Crazy Man Alvin Greene - South Carolina Democrat [Archive]

zachff

06/14/10, 06:45 AM

I don't know if anyone else has been keeping up with this story, but Alvin Greene is a unemployed former member of the Armed Forces who won the South Carolina Democratic primary with zero fund-raising, advertising or TV exposure. Oh yes, and he's also facing a felony obscenity charge.

Some people think he is a Republican plant while other SC Dem's think he might have a mental impairment.

Either way, the dude is nucking futs.

Looking for pictures of Alvin in the army? Nope -- I'll show you some baby photos.
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Greene on Keith Olbermann
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Are you ok right now? I'm fine.
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Mibabalou

06/14/10, 06:55 AM

Wait what?

J.C.

06/14/10, 07:26 AM

It's nice to see Republicans putting forward minority candidates.

zachff

06/14/10, 07:28 AM

Wait what?
Watch the videos. That's all I can say, it's pretty unbelievable.

zachff

06/14/10, 07:29 AM

It's nice to see Republicans putting forward minority candidates.
If it ends up that this guy is a plant (which would be extremely difficult to prove) it has to go down as one of the greatest political coups in a while.

Mibabalou

06/14/10, 07:44 AM

Watch the videos. That's all I can say, it's pretty unbelievable.

I wonder how he got 60% of the vote if he had no lit, press, ads, or anything. Maybe people just hated the other guy?

Healthy Scratch

06/14/10, 07:48 AM

that's amazing. lets hope he wins.

Jake Gyllenhaal

06/14/10, 07:50 AM

Yea, I brought this up in the 2010 Midterms thread. I am genuinely interested in how this plays out. Whether if he's a plant or not, he's a dream come true for South Carolina republicans.

zachff

06/14/10, 07:53 AM

I wonder how he got 60% of the vote if he had no lit, press, ads, or anything. Maybe people just hated the other guy?

He keeps repeating, "60% is not an accident," but it's well within the range of plausible random occurrences. Nevermind that his name was probably higher up on the ballot than his opponent (last name starting with V) and it's been shown that people will often just choose the first name they see. The other guy was just like a normal kind of guy, from what I gather.

zachff

06/14/10, 07:54 AM

Yea, I brought this up in the 2010 Midterms thread. I am genuinely interested in how this plays out. Whether if he's a plant or not, he's a dream come true for South Carolina republicans.
Yeah I searched but nothing came up, plus I figured this guy is so awesome he deserves his own thread.

loveisdead

06/14/10, 08:17 AM

Oh wow he is great.

Machu505

06/14/10, 09:26 AM

Clyburn is right. This does reek of elephant dung.

loveisdead

06/14/10, 09:28 AM

Clyburn is right. This does reek of elephant dung.

I'm holding my judgment.

Machu505

06/14/10, 09:39 AM

I'm holding my judgment.
This situation's suspiciousness is multi-tiered.

peder458

06/14/10, 09:43 AM

watching and listening to him answer questions is painful and unnerving. this whole situation is pretty unbelievable. the last video is excrutiating to watch.

Roboman

06/14/10, 10:14 AM

Jesus, I couldn't make it through the Olbermann interview because it was just too awkward. There's definitely something weird about him, notwithstanding the fact that he has a felony charge against him yet was allowed to run.

watching and listening to him answer questions is painful and unnerving. this whole situation is pretty unbelievable. the last video is excrutiating to watch.

Haha, I'm glad I'm not the only one who was weirded out by those interviews.

Mitch

06/14/10, 10:26 AM

This is crazy.

comfortwitness

06/14/10, 12:24 PM

As a south carolinian, and as someone generally associated with the left, I cannot believe that this has happened. This is even further bad news for our state which seems to constantly be caught in the cross hairs of misfortune. I am not certain what I believe, but I would not put it past the corrupt (in this state at least) GOP to organize and carry out the Greene campaign as a plant in order to make Jim Demint win. Note that Greene, who had little to say on anything, spouted the political history and experience that Demint had with presumably no reason other than to contrast the two candidates as a veteran of the system (demint) and someone that knows absolutely nothing of it (greene). Jim Demint is even viewed as possibly the MOST conservative member of the senate, so we aren't just talking about a typical republican shutting out a typical democrat. If something isn't done we will be having a far right (seriously, as in, he is FOR the abolishment of Separation of Church and State completely) bigot capsizing a planted GOP robot.

