jesus christ the yankees need mo

[selftitled85]

the bullpen has been awful besides proctor and bruner. they need a closer. and right now they are on the verge of letting this game slip away.

[xbrokendownx]

were fine

[Broken Parachute]

Yankees lolzz 4 games for the magic # and then they'll be almost as good as the mets lol

[Drew Beringer]

mlb thread plz

[Broken Parachute]

Yankees lolzz 4 games for the magic # and then they'll be almost as good as the mets lol
^^that was a joke

[xbrokendownx]

were fine






told you so

[justinevans]

well 3 games left so.

[hockey0001]

i hope mo gets healthy and then chokes in the playoffs




yeah, him choking in the playoffs is a longshot, but i need somethign to hope for during the rest of the season

[mikeford]

not that much of a long shot anymore


hello luis gonzalez.... hello david ortiz... hello bill mueller

[hockey0001]

not that much of a long shot anymore


hello luis gonzalez.... hello david ortiz... hello bill mueller

truth. Hopefully that list will be longer in a few weeks

[LeftWideOpen]

i'd take joe nathan over rivera right now, if i was able to pick one closer for the playoffs.

[xbrokendownx]

i'd take joe nathan over rivera right now, if i was able to pick one closer for the playoffs.






:shake:

[LeftWideOpen]

:shake:

rivera WAS the best and has been the guy I'd pick for the last 10 years ...

but all good things come to an end. he's banged up and nathan has a better ERA and far more strikeouts. It isnt a bold statement to say he's the better option for the 2006 playoffs.

[justinevans]

rivera WAS the best and has been the guy I'd pick for the last 10 years ...

but all good things come to an end. he's banged up and nathan has a better ERA and far more strikeouts. It isnt a bold statement to say he's the better option for the 2006 playoffs.

The difference is that Mariano will have more save opportunities.

[LeftWideOpen]

The difference is that Mariano will have more save opportunities.

considering minnesota's staff is > then new york's and their offense isnt as potent, the twins are a lot more likely to wind up in 1,2 or 3 run ballgames then new york is.

so really, nathan is going to have more opportunities. and if you made that remark hinting that new york would go deeper into the playoffs ...then you must have missed the series that just happened. new york is anything but perfect.

the playoffs are going to be wide open this year. and by playoffs, i mean the american league. the NL is just competing to see who will be the eventual loser.

[xbrokendownx]

i wouldnt be so quick to call the twins rotation better than ours (taking liriano out of the equation of course)

[LeftWideOpen]

i wouldnt be so quick to call the twins rotation better than ours (taking liriano out of the equation of course)

They have a better ERA.
They walk fewer batters then any other team in the league and they do so by a drastic margin.

Liriano is excellent, no doubt. But this staff is deep enough to absorb the loss of him. Santana is the best pitcher in baseball and any team will have to face him twice in a series. Brad Radke is as reliable as they come and Boof Bonser hasn't given up more then 3 runs a game since being recalled at the beginning of August.

what really separates the two staffs are the bullpens, though. Nathan, Reyes, Rincon, Crain, Neshek, Guerrier.

there hasnt been a better staff in baseball since the all star break. What has Liriano done since the all star break? 2-2 in 6 starts. His biggest contributions were before the break. This staff is fine without him and the Yankees staff doesnt really compare.

[selftitled85]

They have a better ERA.
They walk fewer batters then any other team in the league and they do so by a drastic margin.

Liriano is excellent, no doubt. But this staff is deep enough to absorb the loss of him. Santana is the best pitcher in baseball and any team will have to face him twice in a series. Brad Radke is as reliable as they come and Boof Bonser hasn't given up more then 3 runs a game since being recalled at the beginning of August.

what really separates the two staffs are the bullpens, though. Nathan, Reyes, Rincon, Crain, Neshek, Guerrier.

there hasnt been a better staff in baseball since the all star break. What has Liriano done since the all star break? 2-2 in 6 starts. His biggest contributions were before the break. This staff is fine without him and the Yankees staff doesnt really compare.

to pick any relief pitcher over rivera in the postseason would be a terrible idea. nathan does not have the post season experience mo has. even though mo has been hit in the most season recently, you have to realize that he is still the most feared closer in baseball.

and last year mo's numbers were by far much better than nathans. one year is not a way to say one pitcher is better.


not to mention we all know the postseason is different than the reg season.

[LeftWideOpen]

to pick any relief pitcher over rivera in the postseason would be a terrible idea. nathan does not have the post season experience mo has. even though mo has been hit in the most season recently, you have to realize that he is still the most feared closer in baseball.

and last year mo's numbers were by far much better than nathans. one year is not a way to say one pitcher is better.


not to mention we all know the postseason is different than the reg season.

postseason experience is a crock of shit. just look at the 2003 florida marlins, who won the a pitching staff of Josh Beckett, Dontrelle Willis, Brad Penny, Carl Pavano and Mark Redman. Their closer was Braden Looper. They beat an "expeienced" Yankee squad and did so on the road ..were "experience" would probably come in handy the most.

The 2002 angels had virtually no postseason experience. Even the 2004 Sox had little postseason experience, beyond Schilling.

Mariano Rivera is a phenomenal pitcher. If he's healthy, he'll be great for the Yankees this postseason. But he isnt healthy and baseball players don't heal this quick, especially late in the year. Reputations don't pitch and thats why I'd take Nathan over Mo this season. He's got just as good/better numbers, hes younger and he's healthy.

and even if i were to concede mo > nathan, the twins are still far superior in the pitching department. a closer only matters if the guys in front of him keep it together.