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xearlynovemberx
10/05/06, 02:24 PM
First off i want to thank you for taking the time out to do this interview.

No problem at all, Rob.

What is the current status of the band since you guys were dropped?

Everyone is doing their own thing as of right now. Most of us are trying to rejoin the real world the best we can and a few of us are continuing to play music.

What made you guys select Rushmore over any other labels that were looking at you guys?

- We were originally offered a contract by Richard and Stefanie the day we met them about 4 years ago for the new label they were starting called Rushmore Records. Rushmore at the time was going to become the new Drive-Thru in a sense because Drive-Thru was stuck with MCA under an awful contract that they couldn't get out of. They were eventually going to move all the Drive-Thru bands that they had left (or that MCA had not taken from them) to Rushmore Records. Being as that was, things didn't stay the way as planned, but we remained good friends with Richard and Stefanie until we finally received our contract 3 years later.

If another label offered you a contract at the time do you think you still would have signed with Rushmore given the relationship you guys had with Richard And Stefanie?

If another label was interested, by the band's decision, chances are we probably would not have gone with it. It would have really depended upon the other offers we would have received from other labels.

Had you guys signed to another label, where do you think the band would be?

It's hard to tell where a band could go without the possible opportunity.

Given what has been said by Richard and the band, what are your feelings on the whole situation? Do they differ from the band's?

The band's release made our break-up seem like everything was all Drive-Thru's fault, meanwhile Drive-Thru's reply made it seem that it was all the band's fault. I think it was a combination of both. Madison's breakup was due to a long list of problems that were just getting worse over time. Bands always say that they're not in it for the money and it's all about the music, but they are definitely lying. Being in a band is a business. Money is everything these days and you will get nowhere without it. We had all invested so much money into this band, buying and maintaining equipment, keeping our merch display as updated as we could, buying our own van and trailer and having to maintain those as well. We've funded every tour we have ever been on on our own, from paying for gas and tolls, to being able to eat every day out of our own pocket. Over time, when you don't see an income, just a bigger hole being put into your wallet, it's only so long you can take before something has to be done. I'd say about 6 months after we started writing our full length, we had 20 songs written and were ready to record. We sat at home practicing and recording on our own for a few more months trying to make these songs the best we could until we finally started to get back on the road again because we knew we were not going to be able to record anytime soon. With our luck, when we finally booked some solid tours, our van problems caught up to us and every attempt we made to leave for a show was just another problem we were running into with our van. Every day was just us dumping whatever money we had left into trying to fix up our van so we could just make the next show.

Another problem was in the last few months, members stopped showing up for practice to do other things like sleep in, go shopping, playing video games, or whatever excuse they could use that day. It's sad to see a band that worked so hard fall apart because they are sick of just waiting to do something. "Get off your ass and do something then." "You can't expect things to happen without doing something", is probably what you're saying to yourself right about now. Well, we have been "doing something" for the 5 years that we were a band. We have toured the country countless times on our own, we have met so many bands that weve helped and watch grow. We have never just sat around waiting for something to happen. Try touring off of a CD that you don't have out and tell me how easy it is to be in a band. Our EP that was released by Fidelity was in select stores for a short period of time and only sold on the internet. We stopped receiving copies to sell at shows for God only knows what reason, not to mention we never saw a dime for the 5,000 copies we've sold on our own when we had a 50/50 deal with the label. When the EP had stopped being pressed, it seemed pointless to try to tour off something we didn't have. We watched our crowd get smaller and smaller every time we went out, but there was nothing we could do about it except just wait until we were able to record again and release something new.

When did you first notice things were falling apart?

I'd have to say June 2005 is when we started having problems.

Was there alot of arguing going on between you guys; did you address the problems?

We all talked about problems when we felt it was time to, but for the most part, everything was done behind someone's back. I always thought being in a band was just playing music with your friends. It definitely started out just as that, but then everything turned into a "professional relationship" as time went on.

Did you find it hard to maintain a friendship with the guys after everything went down?

I found it hard to maintain a friendship with everyone long before that... I think everyone will agree to it. Being in a band with Madison was like having 5 other girlfriends all at once. You try to keep everyone as happy as you can just by doing what they ask and by helping them out. People change and over the past 5 years we all went through a lot together, good and bad. But we all know who each other are and for those reasons I've based my own opinions on each of the members. I still speak and hang out with a few of them, and I am definitely still friendly towards everyone.


What is your best memory when the band was together?

It's hard to say. I have just one that tops them all though. Warped Tour was an experience like no other. I've never wanted to die so badly in my life from the long days and the obnoxious heat we had to deal with, but yet had the time of my life playing it. The Senses Fail tour we did was another experience that i will always carry. I couldn't dream of better shows than the shows we played on that tour. I'd also have to say a lot of the long van rides we've had, like the ones over 15 hours straight because everyone would just start loosing their mind and they would become the most entertaining group of people I've ever met. Seeing the county and visiting places I thought I'd never see while meeting the most interesting people and making tons of new friends was definitely a plus too.