Healthy Scratch

06/14/10, 01:57 PM

if something isn't done? what could be done? even if the GOP is found to have sponsored this guy, i don't see how that breaks any rules.

jwicklun

06/14/10, 02:07 PM

I don't understand the guys motivation for staying. Doesn't he realize that he does not have a chance in hell of winning?

splitsecond

06/14/10, 02:26 PM

I don't understand the guys motivation for staying. Doesn't he realize that he does not have a chance in hell of winning?

So he should quite just because the party wants him to?

saysmydoctor

06/14/10, 02:35 PM

Nonissue. Alvin Greene or Vic Rawl, they were gonna lose regardless.

Not to mention, if he was a Republican plant--the Democrats do this all the time (they just are more subtle) and if he wasn't, it's irrelevant. He was popularly selected. He won't win.

Too bad, I'd have liked to see a Democratic version of Bunning.

jwicklun

06/14/10, 02:43 PM

So he should quite just because the party wants him to?

Because he's going to win this election by "good old fashion campaigning." He's unemployed, facing criminal charges, and has zero political experience. I don't know how the hell he has any expectations of winning.

jwicklun

06/14/10, 02:44 PM

splitsecond

06/14/10, 02:48 PM

Because he's going to win this election by "good old fashion campaigning." He's unemployed, facing criminal charges, and has zero political experience. I don't know how the hell he has any expectations of winning.

I mean, I agree that he has no real expectations of winning, but if he meets the criteria and wants to serve his state, then he should run in my opinion. Unless there was some clear setup (which hasnt been proven or really evidenced yet), he has that right even if he did win the primary by a mistake.

jwicklun

06/14/10, 02:50 PM

I mean, I agree that he has no real expectations of winning, but if he meets the criteria and wants to serve his state, then he should run in my opinion. Unless there was some clear setup (which hasnt been proven or really evidenced yet), he has that right even if he did win the primary by a mistake.

Dunno. Maybe he will get the Sarah Palin effect, and grow a following because he is "folksy." Just like what saysmydoctor said, both candidates really did not have much of a chance in winning, so it's probably best to sit back and relax and watch this disaster.

splitsecond

06/14/10, 02:52 PM

Dunno. Maybe he will get the Sarah Palin effect, and grow a following because he is "folksy." Just like what saysmydoctor said, both candidates really did not have much of a chance in winning, so it's probably best to sit back and relax and watch this disaster.

I hope they have televised debates, thats all I am sayin.

saysmydoctor

06/14/10, 02:58 PM

Let's be honest, Clyburn had no justification for that stupid ass comment and he should recant it. There is absolutely no evidence that this guy is plant.

Being stupid, awkward, and a creep doesn't make you an implant, it just makes you a South Carolinian zinggggggggggggg

jwicklun

06/14/10, 02:59 PM

I hope they have televised debates, thats all I am sayin.
I am looking forward to more debates and more disasterous interviews!

Gumbyjag

06/14/10, 03:07 PM

fuck that was awkward. something behind this is at work here, although he seems so transparent as to think if he really is real in this.

zachff

06/14/10, 04:14 PM

To the recent people saying why should he drop out -- because something is obviously wrong with him. Is it likely that a Democrat would in the regular election versus the GOP? No, probably not. But this guy has absolutely no shot. The Republican candidate in SC is one of the most conservative conservatives out there, so the Dems could trot out a very centrist candidate and have a decent (albeit still probably less than 50%) chance of beating him.

This guy winning the SC primary is honestly just embarrassing for everyone involved -- even I (IL resident) feel embarrassed as citizen of a country in which people voted for him.

Love As Arson

06/14/10, 04:25 PM

I'd vote for another unemployed person who was facing criminal charges, depending on what the crime was.

loveisdead

06/14/10, 04:44 PM

I hope they have televised debates, thats all I am sayin.

