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vivatoto56
04/23/10, 03:16 PM
Lately we've seen a slew of films that have been considered by critics and box office alike to be major hits. Now that films are being filmed specifically for 3-D (This thread has nothing to do with 2-D conversions IE Clash of the Titans) it almost seems like the special effects and animation are the major thing being judged on whether or not it's a good movie.

And now films are even replacing their original titles with 3-D, furthering the idea that eventually that will become the most important aspect of film making in the future. The examples I have for you all probably would be awful anyway (Resident Evil 4 - Resident Evil 3D, and Saw 7 - Saw 3D) it's not like we're seeing Crazy Heart 3D or Up in the Air 3D, but nonetheless it will be interesting to see how far this goes.

My guess is, good filmmakers will continue to make good films if not better films despite 3D technology, but they will probably be few and far between. I suppose that will make them that much better though.

brandon_260
04/23/10, 03:26 PM
I'm really not gonna vote, because there are pros. and cons. on each side so I really can't find a side yet

Neo Cassady
04/23/10, 03:27 PM
I see no point in going to the theatre now unless a movie is in 3D. I have a large HDTV and Netflix. :shrug:

That said, I hope they incorporate it into good movies rather than making more where the 3D is the only selling point.

vivatoto56
04/23/10, 03:38 PM
I see no point in going to the theatre now unless a movie is in 3D. I have a large HDTV and Netflix. :shrug:

That said, I hope they incorporate it into good movies rather than making more where the 3D is the only selling point.

That's what I'm thinking too but 3D really has absolutely no appeal to me. I'd rather 100 percent of the production go into the quality of the film itself.

mjr20
04/23/10, 03:51 PM
Quality of the film is way more important, but 3d can add to the experience, like in Avatar. I think adding "3D" at the end of a movie title is lame though.

vivatoto56
04/23/10, 04:00 PM
Quality of the film is way more important, but 3d can add to the experience, like in Avatar. I think adding "3D" at the end of a movie title is lame though.

Agreed (Although I didn't see Avatar). The problem is Hollywood has a way of exploiting good ideas.

aerofan11
04/23/10, 04:33 PM
The only thing I really hate about 3D is the price increase. £2 (Usually £7) more for a 3D film, why?
I also hate it when a film goes over the top with the 3D effects.

heyjoshua
04/23/10, 05:37 PM
I hate movies in 3D, the main reason studios are using it now a days is to make more money.

jwicklun
04/23/10, 06:03 PM
I don't hate it, I just feel that it is useless. Its making movies more money, but not really ruining them.

phillycheese37
04/23/10, 06:28 PM
Avatar in 3D was amazing. Just because of this I voted no.

Stavie Steelo
04/23/10, 07:54 PM
Not a fan of 3-D movies myself.

xapplexpiex
04/23/10, 08:00 PM
I don't get the 3-D hate. If it's too expensive, then it's ussually playing in 2-D also. I love 3-D...

Tristan Needler
04/23/10, 10:07 PM
IS it ruining it? No. Is it improving it? Probably not.

vivatoto56
04/23/10, 10:26 PM
I don't get the 3-D hate. If it's too expensive, then it's ussually playing in 2-D also. I love 3-D...

I'm not saying its ruining the movie experience as to whether or not its in 3D. I'm just saying if filmmakers start spending all their time working on the 3D aspect, the story and overall quality of the movie is going to suffer.

The usage of 3D in the title for upcoming movies just further stirs this fear.

kcpunk
04/23/10, 10:40 PM
i think people in the future and laugh at "those weird old people wearing those creepy glasses during their movies" lol

xapplexpiex
04/24/10, 05:02 AM
I'm not saying its ruining the movie experience as to whether or not its in 3D. I'm just saying if filmmakers start spending all their time working on the 3D aspect, the story and overall quality of the movie is going to suffer.

The usage of 3D in the title for upcoming movies just further stirs this fear.
Good point.
I also don't like how they add 3-D to movies that don't seem like would need it. I can see adding 3-D to action movies, or those nature documentaries. But I saw a trailer for one of those Step Up dance movies...and it's in 3-D. Kind of unnecessary.

Jaimehere
04/24/10, 05:15 AM
yes it is, leave the 3d with porn (crosses fingers!)

HometownHero
04/24/10, 10:32 AM
I don't really like it. Alice In Wonderland, was not only a terrible movie, but was made worse by the weak effects. Saw a couple others to the same thing. Its just annoying

Yellowcard2006
04/24/10, 10:36 AM
It's not ruining it.

Protested Hero
04/24/10, 11:57 AM
If they switch over to showing ONLY 3-D showings, then yes. As of now, most films aren't worth the extra $3-$5 for the 3D (Avatar and Up being the only two that I really enjoyed).

