Secret & Whisper - Teenage Fantasy

[Drew Beringer]

Secret & Whisper – Teenage Fantasy
Release Date: April 6, 2010
Record Label: Tooth & Nail

Is it considered “biting” when the band in question does it better than the original? In the case of Secret & Whisper’s new album, Teenage Fantasy, I say no. While Saosin popularized the style (high-pitched singing backed by ultra-fast guitar riffs and power chords), the band formerly known as Stutterfly has improved upon it. It’s also not fair to compare this album to Saosin since their last release was a dump of a record. So let’s just get it out of the way. Teenage Fantasy is as high-octane as albums come: it’s furiously in your face and can hold its own within this genre, as Charles Furney’s vocals are a cross between Cove Reber and Anthony Green.

In fact, Teenage Fantasy would have been the record that a Green-led Saosin would have created. After being delayed constantly, the album will not disappoint fans. Opening track, “Youth Cats” begins with Furney crooning over David Ecker and Jason Ciolli’s spastic guitar riffs, developing into a huge chorus. “Warrior (Southern Arrowwood)” features riffs underneath the thunderous percussion of drummer Ryan Loerke, while Furney's voice hits ridiculous highs during the chorus of “Bedroom Galaxy.”

But Teenage Fantasy also lets up on the gas a bit, as “Tiny Sparkle” and “Edge of Wilderness” feature the progressive nature of Circa Survive. The rip-roaring “Famous For A Century” destroys everything in its path, much like Terry Crews in that one commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG0VGbcMeNM). “Pretty Snarl” leads perfectly into the piercingly melodic “Star Blankets,” while sobriety and intensity are balanced nicely on “Whale Bones.” The weakest part of the album is Furney’s lyrics, as they are fairly pedestrian. But when a band can create songs like “Silver Mountain,” a composition that fully encompasses the listener, you tend to forget the lyrical shortcomings.

It’s fairly evident that Teenage Fantasy possesses quite more edge than its predecessor Great White Whale. It’s a hell of a rocker, full of crunching guitar riffs and slick production. Not to mention, Charles Furney has a fantastic voice. On this record, perhaps Secret & Whisper realized that to stop people from comparing them to Saosin, they’d have to be better than Saosin. And on Teenage Fantasy, they accomplish that convincingly and more.

Track Listing:
1. Youth Cats
2. Warrior (Southern Arrowwood)
3. Bedroom Galaxy
4. Tiny Sparkle
5. Famous For A Century
6. Edge of Wilderness
7. Pretty Snarl
8. Star Blankets
9. Blush
10. Whale Bones
11. Silver Mountain
Produced by: Andreas Magnusson

Secret & Whisper is:
Charles Furney – vocals
David Ecker – guitar
Jordan Chase – bass
Jason Ciolli – guitar
Ryan Loerke – drums

Official Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/secretandwhisper); Official AP.net Profile (http://www.absolutepunk.net/secretandwhisper); Official Twitter Page (http://www.twitter.com/sawband)

[Shakriel]

I really like this album. It might not be much different from their last, but I am quite ok with that.

[vivatoto56]

I hated their first album and thought that their newer tracks were a yawn. Pretty cliched.

But this is a pretty positive review and I typically respect your opinions.

Anyone else got thoughts on this album to help me decide whether its worth a listen. Cause this put it on my list.

[aradiantsunrise]

Good album. Hopefully next album they come up with a totally original sound though.

[Drew Beringer]

Good album. Hopefully next album they come up with a totally original sound though.
is Saosin the only band allowed to use this style? A lot of music isn't original these days, it's how a band executes it and presents it.

[aradiantsunrise]

is Saosin the only band allowed to use this style? A lot of music isn't original these days, it's how a band executes it and presents it.
Well I don't mean it in that sense, it's just going to be annoying seeing all these people compare them to Saosin and Circa even more so after they hear this. I would just like to see them attempt something different the next time, maybe go a little more experimental or something. I agree that they did it better than Saosin this time around but I just want to see what else they are capable of doing.

