Gun Control?

[ironlionOROKU]

I personally think gun control in this country is terrible and am completely anti NRA. I live in Philadelphia where there have been close to 300 homicides this year with the vast majority of them relating to guns. They are too easy to access.

[fromwithin]

and....

[melvicious]

:unsure:

[ironlionOROKU]

and....

...there needs to be a better system in place. the fact that pretty much anyone can acquire a gun is scary.

[a speedo model]

hmmm...

[a speedo model]

...there needs to be a better system in place. the fact that pretty much anyone can acquire a gun is scary.
that won't keep the criminals and all around bad guys from getting their hands on them anyway

[ironlionOROKU]

that won't keep the criminals and all around bad guys from getting their hands on them anyway


it would still greatly reduce the amount of homicides each year....including 13 year old underprivleged kids who are shooting each other up every night in philly

[fromwithin]

it would still greatly reduce the amount of homicides each year....including 13 year old underprivleged kids who are shooting each other up every night in philly


if guns are gone theyll use knives, and so on, and so on. we need to get rid of the people, not the guns.

[melvicious]

if guns are gone theyll use knives, and so on, and so on. we need to get rid of the people, not the guns.
I'd rather die by gun than knife.

ouch

[fromwithin]

I'd rather die by gun than knife.

ouch

i'd rather we be more forceful with capital punishment like other countries then let these idiots walk the earth.

[a speedo model]

i'd rather we be more forceful with capital punishment like other countries then let these idiots walk the earth.
:appl:

[WakingTheMisery]

As long as they are around, people will find ways to get them.

[melvicious]

i'd rather we be more forceful with capital punishment like other countries then let these idiots walk the earth.

I don't like CP

[fromwithin]

I don't like CP

I dont like murderers and rapists going unpunished.

[melvicious]

I dont like murderers and rapists going unpunished.
Other ways.


I'm really not looking for a debate though because it could get ugly and i have class soon.

[WakingTheMisery]

Eye for an eye...

[Tristan Needler]

i'd rather we be more forceful with capital punishment like other countries then let these idiots walk the earth.
like other countries?

[fromwithin]

Other ways.


I'm really not looking for a debate though because it could get ugly and i have class soon.

getting your ass pounded in prison is hardly punishment for taking someone's life. prisons are also nicer than most outside areas, with tv's, sports, weights, etc.

[melvicious]

getting your ass pounded in prison is hardly punishment for taking someone's life. prisons are also nicer than most outside areas, with tv's, sports, weights, etc.

so dont make the prisons so nice.

i'd rather be killed instantly than rot my life away..seems much worse.

[fromwithin]

so dont make the prisons so nice.

i'd rather be killed instantly than rot my life away..seems much worse.


then ridiculous "activists" will say the prisons are run-down and fight until theyre like they are now. Prisons are hardly punishment nowadays, maybe back then they were but not in this day and age. I'd be all for making them dumps.

[melvicious]

Through the activists in the gas chamber!

[fromwithin]

oh and the other reason why capital punishment needs to be enforced more is that all the prisons are becoming full and overcrowded.

[fromwithin]

I was talking to my friends about this and we decided that we need to bring back the Coliseum. We also want to include homeless people in this.

I would love to see that, then they could make money out of it and everyone would benefit.

[ironlionOROKU]

then ridiculous "activists" will say the prisons are run-down and fight until theyre like they are now. Prisons are hardly punishment nowadays, maybe back then they were but not in this day and age. I'd be all for making them dumps.

prisons are hardly punishments? you are a moron

[Tristan Needler]

oh and the other reason why capital punishment needs to be enforced more is that all the prisons are becoming full and overcrowded.
what do you have against prison overcrowding? all it does is make the inmates less comfortable, which it sounds like you're all for.

[fromwithin]

prisons are hardly punishments? you are a moron

do you know all the shit they have in prisons now? obviously not. they're allowed tons more than they use to have.

[ironlionOROKU]

what do you have against prison overcrowding? all it does is make the inmates less comfortable, which it sounds like you're all for.


capital punishment is so backwards it's disgusting.

[fromwithin]

what do you have against prison overcrowding? all it does is make the inmates less comfortable, which it sounds like you're all for.

no it leads to understaffing, which if a situation/revolt with prisoners happen and they are understaffed, well the end result wouldn't be a good thing.

