BCS Standings

[brutusUbastard]

Week 1:

1OhioState (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=33)
2USC (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=62)
3Michigan (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=29)
4Auburn (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=75)
5West Virginia (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=17)
6Florida (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=67)
7Louisville (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=100)
8NotreDame (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=104)
9Texas (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=83)
10California (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=59)
11Tennessee (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=71)
12Clemson (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=1)
13Arkansas (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=74)
14Oregon (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=60)
15BoiseState (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=112)
16Rutgers (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=13)
17Nebraska (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=23)
18LSU (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=76)
19Georgia Tech (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=4)
20Boston College (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=10)
21Wisconsin (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=36)
22Oklahoma (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=24)
23Iowa (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=28)
24Missouri (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=22)
25Tulsa (http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/team?statsId=107)


Discuss

[Chriz2z]

I just got a headache from seeing that.

USC should not be 2.

Texas should be higher than 9.

[FondestMemory]

once again they prove they should remove the c from the name.

none of it makes any sense. notre dame higher than texas? cal higher than tennessee? usc number 2?

fuck that shit.

[make_this_hurt]

Boise St. 15?

What a joke. Boise St. shouldn't be in the top 30.

[brutusUbastard]

Computers Blow. Georgia Tech is ranked ahead of Oregon, LSU, Rutgers, Arkansas, Nebraska, and Boise State, yet because of computer rankings, they fall behind all those teams.

I can understand maybe falling behind Arkansas, but what the fuck?

[dekdog11]

regardless of these rankings, im still against a playoff. usc deserves to be at lowest 3. they haven't lost yet and that is all that matters.

[bigmike]

So basically all we've learned is that the BCS still fucking sucks and college football needs a playoff.

Cool.

[make_this_hurt]

So basically all we've learned is that the BCS still fucking sucks and college football needs a playoff.

Cool.
Sounds good to me.

[FondestMemory]

regardless of these rankings, im still against a playoff. usc deserves to be at lowest 3. they haven't lost yet and that is all that matters.

i honestly don't get how anybody can be against a playoff? i don't understand any of the reasoning.

i mean, if there weren't a month off between the end of the season and the bowls, maybe i'd understand a bit more. but it's not like there's no time for it.

and every other division has them and they work out just fine.

[dekdog11]

i honestly don't get how anybody can be against a playoff? i don't understand any of the reasoning.

i mean, if there weren't a month off between the end of the season and the bowls, maybe i'd understand a bit more. but it's not like there's no time for it.

and every other division has them and they work out just fine.

i've always been against it. i liked it how it was before the bcs. yes it was flawed, but i did not mind it. this is coming from a miami fan who i think was screwed out of going to the title game when fsu took our spot even though we beat fsu that year. i think however you put it and even with a playoff, people will bitch about something. like last year, there is no reason for there to be a playoff. none whatsoever. texas and usc were undefeated. no one else was. other teams slipped up, and that is their fault. usc and texas should not be at fault for that. if the playoff was four teams last year, you would have texas, usc, penn state, and either notre dame or ohio state. who gets to decide whether it is ohio state or notre dame. there is always going to be someone left out.

if there was some sort of clause that allowed it to take effect certain years but not others years i might agree, but the fact remains that if there is only two undefeated teams or something like that a playoff is not necessary and basically screws the undefeated teams.

[marrost]

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[bigmike]

i've always been against it. i liked it how it was before the bcs. yes it was flawed, but i did not mind it. this is coming from a miami fan who i think was screwed out of going to the title game when fsu took our spot even though we beat fsu that year. i think however you put it and even with a playoff, people will bitch about something. like last year, there is no reason for there to be a playoff. none whatsoever. texas and usc were undefeated. no one else was. other teams slipped up, and that is their fault. usc and texas should not be at fault for that. if the playoff was four teams last year, you would have texas, usc, penn state, and either notre dame or ohio state. who gets to decide whether it is ohio state or notre dame. there is always going to be someone left out.

if there was some sort of clause that allowed it to take effect certain years but not others years i might agree, but the fact remains that if there is only two undefeated teams or something like that a playoff is not necessary and basically screws the undefeated teams.
So what do you want done if there's 2 unbeaten teams and one of them is Boise State?

