Over one million people on facebook are praying for Obama's death...

[bk1987]

So this group,
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/DEAR-LORD-THIS-YEAR-YOU-TOOK-MY-FAVORITE-ACTOR-PATRICK-SWAYZIE-YOU-TOOK-MY-FAVORITE-ACTRESS-FARAH-FAWCETT-YOU-TOOK-MY-FAVORITE-SINGER-MICHAEL-JACKSON-I-JUST-WANTED-TO-LET-YOU-KNOW-MY-FAVORITE-PRESIDENT-IS-BARACK-OBAMA-AMEN/111712585523370

Kindda crazy, not that prayer ever works.

Thoughts?

[Machu505]

Thirteen of my friends joined this. I'm ashamed.

[xshady121]

Yawn.

Bush never caught ANYTHING like this. :rolleyes:

[bk1987]

How is this not hate speech?

[xshady121]

Someone made a documentary, using CGI, showing Bush getting assasinated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=ojWOWyHWj6M

How is that any different? If anything, the depiction of a president being assasinated is far worse than someone "praying" it will happen.

[xshady121]

How is this not hate speech?

You honestly are the dumbest kid in this forum.

Go post somewhere else. Please.

[Machu505]

I think we're ignoring the elephant in the room here. This person's favorite actor and actress were Patrick Swayze and Farrah Fawcett. Clearly no sane person would list those two as their favorites.

[bk1987]

You honestly are the dumbest kid in this forum.

Go post somewhere else. Please.


um... okay....

How about we do it the other way, how about you ignore this thread instead? Will that work out okay with you?

[.invisible ink.]

I think we're ignoring the elephant in the room here. This person's favorite actor and actress were Patrick Swayze and Farrah Fawcett. Clearly no sane person would list those two as their favorites.

this made me laugh. :)

[xshady121]

um... okay....

How about we do it the other way, how about you ignore this thread instead? Will that work out okay with you?

No. Because you're spewing nonsense.

"oh people who don't think like I do want to pray that the president dies. Lets disregard the past 8 years where a president I disagreed with caught shit and I never spoke up. What? Someone made a brutal mockumentary of his assassination? I didn't say boo? That was artistic of course. That's different".

It isn't. You're stupid.

It also isn't hate speech. For you to even assert that it is merely confirms my above belief that you're stupid.

[Yellowcard2006]

I'd like to punch every member of that group in the face.

[bk1987]

No. Because you're spewing nonsense.

"oh people who don't think like I do want to pray that the president dies. Lets disregard the past 8 years where a president I disagreed with caught shit and I never spoke up. What? Someone made a brutal mockumentary of his assassination? I didn't say boo? That was artistic of course. That's different".

It isn't. You're stupid.

It also isn't hate speech. For you to even assert that it is merely confirms my above belief that you're stupid.

I just think over a million people joining a group "Praying" for president's death is a little more alarming than some moron making a fantasy movie. And it's not just praying, maybe you should read some of the postings in the group.

[xshady121]

I just think over a million people joining a group "Praying" for president's death is a little more alarming than some moron making a fantasy movie. And it's not just praying, maybe you should read some of the postings in the group.

Really? What fantasy world do you live in where TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING is worse than VISUALLY REPRESENTING DOING SOMETHING? Like, really? You've got to be kidding me.

And it's not just "a fantasy movie". Maybe you should read some of the comments on that video.

[ninthandash]

FAN PAGES ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS

i joined just to piss people like you off, thanks for the tip

[Sloth7]

I hate this group not cause of the Obama factor, but solely for the fact that those ridiculously wordy Facebook groups are annoying.

I'm not an Obama fan by any means, but why waste your prayers on this? I'd rather pray for Guacamole Doritos to make a comeback.

[TROKyle]

So less than 1/300 of the citizens of the United States have joined this group.
It really is a big deal?
Let me know when that number gets up to say roughly 250,000,000 and maybe then its time to be concerned.

[Mitch]

Some of the arguments are hilarious. All by the same girl to somebody named Akash:

...let's debate health care reform. That's right, what Obama "says" is going to be in the bill, no one really knows...not even you. From working in the healthcare field, what I do know is, That the poor elderly people who are on Medicare, are really going to get screwed now, and your ME ma, god forbid she gets sick and is dying, the government gets to decide whether she lives or dies. Common
Akash, I am waiting for your debate


:hitself: :hitself: :hitself:

[Machu505]

I hate this group not cause of the Obama factor, but solely for the fact that those ridiculously wordy Facebook groups are annoying.

I'm not an Obama fan by any means, but why waste your prayers on this? I'd rather pray for Guacamole Doritos to make a comeback.

