go away. However, avoiding making threads, posts, and blogs complaining about them will. The less these names are brought up, the less attention they get.

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Don't count on it.

[prefix-core]

This x 1,000,000. I've discovered about six bands by showing up early to shows

I'm showing my age a bit here. But I remember reading through the liner notes on Blink-182's Enema of the State record as a freshman in high school. I found out about quite a few bands by doing that back in the day.

Hell, the reason I picked up a Screeching Weasel record was because I saw Mike from Green Day wearing one of their shirts. Kids are fuckin' lazy.

[HYGz]

emopunkfan182? nice.

you should expand your horizons man. intellectual curiosity anyone?

[a nocturnal day]

The scenes been dead. It happens. 80's was glam rock, 90's was grunge, 00's being pop punk/post-hardcore. A few bands are able to last as classics, but the majority of bands die out in any given "scene". Move on.Now it will probably be indie hipster to become the new "scene". Or has already.

Also, I'm well aware there was more to the 80's and 90's like thrash metal, nu-metal and a whole bunch of other dead scenes.

[Scrandon]

Stop reading after you implied that Set Your Goals is part of the dying scene.

He didn't say that LoL, learn to read.

[Scrandon]

The scenes been dead. It happens. 80's was glam rock, 90's was grunge, 00's being pop punk/post-hardcore. A few bands are able to last as classics, but the majority of bands die out in any given "scene". Move on.Now it will probably be indie hipster to become the new "scene". Or has already.

Also, I'm well aware there was more to the 80's and 90's like thrash metal, nu-metal and a whole bunch of other dead scenes.

Oh my fucking god. Please noooooooo

[Deadbolt23]

I thought this was a joke :shrug:

[Broclee]

Holy fuck lol.

[theguy77]

That's fascinating and relates entirely to this:

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hahahahahahahaha i loved all of this

[joeyjoey]

That was some of the worst writing I have ever seen. I can't even bring my mind to form words about how bad that was.
I couldn't get past third paragraph.

[joeyjoey]

I laughed at that Atheist video.

[theguy77]

i stopped reading around the first sentence when he said sum 41 wasn't mainstream.

[theguy77]

I laughed at that Atheist video.

"if i didn't have god's judgment to fear, i would have killed many, many times."

[joeyjoey]

"if i didn't have god's judgment to fear, i would have killed many, many times."
Hahahahah exactly. "Don't go in the room, there's 2 gay men having sex. Why is there 2 gay men in our room? Because I wanted to watch them."

I want to meet atheists like this.

[cshadows2887]

For once, I'm going to answer this seriously.

A. I like The Maine.

B. Let bands cover pop songs. Or classic rock songs. Or whatever songs. If you're covering another song from a band that sounds like you, it'll be a pale imitation. I always look to cover things that I can put an original spin on.

C. There were just as many rip-off and shit bands during your glory years, people are just forgetting them now. The benefits of history.

D. You list Sum 41 as part of the pinnacle of scene music. And then rail against incorporating hip-hop. What are the verses of "Fat Lip"?

[cshadows2887]

i stopped reading around the first sentence when he said sum 41 wasn't mainstream.

I thought that claim was more ridiculous for HAwthorne Heights than Sum 41, even.

[the seventeenth]

To be honest, none of your points convinced me what so ever. Terriblely written anyway.

[cshadows2887]

I'm showing my age a bit here. But I remember reading through the liner notes on Blink-182's Enema of the State record as a freshman in high school. I found out about quite a few bands by doing that back in the day.

Hell, the reason I picked up a Screeching Weasel record was because I saw Mike from Green Day wearing one of their shirts. Kids are fuckin' lazy.

There's too much access to bands. I'm not even really old enough to be claiming pre-internet, but I had to rely more on word of mouth or reccomendations to find new stuff when I was younger. Now there's 50,000 bands in your face every day. Why go out of your way to discover something when it's at your fingertips?

I know it makes me have to work harder to feel personally connected with the music I listen to. But I do it, because it's something I value.

[And Hours Pass]

I came in here not to read what was written, but to pose a different question. Why does anybody care about your thoughts on the scene?

I know I don't. Just wanted to make sure you knew that.

[Alex1410]

As far as i'm concerned, theres always gonna be lots of good music around, and thats all I care about.

[x togepi x]

i feel like covers are awesome when you're that nobody local/regional band that's playing something familiar to the crowd so they're not completely lost in songs they've never heard but if you have a fanbase at all, more often than not, those covers are just cheesy attempts at being witty or ironic and fail.

[Thomas Nassiff]

there = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/there

their = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/their

they're = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/they're

learn the difference, that's all i have to say...

MY GOD, WILL YOU MARRY ME?!

x

[cshadows2887]

i feel like covers are awesome when you're that nobody local/regional band that's playing something familiar to the crowd so they're not completely lost in songs they've never heard but if you have a fanbase at all, more often than not, those covers are just cheesy attempts at being witty or ironic and fail.

It's easy to jump on that bandwagon in the wake of the "Punk Goes..." cash-in fad, but sometimes, real artists bring something new to these songs. Jimi doing "Watchtower", Dustin Kensure doing "'Round Here", Jeff Buckley doing "Hallelujah", hell even Taking Back Sunday doing "When You Were Young" seems like more to me than a cheesy gimmick. Artists like ROd Stewart and Joe Cocker made careers out of finding new meaning in other peoples' songs.

