Online college vs. "real" college

[mymusicismylife]

Alright, a little background first. I went to community college for a year and completed everything necessary to transfer using the MACRAO Agreement. I plan on one day getting a PhD in psychology. I was going to first go to Central Michigan to get my BA, possibly my Masters, and then transfer to another school to complete my schooling.

The big problem is the money. My dad's pushing me to go to an online college for a while (specifically this one (http://www.apu.apus.edu/academic/programs/degree/1271/bachelor-of-arts-in-psychology) to get a BA in psychology) to save money. I've kind of been pumped to get back to a "real" college and build up more of a social life besides the one I have at work. Also, I feel like an online college would be viewed as a rather negative thing. I also though the same way about community college before I went, but after seeing how much money it saved me I was glad I went.

Basically, I would like some opinions about what I should do, and more importantly some facts and opinions about online colleges vs. "real" colleges in general. Any help is much appreciated.

Sarcastic remarks also appreciated, as long as they're funny.

[Wait_For_It]

I've taken quite a few classes through my university online and I love it. I don't know anything about the school you linked us to but my suggestion is take online classes through a physical school that offers classes online. I know some strictly online schools are views negatively by people.

[Jake Denning]

Online college is a real neat deal for some people, and for some people, not. My bud Joe from Mychildren Mybride takes online courses when he's touring 80% of the year, and it really works for him.

[Neo Cassady]

Online is where college is heading, it seems. But to me, on campus is the only way (and I've taken both physical and online courses). It all depends on whether you want an EDUCATION or a DEGREE; to me, only a "real" college gives you the former, which is what you're looking for if you want to go the doc route.

If you do choose online, look into "distance learning" or "world campus" options from renowned universities. Don't do University of Phoenix or any of that crap, as those are all for-profit business institutions with no intention other than taking your money in exchange for a piece of paper. A good example is Penn State's world campus: http://www.worldcampus.psu.edu/, and I'm sure there are others. Much more worth your time than any strictly online "university".

[Smash Adams]

I envy anyone who can do an online course, I would just be on youtube the entire time half-reading whatever I was supposed to look at ,I need the structured setting of a classroom but that may just be me

[.invisible ink.]

Online is where college is heading, it seems. But to me, on campus is the only way (and I've taken both physical and online courses). It all depends on whether you want an EDUCATION or a DEGREE; to me, only a "real" college gives you the former, which is what you're looking for if you want to go the doc route.

If you do choose online, look into "distance learning" or "world campus" options from renowned universities. Don't do University of Phoenix or any of that crap, as those are all for-profit business institutions with no intention other than taking your money in exchange for a piece of paper. A good example is Penn State's world campus: http://www.worldcampus.psu.edu/, and I'm sure there are others. Much more worth your time than any strictly online "university".

This. This. This.

Seriously, there are so many worthless "accredited" online universities out there that are really just scams and aren't worth a cent. *Only* do an online program through a real university where you can actually go to their campus otherwise you're looking at wasting your time and money.

[mymusicismylife]

The feedback is very much appreciated. I prefer the on-campus structure, and an education is what I have always preferred. I want to learn about psychology and I want my resume to reflect the hard work I plan on putting into it.

[RedWineSheets]

haha dont get me started on the racket of education.

[OhHorseFeathers]

Personally, I find that actually going to a class made me pass attention/keep focus more than any online course I took.

Having to physically be in a classroom setting removes quite a number of distractions.

[takeiteasy_]

It sounds to me like you have your mind made up for what you want to do, your dad just doesn't agree with you.

[sdbrown]

I envy anyone who can do an online course, I would just be on youtube the entire time half-reading whatever I was supposed to look at ,I need the structured setting of a classroom but that may just be me
I thought that too but it's not hard at all. Most classes just require you to write a paper, respond to a discussion question or take a quiz each week after reading a chapter in your book. Maybe it gets harder once you reach the 300 level or something but I'm the spaciest, most procrastination prone person ever and I still manage to get my shit done in time (except for the one test I submitted 6 hrs late because I was playing flash games instead of writing my essay questions.)

The feedback is very much appreciated. I prefer the on-campus structure, and an education is what I have always preferred. I want to learn about psychology and I want my resume to reflect the hard work I plan on putting into it.
being on a campus will also let you work with your professors much more, which is something you'll need if you are planning on going the PhD route.