I'd rather pray for bottled Baja Blast.

[vivatoto56]

I'd rather pray for bottled Baja Blast.

The only reason I go to Taco Bell.

[Scrandon]

sad

[Gumbyjag]

dumb.

[Americanism]

sad

Not to piss off any libertarians, but I do have to agree. Both things, the bush assassination vid and the facebook page. I just find the facebook page a little more disturbing because its a larger amount of people in a much less controlled and educated format perpetuating ridiculous beliefs upon idiots who believe anything in order to take down the president thus setting off a crazy chain of events leading to anarchy.
:lol:
But seriously the vid is kind of hard to judge out of context and I'd rather view its entirety than just judge the rest off of youtube comments.

[EchoPark]

I'd like to punch every member of that group in the face.

Ditto. Followed by defecation on their face as they lie in their own blood.

[aamberlynn]

I just think over a million people joining a group "Praying" for president's death is a little more alarming than some moron making a fantasy movie. And it's not just praying, maybe you should read some of the postings in the group.

I disagree. I gaurentee you that 70% of those people are only in the group because it's worded in a funny way; they're probably also a good percentage of the million or-so fans of "I Will Name My Son Batman if This Page gets 500,000"

[secretsociety92]

Stupid group with a bunch of stupid people joining it because everyone knows that prayers don't work.

[studskalny]

sad
dumb.

That about sums it up..

[TheProsAndCons]

....Acctuall 'chrisitians' joined that group....someone with jesus as their profile picture posted something on it....stupid cults.

[mymusicismylife]

People react to Obama too strongly both ways. I just hate facebook groups in general. 99% of them are completely idiotic. Also, realize at least a third of the members are people who just joined because they were invited.

[Zeran]

I hate this group not cause of the Obama factor, but solely for the fact that those ridiculously wordy Facebook groups are annoying.

I'm not an Obama fan by any means, but why waste your prayers on this? I'd rather pray for Guacamole Doritos to make a comeback.

sweet mother of god, i want guacamole doritos.

[Justin_stacy]

I think we're ignoring the elephant in the room here. This person's favorite actor and actress were Patrick Swayze and Farrah Fawcett. Clearly no sane person would list those two as their favorites.

Fuck you. Wolverine forever.

[diehtc0ke]

I hate this group not cause of the Obama factor, but solely for the fact that those ridiculously wordy Facebook groups are annoying.

I'm not an Obama fan by any means, but why waste your prayers on this? I'd rather pray for Guacamole Doritos to make a comeback.
Amen.

[Sloth7]

sweet mother of god, i want guacamole doritos.

Amen.


I never knew how much I'd miss having powdery green fingers while eating them. We need some kind of write-in campaign to Frito Lay!

I'm hoping this thread just morphs into a Guacamole Doritos appreciation thread.

[Smeee]

I'm a Christian and I would REALLY appreciate a fellow Christian explaining how they can justify this. The mind boggles.

[caveBEAR]

Anyone else getting the feeling that his assassination (or at least attempt) is almost imminent? I feel like the little nugget of violence has been thrown around too long, and sooner or later a lunatic is going to try to Reagan him, only this time it's not for Jodie Foster, but for Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin. :shudder:

[simplejack]

This kind of groups has been made for my leader Berlusconi too and, even if I completely agree with the group, a simple prayer isn't enough for kicking him in the ass

[caveBEAR]

I am not wishing Death on Obama. I wish some one would have stood up for the constitution and made him produce his records proving he was a natural born citizen.

Amen! :rolleyes:

[troubledbyinsects]

I hate this group not cause of the Obama factor, but solely for the fact that those ridiculously wordy Facebook groups are annoying.

I'm not an Obama fan by any means, but why waste your prayers on this? I'd rather pray for Flamin' Hot Doritos to make a comeback.

fixed.

[Zeran]

Amen! :rolleyes:

do they not believe his actual birth certificate that's been posted is real or what? i don't get it.

[PengusNiugnep]

Because all of these people are actually praying that Obama dies. :rolleyes:

[HometownHero]

Don't like Obama. Would never pray/wish death on him. He's not doing that bad. I'd never pray anyway though

[gr33ndayfr3ak]

I guarantee this group wouldn't have half as many members if the title was "Praying that God kills my President, Barack Obama"
Even though it is essentialy insinuating the same thing. Just more to-the-point.

[caveBEAR]

do they not believe his actual birth certificate that's been posted is real or what? i don't get it.

Pretty much. They think his birth certificate is a forgery, and won't accept anything other than a birth certificate from Kenya. Bonus points if the birth certificate is a leaf scribbled on with blood.

[The Indigo]

I think the title of the group is clever and funny.

