Suicide

[inspirefate]

Lately, I've been thinking a lot about suicide and ways of killing myself and how my letters will play out. I've been writing poems on how i've been feeling lately. I called one suicide selfish and while i was writing it , the morning announcements came on talking about suicide prevention and the hotline. Is this a sign to kill myself or to stay here?

[catherinexhimel]

Call 1-800-suicide. Seriously.

[tidalwave]

listen to Swim by Jack's Mannequin <3

really, I cant say much on this topic. Everyone's always felt like giving up at some point, but its nothing i could ever do.
Life's worth living. ups and downs.

[SophomoricSlump]

It's a sign to stay, you should definitely call that hotline.
Keep venting through poetry, that always helps me when I'm feeling depressed or in a rut, just find something to pinpoint and explode.

[Mibabalou]

Lately, I've been thinking a lot about suicide and ways of killing myself and how my letters will play out. I've been writing poems on how i've been feeling lately. I called one suicide selfish and while i was writing it , the morning announcements came on talking about suicide prevention and the hotline. Is this a sign to kill myself or to stay here?

dont do something crazy, the world is a beautiful place

[phil19]

suicide isnt painless when it leaves everyone else in pain

[matt_bergeron]

Call 1-800-suicide. Seriously.


agreed man.

[yayitsjoe]

simply don't do it, there realy is an upside to everything. i suggest calling that hotline, and just staying calm. enjoy every single beautiful thing in life.

[zachff]

Don't kill yourself man, it's not the answer.

[jeremyc]

Call 1-800-suicide. Seriously.

A incredibly valuable resource. Not sure why these thoughts are in your head or what the motive is, but the best advice I could offer you is focus on a talent you have and do whatever you can to master that craft. Even if you think you're talentless (everyone has something killer to offer the world), determination beats the shit out of depression, a broken heart, etc. Keep your head up and call that hotline if needed.

[superdork]

Definitely call the hotline; about 2 years ago I was going through some rough times, and had considered suicide. But clearly, I didn't go through with it. I told someone, got help and now, even though things aren't perfect always, I realize that it's all gonna be worth it.

[xapplexpiex]

Lately, I've been thinking a lot about suicide and ways of killing myself and how my letters will play out. I've been writing poems on how i've been feeling lately. I called one suicide selfish and while i was writing it , the morning announcements came on talking about suicide prevention and the hotline. Is this a sign to kill myself or to stay here?
Take it as a sign to stay. We only live once, so why take it away from yourself so fast? If you need anyone to talk to, send me a message. I promise I'll respond. I was actually in your position a few months ago. And yeah, writing is a great outlet. I write mostly short stories and it's a great way to relieve strees, anxiety, etc.

[shboom.]

suicide isnt painless when it leaves everyone else in pain

thisthisthisthisthis. the one reason i didn't in junior high was because i could never do that to my mother.

please reach out and ask for more than a sign. please ask for help. call a hotline, go to a group, call a friend or send me a message. life should not be so miserable that you WANT it to end. we're still young and there's a lot of life left to enjoy.

[catherinexhimel]

A incredibly valuable resource. Not sure why these thoughts are in your head or what the motive is, but the best advice I could offer you is focus on a talent you have and do whatever you can to master that craft. Even if you think you're talentless (everyone has something killer to offer the world), determination beats the shit out of depression, a broken heart, etc. Keep your head up and call that hotline if needed.

Definitely. I called them last year and a woman talked to me for three and a half hours straight. It was one of the most meaningful conversations I've ever had.

[SincerelyMe]

Choose life. It's a lot less permanent.

[bung]

Life is beautiful, death is immaculate.

[phil19]

thisthisthisthisthis. the one reason i didn't in junior high was because i could never do that to my mother.

please reach out and ask for more than a sign. please ask for help. call a hotline, go to a group, call a friend or send me a message. life should not be so miserable that you WANT it to end. we're still young and there's a lot of life left to enjoy.

my mates dad offed himself and the pain ive seen my mate and his family go through is just terrible.

[Nick Le]

Don't kill yourself, your life is worth living. Take the others' advice in here and call the hotline if you think you need to.

ps: I'm glad people have been answering this seriously... since it is PL afterall.

[nicwtor]

I've dealt with anxiety for a large portion of my life which has caused phases of depression and suicidal thoughts. There have been nights where I've wanted to just go and drive my car off a bridge and end everything. However, everything changes. The next morning I realize how dumb it would've been. Although it may not be as quick as that, things will change. Everything changes over time and your feelings of depression will soon be replaced with feelings of happiness and satisfaction with your life.

