Rush Limbaugh would be better off dead.

[Jason Tate]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/24/politics/main2121910.shtml

[TJ Wells]

Honestly, this guy makes me ashamed I was ever a Republican, and makes me even more ashamed of my family.

[radiofriendly]

yeah, that was a real stupid thing to say.

[*crying stars*]

Rush Limbaugh's reputation was down the drain a long time ago.

And then he says something like this.

[Jason Tate]

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2422/douchero3.jpg

[lightcollapse]

fuck rush limbaugh. that douche makes me ashamed to be a member of the human race.

[odelay]

Oh, Rush. Your prescription pill-poppin' ass is always trying to make sure you get that spot in hell you always wanted.


::insert Donovan McNabb joke here.::

[xshady121]

eh idk, it semes like a bad thing to say, but Fox using his exploiting his disease to gain votes is equally as low.

[odelay]

eh idk, it semes like a bad thing to say, but Fox using his exploiting his disease to gain votes is equally as low. I don't think he is exploiting his disease. I think he's using his celebrity to bring focus to this illness.

[fromwithin]

so wait, the problem is that he thinks michael j fox is selling his disease to promote a candidate and rush limbaugh called him out for it? have you not heard of politics? he was just calling him out for it thats all.

[Broken Parachute]

That was a stupid thing to say, but Michael J. Fox did look pretty stupid there. I've seen him on camera in other places and he was only shaking subtley and barely noticeable. It's still sad that people can say stupid things like that. And Rush Limbaugh hasn't had much of a reputation for awhile.

[xshady121]

I don't think he is exploiting his disease. I think he's using his celebrity to bring focus to this illness.

theres a difference between bringing focus to teh illness and a highly political person not taking his pills and then saying "this is the effects of what happens if stem cell research isn't allowed". he was misleading in a political sense. He made it sound like it is illegal to conduct stem cell research, when it is infact legal and many states, including the state the senator i believe he was endorsing was from have some form of research going on. It's just not funded by the fedeeral govt.

[rocktometal]

Both guys are losers.

[Low Level Owl]

the senator is from missouri. I believe they are having a vote pretty soon on whether or not to make it legal for stem cell research. I think it is perfectly fine for michael j. fox, who would benefit from stem cell research, to make that commercial. I think people need to lay off of him. It's not like he can truly control how bad he shakes. Medicine may help to a certain extent.

rush limbaugh is an asshole anyways.

[Justin_stacy]

This is exactly like the Coulter "controversy," democrat’s use victims for political attacks ads and then bitch and whine when the opposing side responds. Being a victim doesn’t give someone a free ride to say and do anything they want in the name of partisan politics.

Fox flat out lied/mislead voters about Jim Talents opinion on cell research, that alone left him open for criticism from the Republicans, and no unfortunate sickness protects him from that. And no one forced him to make a partisan ad either, he could have just as easily made a nameless nonpartisan commercial in support of the bill. He didn’t, and there fore the public needs to be made aware of the facts surrounding the ad, they need to know that Fox lied/mislead and they have a right to know about his habit of not taking his pills prior to public appearance to drum up extra sympathy the audience (something he states in his own book).

Rush is a dick, as is anyone who rally's behind a party rather then an idea or cause is. But that doesn't change the fact that the public has every right to be informed about the actual truth in and behind a political attack ads.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3xR2hpE4bZY

[j_smith]

I hate this guy, isn't this the same man that talked mad shit about McNabb?

[Justin_stacy]

such "mad shit" that micheal irvin said "rush a point"...twice during the conversation.

[Love As Arson]

The majority of you do realise that the medication for Parkinson's is expensive, so there are individuals that do shake like that and Fox was illustrating what the disease looks like for those unfortunate enough to be without the funds to have the pills that limit the effects of the disease.

[make_this_hurt]

Not to defend Rush or anything... cus he's a dick.

But MJF has admitted to not taking his medication in order to truly "show" the diesese. Obviously, that was the point Rush was trying to make... but he shouldn't have even tried.