[Midget Pirates]

you would think he would know how to spell his favorite actor's last name right.

[DDAANNIIEELL]

These people are not literally praying for the death of Obama. They are simply not fans of Obama, with a bad sense of humor, and a group-joining fetish.

Don't be stupid...

And I'm not really a fan of either, but Bush got waaaaaaaaaaay more crap, and still does. Even from the current president. Everytime I hear him speak, he blames Bush for everything. Its kind of annoying, and IMO in bad taste...

[samsara]

Those people are dumb. If they are real Christians then they know that praying for the death of someone is just as bad as committing the crime.

[gianne parkway.]

I never knew how much I'd miss having powdery green fingers while eating them. We need some kind of write-in campaign to Frito Lay!

I'm hoping this thread just morphs into a Guacamole Doritos appreciation thread.

Haha, I'd love to help with that.

[flask]

Pretty much. They think his birth certificate is a forgery, and won't accept anything other than a birth certificate from Kenya. Bonus points if the birth certificate is a leaf scribbled on with blood.

they'd probably still consider that fake too!

[Captain Awesome]

Obama's followers are only mind slaves. The end.

[J.C.]

I do and will continute to find the personal hatred directed towards Barry befuddling.

[Zeran]

it's like he cancelled christmas and then put every child under the age of 5 into concentration camps or something.

[xcloud66x]

*sigh*

this reminds me of that video of people throwing rocks at some old lady in a wheelchair who got medicaid. some people have no shame

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Obama's followers are only mind slaves. The end.

you calling me a mind slave?

[caveBEAR]

Obama's followers are only mind slaves. The end.

What's this shit? Yeah, people supporting the President are mind-slaves, not the people calling for the death of the 'Muslim-leader from Africa'. :rolleyes:

[Machu505]

The only way someone could possibly disagree with me is if they were brainwashed.

Obviously.

[Sean Rizzo]

Those people are dumb. If they are real Christians then they know that praying for the death of someone is just as bad as committing the crime.
This, no matter what your political views.

Oh, and you forgot something. =P

/thread

[caveBEAR]

The only way someone could possibly disagree with me is if they were brainwashed.

Obviously.

People from West Virginia are all mind-slaves.

[deFobbed14yrs]

These people are not literally praying for the death of Obama. They are simply not fans of Obama, with a bad sense of humor, and a group-joining fetish.

Don't be stupid...

And I'm not really a fan of either, but Bush got waaaaaaaaaaay more crap, and still does. Even from the current president. Everytime I hear him speak, he blames Bush for everything. Its kind of annoying, and IMO in bad taste...



b/c Bush and his administration helped knock down this country..............

[Justin_stacy]

People from West Virginia are all mind-slaves.

...i heard they are also a bunch of hillbilly cousin fuckers...:unsure:

[Machu505]

People from West Virginia are all mind-slaves.

...i heard they are also a bunch of hillbilly cousin fuckers...:unsure:

I typically refer to my area as the honky ghetto.

Is that so wrong?

[caveBEAR]

I typically refer to my area as the honky ghetto.

Is that so wrong?

You must drive real fast, cuz' that statement was race-ist. ;-)

[Justin_stacy]

I typically refer to my area as the honky ghetto.

Is that so wrong?

could always be worse...you could of be from Arkansas.

[DDAANNIIEELL]

b/c Bush and his administration helped knock down this country..............

o rly. Tell me what legislation Bush passed that helped "knock down this country." I know he wasn't great, but come on, Obama is currently raising taxes in a recession...

Think about it.

[paper halo]

o rly. Tell me what legislation Bush passed that helped "knock down this country." I know he wasn't great, but come on, Obama is currently raising taxes in a recession...

Think about it.

:hitself:

[loveisdead]

o rly. Tell me what legislation Bush passed that helped "knock down this country." I know he wasn't great, but come on, Obama is currently raising taxes in a recession...

Think about it.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

We've hit a new low.

[xshady121]

o rly. Tell me what legislation Bush passed that helped "knock down this country." I know he wasn't great, but come on, Obama is currently raising taxes in a recession...

Think about it.

In which year would you like me to start?

[shit stroll]

These people are not literally praying for the death of Obama. They are simply not fans of Obama, with a bad sense of humor, and a group-joining fetish.

Don't be stupid...

And I'm not really a fan of either, but Bush got waaaaaaaaaaay more crap, and still does. Even from the current president. Everytime I hear him speak, he blames Bush for everything. Its kind of annoying, and IMO in bad taste...

i'm assuming you like reagan? he blamed everything on carter. pretty much any president/prime minister is going to blame the country's problems on his predecessor. if anything he doesn't blame bush enough.

