9-11 was a lie

[xcomebackkid]

here are the facts, its a little slow at first. but it gets right into it.
it changed my views on this govt so much
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726
watch it.

[smokedsanity]

Yeah, this movie was talked about on here a while back. Some science magazine went through and disproved every point I believe.

[RememberFminus2]

It's also completely wrong and has all been disproven. Don't believe everything you see on the internet.

dont believe everything you watch on cnn.

keep in mind i dont exclusively believe it was a lie or anything

[Broken Parachute]

Welcome to 2006, sucka. Loose Change is old news.

[xvszero]

I always find it funny how people who distrust the government so much don't really worry about if anti-government sources are telling the truth or can actually back up their claims.

[kramXLI]

I won't believe my government, but I'll believe a random video someone put together on the internet.

[xcomebackkid]

dont worry, im not some extreamist. im just saying, they have alot of good points that keep me scratchin my head.
plus even if scientists disprove points ppl are just gonna be like "psh...well....they.....are obiosly working for the goverment. YOU CANT SEE PAST THE LIES!!!!"

[Broken Parachute]

After all, they're only the government. What do they know?

[RememberFminus2]

I won't believe my government, but I'll believe a random video someone put together on the internet.


this type of thinking ( in terms of your sarcasam) is the downfall of the US. We are always supposed to be weary of our government and trust the citizens of the United states before all else.

[johnarc]

don't believe anything you read ever. everything's fucked. we'll all be dead soon.

[xvszero]

this type of thinking ( in terms of your sarcasam) is the downfall of the US. We are always supposed to be weary of our government and trust the citizens of the United states before all else.

Trust which citizens, the ones who made the video or the ones who made the video showing why the video was wrong?

I hope you don't honestly believe that we should trust everything we see on the INTERNET.

[FScott]

don't believe anything you read ever. everything's fucked. we'll all be dead soon.


love it

[fcknazisympathy]

old news
/thread

[thebestkylever]

here are the facts, its a little slow at first. but it gets right into it.
it changed my views on this govt so much
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726
watch it.

you're adopted.

[HeyCoffeeEyes]

See, I don't get why anyone cares about conspiracy theories like this. Did the government plan 9/11? Better question: who gives a shit? Since then our government has killed 20,000 people in Iraq and our money, weapons and bombs just killed over a thousand in Gaza and Lebanon. If you want to call out our leaders for being murderous liars, you've got two chances right there. It's like people who get all mad becuase the Pope might have been a Nazi as a kid. I don't care if he was a fascist youth because his current positions on glbt rights and women's rights and sex ed are still fascist, and he's perfectly open about it.

Um, so I guess the moral of the rant is don't go snooping for dirt you'll never be able to prove when the real struggle is right in front of your face.

[xllirikx]

one video should never change your view on anything. If thats the case, you'de be a puppet of anything any clever film director makes.

What if some one made a video telling you that jews were bad people, would you support anti-semitism?

Get the fact, read more, do more personal research and then make up an opinion.


Think for yourself!

[Alex Djaferis]

moronic.

[Zeran]

Yeah, this movie was talked about on here a while back. Some science magazine went through and disproved every point I believe.

exactly.

[lfdfforever]

don't believe anything you read ever. everything's fucked. we'll all be dead soon. very true, the end is near

[Buried A Lie]

here are the facts, its a little slow at first. but it gets right into it.
it changed my views on this govt so much
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726
watch it.

one video on the internet and you're convinced????

[buysoap]

here are the facts, its a little slow at first. but it gets right into it.
it changed my views on this govt so much
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726
watch it.



if i had banning power i would use it on you. im not the most american guy in the world. lord knows i have my grievences with the government. but this is fucking bullshit. and to actually watch this and be like "omg!!!" is idiocy.

[buysoap]

one video should never change your view on anything. If thats the case, you'de be a puppet of anything any clever film director makes.

What if some one made a video telling you that jews were bad people, would you support anti-semitism?

Get the fact, read more, do more personal research and then make up an opinion.


Think for yourself!

......what if? there are like a million of those videos! there was an egyptian television show that portrayed the eleders of zion meetings as "history." it was called horseman without a horse.

and anyway, the jews are bad people. i should know. i am one.

