View Full Version : "Konstantine" vs. "Brick"?
shortone1320
06/08/10, 06:57 PM
Which song is better? "Konstantine" by Something Corporate or "Brick" by Ben Folds Five?
Please explain..
IceAge/HeatWave
06/09/10, 07:48 AM
brick has such a powerful, emotional back story that i feel a lot of people don't know about.
i'll get a lot of hate for this, but:
ben folds (and ben folds five) > SoCo
brick has such a powerful, emotional back story that i feel a lot of people don't know about.
i'll get a lot of hate for this, but:
ben folds (and ben folds five) > SoCo
alright i'll bite. whats the back story?
KONSTANTINE. the song gives you all the meaning you need.
I have tons of respect for Ben.... but I just can't get into his music and not a huge fan of his voice. :-(
notoaststereo
06/10/10, 09:40 AM
konstantine will prolly win but imma say brick.
notoaststereo
06/10/10, 09:41 AM
alright i'll bite. whats the back story?
if i'm not mistaken, it's about how his girlfriend got an abortion when he was in highschool.
shortone1320
06/10/10, 10:12 AM
if i'm not mistaken, it's about how his girlfriend got an abortion when he was in highschool.
somebody wikipedia'd this stuff, just messing but yea there is some truth to it, if u believe wikipedia that is...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick_%28song%29
Neo Cassady
06/10/10, 10:19 AM
somebody wikipedia'd this stuff, just messing but yea there is some truth to it, if u believe wikipedia that is...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick_%28song%29
Or, you know, if you believe Ben himself on his live album...
Anyway, as much as I like "Brick", "Konstantine" has so many memories attached to it.
Zippedychick
06/10/10, 10:37 AM
I like them both. A lot. I really can't choose.
notoaststereo
06/10/10, 10:47 AM
somebody wikipedia'd this stuff, just messing but yea there is some truth to it, if u believe wikipedia that is...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick_%28song%29
Or, you know, if you believe Ben himself on his live album...
Anyway, as much as I like "Brick", "Konstantine" has so many memories attached to it.
Yeah, I heard him tell the story live. But I don't remember anything other than him saying it was about his girlfriend getting an abortion.
ayerock
06/10/10, 02:49 PM
http://img.archiexpo.com/images_ae/photo-g/perforated-clay-facing-brick-for-load-bearing-walls-143095.jpg
TerrancePryor
06/10/10, 03:00 PM
Konstantine ftw
Brick is a great song, but Konstantine is simply amazing.
pleasedontpanic
06/10/10, 07:48 PM
brick has such a powerful, emotional back story that i feel a lot of people don't know about.
i'll get a lot of hate for this, but:
ben folds (and ben folds five) > SoCo
I'm with you boss. Soco is good, but highly overrated on this site.
gaga_lover
06/10/10, 09:42 PM
Both beautiful, but I like the piano in Konstantine better.
Formatfun
06/11/10, 12:47 PM
Love SoCo, but Ben should win this one.
poppa Q
06/11/10, 12:52 PM
http://img.archiexpo.com/images_ae/photo-g/perforated-clay-facing-brick-for-load-bearing-walls-143095.jpg
:-|
I don't get it.
dave vegan
06/11/10, 03:48 PM
brick has such a powerful, emotional back story that i feel a lot of people don't know about.
i'll get a lot of hate for this, but:
ben folds (and ben folds five) > SoCo
Completely agree. "Konstantine" is a nice love song but "Brick" fucking wrenches my stomach every time I hear it. And I don't even like Ben Folds. Like you said, it's a very powerful and emotional song. And it hits home, hard.
dave vegan
06/11/10, 03:50 PM
Yeah, I heard him tell the story live. But I don't remember anything other than him saying it was about his girlfriend getting an abortion.
Obviously you don't realize the emotional distress that such a choice can have on a couple, especially when the male feels absolutely helpless to do anything to make the person he loves feel any comfort at all in such a difficult time.
ayerock
06/11/10, 04:27 PM
:-|
I don't get it.