[loveisdead]

i'm assuming you like reagan? he blamed everything on carter. pretty much any president/prime minister is going to blame the country's problems on his predecessor. if anything he doesn't blame bush enough.

bingo.

[Zeran]

o rly. Tell me what legislation Bush passed that helped "knock down this country." I know he wasn't great, but come on, Obama is currently raising taxes in a recession...

Think about it.

why do you think he's raised taxes? because it's the complete opposite, they're actually the lowest they've been for decades.

[caveBEAR]

o rly. Tell me what legislation Bush passed that helped "knock down this country." I know he wasn't great, but come on, Obama is currently raising taxes in a recession...

Think about it.

Ha. You're a Mormon. This makes much more sense now.

[richter915]

these kind of groups are just part of the conservative response to a liberal in the oval office. We've had 8 years of "down with Bush" anthems, it's their time to kick and scream. If a facebook group and some redneck teabaggers is the best they can do, we have nothing to really worry about.

[richter915]

why do you think he's raised taxes? because it's the complete opposite, they're actually the lowest they've been for decades.
don't forget the tax breaks for the rich.

[Machu505]

I'd love to contribute to the chorus of lolz against this dude, but I'm sure he's been quoted enough.

[deFobbed14yrs]

o rly. Tell me what legislation Bush passed that helped "knock down this country." I know he wasn't great, but come on, Obama is currently raising taxes in a recession...

Think about it.


oh i have, i have since i was 9 and watched two towers fall down, people from my town dying and having family go off to war. where would you like me to start?

Obama is doing nothing but trying to rebuild this country after 8 years of nonsense, and a few yeas on Clinton bullshit too.

It takes more to fix a problem than to make one.

[DDAANNIIEELL]

oh i have, i have since i was 9 and watched two towers fall down, people from my town dying and having family go off to war. where would you like me to start?

Obama is doing nothing but trying to rebuild this country after 8 years of nonsense, and a few yeas on Clinton bullshit too.

It takes more to fix a problem than to make one.

All this hate and no one answered my question. I dont know that much about the Bush administration, except that he gets hate for the war and the economy, but I don't really think either of those were caused by his legislation. I could be wrong and would love proof.

You can't really blame Bush personally for the attack on the Twin Towers, and war is what happens after someone attacks you.

Did Obama cut taxes? I certainly did not hear that on the news. But if he didn't, then I wonder who did? And raising them back up will happen eventually. How else do you expect the US to pay for the stimulus package and all the new government jobs created by it that will cost us more and more as time goes on?

[liarsenic678]

I hate this group not cause of the Obama factor, but solely for the fact that those ridiculously wordy Facebook groups are annoying.

I'm not an Obama fan by any means, but why waste your prayers on this? I'd rather pray for Guacamole Doritos to make a comeback.


AGREED, and already praying they do make a comeback

[J.C.]

You can pretty much bank on these threads going full retard.

[reckoner]

All this hate and no one answered my question. I dont know that much about the Bush administration, except that he gets hate for the war and the economy, but I don't really think either of those were caused by his legislation. I could be wrong and would love proof.

You can't really blame Bush personally for the attack on the Twin Towers, and war is what happens after someone attacks you.

Did Obama cut taxes? I certainly did not hear that on the news. But if he didn't, then I wonder who did? And raising them back up will happen eventually. How else do you expect the US to pay for the stimulus package and all the new government jobs created by it that will cost us more and more as time goes on?

LOL. Who made the decision to go to war then?

[caveBEAR]

All this hate and no one answered my question. I dont know that much about the Bush administration, except that he gets hate for the war and the economy, but I don't really think either of those were caused by his legislation. I could be wrong and would love proof.

Holy fuck. You can't be serious. You definitely don't know anything about the Bush administration. Who was the President when the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were started? Bush.

You're a moron.

[apoemtothedead]

I think the title of the group is clever and funny.
I bet you also enjoy Larry the Cable Guy.

[Mitch]

Did Obama cut taxes? I certainly did not hear that on the news. But if he didn't, then I wonder who did? And raising them back up will happen eventually. How else do you expect the US to pay for the stimulus package and all the new government jobs created by it that will cost us more and more as time goes on?

Yes you did--the stimulus was very widely covered.

[J.C.]

I bet you also enjoy Larry the Cable Guy.

thats funny rite thurr, i dont kurr who ya are

[caveBEAR]

Yes you did--the stimulus was very widely covered.

:lol:

This Dan kid can't be fucking serious. How can you act like you know what you're talking about when you seem to have not turned on a T.V. since the Clinton years?

[The Indigo]

I bet you also enjoy Larry the Cable Guy.
Southern stereotype blah blah blah. I laughed when I heard about it. I don't see the big deal.