[myaimistruex3]

See, I don't get why anyone cares about conspiracy theories like this. Did the government plan 9/11? Better question: who gives a shit? Since then our government has killed 20,000 people in Iraq and our money, weapons and bombs just killed over a thousand in Gaza and Lebanon. If you want to call out our leaders for being murderous liars, you've got two chances right there. It's like people who get all mad becuase the Pope might have been a Nazi as a kid. I don't care if he was a fascist youth because his current positions on glbt rights and women's rights and sex ed are still fascist, and he's perfectly open about it.

Um, so I guess the moral of the rant is don't go snooping for dirt you'll never be able to prove when the real struggle is right in front of your face.

thank you.
you couldnt have said it any better.

[justinevans]

one video should never change your view on anything. If thats the case, you'de be a puppet of anything any clever film director makes.

What if some one made a video telling you that jews were bad people, would you support anti-semitism?

Get the fact, read more, do more personal research and then make up an opinion.


Think for yourself!

Welcome to 13-18 year old America.

[justinevans]

here are the facts, its a little slow at first. but it gets right into it.
it changed my views on this govt so much
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726
watch it.

shut up.

[The Matt Kaufman]

this thread is ridiculous...anyone who believes 9-11 was a lie or a conspiracy is dumb

[Scott Weber]

Loose change is full of stuff like "There's no way that steel should have melted that's crazy!!!" - Professor of applied physical sciences for Art majors at University of New Mexico Community College State Vocational School.

[Shatter590]

doesnt change what i saw on 9/11. doesnt change that it happened

[xxaac312xx]

See you guys are all missing the point, there's a real threat out there. Who cares about terrorists on planes..when there are mothaf*ckin' SNAKES on our planes!!

Yeah that was really dumb, but lighten up, go see a movie..how about..snakes on a plane.

And yes, HeyCoffeeEyes is absolutely right, we should really be focusing on what damage the goverment is actually doing in the world, not conspiracy theories, although videos like this make some interesting points.

[bigmike]

Sup 8 months ago?

[histrionics22]

Loose change is full of stuff like "There's no way that steel should have melted that's crazy!!!" - Professor of applied physical sciences for Art majors at University of New Mexico Community College State Vocational School.

Haha. So true.

[Juliana101]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

this should answer all your questions

All Hail King Maddox.

[we are cured]

none of you will ever know how it went down, so don't waste your time worrying about it.

[xllirikx]

Welcome to 13-18 year old America.

yeah, i guess so.

[xllirikx]

none of you will ever know how it went down, so don't waste your time worrying about it.

I think that what brings up so much confusion, and the one good thing this conspiracy is for - getting people to ask questions. As american, and victims of terrorism, we should know exactly what happened, so that we can prevent it next time.

we should worry about it. ask questions every day about it.

[Justin_stacy]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

this should answer all your questions

All Hail King Maddox.

that glen beck is an asshole thing was fantastic.

[we are cured]

I think that what brings up so much confusion, and the one good thing this conspiracy is for - getting people to ask questions. As american, and victims of terrorism, we should know exactly what happened, so that we can prevent it next time.

we should worry about it. ask questions every day about it.

i certainly agree with your first point. questions are good. however, you say 'so that we can prevent it next time.' you actually think the government is even going to consider listening to you about this?? there is so much going on that we have no idea about, and the things that truly matter get revealed to us in the same fashion as radio's 7 second delay, yet with about a 70 year delay.

and while i admire your faith in the american system of public trial and error, that's simply not the way it works. history has proven, at least for the past 2-300 years, that when something happens involving attacks on governments, the truth is a.) never disclosed to prevent further security breaches from occurring and b.) angled to curb citizen unrest. now i do not believe that the choices government officials make should override the consensus of the public. however, i do believe that these officials make decisions in the best interests of controlling their governments, and if that means hiding information for a hundred years, it's going to happen. is it right? doesn't matter, you can't do shit about it.

my original point should have been, there's no use arguing about any of this. use it for your own thought stimulation.

[OveriseFan]

:shake:

[xvszero]

See, I don't get why anyone cares about conspiracy theories like this. Did the government plan 9/11? Better question: who gives a shit? Since then our government has killed 20,000 people in Iraq and our money, weapons and bombs just killed over a thousand in Gaza and Lebanon. If you want to call out our leaders for being murderous liars, you've got two chances right there. It's like people who get all mad becuase the Pope might have been a Nazi as a kid. I don't care if he was a fascist youth because his current positions on glbt rights and women's rights and sex ed are still fascist, and he's perfectly open about it.