[prefix-core]

There's too much access to bands. I'm not even really old enough to be claiming pre-internet, but I had to rely more on word of mouth or reccomendations to find new stuff when I was younger. Now there's 50,000 bands in your face every day. Why go out of your way to discover something when it's at your fingertips?

I know it makes me have to work harder to feel personally connected with the music I listen to. But I do it, because it's something I value.

...Because clearly the stuff being shoved in your face isn't making you happy. Isn't that what this so-called "thing" we call a "scene" was all about in the first place? A response to something you view as materialistic, derivative, boring, et cetra. Seems like common sense to me. Shrug.

[cshadows2887]

...Because clearly the stuff being shoved in your face isn't making you happy. Isn't that what this so-called "thing" we call a "scene" was all about in the first place? A response to something you view as materialistic, derivative, boring, et cetra. Seems like common sense to me. Shrug.

That was a more rhetorical you. I do think there's value in more menaingful connection to the bands you love. I'm just saying, for a lot of kids just getting into music, it's a whole diferent ballgame than it was when you or I were 14.

[bobsheiskawy]

My Thoughts On The Scene
The scene is in trouble. Some days i think, man i wish it was 2004, or 2005 when the scene wasn’t so mainstream. I listened to bands like NFG, The Used, Sum 41, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Starting Line, Hawthorne Heights and so many more. There were so many new bands coming out that I loved and could relate to. Nowadays, these new bands i cant really relate to or even like. I mean there’s Four Year Strong, Set Your Goals, and The Swellers, but not to many.

It seems that every band either sings about partying, powerpop girl music. Straight hair, sunglasses, neon, v neck shirts. Dont get me wrong i love partying, but sweet jesus one song is enough, not 1,000. And stop covering rap songs. Think of your own shit. Every day on AP.net i see news of a band covering Lady Gaga, and Lil Wayne. It makes me sick. It doesnt belong in the scene. Cover songs by Blink or NFG. Bands that matter.

The worst part is this is Rap/Crunkcore in the scene right now. For something white guys in rock bands think they can rap. Just because your from the ATL, doesnt mean you can or should rap, Family Force 5! Your lead singer looks like a fucking toolbag, wearing a replica of the WWE Championship, what are you five. Also another Crunkcore band i cant is Breathe Carolina. Ive seen multiple interviews with them and i can say they are the frat boys of our scene.

Every artists says there music will make you want to dance. Well i dont want to fucking dance. I want to rock out and mosh. Gabe go back to Midtown, and you dont need a fucking security guards. Security guards are for pop stars and rappers.

Co-writing. Seems that every band in “our scene.” Has co-writers and like 5 producers on there album. Whatever happened to the bands writing there own songs, and having one producer. Take a band like Hey Monday. Most of Cassadee’s tweets are shes co-writing with someone today. Come on really? Theres so many bands that have co-writers on there songs now, i cant even count. The originality is gone in the scene.

Sex Appeal. The scene is like 1983. Bands just care about there image. Im sick of bands using sex appeal to win over 13 year old girls. When i listen to a band, i can give a shit how there hair and clothes look like. Yea so these bands look pretty, but there music is horse shit. I watched a video of a band (Cash Cash), wanting girls to take of shirts and show there boobs. When i see them im going to kick there ass. I have a sister and I think this is horrible. Every frontman now has nice gel hair, and some skin showing to get those 13 year old girls. I think people just want to be in a band just to get girls. Some old timers arent helping the situation. Take the lead singer of The All-AMerican Rejects Tyson. I remember when he was just on stage with a t-shirt and jeans. When there new album came out. He’s shirtless, has makeup and glitter all over his body. WTF?! If you saw the recent AAR performence on Kimmel, he made out with like 4 girls during the performence. Have some class dude.

The scene is in trouble and we need to fix it. Here are some bands that are killing the scene: Brokencyde, Breathe Carolina, Forever The Sickest Shit (its not high school anymore fellows) The Maine, Sing It Loud, Cash Cash, jesus theres to many to mention, going to stop there.

follow my blog: http://emopunkfan182.tumblr.com/

you sound like one of those people around today who only listen to metallica or ac/dc because they don't think anything else good has been made since. except for you, it will be only blink 182 and new found glory. enjoy the same albums for the rest of your life.

[IntoTheSun]

It's Funny Because I'm White Too!

Liek OMGz bro, me too! High five!

[kearn1tm]

Liek OMGz bro, me too! High five!
Look everyone. Here comes the model minority.

[Deadbolt23]

i feel like covers are awesome when you're that nobody local/regional band that's playing something familiar to the crowd so they're not completely lost in songs they've never heard but if you have a fanbase at all, more often than not, those covers are just cheesy attempts at being witty or ironic and fail.

I definitely think you should hear some good covers by good bands.

[x togepi x]

It's easy to jump on that bandwagon in the wake of the "Punk Goes..." cash-in fad, but sometimes, real artists bring something new to these songs. Jimi doing "Watchtower", Dustin Kensure doing "'Round Here", Jeff Buckley doing "Hallelujah", hell even Taking Back Sunday doing "When You Were Young" seems like more to me than a cheesy gimmick. Artists like ROd Stewart and Joe Cocker made careers out of finding new meaning in other peoples' songs.

I'm talking about nowadays, but for everyone of those good covers you have tons and tons more awful ones. I'm not even talking about "punk goes...", just look at the rage against the machine cover album...awful.

