They're Too Big for AP Now

[Jason Tate]

The first "review" of Brand New (http://www.absolutepunk.net/brandnew)'s new album has been posted on Billboard.com (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id= 1003223808).

[Jason Tate]

Jesus Christ ........... (pun intended).

[miltownrob]

nobody will ever be too big for ap. nobody

[tidesdontexist]

that was more of a sum up of the cd rather than a review...

[Kaystarmaker]

good god. that sounds aweful :( this better be totaly not what billboard is trying to sell it as >_<


and...does this mean leakage is upon us?

edit: i just realised... "welcome to banckok" an all-intrumental sound? that sounds even worse!

[ATDIdakota]

Sounds like they like it.

[tidesdontexist]

good god. that sounds aweful :( this better be totaly not what billboard is trying to sell it as >_<


and...does this mean leakage is upon us?

The CD doesn't sound awful...it was just a horrible review

[xearlynovemberx]

That review didnt lower my expectations

[PomonaForEmpusa]

i'm actually looking forward to this more than i thought i would.

[Greg]

an instrumental.... interesting for BN

[overoverme]

Sounds like they like it.

I'm excited.
Review copies are going around, but if I were Brand New and their management there will be more than the usual policing of leaks for this...

Marchand, if you have heard 'yeah' live, you would understand.
But it goes to say that Billboard doesn't choose their words well.
It just means the sudden turn to all out Lacey screaming.

[Jason Tate]

that was more of a sum up of the cd rather than a review...

Hence the "quotes" - it's a literal review of the material on the disc.

good god. that sounds aweful :( this better be totaly not what billboard is trying to sell it as >_<


and...does this mean leakage is upon us?

edit: i just realised... "welcome to banckok" an all-intrumental sound? that sounds even worse!

Are you fucking serious? You sound like you're smoking the pipe too much (as also evident by your typing habits).

[Jared Kaufman]

here's something i posted in the staff forum:

so my goal is to hold out on hearing the new album until the day it's actually released, in stores, and on shelves. i haven't had the feeling of being so excited for an album, literally running to and in the store and back to the car, then feverishly ripping off the shrink wrap in quite some time. actually, the last time i believe was with deja entendu. anway, the point is, i'd like to have that feeling again. what would be more appropriate than having it with new brand new? exactly. the point is, i'm asking all of you to NOT send me this album no matter what. i don't care if i plea, beg and cry -- just ignore me or do whatever it takes to get it through my thick skull that i'm not allowed to hear it until november 21st. hopefully this doesn't leak until a week before, then i'll have no problem holding out. i'm counting on you guys to help me here, seeing as i lack anything resembling self-control.

with that being said, this is going to take A LOT of will power, self-control and so forth. but i know i can do it, and the feeling of accomplishing such a task and then just the overall excitement for the record itself, will be beyond well-worth it.

[TMartin442]

idk if i should read the reviews or not. i cant decide if i wanna be surprised the day it comes out or not. hmmmm

[waggy]

so who's matching lyrics up to song titles? i only recognized the "yeah" lyrics, but it's been a while since i listened to the demos.

[tidesdontexist]

Hence the "quotes" - it's a literal review of the material on the disc.

Yeah what I meant is that they more critiqued the album then providing their own personal opinion on the disc.

[skeeter988]

i thought it was "shes losing them to drinking and to driving" i guess drugs makes more sense

[Jason Tate]

Yeah what I meant is that they more critiqued the album then providing their own personal opinion on the disc.
Yeah.

[Drew Beringer]

Hardcore attack mode, haha sounds like something I would write.

[70x7]

I don't see how an instrumenta track is "weird" for Brand New. I haven't seen them live in a long time, but back around 2002 or 2003, whenever they were at the tail end of touring on Your Favorite Weapon, tons of songs had elongated instrumental part at many points in songs. Now I know that 99% of their current fanbas didn't know they existed back then, but this really isn't a big shock.

[petey536]

im with jared on this one, i do not want to hear a second of the cd till its out

[petey536]

but im like that with any band i really enjoy

[Jason Tate]

I don't see how an instrumenta track is "weird" for Brand New. I haven't seen them live in a long time, but back around 2002 or 2003, whenever they were at the tail end of touring on Your Favorite Weapon, tons of songs had elongated instrumental part at many points in songs. Now I know that 99% of their current fanbas didn't know they existed back then, but this really isn't a big shock.
First tour I saw them on .. they would just solo for 2 or 3 minutes while playing.