Um, so I guess the moral of the rant is don't go snooping for dirt you'll never be able to prove when the real struggle is right in front of your face.

Except that if the government *was* behind 9/11 that was straight up murder, whereas there are real legitimate wars going on against factions that should not be ruling anyone, anywhere. You can make the argument that the wars aren't the best thing for the people or the world as a whole, but it isn't quite the same as just ramming some planes into a building.

[FrankMareno]

one video should never change your view on anything. If thats the case, you'de be a puppet of anything any clever film director makes.

What if some one made a video telling you that jews were bad people, would you support anti-semitism?

Get the fact, read more, do more personal research and then make up an opinion.


Think for yourself!

exactly, everyone should read everything even cnn with an open mind to get all the information, thats what i think and there is so much information on the 9/11 truth.

[DeadCityScars]

9-11 was not a lie

[FrankMareno]

9-11 was a lie

[FrankMareno]

9-11 was not a lie

[FrankMareno]

it was just planned by our fucking goverment

[justinevans]

exactly, everyone should read everything even cnn with an open mind to get all the information, thats what i think and there is so much information on the 9/11 truth.

why would you only read one source to get all the information?

[concernedparent]

here are the facts, its a little slow at first. but it gets right into it.
it changed my views on this govt so much
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726
watch it.
I don't feel like watching that whole thing...are people really amazed that the gov't could be lying to us? Hasn't anyone here ever taken a damn history class?

[justinevans]

I don't feel like watching that whole thing...are people really amazed that the gov't could be lying to us? Hasn't anyone here ever taken a damn history class?

Yes, but I know for a fact who has many of the videos for the WTC's...and it isn't the government.

[richter915]

i certainly agree with your first point. questions are good. however, you say 'so that we can prevent it next time.' you actually think the government is even going to consider listening to you about this?? there is so much going on that we have no idea about, and the things that truly matter get revealed to us in the same fashion as radio's 7 second delay, yet with about a 70 year delay.

and while i admire your faith in the american system of public trial and error, that's simply not the way it works. history has proven, at least for the past 2-300 years, that when something happens involving attacks on governments, the truth is a.) never disclosed to prevent further security breaches from occurring and b.) angled to curb citizen unrest. now i do not believe that the choices government officials make should override the consensus of the public. however, i do believe that these officials make decisions in the best interests of controlling their governments, and if that means hiding information for a hundred years, it's going to happen. is it right? doesn't matter, you can't do shit about it.

my original point should have been, there's no use arguing about any of this. use it for your own thought stimulation.
I love this...ur 22 and ur mentality is...if u can't change it, don't bother. dumbass america right here. Whether u can change shit or not shouldn't matter...you have the right to know this as an american citizen who votes for the officials who may or may not cover things up. that's why you should be informed...to sustain democracy.

[richter915]

It's also completely wrong and has all been disproven. Don't believe everything you see on the internet.
can you show me where it's been disproven point for point with no further discrepancy?

edit: http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html this works good I think...

[takinbaksunda00]

I love this...ur 22 and ur mentality is...if u can't change it, don't bother. dumbass america right here. Whether u can change shit or not shouldn't matter...you have the right to know this as an american citizen who votes for the officials who may or may not cover things up. that's why you should be informed...to sustain democracy.

amen .

[lightcollapse]

HAHAH

if there WAS a conspiracy, NOT EVERYONE IN THE FUCKING ADMINISTRATION, PILOTS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS ETC. WOULD KEEP IT A FUCKING SECRET. SOMEBODY ALWAYS LETS IT OUT.

holy shit threads like this are so fucking dumb.

[imovemountains]

so...9/11 was a lie?
so...all those people didn't REALLY die
those buildings didn't REALLY come down
or, did you mean that the people who were BLAMED for it occuring were falsely accused?
if bush wrote some guys a fucking hallmark card telling them to do it, it doesn't change the fact that it happened does it?
and no, i'm not old enough to vote for these "lying" officials...so i really don't give a shit as of now
saying that if it doesn't bother you, you don't care isn't ignorance...it's realistic
like...does montana need to be watching their back for a terrorist threat?
worrying about things that does not concern oneself is just time and money consuming

[unwritten]

It happened. It is one of the worst tragedies in history. We will perhaps never know the truth so there's no purpose in arguing over this.

