the two that usually are in last [Archive]

IceAge/HeatWave

05/06/10, 04:03 PM

It's the better album. Daisy is a mess.

i think that was the purpose of it though- to come off desperate and reckless. and i like that much, much better than pop punk. it is much more powerful in my opinion.

Say Nothing

05/06/10, 04:05 PM

It's the better album. Daisy is a mess.

Daisy was such a desperate album, which was what made it so good.

MattDennis

05/06/10, 04:26 PM

The best songs on Daisy outshine the best that Your Favorite Weapon has to offer. It's hard not to let the nostalgia blind me though.

E. Clectic

05/06/10, 04:33 PM

YFW. Easily.
Daisy, while i do enjoy some tracks has little lasting value, especially compared to the rest of Brand New's discography.

I will force a late term abortion upon the next pregnant woman I see if Your Favorite Weapon wins this poll.

I will do the same if Daisy wins. So i guess one fetus will go unborn-ed!

danman

05/06/10, 05:07 PM

Your Favorite Weapon.

Aside from "Vices," "Gasoline," "Sink," and "Bought A Bride," I don't really like anything off Daisy. I've still yet to get sick of "Seventy Times Seven," "Failure By Design," "Logan To Government Center," "Mix Tape," and pretty much the rest of the album aside from a couple of tracks.

Neo Cassady

05/06/10, 05:14 PM

YFW. Like its successor, it's quality cover to cover. Daisy was all over the place.

frenchatticus

05/06/10, 05:28 PM

I love Your Favorite Weapon. Second favorite BN album behind Deja Entendu. To be fair, I haven't given the other two as much of a listen.

just.Starla.

05/06/10, 05:52 PM

Your Favorite Weapon.

re7ard1337

05/06/10, 05:55 PM

Daisy was so passionate in it's recklessness, although some of the lyrics seemed to be there just to fill space. Your Favorite Weapon was spectacular, but that was just a different Brand New than the one we have today. And I'd have to say I like the direction Brand New has headed.

MADSTA

05/06/10, 06:10 PM

Daisy was shitty shit.

flks511

05/06/10, 07:51 PM

Your Favorite Weapon is average. The rest of Brand New's catalogue is more than I could ever ask for.

seraph1214

05/06/10, 08:20 PM

YFW by far. I've warmed up to Daisy over time though.

vivatoto56

05/06/10, 11:42 PM

http://www.filetransit.com/images/screen/3ad980aaf71f6949e73b20a0e17a209f_Da isy_Flower_Screensaver.jpg

Kill_the_radio

05/07/10, 10:54 AM

YFW, of course.

gusta0117

05/07/10, 12:01 PM

jude law, failure by design, soco, mixtape, 70x7, and shower scene are all better tracks than anything off of Daisy

best track for me on Daisy would be Vices

jjm1

05/07/10, 03:34 PM

Yfw

Scrawns

05/07/10, 03:36 PM

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b101/Scrinny/fgts.jpg
lolbad

BornUnderPunches

05/07/10, 03:55 PM

The best songs on Daisy outshine the best that Your Favorite Weapon has to offer. It's hard not to let the nostalgia blind me though.
this. I find this decision harder than I thought it would be.

Brand-new-123

05/07/10, 07:04 PM

YFW because of The No Seatbelt Song.

Alex DiVincenzo

05/07/10, 07:23 PM

YFW is my favorite Brand New record.

-100 points

phil19

05/07/10, 07:39 PM

easily your favourite weapon. its a classic of the genre

hurryupbrett

05/08/10, 12:06 AM

YFW, no contest.

DriftingNAndOut

05/08/10, 06:53 AM

Other than no seatbelt song and 70 x 7, I can't really listen to YFW. Daisy.

Erik the Orange

05/08/10, 07:49 AM

YFW is their best album.

11:11

05/08/10, 07:57 AM

I like both more than Deja, but i picked YFW.

IceAge/HeatWave

05/08/10, 09:50 AM

I like both more than Deja, but i picked YFW.

Never thought I'd disagree with someone who has such an awesome avatar. Sadday.

11:11

05/08/10, 09:54 AM

Never thought I'd disagree with someone who has such an awesome avatar. Sadday.
Hahaha it's alright, I think I might be the only Brand New fan on here who doesn't like Deja past the first 5 songs.

