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sloppysoothsaye
08/24/06, 05:24 PM
to all you apathetic hipsters
to all those pop culture collectors
to all those who pattern their hair, internet pictures, and musical taste to the major trends of the music industry.

I'm not ever going to judge you.
but I will tell you that you are hurting and miserable for a REAL reason.

because you choose it.

I hope to generate a pseudo intellectual discourse with you absolute punksters.


Afterall. I'm an original absolute punkster myself.

I'm Joshua Chambers. My band SloppYMeateaters started as a pop punk band 7 years ago and has evolved into the weird bizarre folk rock revolutionaries we are today.

I don't believe in One liner conversations. So strap on your attention span

now. Smoke a bowl, take a drink of whiskey (or sweet tea) and read this article I wrote for a local paper here in Georgia. This is the result of 4 years of research into TRUTH.

Everything I claim can be looked up by yourself.
I'm here to help myself and others LIBERATE our CONSCIOUSNESS from the control of the business, political, and religious SLAVE MASTERS of the world.

ps - love to jason for sticking with this for so many years.


THE WAR ON THE HUMAN PYSCHE:

9/11 was an inside job to psychologically traumatize the American public into an ever deeper cavern of passive obedient consumerism in order to allow the ELITE to pursue its colonial conquests of the Middle East and beyond.


The three WTC buildings were brought down, not by fire or explosions from the planes, but by incendiary explosions from INSIDE the building much in the way buildings are "pulled" down in a controlled demolition. The public has been led to believe that fifteen rogue terrorists with paper cutters over took three major aircrafts and exercised military precision to hit a majority of their targets. Mountain dwelling terrorists could not have had NORAD (North American Air Defense) stand down while the attacks took place. In fact, NORAD and the Pentagon were conducting war game exercises consisting of planes being hijacked and crashed into buildings that very morning.


We are controlled through fear. The elite control our very perception of reality through television, movies, pop culture, religious dogmas, and political/ economical divisions. I have spent the last four years of my life searching for TRUTH in every aspect of my being. Millions of people are waking up to the FACT that 9/11 is but one piece in the overall big picture of many planned psychological operations perpetuated on the people by the shadow powerful elite ruling class.


As our little town of Rome blooms into another predictably sanitized corporate shopping mall, as people are consumed with trite and trivial American Idol garbage, as Methamphetamines and pain pills deject and cripple the displaced working class communities, as gas prices rape consumers, as systematic food, water, and air pollution is accelerated, , as the micro chipped population evolves from absurd conspiracy theory to CNN headline news, as our government wages multiple wars hidden behind Orwellian newspeak propaganda, as FEAR rattles the collective consciousness into submission, how will you respond?


A one world government, one world cashless currency, one world army, and one world religion is the ultimate goal of the globalists in control. Did you know that we are already two years into slowly dismantling the borders with Canada and Mexico to form a North American Union (www.spp.gov)? Did you know the Dollar will soon be replaced by the "AMERO?


Is there any doubt as to why our society is obsessed with celebrity gossip and a billion dollar industry of blockbuster fantasies? Is it just coincidence that all major youth musical movements of the day advocate MISERY and ANGER over LOVE and PEACE? Is it just a coincidence that the military of the rich white aristocracy brainwash poor children to go into foreign lands to kill other poor people in the guise of liberty? Did you know that Haliburton has ALREADY built many domestic concentration camps publicaly stated to detain homeland dissenters? Did you know our government has had the ability to manipulate the weather for decades? Do you know what a chemtrail is? Do you REALLY know what the Patriot Act 1 and 2 consist of? If you read it, you will be shocked. Did you know that Donald Rumsfield is the person behind Aspartame in food products? Aspartame is an intellect suppressing neuro-toxin found in soda among many other items. Did you know that in the early 80's Donald Rumsfield sold Iraq biological and chemical weapons? Did you know during this same time period, Rumsfield jump started North Koreas nuclear ambitions? Once you understand the BIG picture you will see how all of these seemingly unrelated issues are part of the WHOLE.


I challenge each of you to look this up yourself and let your intuitive rationalizing mind make your own subjective conclusion, and as you wake up along with the millions of others, then I challenge you to hwake up your family, friends and community. As horrible as all of this seems, it is only successful with the continuity of our apathy and ignorance. The war on terror is rhetoric that translates to FEAR and CONTROL of the human psyche. We must unplug our beautiful dynamic human consciousness from their very sophisticated methods of psychological control. It is the only way to reclaim our infinity. I challenge you to inform yourself. I challenge you to free your mind!! Only love can conquer fear.