EvilZeppelin
04/24/10, 07:32 PM
Mixed feelings.

Mattylikesfilms
04/24/10, 08:20 PM
It is ruining it. FUCK 3D! Such a horrible horrible lame FAD.

SuNDaYSTaR
04/24/10, 10:04 PM
Avatar in 3D was amazing. Just because of this I voted no.You think? I've seen it in 2D the first time and I actually preferred it that way.

notoaststereo
04/25/10, 09:29 AM
i don't think most people expect Resident Evil or Saw to be all that great even if the 3D technology didn't exist. i don't think it's ruining anything because a lot of the blockbuster type movies it's being used on are weak movies to begin with.

that being said it has been effective on films like Avatar or How To Train Your Dragon. although neither of them are terribly original plotwise they were still good films that used the technology as an enhancement on the viewing experience rather than a gimmick or a quick 3D conversion after thought.

i think in the future we're going to see more serious movies being made in the 3D format, but we'll never lose regular film.

Christrings
04/25/10, 01:25 PM
I don't think it makes much difference, a good movie will still be good in a 3D and a bad one will still be bad.

batmannj
04/25/10, 02:54 PM
I guess it depends on how you define ruining. Profit wise, this new 3D trend is like an ATM for film companies and they are rolling in some serious cash. If you mean on quality, I assume that some films that are rushed out to get the 3D stamps, maybe it's ruining those films, but as an overall industry I don't think it's ruining it at all.

vivatoto56
04/25/10, 04:46 PM
I guess it depends on how you define ruining. Profit wise, this new 3D trend is like an ATM for film companies and they are rolling in some serious cash. If you mean on quality, I assume that some films that are rushed out to get the 3D stamps, maybe it's ruining those films, but as an overall industry I don't think it's ruining it at all.

I was thinking of quality and art. No one could argue can argue that it's not making them more money.

vivatoto56
04/25/10, 04:48 PM
i don't think most people expect Resident Evil or Saw to be all that great even if the 3D technology didn't exist. i don't think it's ruining anything because a lot of the blockbuster type movies it's being used on are weak movies to begin with.

that being said it has been effective on films like Avatar or How To Train Your Dragon. although neither of them are terribly original plotwise they were still good films that used the technology as an enhancement on the viewing experience rather than a gimmick or a quick 3D conversion after thought.

i think in the future we're going to see more serious movies being made in the 3D format, but we'll never lose regular film.

Good point and I can see by your avatar you know what you're talking about. I loved that movie and I feel like no one really talks about it. But yeah in my post I mentioned that Resident Evil and Saw weren't great examples. I'm speaking more of the future and if this becomes a trend.

Erik the Orange
04/25/10, 04:54 PM
Yes because now producers are sacrificing storylines for graphics

Case in point- Avatar=Pocahantas in Space

notoaststereo
04/25/10, 05:35 PM
Good point and I can see by your avatar you know what you're talking about. I loved that movie and I feel like no one really talks about it. But yeah in my post I mentioned that Resident Evil and Saw weren't great examples. I'm speaking more of the future and if this becomes a trend.

i love a serious man. next to moon it was my favorite film of last year.

i honestly think it can't harm the film. as long as they don't discontinue 2D film and 2D versions of 3D films there really is not a reason to complain about it, in my opinion. just don't go see it in 3D.

it'll be nice to see critically acclaimed directors take on serious 3D projects to see what they can do with it.

vivatoto56
04/25/10, 05:50 PM
i love a serious man. next to moon it was my favorite film of last year.

i honestly think it can't harm the film. as long as they don't discontinue 2D film and 2D versions of 3D films there really is not a reason to complain about it, in my opinion. just don't go see it in 3D.

it'll be nice to see critically acclaimed directors take on serious 3D projects to see what they can do with it.

But there is a reason to complain about it. I'm not saying watching it is the problem, its not at all, it's a great experience. I'm just assuming the worst of the film industry and saying that if 3D does become the most important aspect in a movie than the movie could suffer. If a movie is depending on things popping out and looking cool, the plot could possibly be impaired.

I'm not saying it's happening at this exact moment, I'm just sort of playing the devil's advocate and saying that it's possible.

If a movie's plot isn't made to its full potential and I just decide to see it in 2D instead of 3D that wouldn't change the fact it's a bad movie to me, and I believe that to be worthy reason to "complain" about it.

I guess I worded it wrong, its not the 3D I believe could ruin films, its the power it has to transform a shit movie into box office gold.

roughroads
04/25/10, 08:40 PM
it was a cool novelty but im sick of it already.

notoaststereo
04/25/10, 09:34 PM
But there is a reason to complain about it. I'm not saying watching it is the problem, its not at all, it's a great experience. I'm just assuming the worst of the film industry and saying that if 3D does become the most important aspect in a movie than the movie could suffer. If a movie is depending on things popping out and looking cool, the plot could possibly be impaired.