[Suprhatch614]

"review" < REVIEW (<-- which I eagerly anticipate from AP, wink wink, nudge nudge)

[SwedishHeat]

with that being said, this is going to take A LOT of will power, self-control and so forth. but i know i can do it, and the feeling of accomplishing such a task and then just the overall excitement for the record itself, will be beyond well-worth it.

I remember Deja leaking and letting it sit for at least 2-3 days before I finally listened to it. It wasn't THAT big of a deal.

[BN3131]

I think it sounds good. I am so excited for this album. I've been telling everyone who will listen to me that I can't wait for November and this review just got me more excited.

[Codered11]

umm...that review or whatever got me excited...just brings you to realization its getting closer to the release date

[Jason Tate]

I remember Deja leaking and letting it sit for at least 2-3 days before I finally listened to it. It wasn't THAT big of a deal.
Deja "leaked" twice. Demo version/real thing.

[hot time in DE]

that was such a pointless "review"

[brandnewfan01]

what you think about the "review" jason

[Kaystarmaker]

Are you fucking serious? You sound like you're smoking the pipe too much (as also evident by your typing habits).
hey! just because i'm dutch....well forget that obligatory joke.

Yeah I'm serious, but seeing everyone else's reaction i think that has more to do with me being dutch and not usually reading reviews by billboard, then what they are actually trying to say :)

still not feeling to well on the instrumental song though.

edit: before making assumptions: i have both YFW and Deja in my cd collection, though only found out about them after the release of deja.

[Jason Tate]

that was such a pointless "review"
All "reviews" are "pointless" - there's no REAL need for them.

[Jason Tate]

hey! just because i'm dutch....well forget that obligatory joke.

Yeah I'm serious, but seeing everyone else's reaction i think that has more to do with me being dutch and not usually reading reviews by billboard, then what they are actually trying to say :)

still not feeling to well on the instrumental song though.
:-|

[Ailite]

Gets me a bit more excited.

[takingbackrufio]

On the right column of the page at the bottom under people it lists "Jesus Christ". :lol:

[underthetalking]

good god. that sounds aweful :( this better be totaly not what billboard is trying to sell it as >_<


and...does this mean leakage is upon us?

edit: i just realised... "welcome to banckok" an all-intrumental sound? that sounds even worse!


You're whats wrong with music these days.

[Steve Henderson]

All "reviews" are "pointless" - there's no REAL need for them.

Blasphemy!

[OilyTheOtter]

Misery and love meet on "Limousine," where the sweet plucks on an acoustic guitar are offset by the miasma of creepy sounds in the background. "I can dish it out/but I can't take it," Lacey admits, "I love you so much/but do me a favor, baby/don't reply."

"I love you so much/it hurts my head" Possibly??

[underthetalking]

but im like that with any band i really enjoy

I agree.

[Jared Kaufman]

"I love you so much/it hurts my head" Possibly??
that's "take apart your head" aka "degausser."

[Mitch]

That made me very excited for the album for some reason.

[theacademyis]

Luca is demo 6 I do believe unless they have another song about sending someone to the bottom of the ocean. If you heard six live, they added a bridge that has lyrics regarding it

[Jason Tate]

Billboard.com is not punk rock.

[WordzandDreamz]

Luca is demo 6 I do believe unless they have another song about sending someone to the bottom of the ocean. If you heard six live, they added a bridge that has lyrics regarding it

Yeah, I think you are right. That was my first thought at least.

[notoaststereo]

my expectations are still low... but i hope im wrong

[Jason Tate]

my expectations are still low... but i hope im wrong
Hey, if you like GAD's Self-Titled, I think you're gonna be okay with this one.

Just a guess though.:-p

[dekdog11]

yea im pretty excited. j tate when you getting your hands on this bad boy?