[shboom.]

my mates dad offed himself and the pain ive seen my mate and his family go through is just terrible.

my cousin did about three years ago...she had two daughters aged 5 and 10 at the time. even though i didn't know her well, it's still the single biggest pain i've ever experienced.

[bNz719]

Choose life. It's a lot less permanent.

This. Well said.

[phil19]

my cousin did about three years ago...she had two daughters aged 5 and 10 at the time. even though i didn't know her well, it's still the single biggest pain i've ever experienced.

yeah, i dont think people realise just how painful it is to those that care about them. and there is always someone who cares

[shboom.]

yeah, i dont think people realise just how painful it is to those that care about them. and there is always someone who cares

always.

[xapplexpiex]

yeah, i dont think people realise just how painful it is to those that care about them. and there is always someone who cares
I always hear you shouldn't tell a suicidal not to do it because it will hurt other people. It just makes them feel even worse, ya know?

[phil19]

I always hear you shouldn't tell a suicidal not to do it because it will hurt other people. It just makes them feel even worse, ya know?

maybe you're right. im no expert. that was not my intention however

[bNz719]

it's not intended to hurt the person, but yeah, i guess they can misconstrue that if they really try to.
seems like suicidal people close themselves off somewhat and dont realize the suffering that will come of it.

[vivatoto56]

Why don't you beg for attention by starting a thread on absolutepunk.

...Oh wait.

[mymusicismylife]

Get some help man. Those too much beauty in this world, and suicide is the selfish way out.

[11:11]

Seems to me that if you're asking us if it's a sign or not, you subconsciously don't really want to go. Call the hotline and stick around, because life is beautiful.

[xapplexpiex]

maybe you're right. im no expert. that was not my intention however
No, you're right. It does cause pain to the family. But I just think that's not the best argument to give the suicidal.

[phil19]

No, you're right. It does cause pain to the family. But I just think that's not the best argument to give the suicidal.

i will remain quiet then

[HopingDestiny]

There are a lot of people around me who are going through much worse than you. But I don't see them killing themselves since its not the solution to your porblems. Everyone goes through a time like this. You might think that there is nothing to live to for but trust me there is. You just have to wait. At least think about your close ones before doing such a thing and what they'll go through after seeing your dead body.

[maxvsmaradona]

do a barrel roll.

[mymomsapanda]

i went through about two months of the worst depression and i often contemplated killing myself. but somehow i grew out of it, i kept looking on the upsides on life. life is worth it. whatever you're going through now, you will get through, it just takes time. everything after will be worth it. dont throw your life away. this feeling is only temporary, no matter how painful it is. life is precious, death isn't.

[D' Evils]

In all seriousness don't do it man. My dad committed suicide 7 years back and you have no idea what pain you leave everyone in after your gone, its not worth it. Life will always get better, depression doesn't last forever.

[vivatoto56]

Whenever you are thinking about suicide you should masturbate.

You'll probably feel better.

[Yellowcard2006]

Lately, I've been thinking a lot about suicide and ways of killing myself and how my letters will play out. I've been writing poems on how i've been feeling lately. I called one suicide selfish and while i was writing it , the morning announcements came on talking about suicide prevention and the hotline. Is this a sign to kill myself or to stay here?
Don't do it, you have so much to live for.

[Avalanche1]

Listen to The Upsides.

rMSDJToj5Xs

[SincerelyMe]

Listen to The Upsides.

3O0sdkoQd18

This. Yeah.

[AndrewIcex]

Why die when you can live? Plenty of people have lived great lives... why can't you be one of them?

[danielineffigy]

I'd kill myself too if my last name was... COMBS!

In other words, don't do it.

[bung]

"The thought of suicide is a great consolation: by means of it one gets successfully through many a bad night."

-Nietzsche

[etheritcher]

stay. things always have a way of turning around. :)

[Alex_Weiland]

Lately, I've been thinking a lot about suicide and ways of killing myself and how my letters will play out. I've been writing poems on how i've been feeling lately. I called one suicide selfish and while i was writing it , the morning announcements came on talking about suicide prevention and the hotline. Is this a sign to kill myself or to stay here?

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[Mirrors Shatter]

do a barrel roll.

This made me laugh so much.

[Mandee, darling]

Please call the hotline. There are so many people in this world that care so much and deeply about you, including those you don't normally talk to or know. To be honest I've had those thoughts, and sometimes I still do, but I remind myself every day that there is a life out there worth experiencing, a life worth living.

