Recording

[herestoyoufla]

I'm in a pop/rock band and we believe we finally have some pretty good stuff, music that we're proud of.
Basically, i want to know if it's worth the extra money to record with a decent producer/studio or if we should
record the cheap way with good software on a mac. We would be recording in Earthsound studios, valdasta. He's recorded
Mayday Parade's first album, Stages and stereos, and a couple of other decent bands.
Thoughts?

[bradsonemanband]

how long have you been a band? would this be your band's record?

honestly, you can do great sounding recordings on your own.

my band (www.myspace.com/theglassgentlemen) recorded all our stuff in my bedroom with my shitty equipment, and i think it sounds pretty decent for our first album.

[herestoyoufla]

how long have you been a band? would this be your band's record?

honestly, you can do great sounding recordings on your own.

my band (www.myspace.com/theglassgentlemen (http://www.myspace.com/theglassgentlemen)) recorded all our stuff in my bedroom with my shitty equipment, and i think it sounds pretty decent for our first album.

yeah, it'd be for our 7 song EP. I joined the band july last year, they recorded 3 songs to put up on the Myspace before i had joined as the new singer.
Do you think this type of recording quality would be okay?
www.myspace.com/dramaparty (http://www.myspace.com/dramaparty)

i can't look at your link cause i'm at work...

[bradsonemanband]

yeah, it'd be for our 7 song EP. I joined the band july last year, they recorded 3 songs to put up on the Myspace before i had joined as the new singer.
Do you think this type of recording quality would be okay?
www.myspace.com/dramaparty (http://www.myspace.com/dramaparty)

i can't look at your link cause i'm at work...

haha shit. i cant look at yours cuz im at work too! myspace is blocked. hahaha
try this, if you can: www.theglassgentlemen.bandcamp.com

but yeah, ours sound pretty good. granted we only had to record vocals and guitars. the rest was done on Reason.

[herestoyoufla]

haha shit. i cant look at yours cuz im at work too! myspace is blocked. hahaha
try this, if you can: www.theglassgentlemen.bandcamp.com (http://www.theglassgentlemen.bandcamp.com)

but yeah, ours sound pretty good. granted we only had to record vocals and guitars. the rest was done on Reason.

ahh i see.
What city are you in/ what kind of music is it?

[bradsonemanband]

ahh i see.
What city are you in/ what kind of music is it?

we're based in Orem, Utah. its pop/rock music with electronic-ness.

[herestoyoufla]

we're based in Orem, Utah. its pop/rock music with electronic-ness.

Ahhh i see, same style for the most part then.

[bradsonemanband]

Ahhh i see, same style for the most part then.

in my opinion, i wouldn't blow money on a studio if you already have stuff to do a decent recording yourselves. unless you are loaded and can afford going into a legit studio with a producer... in that case, i'd do it. haha

[herestoyoufla]

in my opinion, i wouldn't blow money on a studio if you already have stuff to do a decent recording yourselves. unless you are loaded and can afford going into a legit studio with a producer... in that case, i'd do it. haha

Well, for Earthsound (i don't know if you've heard of them) it'd cost about $2500....

[bradsonemanband]

Well, for Earthsound (i don't know if you've heard of them) it'd cost about $2500....

to ME, that would be COOL to do a recording with them, however, i don't think i actually would until you can all really afford it. do a home recording, and save that money to professionally print and duplicate the CD. that's what i would do.

[rawkandrowl]

I say do what you feel like. If you think you can make back the 2500 or you just have that much around to blow for some reason, go for it. Why NOT! If that is a stretch for you though I don't see why you would.

PS you might think about recording it all yourself either way. You learn a lot about some songs DURING the recording process, not beforehand, so that's why a lot of bands do "pre-production" or record demos before they ever go into the studio. You can reveal and fix a lot of arrangement problems without wasting the time in the studio. Studio time should be treated like a ninja operation. Get in, nail the parts, and get out. Time is money. The more you screw up in there the more money you waste.

[herestoyoufla]

to ME, that would be COOL to do a recording with them, however, i don't think i actually would until you can all really afford it. do a home recording, and save that money to professionally print and duplicate the CD. that's what i would do.

The only thing with that is, who is going to buy a local band's cd twice, no matter how much better the quality is?

[herestoyoufla]

I say do what you feel like. If you think you can make back the 2500 or you just have that much around to blow for some reason, go for it. Why NOT! If that is a stretch for you though I don't see why you would.

PS you might think about recording it all yourself either way. You learn a lot about some songs DURING the recording process, not beforehand, so that's why a lot of bands do "pre-production" or record demos before they ever go into the studio. You can reveal and fix a lot of arrangement problems without wasting the time in the studio. Studio time should be treated like a ninja operation. Get in, nail the parts, and get out. Time is money. The more you screw up in there the more money you waste.

Yeah, we're recording a demo reguardless, just so we have something to take with us if we DO decide to get it redone professionally.