[justinevans]

people the debate here is not about whether 9/11 was a lie... it is about a conspiracy from the extreme left, disproven by the extreme right...the extreme left came back with other videos...they continually get disproven because of the same shit.

Now I admit there are some sketchy things, but you people need to stop putting all your eggs in one basket with this video shit. People love creating drama. No one has the exact evidence of each circumstance.

The towers came down and I know people who died.

Insurance companies hold most of the videos that have to do with the WTC.

I do believe the plane in PA was shot down.

If this was a conspiracy, the person who planned it has to be dead. There is no way in hell someone could keep this secretive for so long. It would have to spill somehow with our age in media.

It is one thing to have a conspiracy with JFK...

With this it is alot harder because there are so many other people involved. Terrorists, American citizens, the government, pilots, etc.

We live in a greedy population and can access the media as quickly as we want. Something would have came out.

[lfdfforever]

the mothman is real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

[lfdfforever]

we never landed on the moon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lfdfforever]

jfk was shot by the mob!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lfdfforever]

9-11 was a cover up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Troggy]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

[lfdfforever]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons oh shit

[justinevans]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

hahah literally amazing.

[xvszero]

As much as I think the conspiracy is a joke, that page makes no sense. The major reasons the US government wouldn't kill the kid is...

A. Because except for Internet nerds most people think the conspiracy is a joke so there is no point

but

B. killing off the kid that made the video would give the video a LOT of momentum and people would believe it just because the kid died of mysterious causes and it would probably also turn into a major news story.

[richter915]

people the debate here is not about whether 9/11 was a lie... it is about a conspiracy from the extreme left, disproven by the extreme right...the extreme left came back with other videos...they continually get disproven because of the same shit.

Now I admit there are some sketchy things, but you people need to stop putting all your eggs in one basket with this video shit. People love creating drama. No one has the exact evidence of each circumstance.

The towers came down and I know people who died.

Insurance companies hold most of the videos that have to do with the WTC.

I do believe the plane in PA was shot down.

If this was a conspiracy, the person who planned it has to be dead. There is no way in hell someone could keep this secretive for so long. It would have to spill somehow with our age in media.

It is one thing to have a conspiracy with JFK...

With this it is alot harder because there are so many other people involved. Terrorists, American citizens, the government, pilots, etc.

We live in a greedy population and can access the media as quickly as we want. Something would have came out.
totally agree accept for maybe the start...I don't see it as the extreme left making these videos...rather...conspiracy theorists who are neither left nor right....and it's disproven not by the extreme right but rather people who think things through before they open their mouths. the link I posted earlier...the guy openly belittles certain neo-con policies...the popular mechanics (I think) article is also unbiased in my opinion.

[FrankMareno]

why would you only read one source to get all the information?

i said >>>>>>>>>>"everything"<<<<<<<<< could be an online blog or punkvoter.com or from a book just more then one source.

[richter915]

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons
the link was posted earlier...I just can't stand the hypocricy of maddox...he says the kid has too much time on his hand for making the video yet Maddox has become a legend because he has too much time on his hand.

tho I love the line "bukkaked with stupid" and I will use it often during socio-political debate amongst friends and family.

[richter915]

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html

I posted that earlier as a site that "debunks" the conspiracy theorists...now I'm finding several problems amongst their sources for debunking...is it worth emailing the guy? would he seriously listen?

[concernedparent]

Ok, I don't feel like watching the whole video, but could someone please explain what the government would have to gain by blowing up the twin towers?

[justinevans]

i said >>>>>>>>>>"everything"<<<<<<<<< could be an online blog or punkvoter.com or from a book just more then one source.

hahahah an online blog, someone's opinion. Punkvoter.com

THESE ARE ALL WEBSITES THAT SAY THERE WAS A CONSPIRACY MORON. I MEAN READ THINGS FROM THE OTHER SIDE

[we are cured]

I love this...ur 22 and ur mentality is...if u can't change it, don't bother. dumbass america right here. Whether u can change shit or not shouldn't matter...you have the right to know this as an american citizen who votes for the officials who may or may not cover things up. that's why you should be informed...to sustain democracy.

