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evil zach
06/03/03, 10:58 AM
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0603-05.htm

BAGHDAD - Thousands of Iraqi Muslims marched through Baghdad on Tuesday, threatening violence unless U.S. troops withdraw from the country and venting their anger over body searches of women in the capital.



Iraqi men hold anti-American banners as they demonstrate against U.S. occupation and the arrest of a clergyman June 3, 2003 in Baghdad. Thousands of Iraqi Muslims marched through Baghdad Tuesday, threatening violence unless U.S. troops withdraw from the country and venting their anger over body searches of women in the capital. (Radu Sigheti/Reuters)

Many Iraqis welcomed the overthrow of president Saddam Hussein by the U.S.-led forces, but nearly eight weeks later, protests against the foreign military presence are growing and many say they want to run their country.

"We advise you to leave our country or you will make enemies out of us," said Shi'ite cleric Muaaed al-Khazraji in a speech through a loudhailer. "Please go home and we will be very grateful because you got rid of Saddam."

The protesters marched from a large mosque to the headquarters of the U.S-led administration chanting: "Down, down America! Down, down Saddam! Yes, yes for an Islamic state."

Some threatened to chop off the hands of any soldier who tried to search an Iraqi woman. Security searches are common at checkpoints in the city.

"It is unacceptable in Islam that a man searches the body of a woman. The American troops are doing that to our women," cleric Ali Baghdadi said.

The crowd carried banners and one read in English: "Saddam and America are two faces of the same coin."

"We call for setting up an Iraqi national government immediately," said Sttar Nsyyaif, 33.

On Monday, Iraq's tribal leaders also told the Americans they could face war if they did not leave soon and thousands of sacked Iraqi soldiers had swarmed angrily around the U.S. headquarters in Baghdad.

Tuesday's demonstrators, both Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims, also protested about the detention of Jasim al-Saadi, a Shi'ite cleric, who was arrested two days ago by U.S. troops and released on Tuesday.

They also criticized U.S. moves to disarm Iraqis as part of efforts to restore law and order after the war.

"We need these weapons to defend our country against the Americans and any other occupier," Nsyyaif said.

Earlier, hundreds of sacked Iraqi civil servants protested about losing their jobs after the U.S.-led civil demonstration dissolved several former government offices.

tyte emo
06/03/03, 01:03 PM
You know what else is horrible about that, that the Iraqis were anti-saddam, but now they are anti-america.

It goes back into the war protest thing. I knew back in February-March that I wasn't going to be able to change anyone's (especially the administration's) mind. But I still went out there in hopes that it would get some publicity around the world of the large demonstrations, with me just adding another face to the crowd. I did this because having lived in Thailand and traveled a bit around foreign nations, I knew of the HUGE amounts of anti-americanism and it's growth in recent years. I am American and that's the last thing I want in this world. So I tried to alleviate the anti-american sentiment instead of exacerbate it as our government was doing.

Well unfortunately it was to no avail because the Iraqi people (and people around the world) still clump all of America together. It's really too bad.

yeat182
06/03/03, 02:04 PM
""It is unacceptable in Islam that a man searches the body of a woman. The American troops are doing that to our women," cleric Ali Baghdadi said. "


too bad it is acceptable to blow yourself up, killing everyone around you in Islam...or they wouldn't need to search women.

evil zach
06/03/03, 02:06 PM
thats not execptable though....

NOFXdescendents
06/03/03, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
""It is unacceptable in Islam that a man searches the body of a woman. The American troops are doing that to our women," cleric Ali Baghdadi said. "


too bad it is acceptable to blow yourself up, killing everyone around you in Islam...or they wouldn't need to search women.

oooOooOOo

diss to the towel heads

yeat182
06/03/03, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by evil zach
thats not execptable though....

i'm just saying, they aren't searching women to be assholes, or to insult islam...they are searching them because they are in danger and must protect themselves...if they weren't allowed to search women, you know immediatly enemy forces would either hire women or disguise themsleves as women to commit their attacks...it is for the saftey of not only the soldiers but innocent bystanders as well...

BrandNewRock05
06/03/03, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by evil zach
thats not execptable though.... what happened to equality of the sexes? women are just as capable of packing heat as a man.

BrandNewRock05
06/03/03, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by cal1082
i can understand both points about the searching, what would you suggest the U.S do instead of searching them though?
get blown up and feel stupid later, yes hindsight is 20/20

yeat182
06/03/03, 03:29 PM
they are just searching them...what is the big deal?
i understand that they claim it goes against islam, but it isn't like they are strip searching all the women just to be pricks, they get patted down, they get their bags searched, they move on...not a big deal.

BrandNewRock05
06/03/03, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
they are just searching them...what is the big deal?
i understand that they claim it goes against islam, but it isn't like they are strip searching all the women just to be pricks, they get patted down, they get their bags searched, they move on...not a big deal.
no...but we should be sensitive to others cultures, even if it means putting american lives at risk....(dripping with sarcasm)

yeat182
06/03/03, 03:33 PM
well, i do think we should be sensitve, but there has to be a point were you can't be. maybe they should have Iraq's search them at the checkpoints or something, but they should definatly be searched.

BrandNewRock05
06/03/03, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by yeat182
well, i do think we should be sensitve, but there has to be a point were you can't be. maybe they should have Iraq's search them at the checkpoints or something, but they should definatly be searched.
somethings are inevitable. you have to pee in a cup for drug testing, that makes some people uncomfortable, i dont know why but i respect it, but you need to do it to test for drugs. in order to check for colon cancer, a guy has to stick his fingers in your ass, not comfortable, not enjoybale, but neccesary. just deal with it

EastCoastPunk
06/03/03, 04:26 PM
ungrateful people. sorry that those fuckers r always blowing each other up. sad

BrandNewRock05
06/03/03, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by EastCoastPunk
ungrateful people. sorry that those fuckers r always blowing each other up. sad
i am half tempted to want to let them blow each other up, sure its cruel, but they will kill off everybody there, problem solved, kill everyone. i am kidding on that comment, but sooner or later it may happen