[FondestMemory]

i've always been against it. i liked it how it was before the bcs. yes it was flawed, but i did not mind it. this is coming from a miami fan who i think was screwed out of going to the title game when fsu took our spot even though we beat fsu that year. i think however you put it and even with a playoff, people will bitch about something. like last year, there is no reason for there to be a playoff. none whatsoever. texas and usc were undefeated. no one else was. other teams slipped up, and that is their fault. usc and texas should not be at fault for that. if the playoff was four teams last year, you would have texas, usc, penn state, and either notre dame or ohio state. who gets to decide whether it is ohio state or notre dame. there is always going to be someone left out.

if there was some sort of clause that allowed it to take effect certain years but not others years i might agree, but the fact remains that if there is only two undefeated teams or something like that a playoff is not necessary and basically screws the undefeated teams.

if they're undefeated through the season, they shouldn't be afraid to prove they're the best though. say somebody out of the big east goes undefeated, but that year the big east is weak and the sec and big ten are super strong. just because they're undefeated doesn't mean they're better than a one loss team from a stronger conference.

and i'd be against a four team playoff, it'd need to be at least 8, preferably 12. and like i said earlier, i'd rather have the argument that the 9th or 13th best team is being left out than the third or fifth best.

[dekdog11]

So what do you want done if there's 2 unbeaten teams and one of them is Boise State?

im talking from major conferences. the bcs doesn't work every year, but it has worked before. this is just my opinion and i may be in the minority but its how i feel.

[bigmike]

im talking from major conferences. the bcs doesn't work every year, but it has worked before. this is just my opinion and i may be in the minority but its how i feel.
But it's also failed before. Majorly.

[dekdog11]

if they're undefeated through the season, they shouldn't be afraid to prove they're the best though. say somebody out of the big east goes undefeated, but that year the big east is weak and the sec and big ten are super strong. just because they're undefeated doesn't mean they're better than a one loss team from a stronger conference.

and i'd be against a four team playoff, it'd need to be at least 8, preferably 12. and like i said earlier, i'd rather have the argument that the 9th or 13th best team is being left out than the third or fifth best.

i agree with what you are saying, but i still think if you go undefeated from one of the big six conferences you deserve to play for the title.

what i bolded i agree with as well.

i still dont think an undefeated team needs to prove their worth. they proved it throughout the season and that should be enough. i've always had this thought though...no one ever agrees with me...heh.

[dekdog11]

But it's also failed before. Majorly.

nothing is perfect. someone will bitch no matter what it is. a playoff will have haters too. there really is no solution.

[bigmike]

i agree with what you are saying, but i still think if you go undefeated from one of the big six conferences you deserve to play for the title.

what i bolded i agree with as well.

i still dont think an undefeated team needs to prove their worth. they proved it throughout the season and that should be enough. i've always had this thought though...no one ever agrees with me...heh.
If Louisville or WVU go undefeated this year, do they really deserve a NC birth over Michigan/Florida/USC/ND/whatever other 1 lost teams there might be?

[make_this_hurt]

If Louisville or WVU go undefeated this year, do they really deserve a NC birth over Michigan/Florida/USC/ND/whatever other 1 lost teams there might be?
I honestly don't know.

But if that happens... there's gonna be some controversy.

[dekdog11]

If Louisville or WVU go undefeated this year, do they really deserve a NC birth over Michigan/Florida/USC/ND/whatever other 1 lost teams there might be?

in my opinion, yes. louisville will have beaten pittsburgh, west virginia, miami (an off year but still not a bad team), and rutgers.

wvu would have beaten only pitt, louisville, and rutgers.

michigan would have beaten notre dame, wisconsin, penn state, and iowa.

notre dame would have beaten usc and and georgia tech.

a one loss florida team would be the only team i would think might be more deserving.

[KB3RG]

in my opinion, yes. louisville will have beaten pittsburgh, west virginia, miami (an off year but still not a bad team), and rutgers.

wvu would have beaten only pitt, louisville, and rutgers.

michigan would have beaten notre dame, wisconsin, penn state, and iowa.

notre dame would have beaten usc and and georgia tech.

a one loss florida team would be the only team i would think might be more deserving.

so you are sold that Michigan will not beat OSU?

[dekdog11]

so you are sold that Michigan will not beat OSU?

nah i was just going off of what he was saying. right now i think ohio state will win based on what has happened thus far this year...but that could change.

[bigmike]

so you are sold that Michigan will not beat OSU?
He was going on the teams I listed. I didn't list OSU. I think Michigan is fully capable of beating OSU but i've bet against the buckeyes too much this year, so i'm done doing that, haha.

[dekdog11]

He was going on the teams I listed. I didn't list OSU. I think Michigan is fully capable of beating OSU but i've bet against the buckeyes too much this year, so i'm done doing that, haha.

haha your telling me...ive picked them to lose like 2-3 games already lol.

[FondestMemory]

He was going on the teams I listed. I didn't list OSU. I think Michigan is fully capable of beating OSU but i've bet against the buckeyes too much this year, so i'm done doing that, haha.

did john l. realize they had a game against them yesterday?

the team didn't even show up.