[Nick Le]

Haven't listened to this yet, but I'm looking forward to checking this out. Good review.

Edit: It's pretty awesome; Loving this album quite a bit.

[Drew Beringer]

Well I don't mean it in that sense, it's just going to be annoying seeing all these people compare them to Saosin and Circa even more so after they hear this. I would just like to see them attempt something different the next time, maybe go a little more experimental or something. I agree that they did it better than Saosin this time around but I just want to see what else they are capable of doing.
okay, I can agree with them getting a bit more experimental. I think they did tinker with a few more things this time around than on their debut. Songs like Silver Mountain and Tiny Sparkle for example.

[aradiantsunrise]

okay, I can agree with them getting a bit more experimental. I think they did tinker with a few more things this time around than on their debut. Songs like Silver Mountain and Tiny Sparkle for example.
It would be great if they did more songs like those two, I love the various sounds in them. It's weird though, when I listen to the experimental-ish SAW songs, it feels like I'm underwater. It's such a cool feeling. haha.

[emoboy333]

To me, they sound like Circa Survive crossed with Mew. I agree it's in the same line as their debut but it's still an amazing record!

[Smeee]

Good review. I'm really enjoying this album. Do kinda wish they quietened down a bit more on some tracks and went more ambient/experimental though.

[brothaman]

Good album. Hopefully next album they come up with a totally original sound though.
god i HATE when people do this.

[Meeze]

so stoked for this!

[brothaman]

is Saosin the only band allowed to use this style? A lot of music isn't original these days, it's how a band executes it and presents it.
this. this this this.

[holybatmon]

I'm getting bored of your reviews, Drew. There's no creativity, they're all the same structure and you've used pretty much every adjective in the book about 5 times. Yaaaaawwwnnn.

Anyway, I want this.

[Gin]

The review makes me wanna listen to the record again. First time I was kinda annoyed by the consistently hiiiigh vocals ^^"

[Drew Beringer]

I'm getting bored of your reviews, Drew. There's no creativity, they're all the same structure and you've used pretty much every adjective in the book about 5 times. Yaaaaawwwnnn.

Anyway, I want this.
then stop reading them. it's just my writing style. When you've written over 200 reviews, some of the adjectives are going to be re-used.

[holybatmon]

then stop reading them. it's just my writing style. When you've written over 200 reviews, some of the adjectives are going to be re-used.
Or you could take this as constructive criticism and try doing things differently? I mean, it seems most people are happy with them but w/e I'm just giving my (unwanted) take on the matter.

[holybatmon]

The review makes me wanna listen to the record again. First time I was kinda annoyed by the consistently hiiiigh vocals ^^"
I swear most vocal melodies on GWW were pretty much the same!

[Drew Beringer]

Or you could take this as constructive criticism and try doing things differently? I mean, it seems most people are happy with them but w/e I'm just giving my (unwanted) take on the matter.
but you didn't give any constructive criticism. Tell me what you would like me to do.

[holybatmon]

but you didn't give any constructive criticism. Tell me what you would like me to do.
Maybe just something other than "Artist description---> Song description (including member description)--->Difference/Anomolies---->end".
You just seem to be to formulaic. I know it's a review and not a fucking crime novel, but maybe just something with a bit less neutrality.

[B.G.]

So stoked to buy this tomorrow after school!

[SweetThye]

Love how you crushed all the Saosin comparisons.... I'm so tired of those. And like you said, SAW truly is better than Saosin. Good review btw.

[TriangularDuck]

Maybe just something other than "Artist description---> Song description (including member description)--->Difference/Anomolies---->end".
You just seem to be to formulaic. I know it's a review and not a fucking crime novel, but maybe just something with a bit less neutrality.

At least he tells me what the damn album sounds like, unlike some staff reviewers here who are great prose-wise and can tell me their opinion on the album well, but can't tell me what the fucking album sounds like. That's why Drew's reviews are my favourite on the site. I come out of his reviews and know if it's a CD I want to check out, which is all I need from a review.