[xwisebuddhax]

I hope he gets the damn disease

[Trainsaw]

You guys do know that not taking the medication actually makes you shake less, its the meds that make you shake.........so his comment was completly wrong

[make_this_hurt]

You guys do know that not taking the medication actually makes you shake less, its the meds that make you shake.........so his comment was completly wrong
Um... it's the Parkinson's that makes the muscles twitch and tremor like that. It's the most well known/common symptom of the diesease.

[Justin_stacy]

You guys do know that not taking the medication actually makes you shake less, its the meds that make you shake.........so his comment was completly wrong

His comment was completely right, just a little brash.......fox even validated rush's comment in his own book.

[Trainsaw]

Um... it's the Parkinson's that makes the muscles twitch and tremor like that. It's the most well known/common symptom of the diesease.

in most cases w/ parkinson's disease he would be more tense than anything and pretty stiff

What Are the Most Common Medications Used to Treat Parkinson's?

Sinemet (levodopa/carbidopa)

Levodopa (also called L-dopa) is the most commonly prescribed and most effective medication for controlling the symptoms of Parkinson's disease, particularly bradykinesia and rigidity.

Levodopa is transported to the nerve cells in the brain that produce dopamine. It is then converted into dopamine for the nerve cells to use as a neurotransmitter.

Sinemet is made up of levodopa and another drug called carbidopa. Levodopa enters the brain and is converted to dopamine while carbidopa increases its effectiveness and prevents or lessens many of the side effects of levodopa, such as nausea, vomiting, and occasional heart rhythm disturbances. It is generally recommended that patients take Sinemet on an empty stomach, at least ½ hour before, or 1 hour after meals.

There are two forms of Sinemet, controlled-release or immediate-release Sinemet. Controlled-release (CR) Sinemet and immediate-release Sinemet are equally effective in treating the symptoms of Parkinson's disease, but some people prefer the controlled release version. Ask your doctor which approach is best for you.

While Sinemet is the most effective medication and has the least short-term side effects, it is associated with high risks of long-term side effects, such as involuntary movements (dyskinesia). Used on a long-term basis, levodopa may also cause restlessness, confusion, or abnormal movements. Changes in the amount or timing of the dose will usually prevent these side effects, but most experts now recommend alternatives to Sinemet, such as the dopamine agonists, and use Sinemet only when the alternatives fail to provide sufficient relief.


http://www.webmd.com/content/article/46/1833_50759.htm


while yes symptoms of parkinson's is not being able to control muslce movement, the treatment someone is taking can cause the movement problems aswell even possibly worse, notice i never said that people w/ Parkinson's don't shake, I said they shake less off of the meds.

[ThatGuy]

here's the funny thing about all this. rush says shit like this so people on this website and others talk about him, which makes you listen to his radio show to see what other ignorant off-base thing he says then you listen to his commercials.

as idiotic as this is, it sells soap. and as long as it sells soap, it will be continue to be said.

you just perpetrate it by giving it publicity

[Trainsaw]

here's the funny thing about all this. rush says shit like this so people on this website and others talk about him, which makes you listen to his radio show to see what other ignorant off-base thing he says then you listen to his commercials.

as idiotic as this is, it sells soap. and as long as it sells soap, it will be continue to be said.

you just perpetrate it by giving it publicity

but i'm not listening to his show......

[we are cured]

Rush is a dick, as is anyone who rally's behind a party rather then an idea or cause is. But that doesn't change the fact that the public has every right to be informed about the actual truth in and behind a political attack ads.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3xR2hpE4bZY

well said.

[Jason Tate]

well said.
No .. not really.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

I hope he gets the damn disease


stooping to his level will definitely prove your point
well done

[youcomebeforeyo]

I judge this on my grandad who had parkinsons.

He had medication, he took pills but he never stopped moving. In his latter years it was worse than MJF is on the ad. From a first person perspective of knowing someone with parkinsons I can say he was not exagerating the effects, yes he could have held them back but what he showed us is what parkinsons truely does. Anyone who disagrees with that is flat out wrong.

[Justin_stacy]

No .. not really.


Of course, cause the truth is such a threat.

[Jason Tate]

Of course, cause the truth is such a threat.
The truth? Nothing you've posted.

You're living in a fantasty world.