Well I think you're missing my point. Yes I did say that governments will hide information in order to curb citizen unrest, and there is nothing you can do about it. But if you read the last line of my post, I said that my original point was that people should not waste their time arguing about this subject, as they ARE NOT INFORMED AND WILL NEVER BE PROPERLY INFORMED TO SUSTAIN A LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT. And that questions were good. You're not going to find out who killed JFK, at least not until 2020 or whenever its released. So why ARGUE about it? The conspiracy information is great and makes people wonder, but its NO USE GETTING HEATED over.

Dumbass America? Please. The fact that I've watched loose change twice, and read the complete 9/11 commission report (which properly analyzed the threat even if it didn't accurately analyze the event) assures me that I like to remain informed about this topic. I believe something went down that day, but I'm not going to argue about it because I don't form arguments based on anything but logic; some people like to substantiate their positions from hatred or feelings toward a subject or symbol, but that is just not me.

You don't have a clue as what my 'mentality is,' so don't try to infer it from two posts in a thread about September 11, and to attempt to label me as somebody that sees a challenge and backs down is fairly lame given your tiny sample size. I agree that we have a responsibility to elect officials who 'may or may not cover things up.' But take a political science major's word for it: getting elected and running a country are two entirely different things. Becoming informed about a candidate is great, as it IS your responsibility to put them in office, but becoming informed about an elected official is much more difficult because most information is selectively made available to the public.

Oh and dude, let's go rangers.

[justinevans]

Well I think you're missing my point. Yes I did say that governments will hide information in order to curb citizen unrest, and there is nothing you can do about it. But if you read the last line of my post, I said that my original point was that people should not waste their time arguing about this subject, as they ARE NOT INFORMED AND WILL NEVER BE PROPERLY INFORMED TO SUSTAIN A LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT. And that questions were good. You're not going to find out who killed JFK, at least not until 2020 or whenever its released. So why ARGUE about it? The conspiracy information is great and makes people wonder, but its NO USE GETTING HEATED over.

Dumbass America? Please. The fact that I've watched loose change twice, and read the complete 9/11 commission report (which properly analyzed the threat even if it didn't accurately analyze the event) assures me that I like to remain informed about this topic. I believe something went down that day, but I'm not going to argue about it because I don't form arguments based on anything but logic; some people like to substantiate their positions from hatred or feelings toward a subject or symbol, but that is just not me.

You don't have a clue as what my 'mentality is,' so don't try to infer it from two posts in a thread about September 11, and to attempt to label me as somebody that sees a challenge and backs down is fairly lame given your tiny sample size. I agree that we have a responsibility to elect officials who 'may or may not cover things up.' But take a political science major's word for it: getting elected and running a country are two entirely different things. Becoming informed about a candidate is great, as it IS your responsibility to put them in office, but becoming informed about an elected official is much more difficult because most information is selectively made available to the public.

Oh and dude, let's go rangers.

fuck the Rangers

[we are cured]

fuck the Rangers

fuck philadelphia.

actually jk, you guys have pat's.

[justinevans]

fuck philadelphia.

actually jk, you guys have pat's.

haha Pat's isn't even the best cheese steak place there.

[we are cured]

haha Pat's isn't even the best cheese steak place there.

fill me in man, i need to know these things.

[justinevans]

fill me in man, i need to know these things.

Rick's, Tony Luke's

[richter915]

Well I think you're missing my point. Yes I did say that governments will hide information in order to curb citizen unrest, and there is nothing you can do about it. But if you read the last line of my post, I said that my original point was that people should not waste their time arguing about this subject, as they ARE NOT INFORMED AND WILL NEVER BE PROPERLY INFORMED TO SUSTAIN A LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT. And that questions were good. You're not going to find out who killed JFK, at least not until 2020 or whenever its released. So why ARGUE about it? The conspiracy information is great and makes people wonder, but its NO USE GETTING HEATED over.

Dumbass America? Please. The fact that I've watched loose change twice, and read the complete 9/11 commission report (which properly analyzed the threat even if it didn't accurately analyze the event) assures me that I like to remain informed about this topic. I believe something went down that day, but I'm not going to argue about it because I don't form arguments based on anything but logic; some people like to substantiate their positions from hatred or feelings toward a subject or symbol, but that is just not me.