DejaMe

05/08/10, 10:15 PM

Deja is overrated. Devil and God is their best album. Yes I understand the irony of this statement coming from the guy who has Deja in his username but it's the honest truth IMO.

Fringe

05/09/10, 01:17 PM

Both are good but IMO YWF was more consistent.

Toothache

05/09/10, 05:35 PM

who the hell would vote daisy?

BornUnderPunches

05/09/10, 05:39 PM

who the hell would vote daisy?
people who like it more than YFW?

IceAge/HeatWave

05/09/10, 05:48 PM

who the hell would vote daisy?

people who don't like pop punk. some of the lyrics on YFW are okay, but other than that its just shitty. i like the recklessness of daisy.

Toothache

05/09/10, 06:06 PM

people who like it more than YFW?
it was a rhetorical question.

Toothache

05/09/10, 06:07 PM

people who don't like pop punk. some of the lyrics on YFW are okay, but other than that its just shitty. i like the recklessness of daisy.
if it was so shitty then brand new wouldnt have been around long enough to make daisy, so show some respect for your dear reckless brand new.

oneletteraway

05/09/10, 07:53 PM

Daisy is a loud noisy mess. Your Favorite Weapon has great songs (Jude Law, Soco Amaretto Lime, etc.) and a sound that I really miss from them. Hard to see how Brand New can get better with every album and then drop a steaming pile of Daisy.

Auals

05/09/10, 10:36 PM

Deja is overrated. Devil and God is their best album. Yes I understand the irony of this statement coming from the guy who has Deja in his username but it's the honest truth IMO.

I thought I was the only one who thought this? I love Deja, but Devil And God is just bliss. But I think the latter two albums were better than the first two, but that's purely because I feel like the pop-punk genre is... boring. It doesn't do anything for me, minus seventy x7 and Soco Amoretta, YFW is... pointless. But Daisy, I don't even like that type of music normally and Vices, You Stole, In A Jar, Gasoline, Bought A Bride, Sink all feel more alive than anything on YFW.

This has nothing to do with the musical ability or originality of the styles, just my opinion.

Paulb-182

05/10/10, 02:49 AM

Daisy is great, YFW is on the most part very average..

IceAge/HeatWave

05/10/10, 03:37 AM

if it was so shitty then brand new wouldnt have been around long enough to make daisy, so show some respect for your dear reckless brand new.

That's a stupid point to make. A lot of bands have shitty debut albums. Brand new stuck around because the next two albums after YFW were big improvements and showed progressive development. Deja was much better than it's predecessor, and TDAG was much better than Deja. Daisy isn't quite as good as TDAG, but still in the same ballpark- a ballpark that is far removed from YFW.

Toothache

05/10/10, 04:39 AM

That's a stupid point to make. A lot of bands have shitty debut albums. Brand new stuck around because the next to albums after YFW were big improvements and showed progressive growth. Deja was much better than it's predecessor, and TDAG was much better than Deja. Daisy isn't quite as good as TDAG, but still in the same ballpark- a ballpark that is far removed from YFW.
see, the problem with that statement is that it's an opinion. so you can try all you want to prove me wrong, but in the end it's all subjective and my favorite album is stil yfw

drawndead

05/10/10, 07:46 AM

Daisy. I don't spin YFW much anymore

inthemidst

05/10/10, 08:48 AM

I will force a late term abortion upon the next pregnant woman I see if Your Favorite Weapon wins this poll.

YFW FTW

IceAge/HeatWave

05/10/10, 09:06 AM

see, the problem with that statement is that it's an opinion. so you can try all you want to prove me wrong, but in the end it's all subjective and my favorite album is stil yfw

the part about TDAG> daisy> deja>>>>>>> YFW is opinion. the part about making progress and developing from straightforward pop-punk music to the more evolved songwriting on these last three records is more or less self evident.

Toothache

05/10/10, 10:34 AM

the part about TDAG> daisy> deja>>>>>>> YFW is opinion. the part about making progress and developing from straightforward pop-punk music to the more evolved songwriting on these last three records is more or less self evident.
thats not what you were saying before. but that's moot. who's to say that their songwriting is more evolved and not just stranger or more eclectic? you gotta understand that all music is subjective because it's art and there is no concrete definition of what is and is not progress.

sleepyseanzzz

05/10/10, 12:25 PM

YFW is my favorite of all of them, i couldnt even finish daisy

Say Nothing

05/10/10, 12:43 PM

Say Nothing

05/10/10, 12:44 PM

YFW is my favorite of all of them, i couldnt even finish daisy

If you couldn't even finish an album, how are you even entitled to vote in this poll?

sleepyseanzzz

05/10/10, 12:51 PM

If you couldn't even finish an album, how are you even entitled to vote in this poll?

because i thought it was that bad. fuck you

Say Nothing

05/10/10, 01:06 PM

because i thought it was that bad. fuck you

Haha do you really have to resort to that? You can't even make a logical argument to support your opinion. Congratulations, you're a illiterate moron.

