Self-Promotion Forum

[thecurerocks182]

I believe something should be done to make this forum more appealing to the viewers because evidently, judging by the fact that it receives one of the least amount of posts (1,177), it seems virutally pointless to advertise your band or obtain advice there. This issue wouldn't be of much concern if this site had never vowed to be all about the music and aiding bands in their quest for exposure and getting signed. I know AP is able to give many bands a chance if they only utilized their growing popularity and focused more on up and coming bands like those within this forum then those who are already signed. So, i suggest that you consider adding something to forums, such as these, that will make viewers want to try out bands...maybe picking a featured band or recommending something from it. I know those are terrible but they're only to give an example. Anyways, I'm not doing this for my own band but other bands within that forum who receive no attention or responses and deserve such chances which AP could provide

[Tristan Needler]

well, i remember frank was supposed to make the whole thing a lot better, but then he didn't, then he quit. but i really think it could be so much better if someone was in charge, helped it out, and most of all, the staff listened to the bands like the original plan stated. i've said many times, i think this would be such an amazing improvement to ap if that forum was really attended to and made better.

[thecurerocks182]

yes, this site has the potential to do great things for rising bands if only they'd make endeavours further than creating a forum and allowing artists to promote themselves because lets face it, anyone can promote their band on a site now if only this site, absolutepunk, could expand on that idea. a plethoric amount of bands submit themselves and receive no play at all, which is a shame. Hopefully, the administrator or any faculty of this site will rise to the challenge.

[headclub]

i couldnt agree more with both of you

[thecurerocks182]

I propose that a staff member and/or admin help bands out by adding a column in their sunday recommendations that includes a band from this sites self-promotion forum and with that being said, entails that registered users must have a particular amount of postings in order to submit their band in the forum because i've noticed that users are registering simply to promote their bands, which isn't terrible, but suffice to say that they want nothing to do with the site itself so why should they receive the opportunity of exposure opposed to regular users. Anyways, hope someone will read this. thanks

[headclub]

I propose that a staff member and/or admin help bands out by adding a column in their sunday recommendations that includes a band from this sites self-promotion forum and with that being said, entails that registered users must have a particular amount of postings in order to submit their band in the forum because i've noticed that users are registering simply to promote their bands, which isn't terrible, but suffice to say that they want nothing to do with the site itself so why should they receive the opportunity of exposure opposed to regular users. Anyways, hope someone will read this. thanks


yea, but then theyd make it to where you have to have 1000 or 2000 some posts

[thecurerocks182]

i don't believe they'd set such high standards because i don't see much users that have such an amount of postings. I think the restriction should be low just to ensure that individuals and/or bands don't register for the sake of promoting themselves. A lot of bands in that forum that promote themselves have as low as 1 posting which is blatantly just to expose their band. With a low restriction the site can assure itself that they are not simply being exploited for their services while retaining a welcoming sense of feeling for up and coming bands/artists...but I don't know.uncertainty plauges me..nothing i say here will ever impact anyone of any importance on this site that could possibly grant such ideas so my endeavours to improve on this section seem to be inane at best nor do i believe that anyone glances in this forum. Why have an improvement section if it goes unheard of or seen? Why have a site that vows to be about the music and not use their power to help expose bands? I realize that there has been cases were a band has received great exposure due to this site, but why not expand on that idea and the idea that you, whoever is involved in this site, intended when you created the self-promotion forum. There are many exceptional bands in there that receive no attention. As you may know, life is full of uncertainties and the questions i have asked, i cannot anwser myself, so it is up to you to fill in the blank...Thanks

[Tristan Needler]

to me it doesn't seem like there is any problem yet with people who have a small post count posting their bands. maybe if threads were falling off the first page in a matter of a day or two, this would be a problem that needed be addressed, but as of now i don't think it's an issue. secondly, the second half of what you said isn't really fair. this improvement forum is checked, and things are constantly being done to the site, even though they may not be apparent, to improve it daily. jason replies personally to a lot of the threads in here, and if you have seen, you'd know most of the replies are to the affect of "that sounds good, i'll look into it." so to say nothing you ever say will be seen is a little off-base.

[thecurerocks182]

to me it doesn't seem like there is any problem yet with people who have a small post count posting their bands. maybe if threads were falling off the first page in a matter of a day or two, this would be a problem that needed be addressed, but as of now i don't think it's an issue. secondly, the second half of what you said isn't really fair. this improvement forum is checked, and things are constantly being done to the site, even though they may not be apparent, to improve it daily. jason replies personally to a lot of the threads in here, and if you have seen, you'd know most of the replies are to the affect of "that sounds good, i'll look into it." so to say nothing you ever say will be seen is a little off-base.
ya probably so.. I just haven't been sleeping much lately and was in a rather bad mood when i wrote that, but i still stand by most of it.

[thecurerocks182]

I guess my speculations were right, for nothing i said made an impact on anybody. 130 people viewed this, but resisted to comment. Perhaps I am among few that feel that the self-promotion thread could do a lot more than being an obligatory forum.