[apoemtothedead]

Southern stereotype blah blah blah. I laughed when I heard about it. I don't see the big deal.
Look at you playing the southern-card. I made no mention of geographic regions.

[caveBEAR]

Southern stereotype blah blah blah. I laughed when I heard about it. I don't see the big deal.

I think it's mostly the part about Obama dying, but I could be wrong. :rolleyes:

[eriatarka24]

I think it's mostly the part about Obama dying, but I could be wrong. :rolleyes:
oh sure yeah, like there haven't been any other kind of groups about other people.

[caveBEAR]

oh sure yeah, like there haven't been any other kind of groups about other people.

I'd think those were fucking disgusting as well. Why does the existence of other ignorant bullshit somehow negate the ignorant bullshit here?

[reckoner]

Praying for death... Hmmm.

[The Indigo]

Look at you playing the southern-card. I made no mention of geographic regions.
K.

I think it's mostly the part about Obama dying, but I could be wrong. :rolleyes:
People make jokes about people dying all the time, Presidents included. I'd be a hypocrite if I pretended this should be looked at any differently than any other joke.

[caveBEAR]

People make jokes about people dying all the time, Presidents included. I'd be a hypocrite if I pretended this should be looked at any differently than any other joke.

I never make jokes about people dying. Maybe I'm just not an asshole.

[J.C.]

Praying for the death of an American President combines the aspects of Christianity and love of country that the Right is always talking about. You're really getting the best of both worlds in this one concept.

[caveBEAR]

Praying for the death of an American President combines the aspects of Christianity and love of country that the Right is always talking about. You're really getting the best of both worlds in this one concept.

'Love thy neighbor...unless he's black and someone stole control of the country, then smite that mother fucker!!!'

[loveisdead]

Scary times right now.

[caveBEAR]

Scary times right now.

I think the fact that some people think this is normal is even fucking scarier.

[loveisdead]

I think the fact that some people think this is normal is even fucking scarier.

Yeah society sucks.

[caveBEAR]

Yeah society sucks.

Pretty much. That would make us misanthropes, correct?

[loveisdead]

Pretty much. That would make us misanthropes, correct?

Certainly something close to it.

[caveBEAR]

Certainly something close to it.

I'm not sure if 'hatred towards society' is too strong or not strong enough. :shrug:

[loveisdead]

I'm not sure if 'hatred towards society' is too strong or not strong enough. :shrug:

Eh, it doesn't necessarily have to be hatred. A general dislike could sorta apply.

[caveBEAR]

Eh, it doesn't necessarily have to be hatred. A general dislike could sorta apply.

True. I think I'm just constantly let down. I feel like a disappointed parent.

[Zeran]

anddd...../threadjack for you two?

[The Indigo]

I never make jokes about people dying. Maybe I'm just not an asshole.
I'm not saying making jokes about someone dying is OK. I'm saying if you don't get all in an uproar about it every time it happens, I'm not sure why you're doing it now. Like someone said before, it this was made about Bush, the reactions would be totally different.

'Love thy neighbor...unless he's black and someone stole control of the country, then smite that mother fucker!!!'
:rolleyes: You do realize not all animosity towards Obama is driven by racism, right?

[caveBEAR]

I'm not saying making jokes about someone dying is OK. I'm saying if you don't get all in an uproar about it every time it happens, I'm not sure why you're doing it now. Like someone said before, it this was made about Bush, the reactions would be totally different.

Not me.

:rolleyes: You do realize not all animosity towards Obama is driven by racism, right?

You do realize an alarming amount of it is, right?

[The Indigo]

Not me.
If you say so.

You do realize an alarming amount of it is, right?[/quote]
I find it funny how many people are all of a sudden alarmed by racism now that their President is a black man.

[caveBEAR]

I find it funny how many people are all of a sudden alarmed by racism now that their President is a black man.

I find it funny you think I only started caring about racism since Obama got elected. :rolleyes: I didn't realize I posted that information in my profile.

[zion the lion]

Anyone else getting the feeling that his assassination (or at least attempt) is almost imminent? I feel like the little nugget of violence has been thrown around too long, and sooner or later a lunatic is going to try to Reagan him, only this time it's not for Jodie Foster, but for Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin. :shudder:

I definitely thought it was going to happen, but now I dont know. I mean, it could happen again, but not for the same reasons as Regan, definitely not in the name of someone else but in the name of the country like Lincoln.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

I definitely thought it was going to happen, but now I dont know. I mean, it could happen again, but not for the same reasons as Regan, definitely not in the name of someone else but in the name of the country like Lincoln.

http://www.theonion.com/video/man-attempts-to-assassinate-obama-but-not-because,17220/

[zion the lion]

http://www.theonion.com/video/man-attempts-to-assassinate-obama-but-not-because,17220/

Whoops, I totally forgot he was black.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Whoops, I totally forgot he was black.