[lightcollapse]

that's what happens as a side effect of the medication. it's fucking sad and that's how a lot of people have to live. fuck you guys who don't know SHIT about the disease and are critics of someone who has it and is fighting to help millions of people.

[birdman]

The truth? Nothing you've posted.

You're living in a fantasty world.

It is funny that I have been reading this website for a few years now and I never read anything political on here until the mall punk scene became riddled with pseudo-activists and fake-intellectuals. Thats why Im always a dick about this kind of shit Jason, because your opinions are not your own but rather part of a sick trend of trying to be political by spewing out liberal nonsense remarks (i.e. bush is hitler, limbaugh would be better off dead etc...)

That is the problem with liberals in general these days. They have nothing to say, only things to bitch about. The have no plan except to attack the opponents plans, they have no opinions they just disagree with anything a republican said. The fact of the matter is that if Fox was in an ad for a Republican candidate and Al Franken made the same remarks that Limabugh made then you would think it was funny. But now you are trying to look like you are taking the moral high ground by condemning it when all you are doing is putting a spotlight on what is wrong with american politics these days. It is always about attacking, never about issues. You are accountable, I am accountable, Limbaugh is accountable, and so is Fox.

[1Roth4]

Jason

didn't you close the thread about him earlier? then why make another?

[thejetstolehome]

i'm sick of this whole "liberals' opinions aren't their own" bullshit. my opinions on things were formulated by my personal beliefs and views on life not just because a powerful democrat or some funny comedian with a liberal POV said them.

and you talk about liberal talking points being bad; but what about when conservatives use phrases like "cut and run" and "blame america first" when talking about people with opinions different than their own.

[make_this_hurt]

i'm sick of this whole "liberals' opinions aren't their own" bullshit. my opinions on things were formulated by my personal beliefs and views on life not just because a powerful democrat or some funny comedian with a liberal POV said them.

and you talk about liberal talking points being bad; but what about when conservatives use phrases like "cut and run" and "blame america first" when talking about people with opinions different than their own.
Totally agree.

Matt ftw.

[TheBaroness]

Fox was actually suffering symptoms caused by his MEDICATION in this advert. An excess of dopamine causes Tardive Dsykinesia (an excess of motion, inability to control muscle movements), which is what he appears to be afflicted with in this clip.

Rush Limbaugh/Bill O'Reilly/Ann Coulter etc. are doing more harm for their cause than good. You fight the battle of ideas with superior IDEAS, not slander and inflamatory rhetoric.

[birdman]

Fox was actually suffering symptoms caused by his MEDICATION in this advert. An excess of dopamine causes Tardive Dsykinesia (an excess of motion, inability to control muscle movements), which is what he appears to be afflicted with in this clip.

Rush Limbaugh/Bill O'Reilly/Ann Coulter etc. are doing more harm for their cause than good. You fight the battle of ideas with superior IDEAS, not slander and inflamatory rhetoric.

Anything you can say about Limbaugh/O'Reily/Coulter I can say about Bill Mahr/Michael Moore/Al Franken.

[TheBaroness]

Anything you can say about Limbaugh/O'Reily/Coulter I can say about Bill Mahr/Michael Moore/Al Franken.

I don't disagree with that (though I think Bill Mahr is quite amusing).

[Brett9]

I know everyone has their own opinion, which is a good thing. But I've gotta jump in here with mine... I am a conservative, and a fan of Rush. (I know...I should burn in hell - thanks.) But I ALSO completely understand why some people hate Rush. Although I think saying that he would be better off dead is MUCH worse than what Rush said about Fox...but that's just my opinion.