There are people out there who would be more than willing to lend an ear and talk to when you need it, all you have to do is reach out. I know it may seem difficult but in the end it's worth it. Take the announcement as a sign to stay, a sign of hope, or as a second chance. I hope all goes well for you.

[kerropi]

There are people out there fighting for thier lives, and suffering major illnesses and you are here willingly ready to throw in the towel so to say.
Sorry for whatever your going through, but look at it from the perspective that I am talking about. I have to throw that in being a nursing student and an individual who suffers from major health issues, but you just have to be strong and keep pushing through, could be a lot worse.

[ari telescope]

yeah, i dont think people realise just how painful it is to those that care about them. and there is always someone who cares
A lot of someone's. It's hard to see and even imagine when you're in the state you're in, but try opening up and letting others in. You'll be surprised when you actually take a look at people around you and see there are those who care and worry about you, even though you think you hide it pretty well. I promise, there are people in your life who are already concerned about you and just don't know how to come out and say it. Take a look. Let them in.

And keep living, I swear you can take control of where your life is headed and make things good again.

[maxvsmaradona]

This made me laugh so much.

;-)

[oddlefty]

listen to Swim by Jack's Mannequin <3



agreed.
here's the video for it :]
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[atticus18244fss]

do a barrel roll.
Well done sir

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/405/original/barrel_roll.jpg

[anthonydarko]

Dude, you're young. You have a whole life ahead of you, don't throw it away so soon because of whatever temporary problems you have now.

[de1337ed]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a7jkcMVp5Vg/S-q4L528cII/AAAAAAAALzc/4lcbXuGN6T8/s1600/Birthday.jpg

from this weeks postsecret. stay strong man.

[introduction]

suicide is the most selfish thing you could possibly do.

[zion the lion]

suicide isnt painless when it leaves everyone else in pain

I fully thought you were going to do the song

"suicide is painless, it brings on many changes..."

but you didnt

[zion the lion]

suicide is the most selfish thing you could possibly do.

I absolutely and wholeheartedly hate when people say this.

[SincerelyMe]

I absolutely and wholeheartedly hate when people say this.

Backed. It makes me so mad when people say that.

[phil19]

I fully thought you were going to do the song

"suicide is painless, it brings on many changes..."

but you didnt

what song is that?

[zion the lion]

Backed. It makes me so mad when people say that.

You never know whats going on inside of people, how horribly they might be tormented by their inner problems, and theres so many different circumstances...I hate that generalization I just hate it.

what song is that?

Its the mash theme song.

[phil19]

You never know whats going on inside of people, how horribly they might be tormented by their inner problems, and theres so many different circumstances...I hate that generalization I just hate it.



Its the mash theme song.

oh really? good show

[SincerelyMe]

You never know whats going on inside of people, how horribly they might be tormented by their inner problems, and theres so many different circumstances...I hate that generalization I just hate it.

I completely agree. I also think it would be selfish of the people asking them to stay (not that I'm promoting suicide by any means) for their own benefit or because they'd be sad if they died. My thoughts on this are so scattered, it's kind of had to explain.

[introduction]

I absolutely and wholeheartedly hate when people say this.

and i absolutely and wholeheartedly hate it when people disagree. there's nothing unselfish about suicide, except in the very rarest cases. it causes a huge amount of pain to everyone around you. there's nothing worse than seeing someone kill themselves, and then watching as it slowly kills everyone who loved them, and they're stuck for the rest of their lives, wondering if they could have done something to help, or if it's their fault, or whatever. a lot of the time, one suicide leads to more. there's nothing worse, believe me, i know.

[drevans18]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_a7jkcMVp5Vg/S-q4L528cII/AAAAAAAALzc/4lcbXuGN6T8/s1600/Birthday.jpg

from this weeks postsecret. stay strong man.

wow. this.

[bung]

and i absolutely and wholeheartedly hate it when people disagree. there's nothing unselfish about suicide, except in the very rarest cases. it causes a huge amount of pain to everyone around you. there's nothing worse than seeing someone kill themselves, and then watching as it slowly kills everyone who loved them, and they're stuck for the rest of their lives, wondering if they could have done something to help, or if it's their fault, or whatever. a lot of the time, one suicide leads to more. there's nothing worse, believe me, i know.

I bet the person you know who chose to kill them self could think of a worse pain.