I know, right?

[zion the lion]

I know, right?

Surely I wouldnt have thought about that in the least bit, and it wouldnt be included in "for the good of the country" or something.

[Zeran]

I definitely thought it was going to happen, but now I dont know. I mean, it could happen again, but not for the same reasons as Regan, definitely not in the name of someone else but in the name of the country like Lincoln.

for all their talk and blah blah, this would be the death knell of conservatism/talk radio/right wing bullshit/republicanism, so it's not happening.

[rorykills]

This sucks

[zion the lion]

for all their talk and blah blah, this would be the death knell of conservatism/talk radio/right wing bullshit/republicanism, so it's not happening.

I didnt think it was going to happen because of the crazy right wingers, I thought it was going to happen because of some backwoods skinhead screw ups who were looking to get the ultimate score in their imagined race war.

[deFobbed14yrs]

All this hate and no one answered my question. I dont know that much about the Bush administration, except that he gets hate for the war and the economy, but I don't really think either of those were caused by his legislation. I could be wrong and would love proof.

You can't really blame Bush personally for the attack on the Twin Towers, and war is what happens after someone attacks you.

Did Obama cut taxes? I certainly did not hear that on the news. But if he didn't, then I wonder who did? And raising them back up will happen eventually. How else do you expect the US to pay for the stimulus package and all the new government jobs created by it that will cost us more and more as time goes on?

http://lmgtfy.com/

also i am labeling you as troll.

[nennny]

I hate this group not cause of the Obama factor, but solely for the fact that those ridiculously wordy Facebook groups are annoying.

I'm not an Obama fan by any means, but why waste your prayers on this? I'd rather pray for Guacamole Doritos to make a comeback.

LOL!

[The Indigo]

I find it funny you think I only started caring about racism since Obama got elected. :rolleyes: I didn't realize I posted that information in my profile.
I wasn't talking about you specifically.

[caveBEAR]

I wasn't talking about you specifically.

I find it funny you think people only started caring about racism after Obama got elected.

[mattmatumbo]

I find it funny you think people only started caring about racism after Obama got elected.

There was finally someone worthy of ending racism over.

/sarcasm

[The Indigo]

I find it funny you think people only started caring about racism after Obama got elected.
I can only speak from experience and most of the people I hear griping about racism towards Obama never spoke a word against racism anywhere else. Yeah, racism is an archaic mindset that needs to be phased out, but it irritates me how any criticism of Obama is immediately perceived as being based in ignorance, racism, or some other negativity. Can't people just not like the dude?

[caveBEAR]

I can only speak from experience and most of the people I hear griping about racism towards Obama never spoke a word against racism anywhere else. Yeah, racism is an archaic mindset that needs to be phased out, but it irritates me how any criticism of Obama is immediately perceived as being based in ignorance, racism, or some other negativity. Can't people just not like the dude?

Sure, but its also ridiculously easy to pick out if someone actually has a non-racial, actual 'based in policy' problem with Obama (spoiler alert: there aren't that many) , and who has either a racial problem with him, or has a problem with him because of FoxNEWS, and therefore, racial undertones to their problems with him.

[vodyanoj]

Anyone else getting the feeling that his assassination (or at least attempt) is almost imminent? I feel like the little nugget of violence has been thrown around too long, and sooner or later a lunatic is going to try to Reagan him, only this time it's not for Jodie Foster, but for Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin. :shudder:


Ha-ha, at least THESE people are praying. Since we know that prayer doesn't work, I'd rather have them doing that than plotting real assassinations.

[Zeran]

I can only speak from experience and most of the people I hear griping about racism towards Obama never spoke a word against racism anywhere else. Yeah, racism is an archaic mindset that needs to be phased out, but it irritates me how any criticism of Obama is immediately perceived as being based in ignorance, racism, or some other negativity. Can't people just not like the dude?

Sure, but its also ridiculously easy to pick out if someone actually has a non-racial, actual 'based in policy' problem with Obama (spoiler alert: there aren't that many) , and who has either a racial problem with him, or has a problem with him because of FoxNEWS, and therefore, racial undertones to their problems with him.

the amount of people who have actual, specific examples of policy that obama has installed or wants to implement that they are against and don't just use fox news talking points is small, at best.

[The Indigo]

the amount of people who have actual, specific examples of policy that obama has installed or wants to implement that they are against and don't just use fox news talking points is small, at best.
I think that's an unfair assumption. The liberal media (which does exist, just as the conservative media does) just portrays the crazies more than the rational ones. With the rise of the internet (which is hugely liberal, and I believe this to be undeniable), and being that most young people get our news from the internet, it is completely reasonable to assume there is just more focus placed on the crazies.