I'm not saying it's happening at this exact moment, I'm just sort of playing the devil's advocate and saying that it's possible.

If a movie's plot isn't made to its full potential and I just decide to see it in 2D instead of 3D that wouldn't change the fact it's a bad movie to me, and I believe that to be worthy reason to "complain" about it.

I guess I worded it wrong, its not the 3D I believe could ruin films, its the power it has to transform a shit movie into box office gold.

i still somewhat disagree. i definitely understand your point, where studios think it's more important to make movies 3D to make money as opposed to good story development and overall plot/characterization, but i think either way we're always going to have garbage moneymakers that dominate the box office, with or without 3D. even without 3D studios push bad summer blockbusters with incoherent plots strictly as moneymakers. i think its going to stay the same just with 3D making them more money for the same bad films they would have made regardless.

that being said i think films that are converted to 3D after the fact are really dumb, thoughtless and unnecessary. right now, for the most part, it is very gimmicky. however, i think films in the future, intended to be shot in 3D, have the potential to open up the door to a new viewer experiences without sacrificing the heart of the film.

Toothache
04/25/10, 10:13 PM
hell yeah it is. im tired of seeing a trailer that looks good but UHP! it's in 3D. well now i cant see it because 3D is so damn tacky and gimmicky that it ruins any movie it touches.

Fringe
04/26/10, 12:20 AM
3D certainly makes movies a lot more fun. Gives me a reason not to watch it at home or on my computer.

zachff
04/26/10, 09:58 AM
I hate 3D

In fact I use an augmented reality program to give me a live stream of whatever's happening in front of me, then photoshop it to 2D.

Ari Christos
04/26/10, 01:49 PM
It's not ruining it, it's just an annoying trend. It'd be like saying auto-tune is ruining music (when used as an effect).

notoaststereo
04/26/10, 05:27 PM
I hate 3D

In fact I use an augmented reality program to give me a live stream of whatever's happening in front of me, then photoshop it to 2D.

:appl:

Indoor Living
04/26/10, 05:36 PM
I hate 3D. I thought I could beat the system. I went to a movie in Real-D 3D, and kept the glasses. Thought, 'Hey, Cody, stick it to the man. Save two or three bucks everytime, that'll add up.' Nope. Movie theaters don't allow it. Fuck.

It doesn't help at all. Besides Avatar, I've never seen a movie in 3D and thought, 'Wow, this is way better.' Especially Alice In Wonderland. Nothing jumped out at me, nothing left me amazed. I'm a little jaded, I think, but whatever. It annoys me, haha.

spansen
04/26/10, 10:38 PM
it makes it cool sometimes.. but, all in all, it's entirely unnecessary.
the 3d rides/films at amusement parks, though, where the 3d comes out right to your face, the chairs move, and there's air blowing on your ankles with sfx and junk to mimic different situations.. those are good-- but, cinema is unlikely to ever take it that far.

Hay
04/27/10, 08:22 PM
3D is ruining films for me because now i can't watch a harmless movie about training dragons without flinching and thinking it's gonna eat me

ryanh12
04/27/10, 08:28 PM
3D looks dumb, anything in the foreground with a decent lens and out of focus will just look like a blob popping out at your eyes in 3D! a quote that I like for the 3D industry is "If you can't do it well, MAKE IT 3D!" The only thing I accept in 3D is animated films.

fflash
04/28/10, 06:13 AM
IS it ruining it? No. Is it improving it? Probably not.

This.

x1onexwo1fx
04/28/10, 07:46 AM
it's getting a little annoying, but if movies as good as kick-ass are still coming out, then no, it's not ruining the film industry. there's just as much crap to wade through as before except some are more easily spotted. though i'm sure there are some 3-d movies that are genuinely good. i haven't seen how to train your dragon, but the ratings have been swell.

SLoT
04/28/10, 09:13 AM
I don't think it's ruining the film industry, it's getting more people out of their house to watch movies in theatres I would guess, but I don't dig converting 2-D to 3-D. Lame. Also, I prefer animated movies in 3-D much more.

Loch_Doun
04/28/10, 06:19 PM
i think people in the future and laugh at "those weird old people wearing those creepy glasses during their movies" lol

Actually, 3D movies were really popular in the 50s and the 80s, so it's not like this is a new technology or anything. It's been around for years, it's just kinda making a retro-fad comeback as of late...

Echo Park
04/29/10, 08:23 AM
past 2 years there haven't been any good movies. Doesn't matter if it's 3D or not

VIVALAMATT
04/29/10, 02:33 PM
It's not "aye" or "nay", it's "yea" or "nay".