I would not have put it the way Rush did. However, I do feel that he was correct in his underlying point. If Fox had made that ad asking for donations to his cause, and Rush said what he said, that would be wrong. BUT Fox's ad was political. It's SOLE purpose was to lead the public to believe that one candidate cares more about Parkinson's disease than the other candidate does. That, right there, puts ANYONE into the political arena. Once you're in that arena, you are fair game. That was Rush's entire point. He feels that it's typical liberal tactics to use "victims" (9/11 widows, Cindy Sheehan, etc.) to try to persuade the public toward their side, because they believe that these "victims" are beyond criticism. He did not accuse him of "faking" his Parkinson's. He felt that he was using his disease to help a political candidate by EMPHASIZING his disease. While that may be OK in drawing public attention to your cause, it is NOT OK for drawing attention to one candidate over another. Go read the transcripts of the show (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/eibessential3/mjf0.member.html) (aka: get ALL the facts, from ALL sides) before jumping on the bash-Rush bandwagon.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

Rush Limbaugh/Bill O'Reilly/Ann Coulter etc. are doing more harm for their cause than good. You fight the battle of ideas with superior IDEAS, not slander and inflamatory rhetoric.

good point
liberals never do that


ever

[lightcollapse]

I know everyone has their own opinion, which is a good thing. But I've gotta jump in here with mine... I am a conservative, and a fan of Rush. (I know...I should burn in hell - thanks.) But I ALSO completely understand why some people hate Rush. Although I think saying that he would be better off dead is MUCH worse than what Rush said about Fox...but that's just my opinion.

I would not have put it the way Rush did. However, I do feel that he was correct in his underlying point. If Fox had made that ad asking for donations to his cause, and Rush said what he said, that would be wrong. BUT Fox's ad was political. It's SOLE purpose was to lead the public to believe that one candidate cares more about Parkinson's disease than the other candidate does. That, right there, puts ANYONE into the political arena. Once you're in that arena, you are fair game. That was Rush's entire point. He feels that it's typical liberal tactics to use "victims" (9/11 widows, Cindy Sheehan, etc.) to try to persuade the public toward their side, because they believe that these "victims" are beyond criticism. He did not accuse him of "faking" his Parkinson's. He felt that he was using his disease to help a political candidate by EMPHASIZING his disease. While that may be OK in drawing public attention to your cause, it is NOT OK for drawing attention to one candidate over another. Go read the transcripts of the show (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/eibessential3/mjf0.member.html) (aka: get ALL the facts, from ALL sides) before jumping on the bash-Rush bandwagon.

he's a victim of the disease, while talking about it is he supposed to pretend like he doesn't have it or act normal and get his poitn across?

[TheBaroness]

good point
liberals never do that


ever

Knackers, I'm right-wing (economically at least), so it's not like I'm biased against them or anything. It seems to me that pundits on the right have more of a tendancy to make themselves look stupid and ignorant than those on the left. And I don't care what anyone say, Ann Coulter is just a nutbag. She scares me.

[thejetstolehome]

good point
liberals never do that


ever

you say that with complete ignorance as to what she said about two posts before:

I don't disagree with that (though I think Bill Mahr is quite amusing).

[birdman]

you say that with complete ignorance as to what she said about two posts before:

Listen man you are fucking 19 years old and you dont know shit about anything. Once your parents stop paying your way give me a call and let me know what side of the political fence you are on.

[make_this_hurt]

Listen man you are fucking 19 years old and you dont know shit about anything. Once your parents stop paying your way give me a call and let me know what side of the political fence you are on.
I'm on the same side he is... and my parents don't pay for anything.

I work full time and go to school full time and pay all my own bills.

[thejetstolehome]

Listen man you are fucking 19 years old and you dont know shit about anything. Once your parents stop paying your way give me a call and let me know what side of the political fence you are on.

you know shit about me. so shut your fucking mouth. i wasn't calling the kid ignorant i was just saying it was stupid of him to make the comment he did when the girl clearly stated what he was saying in a post before.

and the whole "you're x years old" argument just makes you look like a complete fucking asshole. and i'm so sorry i couldn't pick when my parents fucked to make me. damn, i guess that makes me stupid. i apologize.

[thejetstolehome]

Listen man you are fucking 19 years old and you dont know shit about anything. Once your parents stop paying your way give me a call and let me know what side of the political fence you are on.

oh and again, no one, including my parents, formulated my political opinion. i did. if anything, i influenced theirs because i seem to care a little more than they do.

EDIT: but i bet if my opinion were the same as your's you'd be cool with my age right?