[zion the lion]

and i absolutely and wholeheartedly hate it when people disagree. there's nothing unselfish about suicide, except in the very rarest cases. it causes a huge amount of pain to everyone around you. there's nothing worse than seeing someone kill themselves, and then watching as it slowly kills everyone who loved them, and they're stuck for the rest of their lives, wondering if they could have done something to help, or if it's their fault, or whatever. a lot of the time, one suicide leads to more. there's nothing worse, believe me, i know.

you'd rather have someone be depressed and bitter and tormented (by everything that makes them want to kill themselves) for the rest of their lives just so that you dont feel guilty and so that you dont have to deal with the fact that they were unhappy and there was nothing you could do about it? Watching them go for the rest of their lives faking every smile for every picture or faking all of the "happy" emotions around you because they know you just cant handle the fact that they want to leave? Thats fucking selfish and believe me, I know.

[Cøltøn]

Listen to The Upsides.

rMSDJToj5Xs
Came in to post this. This record helped me through some stuff.

[i_am_sexy]

you're only 18, you have quite the life ahead of you I'm assuming.
so stay

[letitenfoldyou]

Things can always get better. If you feel like you're a rock bottom now, you've still got foundations to build on. You're young mate, life is a long old journey that you only get one of - make the most of it, take pleasure in the little things, and remember that (even if it may not seem like it at times) there's always someone who loves you, and that you make up part of their life that makes it worthwhile for themselves to be around.

[NEWFOUNDMATT]

listen to alk3 matt skiba knows what up with all this kinda shit

[Fullblast 2.0]

Just kill yourself and get over with your shitty life.

[ayerock]

Just kill yourself and get over with your shitty life.

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[The Indigo]

Can we put an end to the song recommendations, guys? They're really dumb.

[xapplexpiex]

Came in to post this. This record helped me through some stuff.
Same here. It's like the writer read my mind.

[Avalanche1]

Can we put an end to the song recommendations, guys? They're really dumb.

You're really dumb.

[live.]

Things will look up, buddy. Come back and talk to us.

[The Indigo]

You're really dumb.
I'm just saying there's a kid in here legit thinking about self-harm and there are people who actually seem to think listening to Jack's Mannequin and whatever other shitty scene albums were recced in here will save his life. It shows a glaring ignorance to the nature of depression.

[Avalanche1]

I'm just saying there's a kid in here legit thinking about self-harm and there are people who actually seem to think listening to Jack's Mannequin and whatever other shitty scene albums were recced in here will save his life. It shows a glaring ignorance to the nature of depression.

Music is a powerful tool.

[The Indigo]

Music is a powerful tool.
Remember that ignorance I was talking about? :wave:

If the kid is legitimately considering killing himself, he may have a major mental disorder. Jack's Mannequin will not stop someone with BPD from killing themselves.

[Avalanche1]

Remember that ignorance I was talking about? :wave:

If the kid is legitimately considering killing himself, he may have a major mental disorder. Jack's Mannequin will not stop someone with BPD from killing themselves.

Oh, I didn't know you were an expert in suicide help/prevention. You're right, music can't help anyone's problems.

[The Indigo]

Oh, I didn't know you were an expert in suicide help/prevention. You're right, music can't help anyone's problems.
You don't have to be an expert to know that professional counseling/medication is a more reliable route than Jack's Mannequin.

[Avalanche1]

You don't have to be an expert to know that professional counseling/medication is a more reliable route than Jack's Mannequin.

Yea, which has been suggested numerous times already in this thread. People are suggesting other things to help. It's not necessary for every single post to be telling him to go to therapy and get help.

[The Indigo]

Yea, which has been suggested numerous times already in this thread. People are suggesting other things to help. It's not necessary for every single post to be telling him to go to therapy and get help.
So you know music isn't what the kid needs right now, so why are you being argumentative exactly?

[aimee<3]

Choose life. It's a lot less permanent.

this^^

[terror_91]

So you know music isn't what the kid needs right now, so why are you being argumentative exactly?
Where does he say that?

Oh wait, he doesn't. The person is suggesting something other what's been suggested already. Is listening to some music going to harm him? I don't know but I'm sure you will pretend you know so let's hear some of your fantastic wisdom.

[The Indigo]

Where does he say that?

Oh wait, he doesn't. The person isn't suggesting something other what's been suggested already. Is listening to some music going to harm him? I don't know but I'm sure you will pretend you know so let's hear some of your fantastic wisdom.
My point is it's a pointless suggestion. No, music is going to harm him, but it's not going to help him if he really has an issue. To even consider some shitty scene album to be worth mentioning in the topic of suicide prevention is just really, really silly.