[pennie]

Can't wait for the new sum 41 album

[Deadbolt23]

I'm talking about nowadays, but for everyone of those good covers you have tons and tons more awful ones. I'm not even talking about "punk goes...", just look at the rage against the machine cover album...awful.

Dustin Kensrue is nowadays.

[IntoTheSun]

Look everyone. Here comes the model minority.

"ilu"

[kearn1tm]

"ilu"

It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Ching Chong Chang.

[x togepi x]

Dustin Kensrue is nowadays.

and is also terrible. what's your point?

[x togepi x]

I definitely think you should hear some good covers by good bands.

oh please please enlighten me oh great intelligent 17 year old

[IntoTheSun]

It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Ching Chong Chang.

Oh, irony. I get it!

Here:Some things can not be explained by science. Take for example, rainbows. Rainbows are a mystery and you can not touch them, just like god. Despite this fact, they are still there even though there is no scientific explanation for them. So next time you find yourself doubting your faith, think of god as a rainbow. I know that this can be a difficult concept for some of you to grasp. It is just like air you can't see it but you know its there

[Deadbolt23]

oh please please enlighten me oh great intelligent 17 year old

Okay, nevermind.

[x togepi x]

Okay, nevermind.

no seriously i've never heard a good band play a cover song before.

[cshadows2887]

I'm talking about nowadays, but for everyone of those good covers you have tons and tons more awful ones. I'm not even talking about "punk goes...", just look at the rage against the machine cover album...awful.

I liked "How I Could Just Kill a Man." : (

But seriously, I think you're taking too broad and negative a view. Two of those examples were contemporary and there are plenty more good ones around. The reason there are so many more bad ones now is that there's just so much more music now, plus covers are particularly en vogue at the moment. It's a percentage game. With more music (and thus more bad music) availble, the amount of duds will increase, but it also means there's plenty of great stuff out there too.

[x togepi x]

I liked "How I Could Just Kill a Man." : (

yeah but then listen to them play maggie's farm or in your eyes...

But seriously, I think you're taking too broad and negative a view. Two of those examples were contemporary and there are plenty more good ones around. The reason there are so many more bad ones now is that there's just so much more music now, plus covers are particularly en vogue at the moment. It's a percentage game. With more music (and thus more bad music) availble, the amount of duds will increase, but it also means there's plenty of great stuff out there too.


Show me some good covers then. We both admit there's a trend for bands to cover songs to come off witty and ironic. I think most of those songs suck. Like yeah, Japandroids just released a sweet cover of Racer X by big black. That's awesome, but it's still drowned out by all of those terrible Punk Goes comps and ironic myspace band covers.

[Deadbolt23]

no seriously i've never heard a good band play a cover song before.

Thrice - The Earth Isn't Humming (Frodus)
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Local Natives - Warning Sign (Talking Heads)
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Arctic Monkeys - Love Machine (Girls Aloud)
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Band_C - The Drums Keep Pounding (Sonny & Cher)
http://www.myspace.com/bandcofficial

Casey Crescenzo & Anthony Green - Unravel (Bjork)
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Gil Scott-Heron - I'll Take Care Of You (Bobby Bland)
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The Low Anthem - Home I'll Never Be (Tom Waits)
0JZI5u3_7FE

Radiohead - Nobody Does It Better (Carly Simon)
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Homeless Mustard - Creep (Radiohead)
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My Brightest Diamond - Feelin' Good (Anthony Newley)
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Jose Gonzales - Teardrop (Massive Attack)
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[cshadows2887]

yeah but then listen to them play maggie's farm or in your eyes...




Show me some good covers then. We both admit there's a trend for bands to cover songs to come off witty and ironic. I think most of those songs suck. Like yeah, Japandroids just released a sweet cover of Racer X by big black. That's awesome, but it's still drowned out by all of those terrible Punk Goes comps and ironic myspace band covers.

Even on those shit comps though, an occasional band puts in the time and care to adapt the song to their sound and it works. The Almost's "Free Fallin'" and Silverstein's "Apologize" come to mind as songs where the bands did more than a guitar-hero adaptation. The problem with most of the ironic covers is that there's no attempt to reinvent or adapt. It's like being a wedding band.

For other good covers check out Jonah Matranga's "Irreplaceable" on youtube or his version of "I Want You Back." I'm pretty partial to Dustin Kensrue's "'Round Here" and a lot of people love Butch Walker's "You Belong With Me." And I'm not sure if there are versions available but Manchester Orchestra's "Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard" and The Spill Canvas's grafting of "Love Is a Battlefield" onto "To Live Without It" work really well live.

[ship of fools]

blah blah blah in 2003 people were saying the scene was dead.
In 2005 people were saying they wish the scene was like in 2003 because it was dying.
In 2008 people were saying they wish the scene was like the early half of the decade when the scene was thriving because it's now dead.
Now people are saying the scene is dead and they wish it was like it was in the past...still.

The scene never dies, it just changes. Stay suck in the past or adapt or, an even better idea, listen to the stuff you like and don't listen to the stuff you don't and then you don't have anything to complain about. It brings a certain ease to your daily life.

[sleepyseanzzz]

no seriously i've never heard a good band play a cover song before.