[Jason Tate]

yea im pretty excited. j tate when you getting your hands on this bad boy?
:shrug:

They don't like the internet. I refuse to download any "leak" though .. I will only listen to this when I can be alone with the lyrics and the album. I want the final product, and I will not be in any forum chats about the CD until after it's in stores. I don't want to hear people's thoughts/comments/bitching ... I want to make my own mind up and experience the music.

[dekdog11]

:shrug:

They don't like the internet. I refuse to download any "leak" though .. I will only listen to this when I can be alone with the lyrics and the album. I want the final product, and I will not be in any forum chats about the CD until after it's in stores. I don't want to hear people's thoughts/comments/bitching ... I want to make my own mind up and experience the music.

Hmm yea I'm really going to try and do the same and wait until the day it comes out and not read about the forums as well but I'm not sure if I can do it...I will definitely try though.

I don't even think it will leak until at earliest a week before release...if it even leaks. I hope they keep it safe and it doesn't leak until like the day/day before it comes out.

[Jason Tate]

Hmm yea I'm really going to try and do the same and wait until the day it comes out and not read about the forums as well but I'm not sure if I can do it...I will definitely try though.

I don't even think it will leak until at earliest a week before release...if it even leaks. I hope they keep it safe and it doesn't leak until like the day/day before it comes out.
Yeah .. it'll hit at the latest on the 18th/19th .. once stores get it in the UK.

[dukeboy1986]

No comment.

[MasonR5]

i feel like a little teenie school girl waiting for this

^^^that hasn't been said yet, has it?

[Jason Tate]

I wonder how long it will be until its available for preorder
any guesses?
Hmm .. nope. I'll try to find out.

[BrandNizzle]

The "miasma of creepy sounds" on Limousine interests me.

Call me an elitist, but I sure hope they lose a lot of their female "Jesse is so hawt omg" fans because of this album, and in turn gain more credible ones that focus on the music.

[RandomHero1230]

here's something i posted in the staff forum:

so my goal is to hold out on hearing the new album until the day it's actually released, in stores, and on shelves. i haven't had the feeling of being so excited for an album, literally running to and in the store and back to the car, then feverishly ripping off the shrink wrap in quite some time. actually, the last time i believe was with deja entendu. anway, the point is, i'd like to have that feeling again. what would be more appropriate than having it with new brand new? exactly. the point is, i'm asking all of you to NOT send me this album no matter what. i don't care if i plea, beg and cry -- just ignore me or do whatever it takes to get it through my thick skull that i'm not allowed to hear it until november 21st. hopefully this doesn't leak until a week before, then i'll have no problem holding out. i'm counting on you guys to help me here, seeing as i lack anything resembling self-control.

with that being said, this is going to take A LOT of will power, self-control and so forth. but i know i can do it, and the feeling of accomplishing such a task and then just the overall excitement for the record itself, will be beyond well-worth it.

I know exactly how you feel, and I'm doing the same thing. I've even refused to listen to the demos

[ozzysaxman]

didn't give one opinion on the cd. gah.

[Salomonbz90]

Only 1+ pages of replies..wtf?


Get with it n00bs!

[Salomonbz90]

The "miasma of creepy sounds" on Limousine interests me.

Call me an elitist, but I sure hope they lose a lot of their female "Jesse is so hawt omg" fans because of this album, and in turn gain more credible ones that focus on the music.
Very respectable comment..thank you.

[playcraktheskyy]

Soooo we got to see some of the lyrics...thats all I really got out of that. I hate when they try to explain how the music sounds. So annoying. Sounds like my first bands bio when I was 13. "heavy bass line" "shredding guitars" "big drum breaks" yada yada yada thanks for the new myspace about me's i'll be seeing all over the place now.

[Poultrylicious]

i have to keep away from this site

i wasn't sure if brand new would be able to top deja or YFW

but this hype thing made Nov. 21st a little further

[dc0511]

I know exactly how you feel, and I'm doing the same thing. I've even refused to listen to the demos

Commitment. True team player.

[Heartcore]

The lyrics that billboard quoted in the article don't really excite me too much, nothing special. Then again, It's only when Jesse Lacey's lyrics are presented with the music that they really have their full effect, so to speak. Therefore, the jury is still out until the album is released and presented to me in its entirety.

[omgjames]

its gonna be exactly like deja entendu

[zizou1790]

immm sooo fucking excited for this.