[brokenwings]

i really enjoyed GWW but this really hasn't grown on me yet at all. will have to give it a second chance at another time.
nice review though, drew

[brent_ster]

Maybe just something other than "Artist description---> Song description (including member description)--->Difference/Anomolies---->end".
You just seem to be to formulaic. I know it's a review and not a fucking crime novel, but maybe just something with a bit less neutrality.
Well like Drew said that's his writing style, he feels comfortable and confident writing in that style so why would he change it passed on one guy with a Batman avatar.

I like the style it tells you everything you want to know about a album from a review without a long bulky boring intro.

Keep it up Drew.


And great review, I love this record and cant stop listening to it, better then Great White Whale which was also awesome.

[awakeohsleeper]

but you didn't give any constructive criticism. Tell me what you would like me to do.
Don't bother listening to such criticism. I enjoy your reviews.

[NateFoundGlory]

I'm getting bored of your reviews, Drew. There's no creativity, they're all the same structure and you've used pretty much every adjective in the book about 5 times. Yaaaaawwwnnn.

Anyway, I want this.
You can't expect the man to change his writing style every so and so reviews just so it isn't the same. I enjoyed the review, can't wait to get this tomorrow.

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

from the stream i would say this is a lot more slowed down than the original. of course i only listened through once.

[SophGod]

Great review, great album.

[Aphasia17]

Don't bother listening to such criticism. I enjoy your reviews.

I think they're great too, don't change a thing Drew! Awesome review for what I'm sure is gonna be an awesome album.

I'm even more excited that you said this was the album a Green-led Saosin would've made. I know they're different bands, but I'm still hoping in a way that Teenage Fantasy makes up for the awful In Search of Solid Ground.

[rawspinner]

okay, I can agree with them getting a bit more experimental. I think they did tinker with a few more things this time around than on their debut. Songs like Silver Mountain and Tiny Sparkle for example.

Would you rate this higher than Saosin's debut self-titled?

but you didn't give any constructive criticism. Tell me what you would like me to do.

I just thought this review was short. But still good.

[Yellowcard2006]

I don't think comparing them to saosin 5 times was really needed. Regardless good review, I've only listened to the first few tracks.

[inthemidst]

I have to disagree that this album is better than Great White Whale; it lacked the lyrical prowess, and a lot of the bite that their previous release performed quite effectively. Good review, otherwise.

[Young Machetes]

God I love this record.

Charles' voice is so much more pure sounding than Anthony.

I love Anthony Green, but his voice has been wrecked. He doesn't take care of it live.

[NOThaven777]

great review

its definatley worth the listen, I liked their debut album and i enjoyed this one better.

[barkingincision]

decent-ish review
great record

the fact that you failed to mention the mew influences startled me.

[Drew Beringer]

probably cause I think it sounds nothing like Mew.

[combatchuckaa]

At least he tells me what the damn album sounds like, unlike some staff reviewers here who are great prose-wise and can tell me their opinion on the album well, but can't tell me what the fucking album sounds like. That's why Drew's reviews are my favourite on the site. I come out of his reviews and know if it's a CD I want to check out, which is all I need from a review.

I agree.

[tjm125]

Soooooo happy that you incorporated an analogy (and a link) to the Old Spice commercial! Those things make me laugh EVERY time.

Also, kind of upset these guys keep getting grouped in with Saosin. Let them be their own band and keep making their brand of music...not Anthony's Saosin tunes.

[fightinirish217]

Nice review, I'm gonna check this out tomorrow.

[liquideasy]

Damn, was this site always full with a bunch on negative bastards? Maybe it was more appealing in high school...

ANYWAY, thanks for this long awaited review and I'm so excited for this album. It's been a while since a good album of this genre has been dropped, if you ask me!

[trappedintime]

buying this when it comes out! kudos to secret and whisper.

[Sean Rizzo]

is Saosin the only band allowed to use this style? A lot of music isn't original these days, it's how a band executes it and presents it.
this. this this this.
THIS.

And FYI all of you, for Secret and Whisper this IS experimental.