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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZsN3S0WJ_o)

[x togepi x]

Thrice - The Earth Isn't Humming (Frodus)
TcD81fKRZVU

Local Natives - Warning Sign (Talking Heads)
7sYKr5GoraA

Arctic Monkeys - Love Machine (Girls Aloud)
aTNC9l46oR4

Band_C - The Drums Keep Pounding (Sonny & Cher)
http://www.myspace.com/bandcofficial

Casey Crescenzo & Anthony Green - Unravel (Bjork)
8YjzFG7P0Cg&feature=related

Gil Scott-Heron - I'll Take Care Of You (Bobby Bland)
ADoCh8HfdKM

The Low Anthem - Home I'll Never Be (Tom Waits)
0JZI5u3_7FE

Radiohead - Nobody Does It Better (Carly Simon)
efXbcfxiDnM

Homeless Mustard - Creep (Radiohead)
hXlzci1rKNM

My Brightest Diamond - Feelin' Good (Anthony Newley)
KW3fvC_eo8U

Jose Gonzales - Teardrop (Massive Attack)
9B-h1EEsKDA

All of those were fucking horrible except the radiohead one. try again.

Even on those shit comps though, an occasional band puts in the time and care to adapt the song to their sound and it works. The Almost's "Free Fallin'" and Silverstein's "Apologize" come to mind as songs where the bands did more than a guitar-hero adaptation. The problem with most of the ironic covers is that there's no attempt to reinvent or adapt. It's like being a wedding band.

For other good covers check out Jonah Matranga's "Irreplaceable" on youtube or his version of "I Want You Back." I'm pretty partial to Dustin Kensrue's "'Round Here" and a lot of people love Butch Walker's "You Belong With Me." And I'm not sure if there are versions available but Manchester Orchestra's "Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard" and The Spill Canvas's grafting of "Love Is a Battlefield" onto "To Live Without It" work really well live.

Well that's the thing, it's usually they adapt by making it shitty. I go to music shops a lot to look for pedals and shit and you don't know how many times i've heard some scenester looking kids talk about how they need to cover ke$ha or lady gaga or whatever so people will like them and they can get signed like I Set My Friends on Fire. It's totally just a ploy.

[prefix-core]

All of those were fucking horrible except the radiohead one. try again.

The best part about that? That dude's name is Mustard. And he's an alcoholic homeless man who once bit a police officer. Not joking. Haha.

EDIT: I just realized I wasn't sure what you were referring to...Disregard that if it was the song that Radiohead covered. I didn't listen to shit, just got excited that a homeless man with an alcohol problem might have been your cover of choice, thus proving your point. Oh well...If that wasn't your pick? He's the only one with an excuse.

[showmethefever]

Longest ad ever?

[tyramail]

there are plenty of great bands making music now, look harder.

[kearn1tm]

Some crap

You're such a pill.

[saveferris]

I'm showing my age a bit here. But I remember reading through the liner notes on Blink-182's Enema of the State record as a freshman in high school. I found out about quite a few bands by doing that back in the day.

Hell, the reason I picked up a Screeching Weasel record was because I saw Mike from Green Day wearing one of their shirts. Kids are fuckin' lazy.
I did the exact same thing with my CD's back then. I remember discovering Yellowcard from the liner notes on Say It Like You Mean It.

[saveferris]

There's too much access to bands. I'm not even really old enough to be claiming pre-internet, but I had to rely more on word of mouth or reccomendations to find new stuff when I was younger. Now there's 50,000 bands in your face every day. Why go out of your way to discover something when it's at your fingertips?

I know it makes me have to work harder to feel personally connected with the music I listen to. But I do it, because it's something I value.
Yep. As did I. The liner notes were where it was at back in the day.

[vivatoto56]

I would just like to throw it out there that Set Your Goals has done like everything you hate.

They covered a Lady Gaga song (on kazoos) and I'm fairly certain Summer Jam is loosely about getting fucked up (amongst other things).

And you sound pretty quick to forgive them for Put Yo Hood Up on the Punk Goes Crunk compilation.

Don't get me wrong I love Set Your Goals. I'm just saying.

[TheProsAndCons]

That's fascinating and relates entirely to this:

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Some of the comments pepole have left on that video are just......wow

[Max_123]

This Conversation Has Been Beaten To The Fucking Death, Give It A Rest

edit: caps lock fail :(

[cshadows2887]

Yep. As did I. The liner notes were where it was at back in the day.

Damn straight. And I found a lot of bands simply by showing up for the openers at shows I went to.

Plus, nothing beats word of mouth. It's instant community. If you end up liking the band, you already know someone else who'll go see them with you by default.

[andthetruthwill]

My Thoughts On The Scene
The scene is in trouble. Some days i think, man i wish it was 2004, or 2005 when the scene wasn’t so mainstream. I listened to bands like NFG, The Used, Sum 41, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Starting Line, Hawthorne Heights and so many more. There were so many new bands coming out that I loved and could relate to. Nowadays, these new bands i cant really relate to or even like. I mean there’s Four Year Strong, Set Your Goals, and The Swellers, but not to many.

It seems that every band either sings about partying, powerpop girl music. Straight hair, sunglasses, neon, v neck shirts. Dont get me wrong i love partying, but sweet jesus one song is enough, not 1,000. And stop covering rap songs. Think of your own shit. Every day on AP.net i see news of a band covering Lady Gaga, and Lil Wayne. It makes me sick. It doesnt belong in the scene. Cover songs by Blink or NFG. Bands that matter.

The worst part is this is Rap/Crunkcore in the scene right now. For something white guys in rock bands think they can rap. Just because your from the ATL, doesnt mean you can or should rap, Family Force 5! Your lead singer looks like a fucking toolbag, wearing a replica of the WWE Championship, what are you five. Also another Crunkcore band i cant is Breathe Carolina. Ive seen multiple interviews with them and i can say they are the frat boys of our scene.