"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act " George Orwell.

Recommended sights:
www.911truth.org
www.infowars.com
www.mind-deprogramming.com
www.st911.com

6 of the 40 reasons to doubt the official 9/11 story taken from www.911truth.org

Disposing of the Crime Scene
The rapid and illegal scrapping of the WTC ruins at Ground Zero disposed of almost all of the structural steel indispensable to any investigation of the collapse mechanics

The Legal Catch-22
a. Hush Money - Accepting victims' compensation barred September 11th families from pursuing discovery through litigation.
b. Judge Hallerstein - Those who refused compensation to pursue litigation and discovery had their cases consolidated under the same judge (and as a rule dismissed).


The Great Game"
The Afghanistan invasion was ready for Bush's go-ahead on September 9, 2001, with US and UK force deployments to the region already in place or underway. This followed the failure earlier that year of backdoor diplomacy with the Taliban (including payments of $125 million in US government aid to Afghanistan), in an attempt to secure a unity government for that country as a prerequisite to a Central Asian pipeline deal.

The Need for a "New Pearl Harbor"
Principals in US foreign policy under the current Bush administration (including Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle and others) have been instrumental in developing long-running plans for worldwide military hegemony, including an invasion of the Middle East, dating back to the Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr. administrations. They reiterated these plans in the late 1990s as members of the "Project for a New American Century," and stated a clear intent to invade Iraq for the purpose of "regime change." After 9/11, they lost no time in their attempt to tie Iraq to the attacks.

Attacking the Constitution
a. The USA PATRIOT Act was written before 9/11, Homeland Security and the "Shadow Government" were developed long before 9/11, and plans for rounding up dissidents as a means for suppressing civil disturbance have been in the works for decades.
b. 9/11 was used as the pretext to create a new, extra-constitutional executive authority to declare anyone an "enemy combatant" (including American citizens), to detain persons indefinitely without habeas corpus, and to "render" such persons to secret prisons where torture is practiced.

Plundered Trillions?
On September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld announced a "war on waste" after an internal audit found that the Pentagon was "missing" 2.3 trillion dollars in unaccounted assets. On September 11th, this was as good as forgotten

MotionIsntMeaning
08/24/06, 06:05 PM
Someone's been watching the "Loose Change" video too much.....


I think you give the American government too much credit. Yes, they are power-hungry and yes they use fear to exlpoit that public for their own gain, but this is nothing new. The one sure thing about empires is that they will always fall, and soon enough America will not be the super-power of the world. The Bush government has done some pretty bad things but the idea that they could plan something as detailed as 9/11 and then keep it so well hidden is laughable. They are not that clever. Conspiracy theories are fun and all but the reality is that even if the government did plan 9/11, not enough people care to challenge what the government tells them. Apathy is the curse of our generation.

catscradle
08/24/06, 06:14 PM
you are insane.

Broken Parachute
08/24/06, 07:34 PM
Someone's been watching the "Loose Change" video too much.....


I think you give the American government too much credit. Yes, they are power-hungry and yes they use fear to exlpoit that public for their own gain, but this is nothing new. The one sure thing about empires is that they will always fall, and soon enough America will not be the super-power of the world. The Bush government has done some pretty bad things but the idea that they could plan something as detailed as 9/11 and then keep it so well hidden is laughable. They are not that clever. Conspiracy theories are fun and all but the reality is that even if the government did plan 9/11, not enough people care to challenge what the government tells them. Apathy is the curse of our generation.
hahaha that was my thought too

boysdontcry17
08/24/06, 08:10 PM
we are fighting an spiritual war
good article man

YourMusicSucks
08/24/06, 09:06 PM
Lyke omgz and george bush is the one who gave cute is what we aim for 500,000$ to start a band, so that their angst-ridden pseudo-clever lyrics could brainwash the youth of ap.net into submissively shedding tears while the patriot acts strip away our civil liberties.

cal1082
08/24/06, 09:45 PM
i'm beginning to think you should have to take a course to be allowed to use the internet for all online resources in general

sloppysoothsaye
08/24/06, 10:45 PM
kosmo. You are right about apathy and empires falling. 100%