Yea being pronounced "yae" of course

vivatoto56
04/29/10, 04:19 PM
It's not "aye" or "nay", it's "yea" or "nay".

Yea being pronounced "yae" of course

Haha yeah but since it's my poll I thought I would have fun with it.

I was hoping no one would really delve into it.

I was more thinking when people say "The Aye's have it" I think I was watching King of the Hill at the time and they made mention to it.

vivatoto56
04/29/10, 04:20 PM
past 2 years there haven't been any good movies. Doesn't matter if it's 3D or not

There hasn't been one good movie?

Up in the Air? Crazy Heart?

Echo Park
04/29/10, 06:45 PM
There hasn't been one good movie?

Up in the Air? Crazy Heart?
edit

there hasn't been one good blockbuster movie in 2 years...minus Inglorious Basterds

vivatoto56
04/29/10, 07:19 PM
edit

there hasn't been one good blockbuster movie in 2 years...minus Inglorious Basterds

Haha fair enough. I wasn't sure if you really hated every movie or were generalizing (which makes sense).

I watched Crazy Heart for the second time today and I remember thinking the whole time "what could anyone dislike about this movie."

etheritcher
04/30/10, 07:52 PM
3D makes me nauseous so I won't see them. Plus, most of the movies coming out in 3D are absolute shit except for their aesthetics.

Auals
05/02/10, 07:19 AM
3D makes me nauseous so I won't see them. Plus, most of the movies coming out in 3D are absolute shit except for their aesthetics.

They don't quite make me nauseous but it really strains my eyes. I wear glasses normally and so it may just be something that affects me because of that, but I don't know.

And I don't think it's ruining the film industry, I just think that like everything that comes out that's new and exciting it's going to be used and abused till no one cares anymore and then it's only going to be used sparingly, or as an actual artistic idea for reasons that the director/writer/producer decides. Right now it's a gimmick, but that will fade and then it will be used properly.

Sleepwitsirens
05/02/10, 09:25 AM
Depends if you use it right, make the 3-D an addition to the movie, not the essence of it

radxbandit
05/02/10, 01:01 PM
i voted no; there are still plenty of great movies being made, 3d is just making it even easier for intrinsically shitty movies to be financially successful.

the movie better be damn good if i'm going to spend that much money on a 3d feature. i've been swindled once ;-)

jmirand1
05/03/10, 03:12 PM
Not ruining or improving it, just changing it.

Sloth7
05/03/10, 04:58 PM
The price is absurd, and I haven't seen a 3-D movie in the theater since Up, but they asked for the glasses back to "recycle" them after the movie. Clever way for the movie studio to just reuse the glasses again.

It's a cool looking technology, but to pay $15-$17 to see a 3-D movie is just ridiculous.

Akissforher
05/04/10, 01:08 AM
The only thing its ruining is my wallet, im tired of paying an extra 10 bucks for every movie i see cause its only in 3D

Rustash
05/04/10, 05:56 AM
It's ruining the film industry the same way better graphics is ruining the gaming industry. Soon everyone will only care about how good it looks and not the substance of the film itself, although this applies more to games than film i thought it was a decent comparison.

Also 3D with film reminds me of how the Wii tried to put motion controls into games. Sure, it's revolutionary and groundbreaking, but how many amazing games has the Wii had since launch that you've heard about? Avatar is 3D's Twilight Princess.

sdisticsquirrel
05/04/10, 08:55 AM
it's a gimmick and it takes money away from actual story-building devices.
an effect shouldn't be a film's main attraction.
that said, i understood why it was used in Avatar because it was intended to build the audience's connection to the characters.
if it serves some purpose within the story, i can see why they would spend the money.
but for the record... i saw Avatar both ways and didn't see enough of a difference to make me want to pay more and get a headache from wearing glasses through the whole movie... it wasn't a big enough difference to make me promote 3D technology at all.

cristinaa
05/04/10, 09:14 AM
I hate paying extra to see a movie in 3D. It really doesn't make the movie any more enjoyable for me. It's just annoying.

ImTheSheriff
05/04/10, 07:54 PM
i said yes, but i meant no. because you can usually see the movies in 2D.

smorgy
05/04/10, 08:01 PM
just a stupid gimmick that i dont want to watch

BornUnderPunches
05/04/10, 08:03 PM
Wasn't UP in 3D? I never saw it but it looked cute
If the new Toy Story's going to be in 3D I'm going to flip

Deadbolt23
05/05/10, 08:28 AM
People make films to make money. Same as it's always been.

TheClockSounds
05/05/10, 03:54 PM
I'm so sick of 3D, hence why I'm not seeing movies in 3D anymore. The new-ness has worn off for me.

Scrawns
05/06/10, 02:46 PM
those who say aye are like when old people tried to reject rock n roll as the devils music.

new tech = times change

times change = umad