IceAge/HeatWave

05/10/10, 01:28 PM

thats not what you were saying before. but that's moot. who's to say that their songwriting is more evolved and not just stranger or more eclectic? you gotta understand that all music is subjective because it's art and there is no concrete definition of what is and is not progress.

obviously if i am saying something without beefing it up with facts it is my opinion. that should go without saying. no one is disputing that part of what i am saying is opinion. you said "how the hell could someone vote for daisy?" or something to that effect. so i am trying to explain to you how someone can vote for daisy. i don't care if the question is rhetorical or not, this site is about expressing viewpoints, and those viewpoints are best served when expanded upon.

Indoor Living

05/10/10, 02:30 PM

thats not what you were saying before. but that's moot. who's to say that their songwriting is more evolved and not just stranger or more eclectic? you gotta understand that all music is subjective because it's art and there is no concrete definition of what is and is not progress.
So let's just say after they made 'Millennium,' the Backstreet Boys decided to make 'Born To Run.' Chronologically, I'm aware, this is incorrect. However, you wouldn't classify this as progress at all? At all? Music is about 90% subjective, 10% have some common sense.

EDIT: A lot of people in here are using the 'desperate, reckless' argument on Daisy that emit remmus used in like the third post. Makes me wonder how many people are just copying him to seem smart.

Indoor Living

05/10/10, 02:32 PM

Haha do you really have to resort to that? You can't even make a logical argument to support your opinion. Congratulations, you're a illiterate moron.
How is that in any way not a logical argument? Don't be a moron, seriously.

sleepyseanzzz

05/10/10, 02:38 PM

Haha do you really have to resort to that? You can't even make a logical argument to support your opinion. Congratulations, you're a illiterate moron.

ironic

Toothache

05/10/10, 05:52 PM

obviously if i am saying something without beefing it up with facts it is my opinion. that should go without saying. no one is disputing that part of what i am saying is opinion. you said "how the hell could someone vote for daisy?" or something to that effect. so i am trying to explain to you how someone can vote for daisy. i don't care if the question is rhetorical or not, this site is about expressing viewpoints, and those viewpoints are best served when expanded upon.
i didn't ask for your viewpoint.

IceAge/HeatWave

05/10/10, 09:01 PM

i didn't ask for your viewpoint.

i didn't ask for you to comment on a poll i created, but you did. and seeing as it is my poll, i feel i have more than the right to quote and comment on anyone's post related to the question at hand whenever i fuckin feel like it.

IceAge/HeatWave

05/10/10, 09:03 PM

So let's just say after they made 'Millennium,' the Backstreet Boys decided to make 'Born To Run.' Chronologically, I'm aware, this is incorrect. However, you wouldn't classify this as progress at all? At all? Music is about 90% subjective, 10% have some common sense.

EDIT: A lot of people in here are using the 'desperate, reckless' argument on Daisy that emit remmus used in like the third post. Makes me wonder how many people are just copying him to seem smart.

i'm wondering if this is a compliment, insult, or just an observation i'm reading too far into haha

Say Nothing

05/10/10, 09:16 PM

ironic

touche, missed that one

Say Nothing

05/10/10, 09:17 PM

How is that in any way not a logical argument? Don't be a moron, seriously.

You gave no logical opinion towards myself. You simply said "fuck you".

Say Nothing

05/10/10, 09:20 PM

So let's just say after they made 'Millennium,' the Backstreet Boys decided to make 'Born To Run.' Chronologically, I'm aware, this is incorrect. However, you wouldn't classify this as progress at all? At all? Music is about 90% subjective, 10% have some common sense.

EDIT: A lot of people in here are using the 'desperate, reckless' argument on Daisy that emit remmus used in like the third post. Makes me wonder how many people are just copying him to seem smart.