You think the american government with its cia,fbi,nsa, and military (billions, trillions of dollars) can't conduct a staged terror attack like 9/11 but 15 rogue suicide bombers armed with paper cutters could? It's illogical. The REAL motive is economics. POWERFUL economics and population reduction. You can prove this for yourself if you read up on the G8. But most probably won't. They'll just check their myspace, stick the needle of popculture fluids into their corroding souls and walk straight into a fucking orwellian nightmare.


catscradle - thanks. but I prefer UNsane. If you think these ideas are crazy then research and find that Kurt Vonnegut (assuming that's what the cats cradle reference is) believes the same thing.

broken - you should articulate your own thoughts, and not just cut and paste someone elses and saying me too. It's beneath your potential. <3


boysdontcry - a spiritual war is VERY VERY true. But it's not christian vs muslim, it's not west vs east it is RICH vs POOR. Elite Vs the mass sheeple.

yourmusicisnotmypreference: lyke, omgz. Are you speaking some dead language? There is a connection to why trite misery promoting musical trends overwhelm the youth generation after generation but I don't think bush pulls any of those strings. In fact I agree with Noam Chomksy that bush is a ceremonial figurehead and nothing more. He doesn't write complicated policy, he doesn't even write his own speeches. He's an illusory figurehead.

boysdontcry17
08/24/06, 11:20 PM
Someone's been watching the "Loose Change" video too much.....


I think you give the American government too much credit. Yes, they are power-hungry and yes they use fear to exlpoit that public for their own gain, but this is nothing new. The one sure thing about empires is that they will always fall, and soon enough America will not be the super-power of the world. The Bush government has done some pretty bad things but the idea that they could plan something as detailed as 9/11 and then keep it so well hidden is laughable. They are not that clever. Conspiracy theories are fun and all but the reality is that even if the government did plan 9/11, not enough people care to challenge what the government tells them. Apathy is the curse of our generation.

this is not true

a speedo model
08/25/06, 08:05 AM
hahaha

catscradle
08/25/06, 01:18 PM
kosmo. You are right about apathy and empires falling. 100%

You think the american government with its cia,fbi,nsa, and military (billions, trillions of dollars) can't conduct a staged terror attack like 9/11 but 15 rogue suicide bombers armed with paper cutters could? It's illogical. The REAL motive is economics. POWERFUL economics and population reduction. You can prove this for yourself if you read up on the G8. But most probably won't. They'll just check their myspace, stick the needle of popculture fluids into their corroding souls and walk straight into a fucking orwellian nightmare.


catscradle - thanks. but I prefer UNsane. If you think these ideas are crazy then research and find that Kurt Vonnegut (assuming that's what the cats cradle reference is) believes the same thing.

broken - you should articulate your own thoughts, and not just cut and paste someone elses and saying me too. It's beneath your potential. <3


boysdontcry - a spiritual war is VERY VERY true. But it's not christian vs muslim, it's not west vs east it is RICH vs POOR. Elite Vs the mass sheeple.

yourmusicisnotmypreference: lyke, omgz. Are you speaking some dead language? There is a connection to why trite misery promoting musical trends overwhelm the youth generation after generation but I don't think bush pulls any of those strings. In fact I agree with Noam Chomksy that bush is a ceremonial figurehead and nothing more. He doesn't write complicated policy, he doesn't even write his own speeches. He's an illusory figurehead.

Believe me when i say i have done my fair share of research. You can look through my posts and search other threads on this topic and see that i have provided a great deal of websites and sources that disprove a large deal of the 9/11 conspiracy claims. I just feel that some of your claims are outlandish in the most extreme sense. I just think you are giving the govt much more credit than it deserves and providing claims that would seem impossible for an administration as new as the bush administration at the time to plan and dream up such an plot. I just think it's illogical and there are other means that the govt would take to pursue ambitions like this, if that is what the govts ambitions truly are.


Oh, and just b/c kurt vonnegut is one of my favorite authors doesn't mean i necessarily agrre with everything he says and believes, hence the reason why i am not a huge fan of a man without a country.

justinevans
08/25/06, 10:12 PM
Disposing of the Crime Scene
The rapid and illegal scrapping of the WTC ruins at Ground Zero disposed of almost all of the structural steel indispensable to any investigation of the collapse mechanics

My dad worked for Chubb Insurance -- one of the insurers of the WTC. My dad flew over groundzero twice. 2 days and a week after. There was plenty "material" left there. Also, Chubb has many of the videos from inside the trade center. I doubt Chubb was willing to take a 100+ billion hit to their company and be "in on it."

xvszero
08/25/06, 10:29 PM
You think the american government with its cia,fbi,nsa, and military (billions, trillions of dollars) can't conduct a staged terror attack like 9/11 but 15 rogue suicide bombers armed with paper cutters could? It's illogical. The REAL motive is economics. POWERFUL economics and population reduction. You can prove this for yourself if you read up on the G8. But most probably won't. They'll just check their myspace, stick the needle of popculture fluids into their corroding souls and walk straight into a fucking orwellian nightmare.