Hell, even the tea partiers are painted as wholly insane when they're doing the most American thing one can do.

[Zeran]

i've read conservative blogs/newspapers/editorials in addition to liberal ones, and i still would say that, by and large, the amount of people who have problems with obama's policies and can rationally, logically point out specific examples of them is much smaller than people who are simply using either what they hear or their base emotions to make judgements.

[caveBEAR]

I think that's an unfair assumption. The liberal media (which does exist, just as the conservative media does) just portrays the crazies more than the rational ones. With the rise of the internet (which is hugely liberal, and I believe this to be undeniable), and being that most young people get our news from the internet, it is completely reasonable to assume there is just more focus placed on the crazies.

Hell, even the tea partiers are painted as wholly insane when they're doing the most American thing one can do.

:lol:

What? Protesting things that don't exist or are completely misconstrued in their mind? Yeah, I guess that is pretty American.



Funny how the internet, which isn't run by any group, turns out to be liberal, no?

[caveBEAR]

i've read conservative blogs/newspapers/editorials in addition to liberal ones, and i still would say that, by and large, the amount of people who have problems with obama's policies and can rationally, logically point out specific examples of them is much smaller than people who are simply using either what they hear or their base emotions to make judgements.

Exactly. I've heard the complaints, and I am also very aware of the policies. Not many of them match up.


Kind of like people protesting Obama's hatred for guns by protesting with their guns out in public parks...which is allowed now because of Obama. :rolleyes:

[The Indigo]

:lol:

What? Protesting things that don't exist or are completely misconstrued in their mind? Yeah, I guess that is pretty American.



Funny how the internet, which isn't run by any group, turns out to be liberal, no?
They aren't all uninformed morons protesting death panels and asking for Obama's birth certificate for the twentieth time. Some are, but not all. They're disgruntled with the direction their country is going, the higher taxes and bigger government. They've got every right to protest those things. I think it's a great movement.

And the internet is mainly a tool of the young and young people are overwhelmingly more liberal than their parents. The internet isn't run by one specific group, but it's predominantly used by young liberals.

[caveBEAR]

They aren't all uninformed morons protesting death panels and asking for Obama's birth certificate for the twentieth time. Some are, but not all. They're disgruntled with the direction their country is going, the higher taxes and bigger government. They've got every right to protest those things. I think it's a great movement.

And the internet is mainly a tool of the young and young people are overwhelmingly more liberal than their parents. The internet isn't run by one specific group, but it's predominantly used by young liberals.

Taxes are lower now than they've been in years.

You're done. Funny, remember how I said I can pick people out who don't know what they're talking about by their arguments? This is one of them.

[The Indigo]

Taxes are lower now than they've been in years.

You're done. Funny, remember how I said I can pick people out who don't know what they're talking about by their arguments? This is one of them.
Ha, for who?

[caveBEAR]

Ha, for who?

Most Americans. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/15/tax-day-2010-protesters-i_n_538556.html) :rolleyes:

[samsara]

I once meet a lady from the Huffington Post...at a Sarah Palin rally.

[The Indigo]

Most Americans. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/15/tax-day-2010-protesters-i_n_538556.html) :rolleyes:
At least choose a source that isn't notorious for being the most bias online media mag (source: American Journalism Review), but even according to their article:

"I would say that people are angry because big taxes are coming down the road because of the gigantic deficit built up under Bush and continued under Obama."

Also:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/515/no-family-making-less-250000-will-see-any-form-tax/

[caveBEAR]

I once meet a lady from the Huffington Post...at a Sarah Palin rally.

Why were you at a Palin rally? :shudder:

[caveBEAR]

At least choose a source that isn't notorious for being the most bias online media mag (source: American Journalism Review), but even according to their article:

"I would say that people are angry because big taxes are coming down the road because of the gigantic deficit built up under Bush and continued under Obama."

Also:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/515/no-family-making-less-250000-will-see-any-form-tax/

:lol:

Your link doesn't even have sources.

[The Indigo]

:lol:

Your link doesn't even have sources.
Politifact is an extremely fair source. Completely unbias.

[samsara]

Why were you at a Palin rally? :shudder:

To get sunburnt and nearly puked on. Also just to hear her accent.

[caveBEAR]

Politifact is an extremely fair source. Completely unbias.

I know that, but without sources you will not be swaying my opinion.