That argument is easily seen if you listen to all of Daisy (which you haven't). It resembles a Nirvana-esque sound, which again is very "desperate" and "reckless". You can hear the desperation in both Jesse's vocal shrieks and chilling whispers.

Indoor Living

05/10/10, 10:12 PM

i'm wondering if this is a compliment, insult, or just an observation i'm reading too far into haha

Haha, no, compliment towards you. I notice your posts (most of the time) are sensible and good.

You gave no logical opinion towards myself. You simply said "fuck you".

First of all, it wasn't me. Secondly, did you read the first sentence of his post? If not, go back and check it out. It was his opinion.

That argument is easily seen if you listen to all of Daisy (which you haven't). It resembles a Nirvana-esque sound, which again is very "desperate" and "reckless". You can hear the desperation in both Jesse's vocal shrieks and chilling whispers.

Seriously, you're such an idiot. Brand New is a great band that I listen to frequently. I wasn't saying that everyone calling it 'desperate' and 'reckless' was wrong. Please learn how to read before you get defensive and irrational. Come on, dude.

EDIT: Listen to your username before you post impulsively.

Toothache

05/10/10, 10:35 PM

i didn't ask for you to comment on a poll i created, but you did. and seeing as it is my poll, i feel i have more than the right to quote and comment on anyone's post related to the question at hand whenever i fuckin feel like it.
see this is where it gets awkward because i didnt realize you made this poll lol my b

IceAge/HeatWave

05/11/10, 03:51 AM

see this is where it gets awkward because i didnt realize you made this poll lol my b

It's cool brother let's just walk away :)

ChelseaRiane

05/11/10, 06:21 AM

Not gonna lie, that was a hard choice. Bring on the attacks

Say Nothing

05/11/10, 07:47 AM

Haha, no, compliment towards you. I notice your posts (most of the time) are sensible and good.

First of all, it wasn't me. Secondly, did you read the first sentence of his post? If not, go back and check it out. It was his opinion.

Seriously, you're such an idiot. Brand New is a great band that I listen to frequently. I wasn't saying that everyone calling it 'desperate' and 'reckless' was wrong. Please learn how to read before you get defensive and irrational. Come on, dude.

EDIT: Listen to your username before you post impulsively.
Dude, I got you mixed up with sleepyseanzz. My bad brother, he said he had never finished Daisy, as well resorted to the "fuck you" response. So yes, I was idiocy to direct both statements towards you.

billyboatkid

05/11/10, 09:11 AM

Daisy.

Love Brand New to death, but I'm not 18 anymore. Most of those songs I haven't even listened to in at least 2 years.

Kurt Retenauer

05/11/10, 10:19 AM

spansen

05/11/10, 12:12 PM

daisy. i think they keep getting better.. so to vote their first with their last record is an easy argument.

ihaveblink

05/11/10, 06:33 PM

I liked Daisy, loved YFW

Tristan Needler

05/11/10, 06:39 PM

Your Favorite Weapon easily. It's a great album, Daisy is not. Simple.

HometownHero

05/11/10, 11:09 PM

This should not be this close. YFW is clearly the better. Just for the versatility within it and the fact it lead up to my personal favorite. The fast pop-punk goodness of it mixed with the slow, dreary, sometimes acoustic ballad.. Daisy can't come close.

Daisy is much more urgent (as it has been said) and reckless. Neither are fantastic albums. The middle two are the best and TDAGARIM is the best. The end

JGood4

05/12/10, 02:47 AM

Your Favorite Weapon is the only Brand New album I like.

ChelseaRiane

05/12/10, 05:43 AM

I need to listen to Daisy again

xsandwichesx

05/12/10, 08:21 AM

Soo many Brand New threads...

God damner

05/12/10, 05:23 PM

Daisy.

xjulianx89

05/12/10, 08:51 PM

Daisy is pretty much garbage.

I'm not big on Your Favorite Weapon, but I would much rather listen to it than Daisy.

Steeeve Perry

05/12/10, 09:16 PM

mrchainsaw90

05/13/10, 12:28 AM

Your Favorite Weapon wins hands down with me. Old Brand New is the Best!!!

mymusicismylife

05/13/10, 10:18 AM

Daisy.

bowl of oranges

05/13/10, 12:41 PM

TDAGARIM > Deja > Daisy > YFW

Hagysaurus Rex

05/13/10, 07:22 PM

You talking which album is my personal favorite or which album is better? Those are two completely different questions, mate. Which is "better" is Daisy without question. Much more complex songwriting, song structuring, layering of instruments, and the technicality is through the roof. But, which album is my "favorite" of the two is YFW. I'd spin that album any day of the week whereas I have to be in a certain mood to get into Daisy, but that doesn't make it the better album at all.