Certainly they could conduct one.

But what you are claiming is a bit different. You are claiming they could conduct one but then pull the wool over the public's eyes with a bunch of scapegoats, which all in all wouldn't even be a terrible plan except that everything was way too public to actually get away with it.

They found people willing to hijack planes and crash them into buildings just so they could ignite bombs in those buildings (that they somehow snuck in even though the buildings are occupied nearly constantly) and then had thousands of volunteers help clean up the aftermath without anyone ever noticing anything wrong besides a few people on conspiracy theory sites that find paper walls to attack every time anything happens.

And then there was another plane that they had hijacked just to... shoot it down with missiles. Except that other conspiracy theorists claim the plane landed in Pennsylvania or something so they shot something else down with missiles.

And then they shot a missile at the Pentagon, but hijacked a plane and what... crashed it in the middle of the ocean just so they could tell people a plane hit the Pentagon which, by the way, hundreds of bystanders saw a plane hit the Pentagon.

Honest question... are you truly interested in the TRUTH or are you letting your distrust of the government blind you?

HeyCoffeeEyes
08/26/06, 07:08 PM
Wait, are you REALLY bringing up chemtrails again? I can only hope your liberatory zeal allows you to finally tell us all the truth about Roswell.

The sad thing is, a lot of what you say, especially about passivity, consumerism, and militarism is really true, but when you anchor it to these ridiculous conspiracy theories you just turn people off.

LostSymphonies
08/26/06, 09:36 PM
this gave me a headache, how bout you stop believing everything you read on the internet and stop spreading your ridiculous conspiracy theories

YourMusicSucks
08/28/06, 12:54 PM
yourmusicisnotmypreference: lyke, omgz. Are you speaking some dead language? There is a connection to why trite misery promoting musical trends overwhelm the youth generation after generation but I don't think bush pulls any of those strings. In fact I agree with Noam Chomksy that bush is a ceremonial figurehead and nothing more. He doesn't write complicated policy, he doesn't even write his own speeches. He's an illusory figurehead.

Dude, you realize I was kidding. right?

sloppysoothsaye
08/29/06, 02:14 AM
lost symphonies - You should drink a glass of water, and I will not STOP in fact I will shout a little louder this time...AND ms tangerine, i believe your negativity is ridiculous and gives me a headache.

CoffeeEyes. You too with the passive belly punch. Your patronizing connection of roswell and chemtrails is clumsy and sadly researched. I'll make it easy for you GOogle: Alan Watts, CHemtrails, Prozac, Valium.

XvsZero, paris, and cats (to whom I respect as intelligent beings, and whos skeptism is beautiful and refeshing) I recommend listening to the tape recorded message of Richard Andrew Grove. This takes an intelligent mind to grasp, this is a real life John Galt, V for Vendetta. There's two parts to the 9/11 song and dance. The soul and the body. The body are the details of the events of the day(planes taking off, crashing, pentagon missle this, norad standing down that etc) and the soul is the gateway to understanding who pushed the first domino. (big big money and NOT middle east terrorists) this isn't loose change / alex jones outer surface stuff -- He explains WHO PUSHED THE FIRST DOMINO.

Forgive my domino metaphor, it's late .....

LISTEN to this and then let's start talking. You can find the taped message at www.mind-deprograming.com (http://www.mind-deprograming.com) click on the last folder #20 exclusive talk radio..... and it will be the second video.

much love!!!!!

ps - the new woody allen isn't worth the $10 bucks.

HeyCoffeeEyes
08/29/06, 02:14 PM
C'mon, dude - everything you need to know about chem trails you can read here: http://www.goodsky.homestead.com/files/brendt1.html. The evidence just is not there. But more importantly, why hitch your argument to such a contested issue? If you want to prove that the government has no qualms about fucking with it's population, why not bring up the Tuskeegee Experiment? Everyone knows that actually happened. Or what about the use of depleted uranium in the Gulf? There are plenty of instances of the government exploiting innocent people for its own purposes and then covering it up. You don't need to turn to crackpots to prove it.