This is more or less my position on the whole thing. I want to milk it for all the laughs I can.

Jake Denning

06/14/10, 04:51 PM

haha, this is so awesome.

jwicklun

06/14/10, 05:36 PM

This is more or less my position on the whole thing. I want to milk it for all the laughs I can.

I am feeling the exact same way after Palin was nominated. I was just laughing my ass off as she was causing McCain's campaign crash and burn. This guy should bring in the LOLs.

yves.

06/14/10, 07:36 PM

i wonder if this state's politicians could get any worse.

fightinirish217

06/14/10, 07:55 PM

I just love watching CNN and the other news networks and watching the analysts and commentators just dumbfounded at this guy haha.

saysmydoctor

06/14/10, 08:11 PM

Thank you, Jon Stewart.

CollectiveConfusion

06/14/10, 08:15 PM

who voted for him? even if he is a plant, how does this happen?

caveBEAR

06/14/10, 08:36 PM

who voted for him? even if he is a plant, how does this happen?

People voted for someone they knew nothing about. It's not really all that confusing. Stupid people = stupid politician.

CollectiveConfusion

06/14/10, 08:41 PM

People voted for someone they knew nothing about. It's not really all that confusing. Stupid people = stupid politician.

i guess so. i just find it baffling that he actually got 60% of the vote. it seems surreal to me.

Jake Gyllenhaal

06/14/10, 09:27 PM

Voters need to pass a civics test to be given the right to vote. I'm all for democratic principles, but there are way too many idiots in this country.

Machu505

06/14/10, 09:42 PM

Voters need to pass a civics test to be given the right to vote.

How about not, Rep Tancredo.

Jake Gyllenhaal

06/14/10, 10:08 PM

How about not, Rep Tancredo.

Sorry if I came off as an elitist, but I've become too cynical with many Americans.

Oh dear

06/14/10, 10:56 PM

They talked about this on the Daily Show tonight. I laughed and cried. It's unnerving.

saysmydoctor

06/14/10, 11:45 PM

How about not, Rep Tancredo.
This is the most I've laughed in a while, thank you.

saysmydoctor

06/14/10, 11:52 PM

http://senatus.wordpress.com/2010/06/14/south-carolina-senate-vic-rawl-wants-new-democratic-primary/
Going about this the wrong way...

zachff

06/15/10, 05:24 AM

http://senatus.wordpress.com/2010/06/14/south-carolina-senate-vic-rawl-wants-new-democratic-primary/
Going about this the wrong way...

South Carolina has “open primaries, which means voters can choose to vote in either the Republican or Democratic contest.”
To get a new primary, Rawl doesn’t have to prove that voter fraud happened. He just has to lay out a convincing argument.

It sounds like from that Rawl is doing the right thing. The fact that it's an open primary makes it even more likely that this was a ramjob by the Republicans, albeit a great one.

zachff

06/15/10, 08:51 AM

Alvin Greene was a Terrible Soldier
http://gawker.com/5563087/south-carolina-mystery-candidate-alvin-greene-was-a-terrible-soldier

Healthy Scratch

06/15/10, 09:19 AM

the guy is nuts. he has absolutely no qualifications whatsoever. he appears to have some kind of mental disability. but that being said, you can't just overturn the process because you're embarassed you lost to the guy. he won, thats that. deal with it.

zion the lion

06/15/10, 01:57 PM

So you watch John Stewart and make a thread about something we all probably saw? Kudos.

edit: oh fuck me, that kid said it first.

Healthy Scratch

06/15/10, 02:35 PM

So you watch John Stewart and make a thread about something we all probably saw? Kudos.

edit: oh fuck me, that kid said it first.
what does your aunt think of this guy? thats what we're all really wanting to hear.

edit: and the thread was made before stewart reported on this. but thanks for playing.

zion the lion

06/15/10, 02:39 PM

what does your aunt think of this guy? thats what we're all really wanting to hear.