You don't have a clue as what my 'mentality is,' so don't try to infer it from two posts in a thread about September 11, and to attempt to label me as somebody that sees a challenge and backs down is fairly lame given your tiny sample size. I agree that we have a responsibility to elect officials who 'may or may not cover things up.' But take a political science major's word for it: getting elected and running a country are two entirely different things. Becoming informed about a candidate is great, as it IS your responsibility to put them in office, but becoming informed about an elected official is much more difficult because most information is selectively made available to the public.

Oh and dude, let's go rangers.
true that. well said. I shoulda clearly read what you said, that was my mistake. I think that the importance of debating this issue is because it helps give rise to more questions which is worth looking into. Without debate, people generally ignore the issue. Yes I think it's retarded when people say "the gov't did it, that's all" and people reply with "no they didn't, ur gay"...so we agree on that I think...but like you said it's important to look into the shit.

I shouldn't draw conclusions about you so quickly. That's wrong. I know there's no changing already elected officials but we know that many elected officials can have an influence on future elected officials...hypothetically, if there was some tiny bit of truth in all of this conspiracy...it would sully the entire Republican party, right? that would jeopardize future elected conservatives, right? The reality is that that will probably never be the case...but it is important to question it.

what's wrong with an argument based on logic?

and yes, let's go Rangers. Even tho we pissed away our second and third lines.

[we are cured]

true that. well said. I shoulda clearly read what you said, that was my mistake. I think that the importance of debating this issue is because it helps give rise to more questions which is worth looking into. Without debate, people generally ignore the issue. Yes I think it's retarded when people say "the gov't did it, that's all" and people reply with "no they didn't, ur gay"...so we agree on that I think...but like you said it's important to look into the shit.

I shouldn't draw conclusions about you so quickly. That's wrong. I know there's no changing already elected officials but we know that many elected officials can have an influence on future elected officials...hypothetically, if there was some tiny bit of truth in all of this conspiracy...it would sully the entire Republican party, right? that would jeopardize future elected conservatives, right? The reality is that that will probably never be the case...but it is important to question it.

what's wrong with an argument based on logic?

and yes, let's go Rangers. Even tho we pissed away our second and third lines.

Yeah I mean, as the public in a democracy, we have to act on incomplete information. That's why even though almost 70% of the country disapproves of the job Bush is doing right now, we still need at least 20-30 years to properly analyze his term. And even then, if this whole 9/11 conspiracy did go down, we'd still have to wait 50 years (if at all) to find out what happened. So we, the public, basically never know what is happening in the present or recent past.

I wrote 'i don't form arguments based on anything but logic'...so nothing.

I'm not worried about this season...Sykora can go choke in the playoffs for Edmonton.

Straka-Nylander-Jagr
Shanahan-Cullen-Prucha
Hossa-Betts-Ward (great defensive line)
Orr-Ortmeyer (if he can play)-Hollweg-Adam Hall

that's w/o any of the young guys, at least one of which will probably make the team.

Tyutin-Malik
Ward-Rozsival
Rachnunek-Kasparaitis
Ozolinsh (get out of here)
Marc Staal?

Defense is a little suspect...if Sather hadn't destroyed any relationship between the Rangers and Leetch, we would probably get him back for 22 min a game.

[tokilltheking]

don't believe anything you read ever. everything's fucked. we'll all be dead soon.

I don't believe you...

[TheTrooth]

who gives a shit. no matter if the government planned it or not, it still happened and we cant go back and fix it. so quit bitching

[FrankMareno]

hahahah an online blog, someone's opinion. Punkvoter.com

THESE ARE ALL WEBSITES THAT SAY THERE WAS A CONSPIRACY MORON. I MEAN READ THINGS FROM THE OTHER SIDE

i still meant >everything< meaning read, what you want,

believe what you want to believe, im not a moron because i read to much into things and wish to seek only the truth.

[justinevans]

i still meant >everything< meaning read, what you want,

believe what you want to believe, im not a moron because i read to much into things and wish to seek only the truth.

yes, but you seem to walk into it with a bias and to biased websites.

[a speedo model]

people are such idiots.