/overly long answer to simple question

kbi the crowing

05/15/10, 05:32 AM

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b101/Scrinny/fgts.jpg
lolbad

hahahaha harsh

Daisy for me; I usually only like to listen to Your Favorite Weapon when I'm cleaning or something.

kbi the crowing

05/15/10, 05:33 AM

IceAge/HeatWave

05/15/10, 04:34 PM

Daisy. Devil and God is their peak imo. Daisy v Deja would be a closer battle for second than Daisy v YFW. There are so many other bands who could/can/will do YFW; far fewer (not saying "none") who could/can/will do Daisy.

yeah. but the name of the thread is the two that are usually in last- i got it because in the "favorite br& new album" polls, these two are always way way way far back. it wasn't a poll for which album is the second best, it is more a survey of which album AP fans like more/ think is better.

xtheaudition

05/15/10, 10:40 PM

YFW!
ive never even listened to daisy

Spenny

05/17/10, 10:30 PM

YFW by a mile.
I still think that Daisy, while not bad, is easily their weakest album.

zachff

05/18/10, 11:15 AM

YFW is a great album. Daisy is awesome in its own right, but YFW is just better.

zachff

05/18/10, 11:15 AM

YFW!
ive never even listened to daisy
Then how can you have an informed opinion?

xtheaudition

05/18/10, 11:34 AM

Then how can you have an informed opinion?
instinct.

zachff

05/18/10, 11:35 AM

instinct.
Not going to lie, you lost a lot of respect (maybe "cred" is a better word) when you said you'd never listened to Daisy but automatically liked YFW better.

xtheaudition

05/18/10, 12:26 PM

Not going to lie, you lost a lot of respect (maybe "cred" is a better word) when you said you'd never listened to Daisy but automatically liked YFW better.
yup. i grew up with YFW, i didn't with daisy, nor do i care to listen to it.

IceAge/HeatWave

05/18/10, 02:25 PM

yup. i grew up with YFW, i didn't with daisy, nor do i care to listen to it.

if i used that logic, i would listen to very few albums.

xtheaudition

05/18/10, 02:28 PM

if i used that logic, i would listen to very few albums.
i have 1,000+ albums on my itunes

:shrug:

Theseventhson

05/18/10, 02:53 PM

Daisy, because I'm no longer 14.

IceAge/HeatWave

05/18/10, 09:03 PM

i have 1,000+ albums on my itunes

:shrug:

but you didn't grow up on 1,000 albums.

InvisibleImage

05/18/10, 09:17 PM

Daisy. Devil and God is their peak imo. Daisy v Deja would be a closer battle for second than Daisy v YFW. There are so many other bands who could/can/will do YFW; far fewer (not saying "none") who could/can/will do Daisy.
Daisy, because I'm no longer 14.
this...too many bands have the "YFW" sound nowadays. Also, I am not the same person i was when YFW came out, the songs dont appeal to me as much anymore as they did back then. Daisy is more original and creative, I enjoy it more and think its a better album.

xapplexpiex

05/18/10, 09:28 PM

YFW. This is such a hard poll for me. They're both great, but in different ways.

RiCCioLi

05/18/10, 10:10 PM

you stole is by far the best BN song so i had to go w/ daisy. but you are comparing two totally different styled albums here

Ryan Rumsey

05/18/10, 11:38 PM

Daisy just didnt do it for me.

These are def my least favorite albums.

xtheaudition

05/19/10, 01:54 AM

but you didn't grow up on 1,000 albums.
yes i did.

IceAge/HeatWave

05/19/10, 02:04 PM

yes i did.

then it makes no sense that you can't at least listen to daisy. because you know how you end up with over 1,000 albums on itunes? you try new records.

IceAge/HeatWave

05/19/10, 02:07 PM

you stole is by far the best BN song so i had to go w/ daisy. but you are comparing two totally different styled albums here

i've said it before in here, but i understand where one would not want to read 7+ pages of replies so its all good- i'm trying to get a feel for which album people prefer out of the two that usually come in last in the "favorite brand new cd" poll. i wanted to see how TDAG and deja voters would split.