If you've listened to Charles' old band, thebleedingalarm, his vocals have changed quite a bit from then, and if you listen to Stutterfly you can tell that the rest of the band TOTALLY changed their style.

So seriously. Shut up about not being experimental, please. As a band they have changed so much from when they all first started, and I think Teenage Fantasy takes pretty big steps to the side from Great White Whale.

[superBMRuth]

In fact, Teenage Fantasy would have been the record that a Green-led Saosin would have created.

you had me there

[B4Bronco6]

SaW 2nd LP > Saosin 2nd LP by FAR.

Nice review. This album sounds excellent.

[danielineffigy]

I used to write this band off because of the blatant Saosin influence but after the snoozefest that was ISOSG I'm willing to accept that these guys have a place in my library now. Still...

Saosin - s/t > Secret and Whisper > Saosin - ISOSG

[I am Mick]

So glad you mentioned that SAW is a better band than Saosin. So sick of the comparisons.

[Drow Swordsman]

Can't wait to check this out, the lyrics are a bit of a downfall for it. I honestly think with stronger, more relatable lyrics, this could go from a good album to an amazing album.

[musikjunky311]

Pedestrian!!!!

[brothaman]

I agree.
i agree with your agreement.

[honestykills]

i have to say, this album didn't astound me on first listen.. but it's definitely a grower. youth cats is one of the best album openers in recent memory.

[HometownHero]

Album is good

[zubinmoosa]

Great review. Really looking forward to hearing this, loved Great White Whale

[JurassicKevin]

Much more powerful album than the last

[OurLadyCoolbean]

I have to disagree that this album is better than Great White Whale; it lacked the lyrical prowess, and a lot of the bite that their previous release performed quite effectively. Good review, otherwise.
I have to agree with that. I'm liking this the more I listen to it but with Great White Whale it was instantaneous. Great White Whale is seriously one of my favorite songs ever and XOXOXO is just plain awesome.

[canvasofwinter]

I'm LOVING this album. I disagree that the album isn't experimental in places- it has some very unique songs on it (Tiny Sparkle, Edge of Wilderness, Pretty Snarl, Whale Bones, and Silver Mountain all come to mind), and the guitar work on the less experimental songs just RAGES. As much as I loved Great White Whale, this is a step up in every way.

I also enjoy the lyrics a lot. They're kind of bizarre, and the infatuation with ocean life is just strange and prevalent enough that it gives the lyrics their own unique flavor. I don't think they're amazing, but they're weird and they're a lot more interesting to me than your standard high school breakup fare.

[SophGod]

Pretty Snarl is one of the sweetest transition tracks I've heard.

[kemichels]

probably cause I think it sounds nothing like Mew.
yeah I was ridiculously confused by who said that. I'd say Saosin/Fiore/Circa.

[Echo Park]

hope it's good. but still, stutterfly was amazing.

[Max_123]

i'm loving this album sooo much
his vocals are a lot toned down on this record which is a good thing because if there was anything bad about their debut it was the vocals and how they were "too much" if that makes any sense

[CoheedForever]

going to check this record out!

[mylohimself]

LOVE the new stuff!
these guys are soooo chill. Jordan the bassist is hillarious and such a people person
Charles stood behind the merch table himself and hung out. The whole band chilled for at least an hour after their show in KC last year. Jason can KILL it live. Guy is so entertaining to watch.
Love these guys; yes they sound similar to old Saosin and some Circa but I cannot compare them. I'm sure these guys are getting tired of being compared.
Progressed from their first release.

[mylohimself]

God I love this record.

Charles' voice is so much more pure sounding than Anthony.

I love Anthony Green, but his voice has been wrecked. He doesn't take care of it live.

LOL it has gotten raspy
last time I seen him (2 years ago?) I def thought he was on extacy the way he was sweating and dancing around haha Love the guy.

[Memphis]

I don't know, S&W always sounded too repetetive to me, this is no different, Saosin is still way better...

[the seventeenth]

I need this.