Every artists says there music will make you want to dance. Well i dont want to fucking dance. I want to rock out and mosh. Gabe go back to Midtown, and you dont need a fucking security guards. Security guards are for pop stars and rappers.

Co-writing. Seems that every band in “our scene.” Has co-writers and like 5 producers on there album. Whatever happened to the bands writing there own songs, and having one producer. Take a band like Hey Monday. Most of Cassadee’s tweets are shes co-writing with someone today. Come on really? Theres so many bands that have co-writers on there songs now, i cant even count. The originality is gone in the scene.

Sex Appeal. The scene is like 1983. Bands just care about there image. Im sick of bands using sex appeal to win over 13 year old girls. When i listen to a band, i can give a shit how there hair and clothes look like. Yea so these bands look pretty, but there music is horse shit. I watched a video of a band (Cash Cash), wanting girls to take of shirts and show there boobs. When i see them im going to kick there ass. I have a sister and I think this is horrible. Every frontman now has nice gel hair, and some skin showing to get those 13 year old girls. I think people just want to be in a band just to get girls. Some old timers arent helping the situation. Take the lead singer of The All-AMerican Rejects Tyson. I remember when he was just on stage with a t-shirt and jeans. When there new album came out. He’s shirtless, has makeup and glitter all over his body. WTF?! If you saw the recent AAR performence on Kimmel, he made out with like 4 girls during the performence. Have some class dude.

The scene is in trouble and we need to fix it. Here are some bands that are killing the scene: Brokencyde, Breathe Carolina, Forever The Sickest Shit (its not high school anymore fellows) The Maine, Sing It Loud, Cash Cash, jesus theres to many to mention, going to stop there.

follow my blog: http://emopunkfan182.tumblr.com/

The scene is doing fine. In fact, it's doing better than it ever was because it has grown and become embraced and treasured by so so many more kids. Appreciate, don't hate.

[jwicklun]

whats it like beating a dead horse?

[Tommy Gun]

This is like that one time I was playing pokemon and I got to the Elite Four but instead of the Elite Four it was just some kid wasting my time with incoherant ramblings of whiney bitch-dom. FAIL

In other news: That atheism video was absolutely hysterical. WIN

[Deadbolt23]

All of those were fucking horrible except the radiohead one. try again.

What music do you like?! You haven't got any on your profile, or a link to last.fm

[*Ro']

WktSB9_u7h4

[EchoPark]

Pal, that sob story would have probably been much more enjoyable to read if you learned how to spell.

[luvsickcatalyst]

i hate to say it, but we're getting older man... if we were still in high school, we'd probably like the shit that's out these days.

I will speak as a member of the current high schoolers, although I probably represent a small majority of kids at my school (most listen to Lil' Wayne and all that awful stuff) Frankly, I got bored with the concept of "the scene" a long time ago and listening to a certain groups of bands (i.e. Brand New, Blink, TBS) that a bunch of people (i.e. Absolutepunk.net) listen to along with me and share the same opinions. I love my pop-punk bands to death and always will, but people's glorified view of "the scene" needs to die. At its core, the scene, to me, is about just being together with a bunch of people screaming the words to a song at a show, not whether this band or that band is good. When you were in high school, I'm willing to bet 23-year olds thought Midtown and Fall Out Boy were awful. But that didn't matter, because it was just about having fun.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Don't get him wrong, guys...

....
.....
..........
.

[price]

i hate to say it, but we're getting older man... if we were still in high school, we'd probably like the shit that's out these days.

I'm a Freshman in highschool and the garbage music that is out there today (ftsk, breathe carolina, especially brokencyde , the list continues, for quite awhile) is complete shit.

[tawtaw]

I will speak as a member of the current high schoolers, although I probably represent a small majority of kids at my school (most listen to Lil' Wayne and all that awful stuff) Frankly, I got bored with the concept of "the scene" a long time ago and listening to a certain groups of bands (i.e. Brand New, Blink, TBS) that a bunch of people (i.e. Absolutepunk.net) listen to along with me and share the same opinions. I love my pop-punk bands to death and always will, but people's glorified view of "the scene" needs to die. At its core, the scene, to me, is about just being together with a bunch of people screaming the words to a song at a show, not whether this band or that band is good. When you were in high school, I'm willing to bet 23-year olds thought Midtown and Fall Out Boy were awful. But that didn't matter, because it was just about having fun.

I agree with this completely.

[dave_ocean]

the scene's been dead a long time

[anamericangod]

The scene is doing fine. In fact, it's doing better than it ever was because it has grown and become embraced and treasured by so so many more kids. Appreciate, don't hate.

Hahahahahahaha.

No.

[HMNIJared]

Although I agree with your crunkcore thoughts, your thoughts aren't everyone else's thoughts.
People who define Breathe Carolina and Brokencyde and Cash Cash as good music are probably going to look at the music you listen to as just as shitty as you think their favorite bands (Breathe Carolina, etc.) are.

[xxemo_kittyxx]

Despite the abundance of many grammatical flaws, I quite agree with what you are trying to say. Realize though, that there are bands out there who are making real music and don't give a fuck about what they wear or what they look like.

[andthetruthwill]

Hahahahahahaha.

No.