[matt_rawlings]

here's something i posted in the staff forum:

so my goal is to hold out on hearing the new album until the day it's actually released, in stores, and on shelves. i haven't had the feeling of being so excited for an album, literally running to and in the store and back to the car, then feverishly ripping off the shrink wrap in quite some time. actually, the last time i believe was with deja entendu. anway, the point is, i'd like to have that feeling again. what would be more appropriate than having it with new brand new? exactly. the point is, i'm asking all of you to NOT send me this album no matter what. i don't care if i plea, beg and cry -- just ignore me or do whatever it takes to get it through my thick skull that i'm not allowed to hear it until november 21st. hopefully this doesn't leak until a week before, then i'll have no problem holding out. i'm counting on you guys to help me here, seeing as i lack anything resembling self-control.

with that being said, this is going to take A LOT of will power, self-control and so forth. but i know i can do it, and the feeling of accomplishing such a task and then just the overall excitement for the record itself, will be beyond well-worth it.

:appl:

That's exactly what I'm doing

[ihatecayte]

i heard that demo 6, what you guys are attatching to the title "luca" was only gonna be a b-side, along with demo 1.
but what the hell do i know?

that was a lame excuse for a review... but i still don't care. november 21st can't come soon enough.

[crit]

...halting abruptly for the scary and lonesome "Luca," a tale of sending one's lover to the bottom of the sea.
I didn't read the comments to this so maybe it's been said...but it sounds like "Luca" is demo 6.

[amritaaa]

that was interesting. it didn't tell me anything, but made me really really really a lot more excited than i already am. so that's good i guess.

[ResideInMyMind]

So which song is the best, Tate?

1. "Sowing Season (Yeah)"
2. "Millstone"
3. "Jesus Christ"
4. "Degausser"
5. "Limousine"
6. "You Won't Know"
7. "Welcome to Bangkok" (Instrumental)
8. "Not the Sun"
9. "Luca"
10. "Untitled"
11. "Archers"
12. "Handcuffs"

...and I find it ironic that one of the songs is titled "Untitled."

[ResideInMyMind]

and what happened to Take Apart Your Head? is that the Beer 2 track?

[ResideInMyMind]

And I think "Handcuffs," the longest track, could be untitled 5, since thats long and deals with a stick-up.

Conclusion to my 3 posts: Tate, I need answers.

[fallout1819]

i dont care what any review says, i'm still buying the album and i'll make my own judgement of it. i'm sure its going to kick massive ass. can't wait til november 21st.

[ikeepadiary]

tate--
didn't you say you'd tell us which of the songs are demos?
Right now I've been led to believe that only "Sowing Season (Yeah/demo 8)" and "You Won't Know (demo 6)" made the final cut.

Also...interesting that "Luca" is about a lover at the bottom of the ocean. In the press release they mentioned the new songs that they had played live and "Luca" was not one of them. And in the street team interview Jesse talked about how much he loved "me and Vin's double guitar wig-out on 'You Won't Know,'" which is characteristic of the supposed "You Won't Know" that's been played live.

[crit]

and what happened to Take Apart Your Head? is that the Beer 2 track?
No. the Beer 2 song was the soco remix, if i remember correctly. i know for certain is not a new song.

[nfggc10]

No. the Beer 2 song was the soco remix, if i remember correctly. i know for certain is not a new song.yeah it's the soco moleman remix. there's been nothing reported on where the b-sides will show up yet.

[ResideInMyMind]

yeah it's the soco moleman remix. there's been nothing reported on where the b-sides will show up yet.

oh, alright. thanks.

[ResideInMyMind]

(i hate to cite wikipedia) but are there 5 members in BN now?

[Will Bryme]

that's "take apart your head" aka "degausser."

Well, we don't really know for sure.

And Tate, you should make an official post that you haven't heard the album and can't provide any insight into what it sounds like.

[nfggc10]

(i hate to cite wikipedia) but are there 5 members in BN now?
that is true

[Will Bryme]

And I'm sort of sad they didn't mention any piano in the article, but I'm still hoping untitled 7 makes it on the record.