[bigmike]

in my opinion, yes. louisville will have beaten pittsburgh, west virginia, miami (an off year but still not a bad team), and rutgers.

wvu would have beaten only pitt, louisville, and rutgers.

michigan would have beaten notre dame, wisconsin, penn state, and iowa.

notre dame would have beaten usc and and georgia tech.

a one loss florida team would be the only team i would think might be more deserving.
So louisville would have beaten a Pitt team who hasn't beaten ANYBODY. not a single good win for them AT ALL this year and lost to Michigan State in Pitt.

Louisville would've also beaten a miami team that's proven they might not even be a top 25 team in the country, in louisville, and a Rutgers team which isn't an elite team that will end up having 4 or so losses this year. So really, Louisville will have beaten no body on the road at all (Miami, WVU are/were home games).

[make_this_hurt]

did john l. realize they had a game against them yesterday?

the team didn't even show up.
John L is an idiot. I hope he gets tied to a train car and just sent out of town.

[dekdog11]

So louisville would have beaten a Pitt team who hasn't beaten ANYBODY. not a single good win for them AT ALL this year and lost to Michigan State in Pitt.

Louisville would've also beaten a miami team that's proven they might not even be a top 25 team in the country, in louisville, and a Rutgers team which isn't an elite team that will end up having 4 or so losses this year. So really, Louisville will have beaten no body on the road at all (Miami, WVU are/were home games).

eh....home games or not, i still think they deserve to play for the title if it is them and 1 more undefeated team. i don't think we will have to worry about it though because i think a loss auburn-uf team might get a chance anyway.

[KB3RG]

He was going on the teams I listed. I didn't list OSU. I think Michigan is fully capable of beating OSU but i've bet against the buckeyes too much this year, so i'm done doing that, haha.

ouch
haha your telling me...ive picked them to lose like 2-3 games already lol.

double ouch

[bigmike]

haha your telling me...ive picked them to lose like 2-3 games already lol.
Yeah, well I picked Penn State to finish with a better record, but I thought Morelli would have had more growth than this and that his WR's would have actually made a couple big plays for him. Then I picked OSU to lost to PSU and Iowa so I'm pretty much done with that.
did john l. realize they had a game against them yesterday?

the team didn't even show up.
Yeah. Again. They did this last week. I mean, if you can't get your fucking team motivated to play against your biggest rival that looks at you as their 3rd biggest rival, or get your team up to play the fucking #1 team in the country, at home, on ABC, in the mid afternoon, then you should probably just become a professor or something. Dude should've been fired immediately after the Illinois game. or immediately after the Michigan game. and he should be fire now. anything to maybe salvage the season because i'm not so sure they can @ Indiana, or at home against Minnesota (we can't stop the run) or Purdue (who's offense is great but we have a shitty defense) or @ happy valley against Penn State. We could easily end up with a 4-8 or 5-7 record this year.

Edit: I also want to make a shirt that says on the front: "John L. Smith" above a medium sized picture of him. below the picture have it say "Snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory since 2003." and on the back have it say "Fire John L." with the Athletic department/Ron Mason, the AD's phone number on it.

[preppyak]

Edit: I also want to make a shirt that says on the front: "John L. Smith" above a medium sized picture of him. below the picture have it say "Snatching Defeate from the jaws of Victory since 2003." and on the back have it say "Fire John L." with the Athletic department/Ron Mason, the AD's phone number on it.
hahaha...that'd be excellent

[Drew Beringer]

BCS rankings are lame as fuck, thus proving once again that CBB > CFB

[leftstranded]

wow. i'm supprised to see auburn above wv. thought they would at least get 4th

[bigmike]

hahaha...that'd be excellent
Haha, I thought so, too.

[imirish06]

I don't have a problem with it for the most part. USC has the toughest schedule in the country(ACCORDING TO THE COMPUTERS) next to Florida so far. That's why they're so high.

Why is Texas below ND???? maybe because with the exception of OSU they played shit so far. Oklahoma losing isn't helping their case. Putting up 60 points on cupcakes doesn't mean you're a legit team.

I think for the most part the top 10 is solid. WVU should not be ranked that high and Cal over Tennesee is pretty shitty too. As the list goes down though, no way in hell should G-Tech be that low.

People, ITS THE FIRST FUCKING WEEK OF RATINGS. As the schedules go on...they'lll change. Some teams are ranked that high now because they're in the bread and butter of their scheduling...some are ranked that low because they aren't yet. Sadly though it only gets tougher for USC so if they keep winning, they're not going anywhere bearing a michigan over osu at the end of the season.

[imirish06]

If Louisville or WVU go undefeated this year, do they really deserve a NC birth over Michigan/Florida/USC/ND/whatever other 1 lost teams there might be?

they sure as hell don't.... if florida goes the whole season with one loss....they deserve it hands down and will probably get it being that usc and michigans loss could come the last 2 weeks of the season

[imirish06]

IMHO the BCS rankings aren't the cause of unfair bowl results. Conferences getting automatic bids are.