[phillipjacob]

one of the best bands on t&n

album is a natural progression from the last one

[joshua.]

is there a reason why the scores don't show up on the mobile site? or am i missing something?

[t00latef0rr0ses]

This is a really solid album, just like the first in my opinion. Really enjoy this band regardless of how much they are compared to Saosin (I have already spun this album more times than Saosin's most recent... twice.)

[Alysian]

The album is solid and very creative. Charles does not sound like either of those wieners! And if you actually knew him, you would understand his lyrics. There actually very real, metaphoric, and powerful! And that's what makes it so real and believable. Unlike a lot of others I must say. Secret & Whisper is going to replace bands like Saosin in a heartbeat. The album is an easy 8/10 i would say for most listeners. It lands a 10 in my books but I always leave room for Jordan and the teams creativity to impress me more over. They will never stop growing and will continue to impress. Great band. Great Music. Buy the record.

Paul
Producer/Engineer

[brandon_260]

I was slightly let down by this album. I felt it could have been better. There were definitely good songs, but at parts it started to get boring

[InBetweenAisles]

Really good review. Can't wait for this to release.

[LastDeclaration]

i can't get over that cover art. horrendous.

[phillycheese37]

I just can't help but think that this band would have been a lot better with a different vocalist...
:shrug:
he's very inconsistent live, and the lyrics are terrible. Also...."Teenage Fantasy"???? Really :hitself:

Edit: Forgot to mention the band name is pretty bad too....I don't know if the album name and the band name are from Charles or not....

p.s. I liked Stutterfly a lot so I guess take what I'm saying with a grain of salt

[silent_platypus]

Laughed so hard at the Terry Crews reference. Also that video isn't the end of the commercial, you think it is but then he comes back and says the blocking power is too intense to let the commercial end right then lolll.

anyway this sounds pretty cool, will check out.

[Ryan Gardner]

Great review, Drew; fantastic record.

[Java Nick]

Stoked for this album. Hopefully, they'll recieve some good promotion for this release. And I'm looking forward to a tour.

[DavidSAW]

Thanks Drew! And thanks everyone else for all the positive comments, you all rule!

[blissfulrain]

Amazing album.

[Jamos4184]

Can't wait to buy this. Hey Drew, I thought the album was produced by Jeff Schneeweis?

[krohny101]

i'm so sick of the saosin/secret and whisper comparisons. listen to "voices" and "xoxoxo". "xoxoxo" rocks way harder than "voices" and charles voice is way superior than cove's. i'm just comparing the styles they both use and how their sound doesn't even compare. i like both bands, but in my mind, they sound nothing alike. blokes.

[nathaniel]

I was going to get this anyway, but after reading this I might just drive two hours tomorrow to get it instead of waiting to get it online!

[heyozzie]

i cant wait to get this tomorrow. best buy better damn well have it.

[FBTMOPenguins]

Haven't heard this but it's not too hard nowadays to be better than Saosin.

[B.G.]

this is going to be $6 on amazn mp3 folks!

[low_rising]

this album is great it might not be as good as gww but its definitely progress and in a good direction cant wait to hear more from these guys they are really starting to come together and their sound is beginning to sound more original anyways loving this album cant wait to buy it

[DogSizedBird]

Haven't heard this but it's not too hard nowadays to be better than Saosin.
I approve of your username.

[aradiantsunrise]

god i HATE when people do this.
I know, I know. I'm not ''that guy'' often though.

[FBTMOPenguins]

I approve of your username.
God Bless.

[Joey (J-Train)]

The lead singer needs to work on his lyrics. They put me to sleep along with his unchanging high pitched singing. The rest of the band sounds real tight though, just the singer who needs a little bit of work

[B.G.]

The lead singer needs to work on his lyrics. They put me to sleep along with his unchanging high pitched singing. The rest of the band sounds real tight though, just the singer who needs a little bit of work
Charles seems to either be one the best and most misunderstood vocalists in music...or just complete garbage to most people haha.

ill put him in the first category IMO.