[Iamhome]

i think it'd be cool if the self promotion forum got more views/comments, but you can't force the majority of people on here to check out bands. They obviously don't want to hear new music, unless it's 'good' enough to be posted in the main news section.

[thecurerocks182]

I'm not implying that the site forces users to check out the bands, but for the staff members to have some involvement in it...perhaps they could make a spot in their sunday recommendations, in which they choose a band from it. The self-promotion forum needs some appeal, and perhaps users posts should be considered before they can submit their band because a plethoric of users seem to just sign-up for the free promotion... Maybe, by doing all this, the site might be able to make the self-promotion forum an active community for those in bands... where they can discuss each others bands instead of only looking at the forum in vested interest. Anyways, that is all I have to say. Take care Iamhome.

[thecurerocks182]

hi

[Chancetobe]

I thought the idea of having staff review one band per week from the self promotion forums was great. That could really bring a lot of attention to the overlooked forum (which I actually just checked otu for the first time ever today). But, needing to have a certain post count is silly. If anything that would just create more spam - people trying to up their post counts just to post their bands music.

[Tristan Needler]

Looks like something along these lines may finally be in the works for real.

[Melissa Johnson]

What do you kids think about putting the SBRUs in the self promo forum and then linking to it in the news post? Yay or nay?

[doomcrs04]

What do you kids think about putting the SBRUs in the self promo forum and then linking to it in the news post? Yay or nay?
Nay, less people would go in there to see them.

[thecurerocks182]

I thought the idea of having staff review one band per week from the self promotion forums was great. That could really bring a lot of attention to the overlooked forum (which I actually just checked otu for the first time ever today). But, needing to have a certain post count is silly. If anything that would just create more spam - people trying to up their post counts just to post their bands music.
As I've stated many of times, this site holds a lot of potential in opening the doors for up and comming bands. I reside in a small town north of Toronto and I see how difficult it can be for bands to get exposure, which is why I stress how productive this site could be if it took itself more serious in certain aspects of it. The site is increasingly becoming more and more popular. However, nothing much has changed in certain forums throughout the site. The self-promotion forum recieves virtually no attention still because there is nothing appealing enough for people to commit to it other than for the hope that they may gain some fans. These people look at the forums invested interest, and not for the love of music. It needs user that are devoted and are willing to devote time to discovering a band or giving one a chance that they would have normally ignored...it is a virtual means of communcating with other bands associated with this site.

As for the post counts, it was simply an inane idea I came up with a long time ago, but it was an idea nonetheless. I thought of attempting to restrict those who simply register to the site only with the interest of promoting their bands. These individuals do not see a community of musicians who could potentially help one another. No, they attempt to use the forum for some cheap promotion purposes. I understand it is a self-promotion thread, but it is the only thread that links all the bands registered to the website together in order to converse about each others musical endeavours and etc.

Anyways, I'm bored (as this ramble mostly likely suggests). I'm glad some people show some interests in this thread I created, or should I say the Self-Promotion forum in general.

[thecurerocks182]

What do you kids think about putting the SBRUs in the self promo forum and then linking to it in the news post? Yay or nay?
I have no idea what SBRUs are.

Nay, less people would go in there to see them.
Have you not noticed the amount of posts it yields? I don't think anything can make it more counter-productive unless the site were to remove all together. If you visit the forum right now, you will fully realize how passive its efforts really are, as there is almost as many zero replies to threads as there are replies.

[Melissa Johnson]

I have no idea what SBRUs are.


Have you not noticed the amount of posts it yields? I don't think anything can make it more counter-productive unless the site were to remove all together. If you visit the forum right now, you will fully realize how passive its efforts really are, as there is almost as many zero replies to threads as there are replies.

They're a news feature we do weekly with a bunch of news small bands have submitted in - and I do think we need to do something about featuring bands with only 1 post count in there. (And check to make sure their OTHER posts aren't just spam for their band) because now look at it - the feature went live and there's 4 new threads, one of which I know is just posting to just be spamming and seen. (I'm on a sidekick so I cannot see post count.)

[thecurerocks182]

They're a news feature we do weekly with a bunch of news small bands have submitted in - and I do think we need to do something about featuring bands with only 1 post count in there. (And check to make sure their OTHER posts aren't just spam for their band) because now look at it - the feature went live and there's 4 new threads, one of which I know is just posting to just be spamming and seen. (I'm on a sidekick so I cannot see post count.)
Thank you for taking notice in this thread I started virtually a year ago (I mean this sincerely). I concur wholeheartedely with monitoring those who post in the forum and are eligible for selection for the new feature at this website. Too many people will look at this opportunity in vested interest. I think those who are faithful to the website deserve and have proven their own determination and persevererance, and are worthy of these weekly selections. Anywho, I hope this works out well. I still think a column in the Sunday recommendations would be a more effective way drawing appeal for the forum, as it commonly generates an abundance of views and comments, but to each your own. Atleast something is being done in order to bring that portion of the site back alive (assuming it was ever active).