The connection you found in a Thursday record a long time ago is the same feeling some kid is finding in an Asking Alexandria record today. It's the same. And it's exciting and thrilling. The record will change that kid and open them up, just as that old record did to you. The benefit now is that there is so much more access and community to this scene. Businesses have adapted to enfold and recognize it. And it can be seen represented on a daily basis no matter where you might go. Even if it's one random kid wearing a Devil Wears Prada hoodie, it's there and it's grown so much. And it is something to cherish. Because it needs not to ever go away.

[anamericangod]

The connection you found in a Thursday record a long time ago is the same feeling some kid is finding in an Asking Alexandria record today. It's the same. And it's exciting and thrilling. The record will change that kid and open them up, just as that old record did to you. The benefit now is that there is so much more access and community to this scene. Businesses have adapted to enfold and recognize it. And it can be seen represented on a daily basis no matter where you might go. Even if it's one random kid wearing a Devil Wears Prada hoodie, it's there and it's grown so much. And it is something to cherish. Because it needs not to ever go away.

Who in the fuck is Asking Alexandria?

The Devil Wears Prada is terrible. Fuck that. That is not growth.

[andthetruthwill]

Who in the fuck is Asking Alexandria?

The Devil Wears Prada is terrible. Fuck that. That is not growth.

Those are just examples. Not my point. You can insert any band in those spots. Say the Dangerous Summer or Lydia if that will help. The specific band isn't essential to what I was saying.

[Thesleepingwell]

The scene just evolves. It happens in every genre...
There are bound to be shitty bands. You have to work out what's good and what isn't.
A matter of taste and opinion.

[Matt Chylak]

Hahahahahahaha.

No.

i love your avatar. i think that once a day but i don't think i've ever told you

[Sic Transit Zeb]

what a pointless post.

[gabegr]

I came in here not to read what was written, but to pose a different question. Why does anybody care about your thoughts on the scene?

I know I don't. Just wanted to make sure you knew that.

tough guy alert

[dundermifflin]

who care's what everyone else listen's too, listen to whatever the fuck you want to listen to

[Carolina.Alex]

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/gr33nday1646/confusion.jpg
(http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj228/gr33nday1646/?action=view&current=confusion.jpg)

[anamericangod]

i love your avatar. i think that once a day but i don't think i've ever told you

Thank you kind sir.

[x togepi x]

The connection you found in a Thursday record a long time ago is the same feeling some kid is finding in an Asking Alexandria record today. It's the same. And it's exciting and thrilling. The record will change that kid and open them up, just as that old record did to you. The benefit now is that there is so much more access and community to this scene. Businesses have adapted to enfold and recognize it. And it can be seen represented on a daily basis no matter where you might go. Even if it's one random kid wearing a Devil Wears Prada hoodie, it's there and it's grown so much. And it is something to cherish. Because it needs not to ever go away.

You're just reducing music to this homogenous blog of nothingness that's only valued because people like it and I think that's missing the point. The feelings people have in regards to music or whatever are irrelevant because one can relate/feel anything based around anything. I relate a lot to shitty 80s sci fi, does that make it just as good as Citizen Kane?

There are relevant differences between now and before. There's a huge difference between Thursday starting out by doing house shows for charity that bands like Midtown played starting out and what goes on now where shitty myspace bands get popular by playing to a strict formula and image. I don't think anyone is trying to tell you that newer shit bands aren't relatable, they're trying to tell you that they bring implications that are sort of problematic in regards to what brought them to 'the scene" to begin with.

[anamericangod]

You're just reducing music to this homogenous blog of nothingness that's only valued because people like it and I think that's missing the point. The feelings people have in regards to music or whatever are irrelevant because one can relate/feel anything based around anything. I relate a lot to shitty 80s sci fi, does that make it just as good as Citizen Kane?

There are relevant differences between now and before. There's a huge difference between Thursday starting out by doing house shows for charity that bands like Midtown played starting out and what goes on now where shitty myspace bands get popular by playing to a strict formula and image. I don't think anyone is trying to tell you that newer shit bands aren't relatable, they're trying to tell you that they bring implications that are sort of problematic in regards to what brought them to 'the scene" to begin with.

Very well said, thank you for posting that so I didn't have to.

[kieza]

http://maddok.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/i-dunno-lol.jpg

[2's&3's]

there = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/there

their = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/their

they're = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/they're

learn the difference, that's all i have to say...

seriously. even if there was a valid point in that mess, the fact that the kid can't differentiate the use of the word killed it.

[mantipede]

And stop covering rap songs.

While your post was kind of a painful rant, I agree with this portion a lot. In fact, I wish bands would stop covering rap/hip hop/pop/dance/Lady Gaga songs because it sucks. Terribly.

[cwya]

OP's just trying to get people to follow his blog.

Good bands still exist, you just might have to look past that which "the scene" has to offer to find something you like.

[cshadows2887]

You're just reducing music to this homogenous blog of nothingness that's only valued because people like it and I think that's missing the point. The feelings people have in regards to music or whatever are irrelevant because one can relate/feel anything based around anything. I relate a lot to shitty 80s sci fi, does that make it just as good as Citizen Kane?

While this is a really good argument and well-phrased, my only question is: what importance does objective quality have in the long run? Who cares if Citizen Kane is better than The Last Starfighter if the latter brings you enjoyment and the first doesn't? To me, I'll take emotional connection over objective quality any day, because it has a more direct impact on my life. The feelings you get from a song you can relate to can have a tangibly positive effect on your life, moreso than the appreciation you would feel for something based on its objective worth.