[nfggc10]

And I'm sort of sad they didn't mention any piano in the article, but I'm still hoping untitled 7 makes it on the record.yeah of course it doesnt mean there wont be some on it though.

[danjonesdj]

So pumped for this record.
I think they have kept this quiet to get people more excited. If so then it has worked.

[Will Bryme]

yeah of course it doesnt mean there wont be some on it though.

I meant how they didn't describe any tracks as being piano-driven, which would fit the description of untitled 7.

[LostSymphonies]

i was excited to see the words "pop-punk" in there, hopefully a song or two that is reminiscent of YFW

[PunkDrums182]

here's something i posted in the staff forum:

so my goal is to hold out on hearing the new album until the day it's actually released, in stores, and on shelves. i haven't had the feeling of being so excited for an album, literally running to and in the store and back to the car, then feverishly ripping off the shrink wrap in quite some time. actually, the last time i believe was with deja entendu. anway, the point is, i'd like to have that feeling again. what would be more appropriate than having it with new brand new? exactly. the point is, i'm asking all of you to NOT send me this album no matter what. i don't care if i plea, beg and cry -- just ignore me or do whatever it takes to get it through my thick skull that i'm not allowed to hear it until november 21st. hopefully this doesn't leak until a week before, then i'll have no problem holding out. i'm counting on you guys to help me here, seeing as i lack anything resembling self-control.

with that being said, this is going to take A LOT of will power, self-control and so forth. but i know i can do it, and the feeling of accomplishing such a task and then just the overall excitement for the record itself, will be beyond well-worth it.

I want to do the same, we should start a club.

[hot time in DE]

All "reviews" are "pointless" - there's no REAL need for them.


i disagree. if im on the fence so to say about an album to purchase i will definitely read countless reviews of it. but maybe thats just me

[danjonesdj]

Definatly one of my favorite bands.
This album is going to be huge.

[Jim Stark]

Billboard.com is not punk rock.

And this site is?!?!??!?

[.Dylan]

Am i the only one who wants it to leak? I'm not the type of person who has all these album release rituals, I just want the hear the fucking music already. I will buy the album to support the band on the 21st but if I could have the MP3s on my harddrive right now I'd be in heaven.

[crzydrmmer]

here's something i posted in the staff forum:

so my goal is to hold out on hearing the new album until the day it's actually released, in stores, and on shelves. i haven't had the feeling of being so excited for an album, literally running to and in the store and back to the car, then feverishly ripping off the shrink wrap in quite some time. actually, the last time i believe was with deja entendu. anway, the point is, i'd like to have that feeling again. what would be more appropriate than having it with new brand new? exactly. the point is, i'm asking all of you to NOT send me this album no matter what. i don't care if i plea, beg and cry -- just ignore me or do whatever it takes to get it through my thick skull that i'm not allowed to hear it until november 21st. hopefully this doesn't leak until a week before, then i'll have no problem holding out. i'm counting on you guys to help me here, seeing as i lack anything resembling self-control.

with that being said, this is going to take A LOT of will power, self-control and so forth. but i know i can do it, and the feeling of accomplishing such a task and then just the overall excitement for the record itself, will be beyond well-worth it.


HELL YEAH!

i'm with you!

[mikeyxxcore]

Am i the only one who wants it to leak? I'm not the type of person who has all these album release rituals, I just want the hear the fucking music already. I will buy the album to support the band on the 21st but if I could have the MP3s on my harddrive right now I'd be in heaven.

I dont have a preference.
I will say I havnt bought an cd from a store in over 2 years and I get the majority of my music online.
If I buy a cd its from the bands show, because they are given a portion of that money for food and expenses.

Albums bought in stores help the bands label get sales and very seldomly does a band even get 50% of that sale.

(this is my opinion, I dont judge you so I ask that you dont judge me.)

[A picasso blue]

And this site is?!?!??!?
http://www.playwithlinn.com/Images/funny%20pics/oh%20snap.jpg

[Jason Tate]

And this site is?!?!??!?
You missed the joke. It's from an MC Lars song ... the bands share the same manager.

:rolleyes:

[Jason Tate]

Well, we don't really know for sure.