[Jason Tate]

It is funny that I have been reading this website for a few years now and I never read anything political on here until the mall punk scene became riddled with pseudo-activists and fake-intellectuals. Thats why Im always a dick about this kind of shit Jason, because your opinions are not your own but rather part of a sick trend of trying to be political by spewing out liberal nonsense remarks (i.e. bush is hitler, limbaugh would be better off dead etc...)

That is the problem with liberals in general these days. They have nothing to say, only things to bitch about. The have no plan except to attack the opponents plans, they have no opinions they just disagree with anything a republican said. The fact of the matter is that if Fox was in an ad for a Republican candidate and Al Franken made the same remarks that Limabugh made then you would think it was funny. But now you are trying to look like you are taking the moral high ground by condemning it when all you are doing is putting a spotlight on what is wrong with american politics these days. It is always about attacking, never about issues. You are accountable, I am accountable, Limbaugh is accountable, and so is Fox.
You couldn't be more wrong.

Keep making assumptions.

And Fox has campaigned for Republicans.

The words you're looking for are, "Damn, I'm stupid."

[Justin_stacy]

The truth? Nothing you've posted.

You're living in a fantasty world.

Personally I don't fault you; the complexity of fact and fiction is too much for some.

[mark3611]

Limbaugh is a huge douche, but the federal government shouldn't be in the business of funding stem cell research or 90% of the other things that it funds...

[thejetstolehome]

Limbaugh is a huge douche, but the federal government shouldn't be in the business of funding stem cell research or 90% of the other things that it funds...

why not?

[birdman]

I think it is worth noting that BILL CLINTON signed the Dickey Amendment into law in 1995 which prohibited government funding for stem cell research from human embryos. GEORGE W. BUSH was the first president in history to provide funding stem cell research in 2001 (to the tune of 100 million). In 2005 he vetoed a bill that would enable researchers to use stem cells from disposed human embryos.

Maybe some of you should get your facts straight before you start ranting about how the federal ban on stem cell research is some Republican conspiracy.

[thejetstolehome]

I think it is worth noting that BILL CLINTON signed the Dickey Amendment into law in 1995 which prohibited government funding for stem cell research from human embryos. GEORGE W. BUSH was the first president in history to provide funding stem cell research in 2001 (to the tune of 100 million). In 2005 he vetoed a bill that would enable researchers to use stem cells from disposed human embryos.

Maybe some of you should get your facts straight before you start ranting about how the federal ban on stem cell research is some Republican conspiracy.

i haven't read the whole thread and maybe i missed something but i don't think anyone said that.

[birdman]

There was an undertone to this thread that I thought I would address

[thejetstolehome]

There was an undertone to this thread that I thought I would address

i thought it was more about limbuagh/MJF's actions in the commerical.

:shrug:

[thejetstolehome]

as to political ads: i'm so fucking glad these things are going to be done away with after we vote in nine days. i'm so sick of candidates' ads whether they be democrat or republican.

[make_this_hurt]

i haven't read the whole thread and maybe i missed something but i don't think anyone said that.
Nope no one did. He's just trying to be cool.

[NameTaken69]

as to political ads: i'm so fucking glad these things are going to be done away with after we vote in nine days. i'm so sick of candidates' ads whether they be democrat or republican.
holy shit i am so sick of hearing them or seeing them all over the place. i have seen enough lamont and lieberman ads to last a few lifetimes

[Fedaykin]

you know shit about me. so shut your fucking mouth. i wasn't calling the kid ignorant i was just saying it was stupid of him to make the comment he did when the girl clearly stated what he was saying in a post before.

and the whole "you're x years old" argument just makes you look like a complete fucking asshole. and i'm so sorry i couldn't pick when my parents fucked to make me. damn, i guess that makes me stupid. i apologize.
I have to agree with the idea that "the whole "you're x years old" argument just makes you look like a complete fucking asshole"

It's repeated so often on all these forums: you're x years old, therefore your view doesn't matter. Since when does age equal intelligence?

Mozart started composing at 5 years old. What if somebody had said, "Shit, you're just a dumb fucking kid. Get off that piano and roll around in the dirt and play with your dog."

Case in point. Age = intelligence, doesn't work. Age does = experience, which can sometimes lead to wisdom, but can also lead to pretension, pride and hubris.