[brenByah]

I had no clue these guys used to be Stutterfly.

[CarouselBoy]

I chuckled at the line in Whale Bones where he says "you better keep your hands off my lady". Good review though. I'm super excited about picking this up. By the review I kind of expected an 80% score but I guess Creativity and Lyrics kept it down.

I'm LOVING this album. I disagree that the album isn't experimental in places- it has some very unique songs on it (Tiny Sparkle, Edge of Wilderness, Pretty Snarl, Whale Bones, and Silver Mountain all come to mind), and the guitar work on the less experimental songs just RAGES. As much as I loved Great White Whale, this is a step up in every way.

I also enjoy the lyrics a lot. They're kind of bizarre, and the infatuation with ocean life is just strange and prevalent enough that it gives the lyrics their own unique flavor. I don't think they're amazing, but they're weird and they're a lot more interesting to me than your standard high school breakup fare.

makes me think about how strange and infatuated with wildlife they were on the debut

is there a reason why the scores don't show up on the mobile site? or am i missing something?

no it's like that for every review. Def annoying ha

[CarouselBoy]

on a side note i wonder what anthony green thinks of them

[peewhai]

You people/morons still don't understand a damn thing.
Secret & Whisper is one goliath of a band.
We're in 2010 for god's sake. Saosin is old news, so stop writing SAW down as if they were nothing but mere copy cats.
They are everything a real band should be; uncompromising and honest.
At least show a bit of respect for all the hard work they've put into their band.

[oncedarkness]

I always love Drew's reviews. For one, it makes me excited for the right albums. Thanks, Drew.

[icynova]

Just added this to my "to buy" list, sweet review.

[thekazeblade]

I'm a die-hard SaW fan and I was happy to see that they've really honed their craft in this album. The only thing I was a little disappointed in was they didn't really have a "Great White Whale" song that ended the album with an amazing grand finale, though Silver Mountain still did a good job bringing the album to a close.

Plus I'm glad that others see that they have surpassed the current Saosin; it's about time SaW got their due. A bit on the short side, but a good review nonetheless.

[brothaman]

hope it's good. but still, stutterfly was amazing.
oh yes, this. this isnt half as heavy as stutterfly used to be, especailly musically. really, this album is a good bit softer than the first album, so i dont get the reviews that say this album "rages", cuz it really doesnt, but its still good.

[brothaman]

I had know clue these guys used to be Stutterfly.
yup. they changed their name when they changed lead singers.

[brothaman]

At least he tells me what the damn album sounds like, unlike some staff reviewers here who are great prose-wise and can tell me their opinion on the album well, but can't tell me what the fucking album sounds like. That's why Drew's reviews are my favourite on the site. I come out of his reviews and know if it's a CD I want to check out, which is all I need from a review.
this. all day long. dont try to be crass. just tell me what the shit sounds like.

[x13looDx]

Will be looking for it

[canvasofwinter]

oh yes, this. this isnt half as heavy as stutterfly used to be, especailly musically. really, this album is a good bit softer than the first album, so i dont get the reviews that say this album "rages", cuz it really doesnt, but its still good.
I wouldn't say the album rages in a heavy "chugga chugga" way, but a lot of the guitar work is super intense. There's a lot of fast, technical playing on here, and they like to add minor variations when the same part repeats in a song that go a long way towards establishing a sense of momentum.

[brothaman]

I wouldn't say the album rages in a heavy "chugga chugga" way, but a lot of the guitar work is super intense. There's a lot of fast, technical playing on here, and they like to add minor variations when the same part repeats in a song that go a long way towards establishing a sense of momentum.
nice response! i do notice the variations, and they are cool.

[B.G.]

only 7.99 at best buy!

[brook183]

this album is the direction i expected Saosin to go in, while Saosin"s ISOSG was more of what i had expected from this band. this is MUCH greater than ISOSG, good job secret and whisper

[Samc1803]

You people/morons still don't understand a damn thing.
Secret & Whisper is one goliath of a band.
We're in 2010 for god's sake. Saosin is old news, so stop writing SAW down as if they were nothing but mere copy cats.
They are everything a real band should be; uncompromising and honest.
At least show a bit of respect for all the hard work they've put into their band.
Someone's a little butthurt. Not like anyone's bashing them. In fact, most of the people here are either intrigued, or already impressed with the album.