Well, it's a brick
notoaststereo
06/11/10, 06:01 PM
Obviously you don't realize the emotional distress that such a choice can have on a couple, especially when the male feels absolutely helpless to do anything to make the person he loves feel any comfort at all in such a difficult time.
Or I heard it a long time ago and can't remember specifically what he said...
I can completely understand the emotional distress of the situation and it's absolutely a powerful song. Just because I don't completely remember the back story doesn't void my ability to comprehend the situation.
himynameisjohn3
06/11/10, 08:06 PM
brick has such a powerful, emotional back story that i feel a lot of people don't know about.
i'll get a lot of hate for this, but:
ben folds (and ben folds five) > SoCo
yes.
pnkhrdwndr
06/11/10, 09:45 PM
ben folds (and ben folds five) > SoCo
true statement
stonecoldfox
06/11/10, 10:16 PM
I'm gonna go ahead and say it...Konstantine really isn't that good of a song...I've tried listening to it a few times and it just does nothing for me...
poppa Q
06/11/10, 10:44 PM
Well, it's a brick
Oh, yeah? And?
dave vegan
06/11/10, 10:53 PM
Or I heard it a long time ago and can't remember specifically what he said...
I can completely understand the emotional distress of the situation and it's absolutely a powerful song. Just because I don't completely remember the back story doesn't void my ability to comprehend the situation.
No, the song is definitely about an abortion, plain and simple. I have heard him say this in numerous interviews and back when the song was on the radio I remember it being discussed a lot.
Edit: I think I misinterpreted you originally. Wrapping it up so tightly as "this song is about his girlfriend getting an abortion" really only touches the surface. I don't think it's about her abortion as much as his inability to cope with it.
notoaststereo
06/11/10, 11:03 PM
No, the song is definitely about an abortion, plain and simple. I have heard him say this in numerous interviews and back when the song was on the radio I remember it being discussed a lot.
Edit: I think I misinterpreted you originally. Wrapping it up so tightly as "this song is about his girlfriend getting an abortion" really only touches the surface. I don't think it's about her abortion as much as his inability to cope with it.
Haha yeah. I think this was kind of a misunderstanding. We're absolutely on the same page. This song is about Ben having to deal with it (or not being able to), which is an interesting take because most stories you hear about abortions are from the woman's perspective. What I love about Ben Folds is how honest he can be in his music. He isn't afraid to share his experiences and how he feels in a very real, honest and telling way.
ayerock
06/12/10, 03:05 AM
Oh, yeah? And?
The name of the song I voted for in this poll is titled "Brick"
kazuma_ootaro28
06/12/10, 03:14 AM
I'm disgusted with the results, even though I'm not surprised by it at all. Andrew McMahon wished he wrote something as good as "Brick"
shortone1320
06/12/10, 06:26 AM
SoCo has got to be one of my favorite bands but i do say "brick" has that something that "konstantine" lacks
jjjkman
06/12/10, 09:11 AM
I prefer Konstantine, although I enjoy Ben Folds much more as an artist than SoCo.
Alex DiVincenzo
06/12/10, 11:55 AM
Konstantine<3
Indoor Living
06/12/10, 02:25 PM
brick has such a powerful, emotional back story that i feel a lot of people don't know about.
i'll get a lot of hate for this, but:
ben folds (and ben folds five) > SoCo
YES, YES, YES. People do not understand that man's genius.
HelloxAlone
06/12/10, 10:29 PM
Konstantine. It's hard to beat.
danofthedead
06/13/10, 09:32 AM
I'm with you boss. Soco is good, but highly overrated on this site.
A-fucking-MEN
The songs are just so completely different, each is great in it's own right.
SincerelyMe
06/13/10, 01:27 PM
Wow. I really can't decide. I voted for "Brick" so I could see the results, but I don't think I could pick one over the other.
fightinirish217
06/13/10, 04:51 PM
Konstantine ftw.
introduction
06/14/10, 01:49 AM
soco, you really are overrated on this site, but did you know I missed you?
imtherealdave
06/14/10, 06:22 AM
Brick and its not even close.