[Alex DiVincenzo]

You've got your whole life ahead of you. Keep your head up; things will get better. Call that hotline please. They will help.

[The Indigo]

OP, if you have truly been thinking about suicide constantly, it probably means you suffer from some kind of disorder (my guess is depressive disorder of bipolar disorder) and you're going through an episode. You need to talk to a professional, one who can recommend you to a behavioral health center where you can be evaluated. This isn't the kind of thing you can always get through with just positive thinking. Music cannot mend a broken mind. The suicide hotline can help in times of crisis, but please get evaluated. If you really have a disorder, it's very dangerous to go to untreated. Get help, man.

[terror_91]

My point is it's a pointless suggestion. No, music is going to harm him, but it's not going to help him if he really has an issue. To even consider some shitty scene album to be worth mentioning in the topic of suicide prevention is just really, really silly.
I'm going to assume you meant isn't.

First of all, just because you dislike the music doesn't mean it is worthless. There are a lot of people who consider it great music. I'm sure you will find people who say that it helped them massively. Just because you are some little judgemental twat who likes to think he knows better doesn't make that true.

What if music helped him express his feelings? What if he listens to it and thinks "wow, I really understand what this person is saying"? There are a shit load of people who have used music (listening and creating) to get over things. My Dinosaur Life by MCS pops into my head. A lot of the lyrics are about the leader singer overcoming his addictions. That's not the same as suicide but it proves my point.

TL;DR: You are a tool.

[Ollie McKraut]

OP, if you have truly been thinking about suicide constantly, it probably means you suffer from some kind of disorder (my guess is depressive disorder of bipolar disorder) and you're going through an episode. You need to talk to a professional, one who can recommend you to a behavioral health center where you can be evaluated. This isn't the kind of thing you can always get through with just positive thinking. Music cannot mend a broken mind. The suicide hotline can help in times of crisis, but please get evaluated. If you really have a disorder, it's very dangerous to go to untreated. Get help, man.

This, just make sure you're pretty well insured because medical consultation and treatment (especially in the chronic disorder department) will cost an arm and a leg. If you're on a budget maybe a good punk record will get you through to the next cycle.

[MyNameIsRoss]

you can't kill yourself dude, that's not an option. you have to keep pressing on, it affects your family/friends more than you don't forget that.

[The Indigo]

I'm going to assume you meant isn't.

First of all, just because you dislike the music doesn't mean it is worthless. There are a lot of people who consider it great music. I'm sure you will find people who say that it helped them massively. Just because you are some little judgemental twat who likes to think he knows better doesn't make that true.

What if music helped him express his feelings? What if he listens to it and thinks "wow, I really understand what this person is saying"? There are a shit load of people who have used music (listening and creating) to get over things. My Dinosaur Life by MCS pops into my head. A lot of the lyrics are about the leader singer overcoming his addictions. That's not the same as suicide but it proves my point.

TL;DR: You are a tool.
Dude, it has nothing to do with whether I like the music or not (I don't, but whatever). If this kid is really thinking about suicide on a constant basis, music isn't going to help him. It sounds to me like he's having a major depressive episode. You're really oversimplifying how serious mental disorders are. It's incredibly ignorant.

[superdork]

and i absolutely and wholeheartedly hate it when people disagree. there's nothing unselfish about suicide, except in the very rarest cases. it causes a huge amount of pain to everyone around you. there's nothing worse than seeing someone kill themselves, and then watching as it slowly kills everyone who loved them, and they're stuck for the rest of their lives, wondering if they could have done something to help, or if it's their fault, or whatever. a lot of the time, one suicide leads to more. there's nothing worse, believe me, i know.

Suicide is usually seen as a last resort; In my experience, it's because you don't see the point of living, that no one will miss you, and that you feel like you're worthless and taking up space. If YOU are suicidal, you don't see it as being selfish, you see it as one of the most self less things you could do. So saying to someone that it's selfish for them to do it just makes them discount your opinion because they "know" you're wrong already.

[SgtSmegma]

If you do it, come back and haunt me and let me know what the afterlife is like. If you don't, I'll assume there isn't one

[Neo Cassady]

http://www.hopeline.com/gethelpnow.html

listen to Swim by Jack's Mannequin <3.

This times infinity. Music helps so much. I wish I still had some of the mix CDs I made in high school when I felt like this.

Also, keep reminding yourself that whatever's bothering you will pass, and that in the grand scheme of things, it could always be much worse.

/cliche, but fuck it, this is too important.