[James RE Hughey]

I remember when Stutterfly were just starting out and they recorded at my friends studio in Orlando and than a while later they were on tour with Bedlight for Blue Eyes... I liked them okay, but they didn't stick. I really like what I have heard of this album. Never listened to the first. I hate the title though.

Is it just me or does the review praise this album more than the score? Maybe it is just me, but reading this review I am thinking it is probably around 80 at least.

[spinninganchor]

Ugh, I hate how people hate on their lyrics. Whatever happened to people enjoying creative and imaginative lyrics? Charles does a fantastic job of creating imagery which is in turn reflected perfectly by the music itself. Its nice to hear a band that doesn't just have a single statement that they find 100 differant ways of saying and then CRUUUUUSH it with hundreds of unnecessary adjectives. There is a difference between genuine creativity and an extensive vocabulary.

[vaguestcargo]

Ugh, I hate how people hate on their lyrics. Whatever happened to people enjoying creative and imaginative lyrics? Charles does a fantastic job of creating imagery which is in turn reflected perfectly by the music itself. Its nice to hear a band that doesn't just have a single statement that they find 100 differant ways of saying and then CRUUUUUSH it with hundreds of unnecessary adjectives. There is a difference between genuine creativity and an extensive vocabulary.
No. I love SAW because of their sound, but the lyrics are sooooo eye-roll worthy. They haven't been posted anywhere online yet (as far as I can find), but one of the tracks said something about "suntan lotion" and "my waterbed". C'mon... genuine creativity? That's Hannah Montana shit there.

[spinninganchor]

No. I love SAW because of their sound, but the lyrics are sooooo eye-roll worthy. They haven't been posted anywhere online yet (as far as I can find), but one of the tracks said something about "suntan lotion" and "my waterbed". C'mon... genuine creativity? That's Hannah Montana shit there.
If he's trying to capture the feeling of youth, which is one of the main focuses of teenage fantasy, he's going to use lighthearted words like "suntan lotion" and "water bed" its simply a matter of what is appropriate for the intended portrayal of a feeling.

[Scrawns]

its so great how everyone compares this band to Saosin like its some kind of battle. because you know, Saosin is in fact the ONLY band on earth who is allowed to use that style. anyone who comes even somewhat close must then be forever compared side to side with them in a competitive sense.

im sure when Saosin made their newest album they were like "instead of thinking about creativity lets focus on how it will sound compared to S&W". and we all know that S&W in the studio were thinking " lets make a record thats better than Saosin's."

[flavoredrums]

I really want to get this album asap. I love Secret and Whisper!!! :)

[abellaw]

I really liked this review i haven't made it through the whole album yet but it shows some promise. I think this band is really good and i think that a lot of valid points have been brought up about comparisons to saosin. I like both bands (apart from saosins last release) and with this album i might like SAW a lot more than saosin.


Lol i cant lie there have been some die hard fans that get butt hurt about only slight criticisms.

[Whatiscameron]

great review.

[canvasofwinter]

If he's trying to capture the feeling of youth, which is one of the main focuses of teenage fantasy, he's going to use lighthearted words like "suntan lotion" and "water bed" its simply a matter of what is appropriate for the intended portrayal of a feeling.
This guy totally gets it. The lyrics is supposed to evoke this kind of imagery.

[Jamos4184]

FINALLY got this and I'm lovin it. I think the problem with Furney's lyrics is not so much that they're bad or poorly written so much as they are so metaphorical that they come off as being nonsensical. Maybe it's just me?

[catherinexhimel]

Love this so much.

[CarouselBoy]

oh yes, this. this isnt half as heavy as stutterfly used to be, especailly musically. really, this album is a good bit softer than the first album, so i dont get the reviews that say this album "rages", cuz it really doesnt, but its still good.