I assume you're talking about my aunt with the guns who's super right winged and loved palin...in which case, she doesnt give a fuck, she's talking about going to some church to raise the dead...and she's talking about my birthday (hopefully) politics dont interfere with the holy day of my birthday.

and she's more concerned with the lakers.

comfortwitness

06/15/10, 07:56 PM

who voted for him? even if he is a plant, how does this happen?

well, if he was a plant, then the republicans voted for him.
In South Carolina at least, anyone can vote in any primary they choose.

zion the lion

06/15/10, 08:18 PM

Does anyone honestly think he is a plant?

CollectiveConfusion

06/15/10, 08:30 PM

well, if he was a plant, then the republicans voted for him.
In South Carolina at least, anyone can vote in any primary they choose.

seems like a huge conspiracy, but i didn't know south carolina had an open primary, so that makes a lot more sense. probably should have looked that up before i asked ha

Does anyone honestly think he is a plant?

....most of the people on cnn, nbc, abc, pretty much every network except fox.... the people of south carolina, the rest of the nation.... turn on the tv.

zion the lion

06/15/10, 08:35 PM

seems like a huge conspiracy, but i didn't know south carolina had an open primary, so that makes a lot more sense. probably should have looked that up before i asked ha

....most of the people on cnn, nbc, abc, pretty much every network except fox.... the people of south carolina, the rest of the nation.... turn on the tv.

...see, I dont do that because then all I get is shit about that damn oil leak and then I turn the news off. And I asked if anyone really honestly thought he was a plant, not if they talked about how he could possibly be a plant in a million billion years.

Its more likely that people were fucking lazy and didnt do any research and just decided to vote for whichever name looked the prettiest. That's way more likely.

CollectiveConfusion

06/15/10, 08:37 PM

Its more likely that people were fucking lazy and didnt do any research and just decided to vote for whichever name looked the prettiest. That's way more likely.

i agree with you, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of people think he was a plant.

zion the lion

06/15/10, 08:40 PM

i agree with you, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of people think he was a plant.

And those people are just looking for an excuse for everyone else's laziness.

CollectiveConfusion

06/15/10, 08:43 PM

And those people are just looking for an excuse for everyone else's laziness.

doesn't matter. they still think he's a plant.

zion the lion

06/15/10, 09:02 PM

doesn't matter. they still think he's a plant.

What the hell is happening to the country? I'm going to go into the mountains with my guns and just live there from now on if this shit continues and people cant just use common sense.

Jake Gyllenhaal

06/15/10, 09:11 PM

What the hell is happening to the country? I'm going to go into the mountains with my guns and just live there from now on if this shit continues and people cant just use common sense.

You must idolize Randy Weaver

zion the lion

06/15/10, 09:15 PM

You must idolize Randy Weaver

I idolize things like common sense and jesus.

saysmydoctor

06/15/10, 09:23 PM

I idolize things like common sense and jesus.
Bold statement.

zion the lion

06/15/10, 09:37 PM

Bold statement.

I use it quite a lot, as much as I possibly can on a mind altering drug and with a disorder that makes me deal with things that arent even "real" on a daily basis. So no, its not much of a bold statement at all.

saysmydoctor

06/15/10, 09:41 PM

I use it quite a lot, as much as I possibly can on a mind altering drug and with a disorder that makes me deal with things that arent even "real" on a daily basis. So no, its not much of a bold statement at all.
I solemnly swear that I will never ever feel sorry for whatever bullshit you are going through so you can stop telling me all the time.

zion the lion

06/15/10, 09:53 PM

I solemnly swear that I will never ever feel sorry for whatever bullshit you are going through so you can stop telling me all the time.

I'd be a little bit offended if you started pitying me for something that was apart of me like that so that's good news.

And honestly how many times have I told you personally about what state of reality I'm in? Pretty much none. So if you're trying to offend me or hurt my feelings, you're failing miserably, you already know the only way you can actually offend me now is to say something about the color of my skin and I doubt you'll do that.

jwicklun

06/15/10, 10:17 PM

:wallbash:
please, let's not go through this AGAIN.

Oh dear

06/15/10, 10:25 PM

doesn't matter. they still think he's a plant.

http://www.replicaplants.co.uk/new-plants-057.jpg

^^^^THAT'S a plant.