[salt1384]

You're fucking selfish if you want to commit suicide. It doesn't hurt you, it hurts everyone around you. You're not the only one that has to deal with shit in life. Sure, it sucks sometimes, but you know what? You have to make the best of it.
You should check out the Myth of Sisyphus. Camus has some real good arguments against committing suicide (or call one of those hotlines).

[ace1112]

you're only 18 let life ride it doesn't really suck yet if you still feel like a waste at 30 (when life stars going downhill) then maybe but don't do it now

[stereokiller]

Pick yourself up by the bootstrap! You can't. YMAEWK hasn't released the new album yet.

But man, just no. :-( Life is like the single most important consumable you'll ever have for free, so why waste it? Others aren't as lucky as us with abortion and accidents, which is a sign too.

[ace1112]

Suicide is usually seen as a last resort; In my experience, it's because you don't see the point of living, that no one will miss you, and that you feel like you're worthless and taking up space. If YOU are suicidal, you don't see it as being selfish, you see it as one of the most self less things you could do. So saying to someone that it's selfish for them to do it just makes them discount your opinion because they "know" you're wrong already.

exactly

[liarscenic]

http://www.twloha.com/find-help/

[berd]

My best friend was dealing with a situation where he was feeling an incredible amount of guilt and shame. He couldn't face his friends or family and decided to overdose. He was in the Philipines at the time and had to stay in the hospital for 3 days and had his stomach pumped. He is okay now and is incredibly lucky to be okay. I know that to him the things he was dealing with in his mind and heart told him that leaving was the only escape. I have been in deep dark places but none to the point of killing myself. I don't know if suicide is completely selfish. Alot of people who commit suicide don't talk to anyone about the way they are feeling. Its this insecure introvertive way of feeling like your problems are shit and no one else will understand them. Honestly a lot of the time other people won't understand what you are going through, they won't get why you feel the way you do, and won't be able to comprehend why you would want to die over living. That doesn't mean they don't want to help, or that they don't love you unconditionally, but you have to help them help you. (cheesy but true) Sometimes as hard as it can be (believe me I know) you HAVE to let people in. I think above all else its the crushing isolation and fear of feeling inadequate that drives most to suicide. Stay alive man, fuck go bungee jumping, jump out of a plane, get a tatoo, get shitfaced and propose to a random girl (or guy) life is full of way too many intracacies to just let it go so soon.

[signal to noise]

(aside from the kids who want to be sarcastic or argue with each other,) i think 7 pages of complete strangers that want to console you is proof that there's beauty in life thats worth living for. come back and talk to us.

[danielineffigy]

Dude the Japanese are gonna broadcast the 2022 World Cup in stadiums all around the world using 3D holograms. You don't want to miss that shit.

[The Summer Ends]

suicide is dumb don't do it

also, since OP hasn't posted since yesterday, RIP OP (just in case)

[Chris Nelson]

(aside from the kids who want to be sarcastic or argue with each other,) i think 7 pages of complete strangers that want to console you is proof that there's beauty in life thats worth living for. come back and talk to us.

Completely agree. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Nuns On A Bus]

Dude, it has nothing to do with whether I like the music or not (I don't, but whatever). If this kid is really thinking about suicide on a constant basis, music isn't going to help him. It sounds to me like he's having a major depressive episode. You're really oversimplifying how serious mental disorders are. It's incredibly ignorant.

For the record, I definitely agree with you.

Get help dude. Don't kill yourself.

[zion the lion]

I'm going to assume you meant isn't.

First of all, just because you dislike the music doesn't mean it is worthless. There are a lot of people who consider it great music. I'm sure you will find people who say that it helped them massively. Just because you are some little judgemental twat who likes to think he knows better doesn't make that true.

What if music helped him express his feelings? What if he listens to it and thinks "wow, I really understand what this person is saying"? There are a shit load of people who have used music (listening and creating) to get over things. My Dinosaur Life by MCS pops into my head. A lot of the lyrics are about the leader singer overcoming his addictions. That's not the same as suicide but it proves my point.

TL;DR: You are a tool.

You need to stop being such a dick I mean you really are just a combative rude person. If you're really seriously thinking about suicide do you think that music is just going to stop you? A song is going to stop you? Some lyrics? Really? No. This is ridiculous, the music recommendations and the "you've got your whole life ahead of you" bullshit needs to stop. This isnt really helping its the same shit that they say in a corny tv show on lifetime.

When I was breaking down do you think manchester orchestra really helped me through it? Absolutely not, but I did (through all the music recs) find some great music to kill myself to.

[asslesschap182]

dont die. none of us want you to.