[leftstranded]

let's go buckeys let's go!

[Flags of Dawn]

im really proud of Wisconsin this year. just thought id throw that out there.

[Drew Beringer]

im really proud of Wisconsin this year. just thought id throw that out there.

hah me too, I didn't think they'd be 6-1.

[Flags of Dawn]

hah me too, I didn't think they'd be 6-1.
i thought they could be 6-1...but i didnt think they'd be pounding teams into the ground like they have been. and they were beating Michigan for a half. pretty impressive for a team who lost their top 2 receivers, an all conference running back, and the winningest coach in program history.

[Drew Beringer]

i thought they could be 6-1...but i didnt think they'd be pounding teams into the ground like they have been. and they were beating Michigan for a half. pretty impressive for a team who lost their top 2 receivers, an all conference running back, and the winningest coach in program history.

Wisconsin doesn't rebuild at RB, they just reload. Hill is a BEAST!

[Flags of Dawn]

Wisconsin doesn't rebuild at RB, they just reload. Hill is a BEAST!
hes the definition of a UW running back. its easy to say now, but i think bielema was the right choice for a new coach.

[livethesounds]

Fuck the BCS. Texas is ranked under the shitty Irish???? and ranked 9th for that matter under two one loss teams. Fuck the BCS.

[imirish06]

Fuck the BCS. Texas is ranked under the shitty Irish???? and ranked 9th for that matter under two one loss teams. Fuck the BCS.

here's a tip......when it comes time to scheduling non conference games....schedule some teams other than sam houston, rice, and north fucking texas

[make_this_hurt]

here's a tip......when it comes time to scheduling non conference games....schedule some teams other than sam houston, rice, and north fucking texas
Haha.

[livethesounds]

here's a tip......when it comes time to scheduling non conference games....schedule some teams other than sam houston, rice, and north fucking texas

yea your right. oh you forgot the #1 ranked Ohio State Buckeyes, i know they're hard to forget.

im sure there are deals with those schools though, so we kind of have to play them. it brings revenue for them and the state because all of those schools are from texas.

[imirish06]

yea your right. oh you forgot the #1 ranked Ohio State Buckeyes, i know they're hard to forget.

im sure there are deals with those schools though, so we kind of have to play them. it brings revenue for them and the state because all of those schools are from texas.


....and you lost to OSU.

I'm not trying to bust your balls...I'm just telling you that your schedule is what's giving you a shitty ranking.

[livethesounds]

....and you lost to OSU.

I'm not trying to bust your balls...I'm just telling you that your schedule is what's giving you a shitty ranking.

I know it is, i just dont think that should have such a huge bearing on it. If texas ends up behind a 2 loss team because they played more ranked teams than texas did (idk if that would happen) then i would be pretty pissed off.

[Smithers]

what's hilarious about the computer rankings is that one of them has Rutgers ranked as the 5th best team in America.

hil. arious.

[xbrokendownx]

....and you lost to OSU.

I'm not trying to bust your balls...I'm just telling you that your schedule is what's giving you a shitty ranking.





plus, they didnt schedule that game.


its a conference game

[FondestMemory]

plus, they didnt schedule that game.


its a conference game

ohio state isn't in the same conference as texas.

[make_this_hurt]

ohio state isn't in the same conference as texas.
Haha... he might have been thinking OSU meant Oklahoma St.

[brutusUbastard]

what's hilarious about the computer rankings is that one of them has Rutgers ranked as the 5th best team in America.

hil. arious.

The computer Rankings are bullshit.

[LeftWideOpen]

Clemson is still severely overrated. How on earth this team is ranked 12th in the polls and the BCS, yet BC is so far behind, boggles my mind. Let's look at Clemson ..they've got two notable wins, against Florida State and Wake Forest. BC has BEATEN Clemson, has just one loss, and has beaten Va Tech. The combination of winning a head to head matchup, plus the W against Va Tech, is far more impressive than wins against FSU and Wake. It's a bunch of crap.

[LeftWideOpen]

The computer Rankings are bullshit.

so are the polls.

its a bullshit system built on bullshit.

[bigmike]

Clemson is still severely overrated. How on earth this team is ranked 12th in the polls and the BCS, yet BC is so far behind, boggles my mind. Let's look at Clemson ..they've got two notable wins, against Florida State and Wake Forest. BC has BEATEN Clemson, has just one loss, and has beaten Va Tech. The combination of winning a head to head matchup, plus the W against Va Tech, is far more impressive than wins against FSU and Wake. It's a bunch of crap.
I agree. Whole heartedly.