[Skacialist]

assassinate the president

[Freud]

assassinate the president
i will laugh my ass off when the feds show up at your house

[Korematsu]

Yay More Propoganda

[sloppysoothsaye]

www.mind-deprogramming.com

has a great jukebox with 50+ full length videos for free
I've watched about half, and my mind transmutated 18 times over and over


for the better.



To those who don't believe 9/11 was an inside job.
I understand that belief.
who wants to believe that we the population are the enemy in the war on terror.

the war on terror = FEAR and CONTROL.

it's time to help wake each other up.

[Broken Parachute]

assassinate the president
Communist.

No matter what your political views are, you don't say something like that.

[Korematsu]

im against all communism,all exept when Ho chi minh had control of Vietnam. uncle ho was awesome economic wise and an all around good leader

[punklet2101]

I always find it funny how people who distrust the government so much don't really worry about if anti-government sources are telling the truth or can actually back up their claims.

yeah. interesting.

[a speedo model]

assassinate the president
are you a fucking idiot?

[selftitled85]

im the government and all you anti-american pigs are under arrest.


lol! gtfo!

[ClapClapSnap]

im the government and all you anti-american pigs are under arrest.


lol! gtfo!
Hahaha I lol'ed. That's spectacular.

[xvszero]

To those who don't believe 9/11 was an inside job.
I understand that belief.
who wants to believe that we the population are the enemy in the war on terror.

No see many of us believe it wasn't an inside job not because we are scared to accept that the government could be behind it but that all conspiracy theories aside THE EVIDENCE POINTS TO IT BEING ISLAMIC TERRORISTS.

Oh, and by the way... if we are the "enemy" in the war on terror who are the good guys? The terrorists?

[selftitled85]

americans have seen way too much tv and cannot pick the truth from fiction anymore.

there is so much evidence that points to terrorists and not our government.

there was a document that someone with actual knowledge posted on loose change. it takes every point that was made in loose change and shows the flaws in it. it was incredible how in depth it was and how stupid loose change actually is. i should try and find it again.

[Korematsu]

americans have seen way too much tv and cannot pick the truth from fiction anymore.

there is so much evidence that points to terrorists and not our government.

there was a document that someone with actual knowledge posted on loose change. it takes every point that was made in loose change and shows the flaws in it. it was incredible how in depth it was and how stupid loose change actually is. i should try and find it again.

that you should and your avvy is the fuckin shit

[richter915]

ya I really would like to see those documents. The website I was using started to really annoy men...when loose change brought up some points worth disproving that the site couldn't...it just tried to make the video look dumb and anti-american...and that shit is just annoying.

[Freud]

americans have seen way too much tv and cannot pick the truth from fiction anymore.

there is so much evidence that points to terrorists and not our government.

there was a document that someone with actual knowledge posted on loose change. it takes every point that was made in loose change and shows the flaws in it. it was incredible how in depth it was and how stupid loose change actually is. i should try and find it again.
exactly. link to the document? id love to show it every fucking moron who worships loose change as the truth.

[punklet2101]

americans have seen way too much tv and cannot pick the truth from fiction anymore.


hm true story

[richter915]

exactly. link to the document? id love to show it every fucking moron who worships loose change as the truth.
I feel that any person who feels that either side is absolutely truth should reconsider shit. I commend loose change for questioning such a touchy subject...and well done at certain times.

[selftitled85]

i actually found it on ap. i dont remember when....it was a while ago. i think april maybe?

[selftitled85]

ok here it is...

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/911_loose_change_2_guide_1.doc

[selftitled85]

ok here it is...

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/911_loose_change_2_guide_1.doc

the section on the wtc collapse and wtc 7 is great. also the in depth analysis of where the plane hit the pentagon and why the damage is the way it is is also wonderful. its real long so beware.

[richter915]

the section on the wtc collapse and wtc 7 is great. also the in depth analysis of where the plane hit the pentagon and why the damage is the way it is is also wonderful. its real long so beware.
dude...you shoulda looked at the link I posted earlier...it's the website for that document lol.

http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html

again, there are definitely parts of it that are credible and it's a good idea to read this while watching the video cause it answered questions I came up with while watching. I have the same problem with this document tho that I did with the video in that at certain points it chooses to attack the credibility of the video instead of doing what it should which is disprove claims. There're also many points the guy brings up which he doesn't back up with sources...now I need a guide for the guide on loose change lol.