[troubledbyinsects]

i have a question. why would someone join a website just to post about how they are contemplating suicide? something smells fishy.

[luvsickcatalyst]

Call 1-800-suicide. Seriously.

Please call this unless you have someone to talk to. It's not an easy topic to discuss with a friend/family member/mentor, but if they're someone you can trust, they'll understand and honestly chat with you. Keep positive, man. You most certainly have a place in this world.

[The Indigo]

You need to stop being such a dick I mean you really are just a combative rude person. If you're really seriously thinking about suicide do you think that music is just going to stop you? A song is going to stop you? Some lyrics? Really? No. This is ridiculous, the music recommendations and the "you've got your whole life ahead of you" bullshit needs to stop. This isnt really helping its the same shit that they say in a corny tv show on lifetime.

When I was breaking down do you think manchester orchestra really helped me through it? Absolutely not, but I did (through all the music recs) find some great music to kill myself to.
This. It's a lovely sentiment and all, but it's absolutely meaningless to those truly going through a major depressive episode. An episode is basically feeling as if you're falling and can't catch yourself. Telling someone they have their whole life ahead of them doesn't provide an ounce of comfort.

OP, if you're still breathing and reading, I can't urge you enough 1) call a suicide hotline, tell a friend who can keep an eye on you, or do whatever it takes to get through the moment of crisis. 2) tell a counseler how you've been feeling (be honest with them) so they can help you plot the next steps. 3) open yourself up to all the options available to you. You can't talk yourself out of depression. You can't listen to a nifty song and suddenly realize life's worth living. Those things have their place in improving your situation, but don't listen to anyone here who would be ignorant enough to mention them in the same breath as the serious actions that need to be taken.

Let us know if you're still here.

[Whitekid7]

just live. shit will get better eventually.

[saveferris]

As long as love exists, so should you

[ohheroine]

. Jack's Mannequin will not stop someone with BPD from killing themselves.


would me :shrug:

[ohheroine]

You need to stop being such a dick I mean you really are just a combative rude person. If you're really seriously thinking about suicide do you think that music is just going to stop you? A song is going to stop you? Some lyrics? Really? No. This is ridiculous, the music recommendations and the "you've got your whole life ahead of you" bullshit needs to stop. This isnt really helping its the same shit that they say in a corny tv show on lifetime.

When I was breaking down do you think manchester orchestra really helped me through it? Absolutely not, but I did (through all the music recs) find some great music to kill myself to.



what would YOU suggest we do then?

[signal to noise]

i have a question. why would someone join a website just to post about how they are contemplating suicide? something smells fishy.

maybe they want want to talk to a community that understands them better than those who are immediate to them?

[zion the lion]

This. It's a lovely sentiment and all, but it's absolutely meaningless to those truly going through a major depressive episode. An episode is basically feeling as if you're falling and can't catch yourself. Telling someone they have their whole life ahead of them doesn't provide an ounce of comfort.

OP, if you're still breathing and reading, I can't urge you enough 1) call a suicide hotline, tell a friend who can keep an eye on you, or do whatever it takes to get through the moment of crisis. 2) tell a counseler how you've been feeling (be honest with them) so they can help you plot the next steps. 3) open yourself up to all the options available to you. You can't talk yourself out of depression. You can't listen to a nifty song and suddenly realize life's worth living. Those things have their place in improving your situation, but don't listen to anyone here who would be ignorant enough to mention them in the same breath as the serious actions that need to be taken.

Let us know if you're still here.

Every single time I tried, when someone said "you've got your whole life ahead of you" it just pissed me off, its like 'no, no I dont thats why I'm doing this' its like people dont get the concept of what being suicidal is. People arent asking why he's doing this, they arent asking anything they're just giving tired stupid old cliches, and if this was all this guy had, he'd be a goner.

[The Indigo]

would me :shrug:
Maybe because you don't have a disorder?

[The Summer Ends]

blah blah blah i'm so smart blah blah blah i know everything blah blah blah
etc.

[zion the lion]

what would YOU suggest we do then?

Stop saying "oh you've got your whole lives ahead of you" stop saying things like "as long as you've got love..." try to at least figure out whats going on, he doesnt seem like he's too far in it, like he's already done it. He seems like he's at the idealization point right now, and if he's asking if things are signs then it seems like he's looking for other people's answers, and other people's experiences. Maybe he's not receptive to the whole the hotline thing, maybe he wont be honest with a counselor...maybe he's just looking for someone who's been there before who can talk to him.

so talk to him for real, dont use the kid gloves with the cliches and the stupid one liners, just fucking talk to him really.