[Taking_Frags]

If money is an issue, what about going to a state school? Also, paying for college is difficult. Myself, and I'm sure many others, are going to college strictly on loans. Since I go to a state school, I'll be graduating with approximately 30- 40k in loans, which in reality is not bad. I'm considering going for my Ph.D.. I know some people look down upon state schools, especially ones that aren't 'big', but by going to a state school, it has allowed me to do great in my academics, make great relationships with professors/faculty, and perform research (which is an open door for admission to grad school) with them.

In general, check out cheaper schools.

Also, look into programs that can give you loan forgiveness. Perhaps, though this isn't for everyone, do a ROTC. Research all the alternatives that are out there.

[johnwil]

A lot of people have the same opinion, often misguided, about online education. True, there was a time when online education’s quality was suspect, but those times are behind us now. There’s not only been a vast improvement in the quality of online education, but also in the way it is disbursed. And all this has led to a change in perception about online learning. As far as the differences between the two are concerned, there are many. Online education is flexible and you are free to study anytime and from anywhere, whereas a brick and mortar college will require you to follow a predefined schedule. Online and distance education programs (http://www.independence.edu/) are cheaper and also allow you to save on fuel, lodging, books, etc. On the other hand, classroom-based learning is more interactive and participative in nature as opposed to online courses. Both online and “real” colleges have their benefits and drawbacks. You should choose the one that most suits your needs and circumstances.

[mattyrocks]

haha dont get me started on the racket of education.

do tell.

[mattyrocks]

If money is an issue, what about going to a state school? Also, paying for college is difficult. Myself, and I'm sure many others, are going to college strictly on loans. Since I go to a state school, I'll be graduating with approximately 30- 40k in loans, which in reality is not bad. I'm considering going for my Ph.D.. I know some people look down upon state schools, especially ones that aren't 'big', but by going to a state school, it has allowed me to do great in my academics, make great relationships with professors/faculty, and perform research (which is an open door for admission to grad school) with them.

In general, check out cheaper schools.

Also, look into programs that can give you loan forgiveness. Perhaps, though this isn't for everyone, do a ROTC. Research all the alternatives that are out there.


completely agree. for those who take apart, it is a great oppurtunity.

[mimieux]

I don't know about either seeing as how I haven't done either yet (going to freshman year in the fall) but I would guess that the university life is part of the university experience. I'm not sure how online works exactly but I don't get the same feel I get from physical courses. I would think that physical university/college is more real and thorough.. But like I said I don't speak from experience.

Also, if money is an issue don't worry about that. There are loans and grants given to help people who are in tough money spots get through the years of schooling.

[girlattheshow]

Online school is fine, just as long as it's through a REAL, respected university. Many large state schools have fabulous distance education options. And if you fill out a FAFSA, you may be surprised by the amount of aid you're eligible for.

A lot of kids get fooled into doing online "college," not realizing that their American Public University/University of Phoenix degree is worthless. Even that previously mentioned "Independence University" sounds sketchy. Any school that is for-profit, or boasts giving you a bachelor's in less than 12 months is not legit. Even if it has some sort of "accreditation" it does not compare to a degree from a state school or private institution. No reputable phd program in psychology will take you seriously with a degree from APU. I'm so sorry if this offends anyone, but it's the truth. Talk to a graduate admissions rep or a human resources professional.

I should note: It's not that kids from sketchy online schools aren't smart. The problem is that these programs are not rigorous, and their faculty are not well-qualified. They simply collect tuition and pass kids through.

Sorry for the rant. I just hate to see bright kids get sucked into regrettable situations.

[mymusicismylife]

What is an ROTC exactly? I know the term, just can't think of it at the moment.

[Taking_Frags]

What is an ROTC exactly? I know the term, just can't think of it at the moment.

Reserve Officer Training Corps. The government pays for your schooling, and they turn you into an officer for the military where you'll have to serve after college. I think that's the idea of it.

[mattyrocks]

What is an ROTC exactly? I know the term, just can't think of it at the moment.


^ the guy above me said it.

are you thinking about doing ROTC? or were you just curious?

[aspacetogrow182]

Nothing really beats the classroom environment in college, but online classes do help a lot of people. Especially those with tight schedules.
Anyone heard of an online college called "Nationals University". A girl at my work always brings it up (she went there then dropped out). I'm curious as to whether it's legit.

[mymusicismylife]

^ the guy above me said it.

are you thinking about doing ROTC? or were you just curious?