[LeftWideOpen]

I agree. Whole heartedly.

I'm not saying BC deserves to be 12 either, because I don't believe we are the 12th best team in the nation right now. But I know Clemson hasn't earned that as much as other schools behind them have. They deserve to be sitting around #20, behind schools like us and Ga Tech.

[preppyak]

what's hilarious about the computer rankings is that one of them has Rutgers ranked as the 5th best team in America.

hil. arious.
Actually...most of the computers have Rutgers in the top 10, which is absurd to me

I can't find a team they've played that I think is a legitimate bowl team, let alone Top 25 (South Florida is weak at best, and Navy proved they aren't good by getting shutout by Rutgers)

17-22, that's their opponents win/loss record, and they've all been killed by top 25 teams

[straylight70x7]

He was going on the teams I listed. I didn't list OSU. I think Michigan is fully capable of beating OSU but i've bet against the buckeyes too much this year, so i'm done doing that, haha.

Sigh. Ohio State is pretty much the only school in the country who could be ranked as a pre-season number one, beat a number of good teams (@texas, @iowa, PSU, Garret Wolfe Univer- uh, I mean Northern Ill), have the head-and-shoulders-above-everyone heisman favorite and a solid heisman cadidate for him to throw to yet still be doubted so much. I understand that the day of reckoning will be here soon (November 18th to be exact) but until then, all the OSU haters can just hang tight because i promise that the winner of that game will win the big one in Glendale.

[LeftWideOpen]

Sigh. Ohio State is pretty much the only school in the country who could be ranked as a pre-season number one, beat a number of good teams (@texas, @iowa, PSU, Garret Wolfe Univer- uh, I mean Northern Ill), have the head-and-shoulders-above-everyone heisman favorite and a solid heisman cadidate for him to throw to yet still be doubted so much. I understand that the day of reckoning will be here soon (November 18th to be exact) but until then, all the OSU haters can just hang tight because i promise that the winner of that game will win the big one in Glendale.

you shouldnt guarantee anything in sports, especially the winner of a national title game, unless you want to look like an ass.

so congratulations.

[bigmike]

Sigh. Ohio State is pretty much the only school in the country who could be ranked as a pre-season number one, beat a number of good teams (@texas, @iowa, PSU, Garret Wolfe Univer- uh, I mean Northern Ill), have the head-and-shoulders-above-everyone heisman favorite and a solid heisman cadidate for him to throw to yet still be doubted so much. I understand that the day of reckoning will be here soon (November 18th to be exact) but until then, all the OSU haters can just hang tight because i promise that the winner of that game will win the big one in Glendale.
Yes. because giving up 171 yards on the ground to garrett wolfe and 114 more through the air to him in a victory is impressive. Especially when Western Michigan University just held him to 25 yards rushing and no touchdowns. So quit trying to brag on that.

2) Troy Smith has been nothing more than efficient in a down year for heisman candidates. Put him in any of the last few heisman years and he's not even invited to New York. Hooray for a very effiecient quarterback, probably going to be given the "best player in the country" award. When Tyler Palko from Pitt leads you in almost every important QB Category, I wouldn't get too excited.

Oh, an Bravo on beating a Texas team with a freshman quarterback after their coaching staff decided to abandon the running game completely, despite it being very effective resulting in letting you pull away.

3) Iowa has proved to be an overrated, boardering on mediocre football team. Oh, bravo on that one.

4) PSU. Man. beating another 1st year starting QB at home in a rain storm is just such the accomplishment. Especially since PSU's WR's have been a complete and total let down all year in terms of making absolutely NO big plays.

5) Congrats on those tough wins against Bowling Green and Cincinnatti as well, I mean, those were difficult home wins.

6) Great job going to East Lansing and beating a team that quit playing competitive football about 3 games ago. Awesome work ther.e

Basically, shut the fuck assclown.

[straylight70x7]

you shouldnt guarantee anything in sports, especially the winner of a national title game, unless you want to look like an ass.

so congratulations.

fucktard, this is a sports board on a music website. it is not like i am Mel Kiper or Lee God-Damn Corso here telling everyone my professional opinion. if i am wrong so what? i lose a couple scene points? take 'em.

[LeftWideOpen]

fucktard, this is a sports board on a music website. it is not like i am Mel Kiper or Lee God-Damn Corso here telling everyone my professional opinion. if i am wrong so what? i lose a couple scene points? take 'em.

:uhno:

[FondestMemory]

fucktard, this is a sports board on a music website. it is not like i am Mel Kiper or Lee God-Damn Corso here telling everyone my professional opinion. if i am wrong so what? i lose a couple scene points? take 'em.

oh, is that what this is? i'm glad we have somebody who nobody's seen here before today telling us where we're at.

no matter where we're at, talking shit with nothing to back it up and making bullshit guarentees deserves getting attacked. and that's what you've done, so you deserve the responses you're getting.

we have good conversations here, if you're not able to contribute to those you're more than welcome to stay the fuck out.