[ironlionOROKU]

do you know all the shit they have in prisons now? obviously not. they're allowed tons more than they use to have.

not in ALL prisons moron. the majority of prisons are horrible. they are given activites to do to keep them busy. idle hands and minds are not a good thing to have in a prison setting.

[ndtitr]

if guns are gone theyll use knives, and so on, and so on. we need to get rid of the people, not the guns.

I COMPLETLY AGREE. JUST GET RID OF THE PEEPZ THAT ARE COMMITING THE CRIMES. OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM IS HORRIBLE AS WELL. HOW CAN SOME GET LIKE 10-25 YEARS IN JAIL AND BE OUT IN LIKE 6? IT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING MORE AND MORE DAILY...

[ironlionOROKU]

I COMPLETLY AGREE. JUST GET RID OF THE PEEPZ THAT ARE COMMITING THE CRIMES. OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM IS HORRIBLE AS WELL. HOW CAN SOME GET LIKE 10-25 YEARS IN JAIL AND BE OUT IN LIKE 6? IT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING MORE AND MORE DAILY...


chill on the caps lock asshole. and to think that "they" will use knives instead of guns is ridiculous and laughable.

[Tristan Needler]

I COMPLETLY AGREE. JUST GET RID OF THE PEEPZ THAT ARE COMMITING THE CRIMES. OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM IS HORRIBLE AS WELL. HOW CAN SOME GET LIKE 10-25 YEARS IN JAIL AND BE OUT IN LIKE 6? IT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING MORE AND MORE DAILY...
your caps lock key must be stuck. you might want to check that out.

[Tristan Needler]

i don't understand what people can possibly have against gun control. why would you ever need a store that sells uzis?

[fromwithin]

chill on the caps lock asshole. and to think that "they" will use knives instead of guns is ridiculous and laughable.

they use knives now dont they???? and guns are still accessible.

[ironlionOROKU]

they use knives now dont they???? and guns are still accessible.

knives are mainly used in crimes of passion...when was the last time you heard of someone being killed in the corssfire of a knife fight?

[Tristan Needler]

they use knives now dont they???? and guns are still accessible.
i'd like you to explain to me what disadvantages there would be in higher gon control. we all know what it could help to reduce, and however much you want to argue, you know it would reduce it at least slightly, but i have no idea what you would lose by having better gun control.

[a speedo model]

knives are mainly used in crimes of passion...when was the last time you heard of someone being killed in the corssfire of a knife fight?
mainly

[ironlionOROKU]

there are NO benefits with lax laws concerning gun control...none at all

[elemenohpe]

i only need one gun controller...














































































http://atariace.com/nintendo/images/nintendo_zapper_gray.jpg

...and i can take out 2 ducks at once.

[fromwithin]

i don't understand what people can possibly have against gun control. why would you ever need a store that sells uzis?

in case you ever need to defend yourself against an army. I understand that guns are easily obtained by criminals but they usually don't go to a gun store, or any type of recognized establishment to get said guns. Even if gun control was more strict it wouldn't stop them from getting guns. Like I said these people will use anything they can, it doesn't matter if guns are there or not.

[ironlionOROKU]

in case you ever need to defend yourself against an army. I understand that guns are easily obtained by criminals but they usually don't go to a gun store, or any type of recognized establishment to get said guns. Even if gun control was more strict it wouldn't stop them from getting guns. Like I said these people will use anything they can, it doesn't matter if guns are there or not.

defend yourself against an army....buddy if an army was coming after you some dinky little uzi would not be your answer

[fromwithin]

I still want to get an automatic weapon before they put the ban back on, or have they already? You never know when you might need it someday. If the gov't is allowed to carry such a weapon I want to be able to as well.

[a speedo model]

making more gun laws and such will only make guns less accessable to the honest people who would use them for protection. criminals aren't going to be stopped by a few new laws in their way.

[fromwithin]

defend yourself against an army....buddy if an army was coming after you some dinky little uzi would not be your answer

I might not even have that though if idiots like you keep bitching about gun control though.

[fromwithin]

making more gun laws and such will only make guns less accessable to the honest people who would use them for protection. criminals aren't going to be stopped by a few new laws in their way.

thank you.