[bradsonemanband]

The only thing with that is, who is going to buy a local band's cd twice, no matter how much better the quality is?

i'm not saying to record it at home first and then re-record it with a pro studio. i'm saying maybe record at home and then sell those at shows, get a bigger following, make money, and then record your next album in a pro-studio. i dunno, i'm just throwing ideas out there. haha

but i agree with what the other dude said. if you have the money to blow, or you think you can make it all back, do it at a studio. it'd be a cool experience.

[herestoyoufla]

i'm not saying to record it at home first and then re-record it with a pro studio. i'm saying maybe record at home and then sell those at shows, get a bigger following, make money, and then record your next album in a pro-studio. i dunno, i'm just throwing ideas out there. haha

but i agree with what the other dude said. if you have the money to blow, or you think you can make it all back, do it at a studio. it'd be a cool experience.

ahhh alright. Well we did sell a little 3 track package a while back, and have been playing for almost 2 years locally, so it's probably time we release a professionally done album...haha

[bradsonemanband]

ahhh alright. Well we did sell a little 3 track package a while back, and have been playing for almost 2 years locally, so it's probably time we release a professionally done album...haha

if you can afford it, go for it. have you looked into getting the finished product printed and duplicated? that stuff can be costly, as well.

i did a little basic research for you. for 1,000 CDs in jewel cases with a 4-panel insert, it'll be about $990 total. this website (http://www.discmakers.com) is easy to play around with different packages/quotes.

[herestoyoufla]

Damn, i forgot about including that into costs...I'll have to look into it.
Thanks, this site looks pretty helpful.

[bradsonemanband]

Damn, i forgot about including that into costs...I'll have to look into it.
Thanks, this site looks pretty helpful.

yeaaah... its expensive. unless you plan on promoting this album for a while, you probably dont need quite 1,000 CDs. haha

[herestoyoufla]

yeaaah... its expensive. unless you plan on promoting this album for a while, you probably dont need quite 1,000 CDs. haha

Yeah that'd prolly be overestimating, haha.
Prolly just buy a couple hundred at a time.

[bradsonemanband]

Yeah that'd prolly be overestimating, haha.
Prolly just buy a couple hundred at a time.

definitely. that's what i would do, as well. for 500, i think its like only 200 dollars less than getting 1,000 though. but if you spend all that, you'll have so many copies of your CD laying around the rest of your life. hahaha jk

[herestoyoufla]

definitely. that's what i would do, as well. for 500, i think its like only 200 dollars less than getting 1,000 though. but if you spend all that, you'll have so many copies of your CD laying around the rest of your life. hahaha jk

haha you haven't heard this shit.
:)

[bradsonemanband]

haha you haven't heard this shit.
:)

haha i know! i meant to listen to yesterday after i got off work, but i ended up not really going home til late, so i forgot. today i will check you guys out. in a non sexual way...

[herestoyoufla]

haha i know! i meant to listen to yesterday after i got off work, but i ended up not really going home til late, so i forgot. today i will check you guys out. in a non sexual way...

haha alright. Umm, i guess just listen to the guitar? hahaha
Cause i replaced the old lead singer...
It's gonna sound much more 'poppy' now.

[bradsonemanband]

haha alright. Umm, i guess just listen to the guitar? hahaha
Cause i replaced the old lead singer...
It's gonna sound much more 'poppy' now.

cool. i'm looking forward to hearing it.

[herestoyoufla]

sweet. What's your band again?
I'll check them out...

[bradsonemanband]

sweet. What's your band again?
I'll check them out...

The Glass Gentlemen
http://theglassgentlemen.bandcamp.com/
http://myspace.com/theglassgentlemen

[herestoyoufla]

The Glass Gentlemen
http://theglassgentlemen.bandcamp.com/
http://myspace.com/theglassgentlemen

Cool, were these recorded by yourselves?

[bradsonemanband]

Cool, were these recorded by yourselves?

yup. everything was recorded/programmed in my bedroom.

[herestoyoufla]

yup. everything was recorded/programmed in my bedroom.
What software do you use?

[bradsonemanband]

What software do you use?

Propellerhead Reason for all the instruments (except guitars) and then we record vocals and guitars through Acoustica Mixcraft.

[herestoyoufla]

Propellerhead Reason for all the instruments (except guitars) and then we record vocals and guitars through Acoustica Mixcraft.
ahh alright, i've never heard of either but the recording's sound decent from the snippet i heard.
I'm at work again, and am lacking headphones, lol

[rawkandrowl]

Hey just wanted to throw out don't forget the following potential costs when you're thinking about recording:

Mixing
Mastering
Album art / design
Duplication
Promotion
Related Merch

Also I want to shout out for cdpostershop.com. They have better prices than discmakers.com if you plan to make less than 1000 records.

[herestoyoufla]

Hey just wanted to throw out don't forget the following potential costs when you're thinking about recording:

Mixing
Mastering
Album art / design
Duplication
Promotion
Related Merch

Also I want to shout out for cdpostershop.com. They have better prices than discmakers.com if you plan to make less than 1000 records.

Ahhhh thanks! Yeah, we're definitely not ordering 1000 from the get go.