[tambo41187]

i still dont think troy smith should just be handed the heisman...if he beats michigan than i'll admit its his but i dont think he is head and shoulders above the other candidates at this point, not with his numbers.

[tambo41187]

and god there are alot of osu fans on this board.

[make_this_hurt]

and god there are alot of osu fans on this board.
Haha.. yea there are. It's cus theres nothing else to do in Ohio.

[straylight70x7]

Yes. because giving up 171 yards on the ground to garrett wolfe and 114 more through the air to him in a victory is impressive. Especially when Western Michigan University just held him to 25 yards rushing and no touchdowns. So quit trying to brag on that.

2) Troy Smith has been nothing more than efficient in a down year for heisman candidates. Put him in any of the last few heisman years and he's not even invited to New York. Hooray for a very effiecient quarterback, probably going to be given the "best player in the country" award. When Tyler Palko from Pitt leads you in almost every important QB Category, I wouldn't get too excited.

Oh, an Bravo on beating a Texas team with a freshman quarterback after their coaching staff decided to abandon the running game completely, despite it being very effective resulting in letting you pull away.

3) Iowa has proved to be an overrated, boardering on mediocre football team. Oh, bravo on that one.

4) PSU. Man. beating another 1st year starting QB at home in a rain storm is just such the accomplishment. Especially since PSU's WR's have been a complete and total let down all year in terms of making absolutely NO big plays.

5) Congrats on those tough wins against Bowling Green and Cincinnatti as well, I mean, those were difficult home wins.

6) Great job going to East Lansing and beating a team that quit playing competitive football about 3 games ago. Awesome work ther.e

Basically, shut the fuck assclown.

1. I was not trying to brag about beating NIU. They are a good one-dimensional team and the majority of the yards that Wolfe earned were on the second and third string defense. I was simply poking fun at NIU.

2. You can have your opinion but you can not deny that he is the backbone to the number one ranked team in the nation. I invite you to look at this (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/heisman06/index) and not mention Tyler Palko again. Fifteen out of fifteen voters can't be wrong, right?
And as far as Texas goes, wouldn't you think that the coaching staffs at one of the most prominent football schools in the country would stop running the ball for a reason? Unless I am on a message board with Joe Paterno or Bobby Bowden, I don't think you have more expierience than Mack Brown. And I am sure they didn't "let us pull away." Sure it is easy for us to sit here and critique these choices but when the whole day is through, they gave a good (although young) Texas team an embarassing loss at home. Bucks 1 Corso 0

3. Everyone and I mean EVERYONE told OSU they were going to lose to Iowa. But they went out there and proved everyone wrong. Regardless of how good or bad people think they are, OSU went into their house and took them down. PLUS They beat a very expierienced quarterback in that one. I guess that shows they can kick the shit out of young quarterbacks and expierienced ones. Bucks 2 Corso 0

4. PSU was a revenge game. Regardless of how good they are, it just meant a lot to get that win. Bucks 3 Corso 0

5. Anytime a team plays the number one team in the nation, they get up for it (except Michigan State). So don't think that BGSU and UC were just going to roll over and die. (By the way, I wasn't looking for bragging rights on these games. But thanks for assuming.)

6. You are right. They kicked the shit out of a high school team that was good enough to almost beat Notre Dame.

[brutusUbastard]

Clemson is still severely overrated. How on earth this team is ranked 12th in the polls and the BCS, yet BC is so far behind, boggles my mind. Let's look at Clemson ..they've got two notable wins, against Florida State and Wake Forest. BC has BEATEN Clemson, has just one loss, and has beaten Va Tech. The combination of winning a head to head matchup, plus the W against Va Tech, is far more impressive than wins against FSU and Wake. It's a bunch of crap.

The fact that GA Tech is treated so shitty in the computer polls is stupid. Their only loss was to ND (the number 2 team at the time) and they win at VT, yet in some cmputer polls they are ranked as low as 35.

What the fuck?

[LeftWideOpen]

i still dont think troy smith should just be handed the heisman...if he beats michigan than i'll admit its his but i dont think he is head and shoulders above the other candidates at this point, not with his numbers.

I thought Adrian Peterson was right there with him, but now he's done for the year. So, it's Smith's to lose.