[Tristan Needler]

Haha, this guy we know got a permit to carry a concealed gun or something like that and we asked him why and he said "because they're getting rid of it soon and once you have it, you have it for life." To which we asked "ok....but when are you ever planning on carrying around a concealed gun." I think he just muttered something and didn't give an answer.


But to answer your question: zombies.
hahaha.

[Brandon Allin]

capital punishment is so backwards it's disgusting.
Yes, but allowing a criminal who's taken someone's life to sit in a building with thousands of other people that isn't even that run-down to begin with, that's perfectly acceptable, right? Oh, and let's not forget the disgustingly short sentences these said criminals somehow manage to obtain. But, I suppose six years in jail is an accurate price to pay for killing another human being.

:shakes head:

I'm all for more strict gun control, but to agree with the justice system in it's current state is absurd.

[Tristan Needler]

in case you ever need to defend yourself against an army. I understand that guns are easily obtained by criminals but they usually don't go to a gun store, or any type of recognized establishment to get said guns. Even if gun control was more strict it wouldn't stop them from getting guns. Like I said these people will use anything they can, it doesn't matter if guns are there or not.but the guns originally came from a gun store, whether it was robbed, someone bought them to sell them on the streets, whatever. it came from a gun store at some point in time.

I still want to get an automatic weapon before they put the ban back on, or have they already? You never know when you might need it someday. If the gov't is allowed to carry such a weapon I want to be able to as well.
but why?

[a speedo model]

thank you.
no problem.

[fromwithin]

but why?


like I said if the government is allowed to carry around such weapons then I should be able to as well.

[ironlionOROKU]

Yes, but allowing a criminal who's taken someone's life to sit in a building with thousands of other people that isn't even that run-down to begin with, that's perfectly acceptable, right? Oh, and let's not forget the disgustingly short sentences these said criminals somehow manage to obtain. But, I suppose six years in jail is an accurate price to pay for killing another human being.

:shakes head:

I'm all for more strict gun control, but to agree with the justice system in it's current state is absurd.

yeah I agree with the shitty state of our justice system...I just feel like gun control is horrible...lets not forget that prisons are no walk in the park....they are also supposed to rehab prisoners...which seems to not even be a priority in the prison system

[ironlionOROKU]

like I said if the government is allowed to carry around such weapons then I should be able to as well.

our government also commits genocide and robs us blind....do you want to do that as well?

[Tristan Needler]

making more gun laws and such will only make guns less accessable to the honest people who would use them for protection. criminals aren't going to be stopped by a few new laws in their way.
how many people with guns for protection actually use them? why no use your hunting rifle?

[sweet tragedy]

chill on the caps lock asshole. and to think that "they" will use knives instead of guns is ridiculous and laughable.

How so? People were killing other people before guns were around.

[fromwithin]

our government also commits genocide and robs us blind....do you want to do that as well?
don't talk out of your ass. you know those are ridiculous comparisons.

[Tristan Needler]

like I said if the government is allowed to carry around such weapons then I should be able to as well.
your government appoints secret service officials to protect it's members. should you be entitled to full use of the CIA? should you be allowed to view all classified documents? should you have the foreign diplomatic immunity if you visit another country?

[a speedo model]

how many people with guns for protection actually use them? why no use your hunting rifle?
you can't walk to work with your hunting rifle tucked under your suit coat and they're not going to let you run home to get it...

[neo506]

wrong forum

[fromwithin]

your government appoints secret service officials to protect it's members. should you be entitled to full use of the CIA? should you be allowed to view all classified documents? should you have the foreign diplomatic immunity if you visit another country?

obviously not, but we're eventually heading towards a totalitarian state, and if the gov't decides hey no more guns for anyone I want to make sure I am equipped to defend myself.

[ironlionOROKU]

wrong forum


shut up

[ironlionOROKU]

obviously not, but we're eventually heading towards a totalitarian state, and if the gov't decides hey no more guns for anyone I want to make sure I am equipped to defend myself.


against what?!?!? are you a drug lord?

[Tristan Needler]

you can't walk to work with your hunting rifle tucked under your suit coat and they're not going to let you run home to get it...
so you want to carry your glock or your uzi to work every day? you're that scared? moave to canada then.