Would you change anything if you could?

Absolutely. I would have never dropped out of high school or quit my day job. I fucked up!

Any plans to go back to school or get a G.E.D.?

I'm studying to get my G.E.D. and will take the test as soon as I'm ready. I would like to go to full Sail in Orlando to get my degree in game development and film. But as of right now, I'm going to take some time to get my life back on track, get a job, earn some cash again, and then decide from there if I will pursue going to school.

In what way has this experience changed your life?

All the sacrifices I've made were always for the band. I've pretty much grown up being in a band so everything just kind of adds up and makes me who I am today. For all that to just end, I don't know if it's a relief or if it's just opening me up to a greater opportunity. Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get.

Given the chance to wipe the slate clean would you consider to continue on with Madison?

I loved our music and took pride in everything weve done, but no, I would not.

Anything else you would like to say before we wrap this up?

Thank you, Rob and the rest of Absolutepunk.net for this interview. Thank you to everyone who has been so supportive for everything I've done. I know this interview probably just fueled the fire, but I hope you all can see where I am coming from.

zizou1790
10/05/06, 02:58 PM
thats kind of depressing

thisisadisaster
10/05/06, 03:00 PM
wow. that clears up alot of the questions i had about why rushmore records existed.

monicaaaa!
10/05/06, 03:05 PM
i had no idea for the reasoning behind rushmore records, but i guess that all makes sense now.

that's all kind of depressing though..

ARo2431
10/05/06, 03:08 PM
Hes definetly in a tough situation. I hope he can get himself together. Good luck man

concretedetail
10/05/06, 03:15 PM
very interesting

shoop
10/05/06, 03:34 PM
poor guy.. Good luck to them and anything they do in the future.. really sounds like they deserve it.

christophaaa
10/05/06, 03:51 PM
good to see a review of what happened from someone else in the band. best of luck to each of them with their careers.

ThisCutIsDeep
10/05/06, 03:54 PM
Full sails game design would eat him alive.

jimmypistol
10/05/06, 05:00 PM
shortest...interview...ever. but what there was, was good.

stevecrumb
10/05/06, 05:06 PM
Full sails game design would eat him alive.

that's sweet. i guess you went through that program? and apparently you know this guy, rich, really well. i hope you can get to him before he wastes all that money and let him know that he's gonna fail.

playcraktheskyy
10/05/06, 05:36 PM
I cant believe he really said "Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get"

oh no its colin
10/05/06, 05:36 PM
that's sweet. i guess you went through that program? and apparently you know this guy, rich, really well. i hope you can get to him before he wastes all that money and let him know that he's gonna fail.


i was waiting for that.

Maxwell Edison
10/05/06, 06:53 PM
Good interview; rich seems to have a well-balanced view of everything that's happened.

ThisCutIsDeep
10/05/06, 08:18 PM
that's sweet. i guess you went through that program? and apparently you know this guy, rich, really well. i hope you can get to him before he wastes all that money and let him know that he's gonna fail.


As A matter of fact. I did go through the program. you stupid cunt. We have to do math your small little brain couldnt even dream of. So keep your mouth shut before you open it. No one who has never finished high school will never make it in the program. its just that simple.

emiliodelgado
10/05/06, 08:35 PM
As A matter of fact. I did go through the program. you stupid cunt. We have to do math your small little brain couldnt even dream of. So keep your mouth shut before you open it. No one who has never finished high school will never make it in the program. its just that simple.
now youre being the stupid cunt. just because you probably didnt get into any other schools and you ended up in shitty FullSail doesnt mean you have to be such a little bitch about it.

ThisCutIsDeep
10/05/06, 08:42 PM
now youre being the stupid cunt. just because you probably didnt get into any other schools and you ended up in shitty FullSail doesnt mean you have to be such a little bitch about it.

Finish High school first kiddo. then we'll talk. go out and go to school for 12 to 16 hours a day. and you tell me how you handle it. you tell me how shitty full sail is. Okay, thanks. Bye.

emiliodelgado
10/05/06, 08:47 PM
taht's how the industry is, and I have gone to school for 12 to 16 hours a day before. Stop whining and trying to win pity for your poor workaholic self. I have a lot of friends at FullSail who say it's way too easy for their liking and the teachers suck. You havent even said it was good.

00spool
10/05/06, 08:51 PM
As A matter of fact. I did go through the program. you stupid cunt. We have to do math your small little brain couldnt even dream of. So keep your mouth shut before you open it. No one who has never finished high school will never make it in the program. its just that simple.

