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saofan_315
05/09/10, 11:20 PM
So I've been watching on and off this new series on the History Channel basically trying to create a crash course in American history over the span of a short mini series. I'm a US History major so I can follow along pretty well with the series, especially the more toward the modern era it gets. I just got done watching the episode on the American Civil War and I have a lot to say about it. Granted, I realize that The History Channel only had an hour to cover then entire Civil War, which in itself is nearly impossible to do. They did a lot of things right and covered a lot of important parts on the war, but as I was watching it I couldn't help but notice all of the spots where the series either skipped over or got their history incorrect on. I came up with a pretty good sized list of problems I had with the Civil War episode in particular, but I wanted to know if other people are into watching this series and what they think of the series, as well as what they think of the comments I have to make on it.

Problems:

1. You can't have a Civil War program and NOT mention Ulysses S. Grant at least once.

2. Sherman kicked all people out of Atlanta. They did not evacuate willingly.

3. You failed to mention that the Emancipation Proclamation (EP) did not free the slaves still in the Union (yes, there were slaves in the Union. Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, and Missouri.

4. The EP only freed the slaves in the South that were under Union control. In other words, it only applied to as far as it could be enforced in the South.

5. There was NO mention of the Union naval blockade or even the overarching military strategy to the war, which was CRUCIAL to the ultimate surrender of the Confederate Army.

6. Lincoln was not so set on emancipating slaves. He stated publicly on numerous occasions that he would free none, some, or all of the slaves as long as it would win him the war.

but my biggest problem:

The Civil War did not display the country's industrial growth and serve as proof for the economic system which was in place. Yes, it was the North's far superior production system which won the war for them, but if the South hadn't been so damn set on growing cotton for the entire ... See More (http://www.absolutepunk.net/)world, then slavery would have been no longer needed and the war avoided.

Let me tell you a little story about the South's cotton industry. It takes a MASSIVE labor force to do grueling and inhumane labor in order to produce cotton on such massive scales (in the 19th Century I'm talking about). This need was supplied by slavery. If the focus of the American people was farming for sustenance and use and not for profit, this labor force would not have been needed and eventually slavery would have ended on its own, most likely well before the Civil War came around in the mid 19th Century. Therefore, it was the country's own economic system (well, particularity the focus the South had in it) that ultimately led to most of the problems which caused the war in the first place. Did the History Channel mention ANY of this? No, not really.


So this came out to be pretty lengthy and kudos to anyone who reads it, but I'm just interested in hearing what people have to say about it.

bluecrunchy
05/09/10, 11:37 PM
Yeah, this series has been really disappointing so far. Trying to compress so much information into 2 hour increments just doesn't work very well. The whole thing just seems unfocused.

pnkhrdwndr
05/10/10, 08:17 AM
I know nothing of this program but it makes us sound way more arrogant than we are

saofan_315
05/10/10, 10:45 AM
They've definitely taken interviews with people and placed them into contexts along the timeline which they were not intended for.

Once the program got to Western expansion, I couldn't watch any more because there's no way they'd actually tell the truth of how we really took all of the land East of the Appalachians.

MyNameIsRoss
05/10/10, 11:30 AM
history channel sucks

flask
05/10/10, 11:34 AM
They've definitely taken interviews with people and placed them into contexts along the timeline which they were not intended for.

Once the program got to Western expansion, I couldn't watch any more because there's no way they'd actually tell the truth of how we really took all of the land East of the Appalachians.

by killing the godless heathens!

saofan_315
05/10/10, 02:11 PM
They deserved it, didn't they? I mean, if they were a civilized culture worthy of being seen as equals they wouldn't have lived in movable huts and lived in a capitalist, free trading society, right?

katyara
05/10/10, 07:36 PM
history channel sucks

All that's ever on now is shit like Ice Road Truckers and Pawn Shop Warriors or whatever. Not saying they're bad shows, but if I want lame reality I'll watch A&E or vh1.

saofan_315
05/10/10, 07:55 PM
I actually don't mind the Pawn Stars show. It does a good job imo of covering different parts of popular history. The Ice truckers and logging shows all blow big time though.

Kapa73
05/10/10, 08:17 PM
saw two minutes of this and immediately turned it off after I overhead one the dramatic actors mumble a number of anachronisms during a civil war recreation

chasingsafety
05/10/10, 08:27 PM
I actually don't mind the Pawn Stars show. It does a good job imo of covering different parts of popular history. The Ice truckers and logging shows all blow big time though.

this. i find myself getitnga little sucked into pawn stars (prob because i have a soft spot for antiques roadshow) but yea ice trucekrs and logging are such piles of crap. i cringe when i pop on history only to see a truck whiz by. annndd channel change

schaft
05/17/10, 07:05 PM
Yeah, this series has been really disappointing so far. Trying to compress so much information into 2 hour increments just doesn't work very well. The whole thing just seems unfocused.
This.

But overall, I still find it entertaining. Maybe not so historically accurate, but entertaining at least. I'm interested to see how the last 50 or so years are covered.

And Pawn Stars is definitely a guilty pleasure of mine. It's like Antiques Roadshow hosted by greedy assholes.

fightinirish217
05/30/10, 01:35 PM
I'm a history major and this is on right now. It is so tough to compile all this information in one hour shows but I've found it pretty enjoyable so far.

Edit: Some of these guest appearances are very questionable, in particular, Sheryl Crow and Martha Stewart? lolwut?

Also, the visuals and re-creations are great IMO. I loved the railroad one showing the expansion and creation of towns and the building of the Statue of Liberty.