[nowFace]

Grow up. Dude, you're 19. Your'e only one year younger than me, can you honestly say your music tastes haven't changed since you started listening to music? If not then you're clearly one of those morons who shouldn't have an opinion.

There. I said it. Grow up, realise you're not that kid anymore, get out and listen to newer music stop being so fucking afraid cos it's different.

Don't get me wrong, I still listen to some of the music I used to, and throwing on Take Off Your Pants And Jacket is still a fun way to rock out (blink was my favourite band when I was 14) but still, how can you not listen to a Wilco album, a bright eyes album, heck even a say anything album and have your musical tastes change on the spot? Don't be a moron. The scene doesn't die, it changes, just like you do. The scene you remember won't be the scene your kids know, stop acting like you'ree the be all and end all of importance. Jesus christ.
not tryin to be a dick but wat did u mean wen u said...heck even say anything?

[bridgeofeldin]

H5KfHEoZDKI&playnext_from=TL&videos=iiZHBQkt1PA

hahahah loved that

[Hagysaurus Rex]

Duder, you need to find your local punk houses. Start going to basement shows and getting involved with your local "scene." If you want DIY roots, without half the shit you mentioned (emphasis on image, cowriter, multiple producers, etc) look no further than the traveling bands coming through and your town/city basements.

[cubine]

My Thoughts On The Scene
The scene is in trouble. Some days I think "Man, I wish it was 2004 or 2005, when the scene wasn’t so mainstream." I listened to bands like NFG, The Used, Sum 41, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday, The Starting Line, Hawthorne Heights and many more. There were so many new bands coming out that I loved and could relate to. Nowadays, I can't really relate to or even like these new bands. I mean there’s Four Year Strong, Set Your Goals and The Swellers, but not too many.

It seems like every band sings partying, powerpop girl music. Straight hair, sunglasses, neon, and V-neck shirts. Don't get me wrong, I love partying, but sweet Jesus one song is enough. Stop covering rap songs. Think of your own shit. Every day on AP.net I see news of a band covering Lady Gaga or Lil Wayne. It makes me sick. It doesn't belong in the scene. Cover songs by Blink or NFG. Bands that matter.

The worst part is this is Rap/Crunkcore in the scene right now. For some reason white guys in rock bands think they can rap. Just because you're from the ATL doesn't mean you can or should rap, Family Force 5! Your lead singer looks like a fucking toolbag, wearing a replica of the WWE Championship belt. What are you, five? Also, another Crunkcore band I can't stand is Breathe Carolina. I've seen multiple interviews with them and I can say they are the frat boys of our scene.

Every artist says their music will make you want to dance. Well I don't want to fucking dance. I want to rock out and mosh. Gabe, go back to Midtown. You don't need fucking security guards. Security guards are for pop stars and rappers.

Co-writing. Seems that every band in “our scene” has co-writers and like 5 producers on their album. Whatever happened to bands writing their own songs, and having one producer? Take a band like Hey Monday. Most of Cassadee’s tweets are that she's co-writing with someone today. Come on, really? There are so many bands that have co-writers on their songs now, I can't even count them. The originality is gone in the scene.

Sex Appeal. The scene is like 1983. Bands only care about there image. I'm sick of bands using sex appeal to win over 13 year old girls. When I listen to a band, I don't give a shit how their hair and clothes look. Yeah so these bands look pretty, but their music is horse shit. I watched a video of a band (Cash Cash) who wanted girls to take of shirts and show their boobs. When I see them I'm going to kick their asses. I have a sister and I think this is horrible. Every frontman now has nice gelled hair and some skin showing to get those 13 year old girls. I think people just want to be in a band to get girls. Some old timers aren't helping the situation. Take the lead singer of The All-American Rejects, Tyson. I remember when he was just on stage with a t-shirt and jeans. When their new album came out, he’s shirtless and has makeup and glitter all over his body. WTF?! If you saw the recent AAR performence on Kimmel, he made out with like 4 girls during the performence. Have some class dude.

The scene is in trouble and we need to fix it. Here are some bands that are killing the scene: brokenCYDE, Breathe Carolina, Forever The Sickest Kids (its not high school anymore fellows) The Maine, Sing It Loud, Cash Cash, Jesus there are to many to mention, I'm going to stop there.

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I fixed most of your grammar and spelling errors.

It's still an incoherent argument.

Do you realize that people five and ten years ago were saying the exact same things about the bands you profess "matter"? Perceived members of what you refer to as "the scene" (which seems to be an extremely vague reference to fans of non-Top 40 music) have always decried the next generation of musicians for being sell-outs, pretty boys, etc. Blink was thought to be the death of punk rock when they broke through. Many fans of earlier punk hated New Found Glory for being whiny and writing "pussy" songs. Or go back another generation, and you'll see that people were accusing bands like Rancid, NOFX and Green Day for selling out or becoming pop because they shot music videos and didn't play exclusively tiny clubs. Go back yet another generation and old school punk fans were hating on hardcore because it was too noisy or aggressive or whatever.

I'm not saying any of these bands are or are not sell-outs, fakes, pretty boys, etc. I'm just trying to point out that hey, guess what, your "THESE NEW KIDS ARE RUINING THE 'SCENE' AND WE GOTS TA FIX IT" attitude is far from new and rarely accomplishes anything outside of alienating people and creating rifts.

And remember: The "scene" is a myth. People make music, people listen to music, "scenes" be damned.

[Kaylah]

there = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/there

their = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/their

they're = http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/they're

learn the difference, that's all i have to say...
sorry to say, but this^ is all i thought of when i read it...