I'd definitely have to disagree. Listen to GWW then TF. TF is definitely heavier.

only 7.99 at best buy!

couldn't find it there. Nor Target. Got it for 12.99 at hot topic.

I remember when Stutterfly were just starting out and they recorded at my friends studio in Orlando and than a while later they were on tour with Bedlight for Blue Eyes... I liked them okay, but they didn't stick. I really like what I have heard of this album. Never listened to the first. I hate the title though.

Is it just me or does the review praise this album more than the score? Maybe it is just me, but reading this review I am thinking it is probably around 80 at least.

it's cause he gave low scores for Lyrics and Creativity, both of which he criticized in the review.

Ugh, I hate how people hate on their lyrics. Whatever happened to people enjoying creative and imaginative lyrics? Charles does a fantastic job of creating imagery which is in turn reflected perfectly by the music itself. Its nice to hear a band that doesn't just have a single statement that they find 100 differant ways of saying and then CRUUUUUSH it with hundreds of unnecessary adjectives. There is a difference between genuine creativity and an extensive vocabulary.

FINALLY got this and I'm lovin it. I think the problem with Furney's lyrics is not so much that they're bad or poorly written so much as they are so metaphorical that they come off as being nonsensical. Maybe it's just me?

I agree with both of you, they're not straightforward lyrics. Either they're heavily metaphorical, and/or talking about subjects that are foreign to a lot of us. I'm surprised no one's said it but TF seems to be heavily influenced by Native American motifs. And I can't tell if it just for metaphorical purposes or if it's a more direct type of writing.

[Blake Solomon]

album really surprised me. "bedroom galaxy" has my number for sure.

[B.G.]

Diggin' it

[Color Morale]

I'd definitely have to disagree. Listen to GWW then TF. TF is definitely heavier.



couldn't find it there. Nor Target. Got it for 12.99 at hot topic.



it's cause he gave low scores for Lyrics and Creativity, both of which he criticized in the review.





I agree with both of you, they're not straightforward lyrics. Either they're heavily metaphorical, and/or talking about subjects that are foreign to a lot of us. I'm surprised no one's said it but TF seems to be heavily influenced by Native American motifs. And I can't tell if it just for metaphorical purposes or if it's a more direct type of writing.
are secret and whisper going t tour?

[icynova]

I have to special order this because non of the Best Buys or Targets around here carry this. :( weird....

[HatShapedHat]

Great album.

[CarouselBoy]

are secret and whisper going t tour?
I have no idea. Not sure why you asked me....

[JDizzzle]

they officially showed everyone they dont freakin sound like saosin! at all! there 1st album already didnt sound like them. people just heard a few tracks and stereo typed them...but their new album showed everybody up...they proved how good they are at their instruments on this album and if u dont have it u need to buy it!

[jess' man]

fantastic album. The vocals, guitars, bass, drums every thing is amazing. Drum fills are so good ( esp. on bedroom galaxy and famous for a century.) Also, silver mountain is epic.

[Geldofpunk]

It's pretty good. My only complaint is they sound exactly like Saosin. Singing grates on the nerves at times too.

[JuneJuly]

Giving this a listen finally. Sorta disappointing, but I still enjoy it.

[TylerD17]

id love to hear them make a song thats totally out of their comfort zone. they have the full talent to do so. itd be so cool to hear an acoustic EP

[DrStrong]

I just got the CD, im on track 5, so far I havent heard any screaming. Im glad.

[mrnichols]

i thought the guitarwork was more impressive on their last album, but it was still solid

[JDizzzle]

just cuz saosin and secret and whisper both have heavy guitar and high vocals doesnt make them anything alike.....i thought they kinda sounded alike when i first listened to them...but they r nothing alike....totally different melodies and songs

[ThreeDog]

This album does sound good. Sound good. The lyrics are kind of weak, but the unique sounds in here really make up for it and makes the album last. I do agree that Charles is a hybrid of Cove and Anthony's voice though. Nice sophmore album