[SteveySixx]

Who cares. Obama doesn't face near as much criticism as GW did in his terms as President. Not even close. Libs love playing victim though so don't say anything bad about Black Jesus or you're in for it.lol
Also, all that are not shoved up the left's ass are not Christians and Christians are not the only religion that prays.
Just sayin.

[rawesome]

Who cares. Obama doesn't face near as much criticism as GW did in his terms as President. Not even close. Libs love playing victim though so don't say anything bad about Black Jesus or you're in for it.lol
Also, all that are not shoved up the left's ass are not Christians and Christians are not the only religion that prays.
Just sayin.
That's simply not true. It may be equivalent, but to say that Bush was somehow criticized more is simply laughable.

Using the term "lib" makes you sound ignorant.

[SteveySixx]

You're ignorant.

[xshady121]

That's simply not true. It may be equivalent, but to say that Bush was somehow criticized more is simply laughable.

Using the term "lib" makes you sound ignorant.

I would agree with him.

[SteveySixx]

xshady121, i don't know who you're agreeing with Rawesome or myself but either way it's always nice to see another Libertarian.

[rawesome]

I would agree with him.
There was literally a good two years, and two wars, before "Bush bashing" became a common phenomenon. I mean, obviously he had his opponents from the beginning, but certainly nothing as extreme as what Obama received before even being elected. In addition, Bush-hate is pretty bipartisan, even my ridiculously Conservative, Sean Hannity-worshiping dad doesn't like Bush. Obama hate is almost entirely partisan, however. This, if nothing else, should speak to how much Bush really did to deserve the backlash he received, whereas Obama is simply irritating people who don't agree with him (mostly), which of course warrants death threats.

[SteveySixx]

I agree with some things you say but I wouldn't say that Obama hate is almost entirely partisan. Hell, he has flip flopped on so many issues it's not funny. He extended the Left-wing hated Patriot Act and is taking credit for the Liberation of Iraq after voting against the war and everything that had to do with it. Not to mention many other issues. He's a goon like the rest of them. He's so worried about getting his idea's through (like the Health Care Reform) that he turns a blind a eye to the shitty economy and national debt that is killing America. It all comes down to power. The gov't owns most of the auto industry, banks, real estate, and now health care all because of "great" ideas by Obama. I can see why people want to lash out and call him a socialist because government is getting entirely to big and taxes are being raised entirely too high. The government is supposed to work for the people of America, not the other way around.

[Lueda Alia]

Who cares. Obama doesn't face near as much criticism as GW did in his terms as President. Not even close. Libs love playing victim though so don't say anything bad about Black Jesus or you're in for it.lol
Also, all that are not shoved up the left's ass are not Christians and Christians are not the only religion that prays.
Just sayin.
You're 25 and you used the term "Black Jesus"?

Get out of here.

[Zeran]

I agree with some things you say but I wouldn't say that Obama hate is almost entirely partisan. Hell, he has flip flopped on so many issues it's not funny. He extended the Left-wing hated Patriot Act and is taking credit for the Liberation of Iraq after voting against the war and everything that had to do with it. Not to mention many other issues. He's a goon like the rest of them. He's so worried about getting his idea's through (like the Health Care Reform) that he turns a blind a eye to the shitty economy and national debt that is killing America. It all comes down to power. The gov't owns most of the auto industry, banks, real estate, and now health care all because of "great" ideas by Obama. I can see why people want to lash out and call him a socialist because government is getting entirely to big and taxes are being raised entirely too high. The government is supposed to work for the people of America, not the other way around.

what are you talking about? seriously, what the fuck are you talking about?

[loveisdead]

W didn't get nearly as much hate this early in his presidency. 9/11 made it impossible for anyone to question what he was doing in fear that they would be seen as unpatriotic. Even the media wouldn't criticize Bush until Iraq.

[vodyanoj]

I agree with some things you say but I wouldn't say that Obama hate is almost entirely partisan. Hell, he has flip flopped on so many issues it's not funny. He extended the Left-wing hated Patriot Act and is taking credit for the Liberation of Iraq after voting against the war and everything that had to do with it. Not to mention many other issues. He's a goon like the rest of them. He's so worried about getting his idea's through (like the Health Care Reform) that he turns a blind a eye to the shitty economy and national debt that is killing America. It all comes down to power. The gov't owns most of the auto industry, banks, real estate, and now health care all because of "great" ideas by Obama. I can see why people want to lash out and call him a socialist because government is getting entirely to big and taxes are being raised entirely too high. The government is supposed to work for the people of America, not the other way around.


LOL. Too high for what? This country is the lowest-taxed in the Western world. And government ownership of means of production? Heh, I could only wish the government here took over public utilities, at least. You don't have the slightest idea what you are on about. You are what the word "parochial" was invented for. And perhaps, "village idiot" as well.