And Tate, you should make an official post that you haven't heard the album and can't provide any insight into what it sounds like.
:squint:

[HazeLitRise]

"Luca," a tale of sending one's lover to the bottom of the sea

uh.... coughplaycrackcough

[Mitch]

Am i the only one who wants it to leak? I'm not the type of person who has all these album release rituals, I just want the hear the fucking music already. I will buy the album to support the band on the 21st but if I could have the MP3s on my harddrive right now I'd be in heaven.

Im right there with you.

[Tom Da Bomb]

i cant wait for thanksgiving now. turkey and brand new.

[jawstheme417]

here's something i posted in the staff forum:

so my goal is to hold out on hearing the new album until the day it's actually released, in stores, and on shelves. i haven't had the feeling of being so excited for an album, literally running to and in the store and back to the car, then feverishly ripping off the shrink wrap in quite some time. actually, the last time i believe was with deja entendu. anway, the point is, i'd like to have that feeling again. what would be more appropriate than having it with new brand new? exactly. the point is, i'm asking all of you to NOT send me this album no matter what. i don't care if i plea, beg and cry -- just ignore me or do whatever it takes to get it through my thick skull that i'm not allowed to hear it until november 21st. hopefully this doesn't leak until a week before, then i'll have no problem holding out. i'm counting on you guys to help me here, seeing as i lack anything resembling self-control.

with that being said, this is going to take A LOT of will power, self-control and so forth. but i know i can do it, and the feeling of accomplishing such a task and then just the overall excitement for the record itself, will be beyond well-worth it.

i'm with you..i've never done that w/ a cd before but i've never been this excited for a cd before either..that review just made me 10x more anxious for this

[werealldudes19]

november 21 is the only day i care about

[RicKy085]

yeah well if it leaks soon, i'm not sure if i can hold out until nov21...i was ok with deja entendu since i didn't even know it leaked til the day before it came out so that was no problem. hmm still deciding what to do though

[Chris Fallon]

Nice to know that there are other websites/sources keeping tabs on Brand New. I'm still pretty stoked; being a longtime fan, I'm curious/excited to see where their sound goes.

[leftcoastposer]

this has been my most anticipated release for a ridiculously long time now.

[Heartcore]

You missed the joke. It's from an MC Lars song ... the bands share the same manager.

:rolleyes:

yeah... not that i didn't get the mc lars line...but, uh, most of us regular folk aren't aware of who manages what bands

[SuFsean]

Archers sounds like its track 4....

track 4 sounded like it wouldve been the single-type song from the demos.

[rogwave]

yeah, i thought archers sounded like track 4 too. with the dirty bass and a big chorus. either that or not the sun, but i'm pretty sure untitled 4 ended with them singing in kind of a round. that was the best demo too.

i think untitled is untitled 1, since they said it is the only short track.

[justinevans]

I'm excited.
Review copies are going around, but if I were Brand New and their management there will be more than the usual policing of leaks for this...

Marchand, if you have heard 'yeah' live, you would understand.
But it goes to say that Billboard doesn't choose their words well.
It just means the sudden turn to all out Lacey screaming.

"yeah" was one of the demos.

[justinevans]

I'm sure the album will be fine.

You can't go into albums with high expectations...Expectations are almost always higher than results.

All and all it is art. They create their art. We are just bystandards of it.

[brandnewfan01]

any news on when will be able to preorder it or anything?

[christophaaa]

so fucking excited about this. and seeing them this weekend. ahhhhhhhhh!

[bobbob]

:shrug:

They don't like the internet. I refuse to download any "leak" though .. I will only listen to this when I can be alone with the lyrics and the album. I want the final product, and I will not be in any forum chats about the CD until after it's in stores. I don't want to hear people's thoughts/comments/bitching ... I want to make my own mind up and experience the music.

So you didn't get those Brand New demos then? Because I've heard otherwise.

Either way, it's not exactly a fair comparison because you get advances, usually well ahead of release. Most people on the street don't get CDs until release date unless they pirate. Me? I'll download it early, burn it and then buy it on the 20th like everyone else, but I'm a shameless fanboy.

Edit: I'd also like to point out that I thoroughly expect everyone to be underwhelmed when it's released, people saying it's crap because it's different and because the hype has built up to such a level that merely a good album would not be enough.