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

loveisdead

06/15/10, 10:34 PM

http://www.replicaplants.co.uk/new-plants-057.jpg

^^^^THAT'S a plant.

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

http://jenbelowsealevel.files.wordpress.co m/2008/10/robert_plant1.jpg
So is this.

Oh dear

06/15/10, 10:39 PM

http://jenbelowsealevel.files.wordpress.co m/2008/10/robert_plant1.jpg
So is this.

Hot.

zion the lion

06/15/10, 11:10 PM

http://jenbelowsealevel.files.wordpress.co m/2008/10/robert_plant1.jpg
So is this.

when I was 7 I was convinced I was going to marry that man...I wasnt aware of the aging process or really anything.

Machu505

06/17/10, 01:01 PM

Time Magazine's Man of the Year, 2010: Alvin Greene (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/alvin_greene_i_am_the_next_time_mag azine_man_of_th.php?ref=fpc)

Jake Gyllenhaal

06/17/10, 01:03 PM

Time Magazine's Man of the Year, 2010: Alvin Greene (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/alvin_greene_i_am_the_next_time_mag azine_man_of_th.php?ref=fpc)

:lol:

Dan1234

06/19/10, 11:51 AM

I am a South Carolina Democrat and i can say that this was incredibly fucking embarrassing. I think most of the people that went out and voted educated themselves on the gubernatorial election with Sheheen and while they were there they voted for Alvin Greene because they liked the way his name sounds better than Vic Rawl. I can understand that the Republicans are gonna be cold hearted fucking assholes about everything.... but when our side, the Democrats(who are supposed to be the good guys) can't even put up a good fight... then it just gets downright pathetic. Our state just sucks.

45 thousand people die every year cuz they can't afford health insurance, we have two wars, endless poverty in a recession, and all of that isn't enough to motivate people to do 5 minutes of goddamn research on the vote for United States goddamn Senate. Just fucking incredible. It baffles me on how goddamn dumb people are content to be.

caveBEAR

06/19/10, 07:48 PM

majinsharingan

06/27/10, 06:05 AM

This just doesn't sound good at all to me. Too suspicious. Obama had insane amount of coverage, fund-raising, etc...etc...and still barely beat out that rambling idiot and his/her housewife. How he did it I don't know but I know I'm glad to not live in South Carolina.

Bodich26

06/27/10, 07:29 AM

Some people think he is a Republican plant while other SC Dem's think he might have a mental impairment.

loveisdead

07/10/10, 11:42 AM

Alvin Greene apparently did pay for his own registration fee.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/10/alvin-greene-paid-senate-_n_641691.html

Healthy Scratch

07/10/10, 11:52 AM

don't most candidates receive donations to their campaigns anyway? so what's wrong if somebody DID pay his fee for him? does someone have to be rich or have rich friends to run for office?

Mitch

07/10/10, 07:39 PM

I want to sit down and chat with this dude so bad for some reason.

Jake Gyllenhaal

07/10/10, 07:42 PM

At this point, as saysmydoctor stated, this is becoming a non-issue. Alvin Green is going to lose anyways to the expected Republican victor and he will fade away from notoriety.

loveisdead

07/10/10, 07:48 PM

I want to sit down and chat with this dude so bad for some reason.

Go get drunk.

Mitch

07/10/10, 07:57 PM

If I weren't so tired I'd say that's a great idea.

loveisdead

07/10/10, 08:04 PM

If I weren't so tired I'd say that's a great idea.

I'll have a drink for you then.

Mitch

07/10/10, 08:07 PM

I'll have a drink for you then.

Make that three and I'll appreciate it.

loveisdead

07/10/10, 08:29 PM

Make that three and I'll appreciate it.

Consider it done.

xemilylovespopx

07/15/10, 03:06 PM

What do you guys think about this guy having a GOP push? It seems the only reasonable answer imo. He overtook the leading democrat just because his name alone.. He was dishonorably discharged from the army. I honestly don't see any hope for him winning, especially it being south carolina.