IceAge/HeatWave
06/14/10, 11:54 AM
alright i'll bite. whats the back story?
i'm getting back way late, i was at bonnaroo. but it's about his high school girlfriend getting an abortion. the chorus is supposed to throw people off and isn't about the same topic the verses are.
i know that this was all explained to you, but i figured i'd respond anyways.
MReprogle
06/14/10, 01:51 PM
I'm with you boss. Soco is good, but highly overrated on this site.
I third that.
Konstantine is all kinds of fantastic. It has a great story and each time you listen to it, there is another nuance that one can explore. as well, Andrew wrote it in a way so that everyone can relate and apply it to their own life. plus, he name drops JEW <3
Tristan Needler
06/16/10, 09:47 AM
This is hard. I think I have to go with Brick though. But yeah, Ben Folds/Ben Folds Five are way better than SoCo/Jacks Mannequin on average.
Intotheunkn0wn
06/16/10, 12:27 PM
shocked this is actually a poll, maybe i'm biased but the results say it all
Deadbolt23
06/16/10, 01:47 PM
http://www.movietrimmer.com/content/default/english/images/movies/92380_3.jpg
great pole
i went with konstantine, but brick is probably my favorite song about abortion... ha
spansen
06/20/10, 12:16 AM
brick has such a powerful, emotional back story that i feel a lot of people don't know about.
i'll get a lot of hate for this, but:
ben folds (and ben folds five) > SoCo
yup.
icynova
06/21/10, 11:15 AM
Konstantine, for the memories more than the actual song.
Gregory Robson
06/22/10, 04:33 AM
Brick, by a landslide. I like SoCo and all, but Brick wins by a wide margin.
shortone1320
06/22/10, 08:43 PM
i figured i might as well drop this here as well (a link to another forum discussing Piano Rock bands)
http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1695222
xHoodieWeather
06/22/10, 10:18 PM
soco, you really are overrated on this site, but did you know I missed you?
you know what's overrated on this site? Brand New and Anthony Green.
SoCo's not nearly as overrated as Jesse Lacey or Anthony Green.
Plus, Andrew McMahon is one of the best dudes on earth.
and as for the poll, i really enjoy bricks, and ben folds in general, but Konstantine is hard to beat for me, konstantine holds a special place in my heart.
shortone1320
07/15/10, 08:02 PM
Konstantine<3
i saw that you were from Raynham and i was wondering and sure enough Umass Dartmouth is represented again, can't wait to get back in the fall, maybe ill see u on campus at some point or another.
Alex DiVincenzo
07/15/10, 08:21 PM
i saw that you were from Raynham and i was wondering and sure enough Umass Dartmouth is represented again, can't wait to get back in the fall, maybe ill see u on campus at some point or another.
Yeah dude, say what's up if you do. What are you going to school for?
shortone1320
07/15/10, 08:26 PM
Yeah dude, say what's up if you do. What are you going to school for?
Im going for Mechanical Engineering, and how about yourself?
Alex DiVincenzo
07/15/10, 09:03 PM
Im going for Mechanical Engineering, and how about yourself?
Management Information Systems. Most of my friends who started out as engineering majors have switched over to business because it's way easier, haha.
Mr.Piano93
07/15/10, 09:40 PM
Just heard Brick for the first time, I liked it a lot, but it doesnt have the climax that Konstantine has, and overall the song just seemed to stay in the same place the whole time (Not necessarily a bad thing). Overall, its definitely not fair to compare these two songs. They are both better in different ways. Brick is just a good soft rock/pop song, while Konstantine is a brilliant composition that I can only listen to every now and then because I don't want it to get stale.
I'm not crazy about the main piano part in Konstantine at all. I dont think it fits the song well. But with Brick, the piano is very flavorful.
shortone1320
07/16/10, 04:03 AM
Management Information Systems. Most of my friends who started out as engineering majors have switched over to business because it's way easier, haha.
thats usually what happens, but hopefully i'll be able to stick it out. maybe living with 5 other engineering majors down in the dells might help. lol
kazuma_ootaro28
07/16/10, 04:25 AM
Did you know that I missed you?
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I miss you
Yeah... Great job on the poll results there, AP.net. :-/
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