[LeftWideOpen]

3. Everyone and I mean EVERYONE told OSU they were going to lose to Iowa. But they went out there and proved everyone wrong. Regardless of how good or bad people think they are, OSU went into their house and took them down. PLUS They beat a very expierienced quarterback in that one. I guess that shows they can kick the shit out of young quarterbacks and expierienced ones. Bucks 2 Corso 0

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where the hell did you get this from? The majority of people had OSU ...Iowa was just a trendy upset pick. That's nothing new either, since every time a #1 plays a ranked team, people are calling an upset.

[brutusUbastard]

so are the polls.

its a bullshit system built on bullshit.

I'll stick by the AP poll, but the fact that its not even equated into the BCS, is bullshit. Also, the poll thats is lean towards the most when it comes to points is the Harris Poll. Hell, I never even heard of the Harris Poll.

The BCS system is so crazy and complex, not being helped by the fact that no logical foundation (how do they even equate strength of schedule?) to how it rates teams has actually been presented to the public (at least that I've seen; I could be very wrong). It's garbage.

[FondestMemory]

is this kid arguing with lee corso? i'm so fucking confused.

fans like this make me want their team to lose.

fifteen out of fifteen voters can't be wrong? what the fuck does that mean? because fifteen people have one opinion a sixteenth person can't have a different one?

the whole rant was fucking stupid.

and this is coming from a diehard bucks fan who has said all season smith is far and away the heisman winner.

[tambo41187]

fjkewhfweh

no one told osu they were going to loose to iowa....no one, what are you smoking they were exepcted to win that game.

[tambo41187]

o and this most likely has been discussed but how does a team like clemson get voted above Georgia tech...garbo.

[make_this_hurt]

is this kid arguing with lee corso? i'm so fucking confused.

fans like this make me want their team to lose.

fifteen out of fifteen voters can't be wrong? what the fuck does that mean? because fifteen people have one opinion a sixteenth person can't have a different one?

the whole rant was fucking stupid.

and this is coming from a diehard bucks fan who has said all season smith is far and away the heisman winner.
Yea. That kid is def... on drugs.

[Talib Scottie]

6 Team playoff, Top 2 get byes

[FondestMemory]

6 Team playoff, Top 2 get byes

that's way too few. considering there are six bcs conferences. do want just the winners of those conferences involved? or no automatic bids, just the top 6 and a winner of a major conference could be left home?

i've said a million times in this thread: 12 is the perfect number. keep the automatic bids, six at large based on computer rankings.

[Talib Scottie]

that's way too few. considering there are six bcs conferences. do want just the winners of those conferences involved? or no automatic bids, just the top 6 and a winner of a major conference could be left home?

i've said a million times in this thread: 12 is the perfect number. keep the automatic bids, six at large based on computer rankings.

I meant 12, like the NFL. I was thinking one bracket for some reason.

[FondestMemory]

I meant 12, like the NFL. I was thinking one bracket for some reason.

haha. fair enough. that's what i've stated. ran like the nfl's would be great. top four with byes.

[LeftWideOpen]

that's way too few. considering there are six bcs conferences. do want just the winners of those conferences involved? or no automatic bids, just the top 6 and a winner of a major conference could be left home?

i've said a million times in this thread: 12 is the perfect number. keep the automatic bids, six at large based on computer rankings.

I like 8 moreso than 12, especially when I think about that being in effect this season and knowing Clemson would be in it right now.

I think if this thing expands too much, you could have highly touted programs who are 7-4 making it ahead of lower profile schools who are 9-2 or 10-1 ...and then theres a whole new controversy.

[FondestMemory]

I like 8 moreso than 12, especially when I think about that being in effect this season and knowing Clemson would be in it right now.

I think if this thing expands too much, you could have highly touted programs who are 7-4 making it ahead of lower profile schools who are 9-2 or 10-1 ...and then theres a whole new controversy.

my problem with eight, is that they've been doing eight for years now in the bowls. and every year there's that ninth team that would have a great chance of winning the bowl the eighth team is in. there's always a legit team with a valid argument being left out.

with 12, there may be some less deserving teams in there, but they'll get knocked out. and if you're only argument at the end of the season is that you think you're the 12th best team instead of the 13th best team, then you probably don't deserve a shot.

but i'd want clauses in there for undefeated teams. like when utah went undefeated. they should be in a 12 team playoff, even if they come in at 13th or 14th in the system.

i don't think 12 is taking it too far. 16 is taking it too far. i think 12 is a perfect cutoff.

[bigmike]

1. I was not trying to brag about beating NIU. They are a good one-dimensional team and the majority of the yards that Wolfe earned were on the second and third string defense. I was simply poking fun at NIU.

Yeah. They're really one dimensional with Phil Horvath who is 4th in the MAC Conference in passing yards, which is less than 300 yards behind Troy Smith. Man, that's so one dimensional. I mean, they like never throw the ball ever..