[zion the lion]

etc.

Surely this is the thread to pull this shit in.

[Antiflagdan]

Suicide is for the weak

[bung]

Life is wasted on the living.

[The Summer Ends]

Surely this is the thread to pull this shit in.
posting about suicide on the internet is obviously serious business instead of a cry for attention, right?

if you really were going to kill yourself, you wouldn't come to the internet and look for a bunch of strangers to console you.

[zion the lion]

posting about suicide on the internet is obviously serious business instead of a cry for attention, right?

if you really were going to kill yourself, you wouldn't come to the internet and look for a bunch of strangers to console you.

There are plenty of websites with groups of people who are going to kill themselves...again if you look at him he didnt explicitly say he was going to he said he was thinking about ways to and he was thinking about it a lot, he wanted to know if an announcement about suicide prevention was a sign to do it...it all seems to me like he's more confused than anything and like he's depressed but hey.

And the internet wasnt really meant for people to shit on each other it was meant as a means to communicate...you never know if he is fucking serious and if he is I'd feel bad if I were you.

[terror_91]

You need to stop being such a dick I mean you really are just a combative rude person. If you're really seriously thinking about suicide do you think that music is just going to stop you? A song is going to stop you? Some lyrics? Really? No. This is ridiculous, the music recommendations and the "you've got your whole life ahead of you" bullshit needs to stop. This isnt really helping its the same shit that they say in a corny tv show on lifetime.

When I was breaking down do you think manchester orchestra really helped me through it? Absolutely not, but I did (through all the music recs) find some great music to kill myself to.
Fuck off. No one cares about you.

[Hamlet]

you'd rather have someone be depressed and bitter and tormented (by everything that makes them want to kill themselves) for the rest of their lives just so that you dont feel guilty and so that you dont have to deal with the fact that they were unhappy and there was nothing you could do about it? Watching them go for the rest of their lives faking every smile for every picture or faking all of the "happy" emotions around you because they know you just cant handle the fact that they want to leave? Thats fucking selfish and believe me, I know.

Not for the rest of their lives.

[Hamlet]

To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.

7740lGif65Y

[tawtaw]

You're 18. You have a lot to live for.

[Mudblock]

If you do it and aliens make contact with earth the next day, you're going to feel like the biggest dick so I wouldn't do it if I were you. You will miss out on the biggest thing in the history of humans!!!!!!

[tawtaw]

If you do it and aliens make contact with earth the next day, you're going to feel like the biggest dick so I wouldn't do it if I were you. You will miss out on the biggest thing in the history of humans!!!!!!

Forget what I said. Listen to this guy.

[bung]

Not for the rest of their lives.

It's actually a very real possibility that someone will struggle with chronic depression their entire lives, even with medication and therapy.

[The Indigo]

posting about suicide on the internet is obviously serious business instead of a cry for attention, right?

if you really were going to kill yourself, you wouldn't come to the internet and look for a bunch of strangers to console you.
Not true. A cry for help (whether it be on to friends and family, to teachers, or to a bunch of strangers on the internet) is often part of the suicidal process.

Not for the rest of their lives.
Depression isn't a disease that just goes away. A lot of people who develop major depressive issues as young adults will suffer with it the rest of their lives.

To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.

I love your account.

[mattmatumbo]

listen to Swim by Jack's Mannequin <3

really, I cant say much on this topic. Everyone's always felt like giving up at some point, but its nothing i could ever do.
Life's worth living. ups and downs.

No, Algernon Cadwallader.

[Fullblast 2.0]

5F0PI5Qvlc4

[bung]

"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."

Shakespeare! Gotta love that butt cowboy!

[kieza]

"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."

Shakespeare! Gotta love that butt cowboy!

You know I fuckin hate shakespeare but thats one hell of a summary of life!

[inspirefate]

Thank you for all of your replies. I almost broke down for so many people who understood where i was coming from.

[inspirefate]

Also the song recommandations

[The Indigo]

Shakespeare > Jack's Mannequin

[xcloud66x]

I don't see the controversy. The decision is your own.

[terror_91]

Thank you for all of your replies. I almost broke down for so many people who understood where i was coming from.
Glad to hear it.

Did you find that music helped you?

[zion the lion]

Fuck off. No one cares about you.

Haha wow.

Not for the rest of their lives.

Thats how it works a lot of the time.

[Nuns On A Bus]

To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action.

God damn it Hamlet, not everything is about you you self-centered prick!

Seriously though, well played