[fromwithin]

against what?!?!? are you a drug lord?

against the government dumbass.

[Salomonbz90]

Move this thread, it could get ugly after yesterdays events in CO

[ironlionOROKU]

against the government dumbass.

the government has suckered you into the culture of fear they produce to keep peons like you scared and worthless...

[a speedo model]

against what?!?!? are you a drug lord?

and i quote...

I personally think gun control in this country is terrible and am completely anti NRA. I live in Philadelphia where there have been close to 300 homicides this year with the vast majority of them relating to guns. They are too easy to access.

[ironlionOROKU]

Move this thread, it could get ugly after yesterdays events in CO

you should be able to talk about it....without having to tread on eggshells

[a speedo model]

so you want to carry your glock or your uzi to work every day? you're that scared? moave to canada then.
no but i think i should be allowed to have the option.

[neo506]

shut upwow

fiesty

[ironlionOROKU]

and i quote...


your quote means nothing...the homicides are due to lax gun control asshole

[Salomonbz90]

you should be able to talk about it....without having to tread on eggshells
We are talking about it.
I agree with you completely on the topic.
2 major school shootings in the last week???
That signals problem to me.

[a speedo model]

your quote means nothing...the homicides are due to lax gun control asshole
so, if we outlaw guns you're telling me there will be no more homicides with guns? what suddenly criminals are going to stop? where the fuck do you think they get their guns, the corner drugstore?

[fromwithin]

your quote means nothing...the homicides are due to lax gun control asshole


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

so it has nothing to do with the people at all? you talk out of your left-wing ass so much it's ridiculous.

[sweet tragedy]

your quote means nothing...the homicides are due to lax gun control asshole

Man, people should really pay attention to me. AGAIN, people killed eachother before guns were around. Even after guns did come into play, some of the most "successful" serial killers never bothered to use guns.

[neo506]

your quote means nothing...the homicides are due to lax gun control assholeNo...homicides are due to ignorant people who have no better way to resolve their conflicts

[ironlionOROKU]

We are talking about it.
I agree with you completely on the topic.
2 major school shootings in the last week???
That signals problem to me.

and the guns used in the shooting in montral were with automatic weapons...why should any civilian in any country be allowed to access automatic weapons

[a speedo model]

Man, people should really pay attention to me. AGAIN, people killed eachother before guns were around. Even after guns did come into play, some of the most "successful" serial killers never bothered to use guns.
:appl:

i think i love you

[fromwithin]

the government has suckered you into the culture of fear they produce to keep peons like you scared and worthless...

so youre not the least bit afraid if the government decides to take everything away from you and would say.....murder your family or detain them and torture them in prison?

[Salomonbz90]

BTK killer used ropes!


sick bastard.

[fromwithin]

Man, people should really pay attention to me. AGAIN, people killed eachother before guns were around. Even after guns did come into play, some of the most "successful" serial killers never bothered to use guns.


You are correct alyssa, I told him that people would use whatever they could get their hands on but his mind is too warped to realize this.

[Salomonbz90]

and the guns used in the shooting in montral were with automatic weapons...why should any civilian in any country be allowed to access automatic weapons
I have access to them. It's not that hard.

But I know what you're saying.

[ironlionOROKU]

so youre not the least bit afraid if the government decides to take everything away from you and would say.....murder your family or detain them and torture them in prison?

you honestly think this would happen? what do we live in sudan?

[a speedo model]

and the guns used in the shooting in montral were with automatic weapons...why should any civilian in any country be allowed to access automatic weapons
so should we get rid of automatic guns or just guns in general?

[Salomonbz90]

:wave::lurk:

[ironlionOROKU]

so should we get rid of automatic guns or just guns in general?

automatic weapons for civilians should be banned...guns for civilians should not be...just the means of acquiring them should be a little more strict

[a speedo model]

i still go back to my quote, you never gave a proper defense...

[neo506]

hahah

told you it was the wrong forum

[Salomonbz90]

automatic weapons for civilians should be banned...guns for civilians should not be...just the means of acquiring them should be a little more strict
Kill someone with an automatic.
the same damage could be done with a semi auto.

[a speedo model]

hahah

told you it was the wrong forum
hahahaha

[justinevans]

many of the guns are used are already acquired illegally. All gun control would do is stop impulse murders.