Just curious. Trying to check all my options.

[ncf_thesis]

Online schools are considered a joke. If you want to eventually get a Ph.D. in psychology, it is very difficult to get into graduate school. So it will be even more difficult to be accepted if you get your undergrad online.

[Emarosa12]

Go to real college

[lbopm]

online colleges are laughed at in the job market and if you want to go to GRAD SCHOOL they won't even consider it a real degree. You need strong Letters of Recommendation which only come from REAL PROFESSORS... preferable famous ones.

[HelpMeSleep]

I have a friend who's 19 who always talks about the online bachelors degree she's working on and how much she loves University of Phoenix, but I think it's a dumb idea.

I'm taking 3 online classes and 3 regular classes right now. I think online classes are okay, if you're choosy about which classes you do it for. certain classes make sense to do online, but others are just way more work and a huge pain in the ass. taking some classes online also frees up your schedule and your work availability, but I'd never do an online college. but to me, the whole college experience is important too.

[pinkydalady]

I am currently taking some on-line classes and some "real" classes. I find that the on-line classes I can do any time of the day and that frees up a lot of my evening. I don't think anyone will frown on my taking on-line classes now days it has become part of the system.

[selftitled85]

Online schools are considered a joke. If you want to eventually get a Ph.D. in psychology, it is very difficult to get into graduate school. So it will be even more difficult to be accepted if you get your undergrad online.

This. No one respects an online degree. No one. If you are looking to get a PHd and do something with it you better go to a real college with a strong program with a very strong research core. If not, you won't do anything.

Go to real college

Agreed.

I am currently taking some on-line classes and some "real" classes. I find that the on-line classes I can do any time of the day and that frees up a lot of my evening. I don't think anyone will frown on my taking on-line classes now days it has become part of the system.

It has not become "part of the system." Online colleges are good for people who are not ready to commit full time to a school. But if you want to actually do something with your life (ie: teach, go into government, analyst, etc etc) you better have a legit degree from a legit university that is highly regarded.

[selftitled85]

Not to mention one of the most understated aspects of college is the social one. You NEED to go somewhere where you can find out who you are. You aren't going to by sitting at your computer. You do that by living at a school and meeting new people, exploring different areas, taking interesting classes, and broadening your horizons. When I was in college (03-07 for undergrad and 08-10 for masters) I was able to study abroad in both Russia and London as well as do a semester in DC where I met reps and senators and interned at a reputable think tank. Online programs do not give you that chance.

And it is not even worth going into the social life aspect. Some people don't like it for one reason or another but it is one of the core parts of college.

As you can see I miss college greatly. I would kill to go back and do it all over again.

[pinkydalady]

This. No one respects an online degree. No one. If you are looking to get a PHd and do something with it you better go to a real college with a strong program with a very strong research core. If not, you won't do anything.



Agreed.



It has not become "part of the system." Online colleges are good for people who are not ready to commit full time to a school. But if you want to actually do something with your life (ie: teach, go into government, analyst, etc etc) you better have a legit degree from a legit university that is highly regarded.


Online classes and online colleges are two different things. I attend ASU and I am able to take some of my classes online. That is what I was trying to say. I would agree that an online college degree is not a good way to go.

[selftitled85]

Online classes and online colleges are two different things. I attend ASU and I am able to take some of my classes online. That is what I was trying to say. I would agree that an online college degree is not a good way to go.

My bad. The way I read it was that you were going to one of those online schools. Online classes through ASU is different. That said, make sure you get the full college experience. It is expensive and time consuming but the memories you make and you experiences will help shape you for years to come.

[CircaKnives]

One of my roommates works at NelNet and so his job is almost specifically calling people who haven't paid their student loans, the majority of which he says are to online colleges or "for profit colleges" like Kaplan and Phoenix.

"Real" college is the way to go. Not only do you immerse yourself in a special environment and you get to meet new people, but you can get a lot closer help with your studies from classmates and professors. I truly miss my time at the University of Nebraska, and I'd recommend that experience to anyone.

[xpunkprincessxx]

Online classes and online colleges are two different things. I attend ASU and I am able to take some of my classes online. That is what I was trying to say. I would agree that an online college degree is not a good way to go.
i is online homeschool it is 2 different things

[wernier]

ya its good but big companies see the name of the college first. Whereas distance education is meant for degree purpose the higher companies don't hire a student of distance learner. I experienced it.