2. You can have your opinion but you can not deny that he is the backbone to the number one ranked team in the nation. I invite you to look at this (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/heisman06/index) and not mention Tyler Palko again. Fifteen out of fifteen voters can't be wrong, right?

Oh, I forgot ESPN's word on the heisman is gospel. You're right. Whatever was I thinking challenging ESPN who's "analyst" Kirk Herbstreit picked Miami to be in the National Title game before the year. So they're clearly never wrong about anything.

And did I say that Troy Smith wouldn't win the heisman or that he shouldn't? No, I said he's been efficient in a down year in the heisman race. pay attention ass clown and try to comprehend what you read. Any other year, Smith's not even invited to New York for the presentation. This year, he'll win it for simply being the efficient QB of the #1 team in the country.

Palko: 114/161, 1661 yards, 70.8%, 17 TD, 3 INT.
Smith: 116/170, 1495 yards, 68.2%, 17 TD, 2 INT.

Yeah. Shut it. Oh, and he's doing it without a Ted Ginn or Antonio Pittman talent around him. So shut it, ass clown.

And as far as Texas goes, wouldn't you think that the coaching staffs at one of the most prominent football schools in the country would stop running the ball for a reason? Unless I am on a message board with Joe Paterno or Bobby Bowden, I don't think you have more expierience than Mack Brown. And I am sure they didn't "let us pull away." Sure it is easy for us to sit here and critique these choices but when the whole day is through, they gave a good (although young) Texas team an embarassing loss at home. Bucks 1 Corso 0
Texas was averaging 5.5 yards a carry and ran for 172 yards but they got away from it after halftime. I never said they let them win, I said that getting away from the running game let the game get out of hand because they weren't controlling the ball anymore and were unable to keep it away from the efficient Ohio State offense. Again, reading comprehension asshat. And what the fuck does lee corso have to do with anything?
3. Everyone and I mean EVERYONE told OSU they were going to lose to Iowa. But they went out there and proved everyone wrong. Regardless of how good or bad people think they are, OSU went into their house and took them down. PLUS They beat a very expierienced quarterback in that one. I guess that shows they can kick the shit out of young quarterbacks and expierienced ones. Bucks 2 Corso 0
If everyone was picking against Ohio State, then why were they the odds on favorites to win the game? They beat an experienced quarterback of a bad team. A team proving to be just good enough to be middle of the pack in the Big Ten. For fuck's sake, they just lost to Indiana. Case closed. Iowa is not a good team. The win isn't any more impressive then the win at Michigan State.
4. PSU was a revenge game. Regardless of how good they are, it just meant a lot to get that win. Bucks 3 Corso 0
Oh sweet. A revenge game. Cool. They still be a 1st year starter with an under achieving WR core that last year made all the big plays when they needed them. This year, they aren't.

And it was a close game until Morelli threw those picks that OSU took back for scores late in the game. Also, winning at home, against a team with a mediocre running game. Yeah, not too impressive.
5. Anytime a team plays the number one team in the nation, they get up for it (except Michigan State). So don't think that BGSU and UC were just going to roll over and die. (By the way, I wasn't looking for bragging rights on these games. But thanks for assuming.)
Great. I'm sure they were up for the game. But talent wise, they aren't beating the #1 team. I was taking shots at a weak out of conference schedule. Apparently sarcasm, like reading comprehension, is a lesson you've missed in school.

6. You are right. They kicked the shit out of a high school team that was good enough to almost beat Notre Dame.

Yeah. We're as talented a team as there is, offensively, in the Big 10. but we can't get ANY STOPS on defense. Not to mention, I said, you beat a team that quit playing football the last 3 weeks. Losing at home to Illinois, not getting up for their biggest rivalry game against Michigan, or not getting up to play the #1 team in the country. Hence the, "quit playing football the last 3 weeks."

Again, not an impressive win.

Your entire argument is ridiculous, redundant and makes no sense. Ohio States wins look less and less impressive with every Iowa loss and every Texas win over some high school team. Troy Smith has been efficient. Nothing more. His numbers are on par with Tyler Palko's. Palko's not a Heisman candidate and if Ohio State wasn't the #1 team in the country, or Troy Smith didn't come in with Brady Quinn hype, then he wouldn't be the leading candidate in what is a very, VERY, weak Heisman group that just got weaker with Adrian Peterson's season/career ending.

So, in short, shut it down, asshat. You're retarded.

[FondestMemory]

bigmike: 1
corso: 0

or something like that.

[make_this_hurt]

bigmike ftw.

[Flags of Dawn]

i cant wait for wisconsin to play in the capitol one bowl. we're gonna get smoked.

[Chriz2z]

bigmike wins.

[thejetstolehome]

bigmike: 1
corso: 0

or something like that.

BIGMIKE WINS! ONE, NOTHING!!!

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