[jason_t8]

wow please cry a little bit more

[Akissforher]

My thoughts on the scene:

Douchebags think they know better and that their choice in music is the right one, and go to the internet thinking their opinion is important, not taking into account that not everything thinks exactly the same as said douchebag.

This leads to bands being overhyped because they are "real" when really it's just a fact that you discovered them a few weeks before the majority, and once they are discovered you'll drop them because they "sold out".

infinately this;

[fly_guy]

Not every band coming out sings about this shit. Get away from that kind of music, there is plenty of other stuff out there. And stop complaining.

[tawtaw]

The internet is being utilized more and more to distribute music and this leads to more bands/artists being known in "the scene". When you have this many new artists showing up every year there's bound to be a fair amount of shit.

[jwicklun]

there is no such thing as the "scene." its just another white myth like Larry Bird or Colorado.

[handlikesecret]

i can kind of see where you're coming from, but take advantage of the variety that the scene has to offer. there really is something for everyone; you just have to look hard enough.

[roche]

That was pretty sick burn you wrote about forever the sickest kids, keep up the great writing man.

[Illuminate]

The bands in the scene that matter: Bayside , Anberlin , Four Year Strong

[andthetruthwill]

You're just reducing music to this homogenous blog of nothingness that's only valued because people like it and I think that's missing the point. The feelings people have in regards to music or whatever are irrelevant because one can relate/feel anything based around anything. I relate a lot to shitty 80s sci fi, does that make it just as good as Citizen Kane?

There are relevant differences between now and before. There's a huge difference between Thursday starting out by doing house shows for charity that bands like Midtown played starting out and what goes on now where shitty myspace bands get popular by playing to a strict formula and image. I don't think anyone is trying to tell you that newer shit bands aren't relatable, they're trying to tell you that they bring implications that are sort of problematic in regards to what brought them to 'the scene" to begin with.

I was referencing the blog where the aforequoted played Thursday and it changed his life. That sort of thing still happens just as much as it did in the early part of the decade. There isn't a difference in that from then to now. The biggest difference is that years passed and society changed. Myspace didn't exist when Thursday started. The internet wasn't a factor really then. Cell phones barely existed. Culture shifted over the two thousand's. Myspace and the internet brought forth so much good. It gave bands and kids places to go that transcends just playing shows and going to shows. It helped the scene prosper into a bigger and more nuanced thing.

This romanticized ideal of the early two thousand's being so grand is really weird I think. I mean, I was there. I went to shows. I saw these bands. I don't see a difference between now and then, except the multiplicity of kids treasuring it and the odd onset of haters and negativity from people who profess to value this scene, yet spew so much hate it just serves to tear it down. Thankfully the latter is not really manifested at shows.

It was just as much work searching through dot coms and thank you's then to find new bands as it is now navigating myspaces and twitters, maybe more so then. The scene got larger over the years and more accessible, but it never lost any of it's heart. In fact, it grew more of it and branched new arteries so it wouldn't go stagnant. It's been alive for a long time now and it's still kicking.

[cubine]

The bands in the scene that matter: Bayside , Anberlin , Four Year Strong

Yesssss

[Auals]

not tryin to be a dick but wat did u mean wen u said...heck even say anything?

I love say anything. Max is on of my favourite songwriters ever. I for one was changed a lot, musically, by Is A Real Boy but I know a lot of people here shit on Max a lot now days so I said it like that because I know that a lot of people think he's past his prime now. I loved Self-Titled.

[arcarsination]

i hate to say it, but we're getting older man... if we were still in high school, we'd probably like the shit that's out these days.

Yeah, man. Couldn't say it better. The scene has just transformed. Looking for bands in the same places over and over again is just asking for a letdown.

Personally, I don't even know what this site is even about anymore. Sure I could kick and scream about how they sold this place out, bashing Tate and Co. But it was a decision they made with the site. We just have to look elsewhere for good stuff. It's the nature of the beast.

[emopunkfan]

Wow alot of negative comments lol

[beem-dog]

Every day on AP.net i see news of a band covering Lady Gaga, and Lil Wayne. It makes me sick. It doesnt belong in the scene. Cover songs by Blink or NFG. Bands that matter.

Every artist says their music will make you want to dance. Well I don't want to fucking dance. I want to rock out and mosh.


My two favorite parts of the wall o' text.

If you've got such gripes with "The Scene", the fuck 'em. There's plenty of good music out there being made currently, and futhermore there's a PLETHORA of music that's already out that you could listen to. Stop complaining, listen to what you want.

[First Assault]

Liciakasher made a fake account. go figure.


You have way too much time on your hand boy. How about listening to some, which isn't primarily about selling yourself such as Radio Heads music, Holy Fuck, Arcade Fire. You sound like some kind of moaning emo!

[Deadbolt23]

You have way too much time on your hand boy. How about listening to some, which isn't primarily about selling yourself such as Radio Heads music, Holy Fuck, Arcade Fire. You sound like some kind of moaning emo!

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[First Assault]

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I QUOTED THE WRONG PERSON! DOH

[nowFace]

I love say anything. Max is on of my favourite songwriters ever. I for one was changed a lot, musically, by Is A Real Boy but I know a lot of people here shit on Max a lot now days so I said it like that because I know that a lot of people think he's past his prime now. I loved Self-Titled.
dude.....u basically just summed up my entire outlook on their career.I MEAN people bash on em quite a bit here to be trendy it feels like.