I guess grammar isn't a requirement.

Name_Taken
10/05/06, 09:15 PM
that was a sad interview..i wish Madison never broke up and their full-length came out...i wish he explained what all happened though

emoishardcore
10/05/06, 09:41 PM
bah...i want an interview with steve. screw rushmore

iheartJDepp
10/05/06, 09:41 PM
As A matter of fact. I did go through the program. you stupid cunt. We have to do math your small little brain couldnt even dream of. So keep your mouth shut before you open it. No one who has never finished high school will never make it in the program. its just that simple.

Holier than thou this guy is.

Julia Conny
10/05/06, 10:07 PM
It's nice to hear some honesty.

oceanblue
10/05/06, 11:03 PM
Finish High school first kiddo. then we'll talk. go out and go to school for 12 to 16 hours a day. and you tell me how you handle it. you tell me how shitty full sail is. Okay, thanks. Bye.

Is that really necessary? I never took higher level math in high school, I never took an art class, physics, or used CAD. Yet somehow I have made it through two algebra courses, design courses,and numerous other things. I'm halfway to my Interior Arihitecture batchelors, I'm pretty sure if he took the time and put in the effort Rich could comlepte a game design program.

Notice how I got the point arcoss with out making myself look unintelligent, you could have done the same.

Pascal DeMaria
10/05/06, 11:56 PM
Is that really necessary? I never took higher level math in high school, I never took an art class, physics, or used CAD. Yet somehow I have made it through two algebra courses, design courses,and numerous other things. I'm halfway to my Interior Arihitecture batchelors, I'm pretty sure if he took the time and put in the effort Rich could comlepte a game design program.

Notice how I got the point arcoss with out making myself look unintelligent, you could have done the same.

HAHAHA

it's spelled BACHELOR'S you batcher.

failedXromance
10/06/06, 12:11 AM
As A matter of fact. I did go through the program. you stupid cunt. We have to do math your small little brain couldnt even dream of. So keep your mouth shut before you open it. No one who has never finished high school will never make it in the program. its just that simple.

I have a buddy that went to full sail that didnt graduate high school. not trying to be mean, but, high school doesnt mean shit. he did game design there, and, his girl, who also never graduated high school, went for film. and before u start saying shit, they didnt graduate HS cause they became hippies and started following around the dead and phish

Chris Fallon
10/06/06, 01:38 AM
Sounds similar (in some aspects) to Brett from The Juliana Theory's situation regarding the reasons for their break-up. Both are depressing, really.

Good interview, Roberto. I was happy to see him basically confess to the fact that everything was in their own doing, and refrain from talking shit about Drive-Thru.

tommyhaych
10/06/06, 02:28 AM
Sounds similar (in some aspects) to Brett from The Juliana Theory's situation regarding the reasons for their break-up. Both are depressing, really.

Good interview, Roberto. I was happy to see him basically confess to the fact that everything was in their own doing, and refrain from talking shit about Drive-Thru.


Yeah it felt a lot more mature (unlike the majority of the replies in this thread).

He seems to be bring this situation slowly to the ground instead of another member smashing it into the sidewalk.

nickyrayxnj
10/06/06, 08:41 AM
i miss madison

jimmypistol
10/06/06, 10:23 AM
in an argument about how smart everyone is it is amazing how DUMB so many of you are. The spelling of Batcheloors (or however you spelled it) was SO off. I love it. and the double negative from the guy that went to DeVry...i mean Full Sail...was pretty awesome too. idiots.

abbreviation
10/06/06, 10:26 AM
Full Sail tuition is ridiculous. If he's poor now, then there's no way he'll be able to afford Full Sail even if he did financial aid and whatev.

sosadsoemo
10/06/06, 11:07 AM
full sail is an intense program. the stage production degree has you work in all hours of the day to experience what it would be like in the real world. i applied there (500 dollar+ application fee) and got denied when i was top 10% of my class. they said they wouldnt accept my dual enrollment credits and it would be a waste of those credits. so i guess it was a good thing.


but the interview was good because he didnt take a certain side, and no trash talking. best of luck to him.

jawstheme417
10/06/06, 02:13 PM
i go to ucf in basically the same area as full sail, i have a few friends that go there..its a good school but its expensive as hell and sometime u have like 12 hour classes and weird crap like that

Julia Conny
10/06/06, 03:52 PM
Can someone please explain what Full Sail is?

TheBaroness
10/06/06, 10:58 PM
very insightful interview. he handled the whole situation with class.

Crav3n
11/06/06, 06:14 PM
Im going to miss this band. Madison was the first band MY old band ever opened for. And an honor it was.

reneexlmao
12/28/07, 04:42 PM
madison was a great band! their last show was soo sad too, but you should all check out rich's new band tell me tell you