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MrMet
10/30/06, 04:47 PM
:-p

make_this_hurt
10/30/06, 04:47 PM
Haha.

Chriz2z
10/30/06, 04:48 PM
:gatekeeper:

MrMet
10/30/06, 04:50 PM
:gatekeeper:

I was just saying what's up. You know being friendly/announcing the unbanning. Shout out to Jason Tate and Caleb.

youkwalks
10/30/06, 04:51 PM
nice adress

The Matt Kaufman
10/30/06, 04:55 PM
hahaha ohhhhhh boy

hi mr met :wave:

mikeford
10/30/06, 05:03 PM
f.aggot.

Yankees' #1 Fan
10/30/06, 05:05 PM
This message is hidden because MrMet is on your ignore list (http://www.absolutepunk.net/profile.php?do=editlist).

make_this_hurt
10/30/06, 05:07 PM
This message is hidden because MrMet is on your ignore list (http://www.absolutepunk.net/profile.php?do=editlist).
Haha.

MrMet
10/30/06, 05:08 PM
f.aggot.

:stick:

MrMet
10/30/06, 05:10 PM
This message is hidden because MrMet is on your ignore list (http://www.absolutepunk.net/profile.php?do=editlist).

M-(

Broken Parachute
10/30/06, 05:13 PM
My avatar sums up this thread.

Chriz2z
10/30/06, 05:14 PM
I was just saying what's up. You know being friendly/announcing the unbanning. Shout out to Jason Tate and Caleb.
So say hi, not wave your tongue in our face.

MrMet
10/30/06, 05:18 PM
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/mrmetismyscreenname/mrmetweber-1.jpg

MrMet
10/30/06, 05:22 PM
Anyway, I "retire" from the sport's forum, so peace out.

thejetstolehome
10/30/06, 05:22 PM
this is no one caring about your fantasy football win.

preppyak
10/30/06, 05:26 PM
this is no one caring about your fantasy football win.
haha

Yankees' #1 Fan
10/30/06, 05:33 PM
if i had to resort to being "hated" on the internet, for form of amusement id probably just murder/suicide my family and call it a life. this kid stinks at life and may his halloween candy be death inducing.

mattregan
10/30/06, 05:36 PM
he didn't do anything so I don't see what the big fuss is all about.

xbrokendownx
10/30/06, 05:46 PM
go mets

Broken Parachute
10/30/06, 05:47 PM
go yankees

mikeford
10/30/06, 05:50 PM
go to hell. the both of you.

Broken Parachute
10/30/06, 05:59 PM
go red sox and devils and patriots and cowboys and celtics

mht
10/30/06, 06:09 PM
go red sox and devils and patriots and cowboys and celtics


ahahhaha

The Matt Kaufman
10/30/06, 06:32 PM
go red sox and devils and patriots and cowboys and celtics

hahahaha perfect

Scott Weber
10/30/06, 10:22 PM
this is no one caring about your fantasy football win.
especially when i had hasselbeck and portis out this week. who gives a shit.

Drew Beringer
10/30/06, 10:23 PM
Make like Yadier Molina and leave this ballpark.

Split2nd
10/30/06, 10:24 PM
Make like Yadier Molina and leave this ballpark.
*shakes head in disgust of awful joke*


more like make like Yadier Molina and be the worst player ever.

bigmike
10/30/06, 10:31 PM
*shakes head in disgust of awful joke*


more like make like Yadier Molina and be the worst player ever.
No dude, according to that one Cardinals fan, molina's .216 batting average is in no way indicative of his hitting prowess. Duh.

Split2nd
10/30/06, 10:36 PM
No dude, according to that one Cardinals fan, molina's .216 batting average is in no way indicative of his hitting prowess. Duh.
.216 is almost like .220, which in the NL Central is like a .320 in any other division.

mht
10/30/06, 11:14 PM
*shakes head in disgust of awful joke*


more like make like Yadier Molina and be the worst player ever.


make like the lakers and fucking suck.

mikeford
10/30/06, 11:24 PM
cuz the 6ers are tearin it down right?

Brownpants06
10/31/06, 12:07 AM
make like a good joke.....


(eg the new york knicks)

Split2nd
10/31/06, 06:54 AM
cuz the 6ers are tearin it down right?
^^




suck it.

Zeran
10/31/06, 06:55 AM
My avatar sums up this thread.

indeed.

thejetstolehome
10/31/06, 06:58 AM
No dude, according to that one Cardinals fan, molina's .216 batting average is in no way indicative of his hitting prowess. Duh.

yea man! i mean, we don't watch all the games so we really don't know. we're not in any position to judge, right?

The Matt Kaufman
10/31/06, 07:06 AM
a .216 hitter is great I think

lollerskates

mht
10/31/06, 08:15 AM
i'm not a sixers fan ahhaha fucking idiots.

livethesounds
10/31/06, 09:05 AM
grow up kids.

so mr met made a thread to state that he had be unbanned, then he "retires"
at least he went out on top?

justinevans
10/31/06, 09:56 AM
make like a tree and get the fuck outta here

livethesounds
10/31/06, 09:57 AM
make like a tree and get the fuck outta here

haha

mikeford
10/31/06, 11:21 AM
i'm not a sixers fan ahhaha fucking idiots.

oh yeah, its stupid to assume someone from PA is a sixers fan. youre right.

so what teams bandwagon did you latch onto?

richter915
10/31/06, 11:24 AM
doesn't everyone hate this mrmet guy?

ForlrnPerplxity
10/31/06, 12:51 PM
No dude, according to that one Cardinals fan, molina's .216 batting average is in no way indicative of his hitting prowess. Duh.
He'll hit above .255 next year, book it.

Either way, Yadi came up big and Pudge shit a brick.

bigmike
10/31/06, 03:32 PM
i'm not a sixers fan ahhaha fucking idiots.
Oh, you'll let us know then in Februray what team you're running with? Who's your favorite now? The Mavs? Suns? Heat? Spurs?
He'll hit above .255 next year, book it.

Either way, Yadi came up big and Pudge shit a brick.
OMGZ!!!!!!!!!!!! I so just got pwn'd!!!!!!!!!

Yadier Molina is the worst hitter in the NL. Jeff Suppan is average. You're in denial and your opinion means nothing because you're the least objective fan i've ever seen post here.

Broken Parachute
10/31/06, 03:42 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/nardishawt/nnq_3.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/nardishawt/phi.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/nardishawt/was.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/nardishawt/kan.gif

mht's sig

Dirty Ernie
10/31/06, 04:14 PM
i doubt he has lived in or near all of those cities, but i will wait to read his defense

Split2nd
10/31/06, 04:23 PM
who gives a shit

Lakers > Wizards

The Matt Kaufman
10/31/06, 04:28 PM
thats why i have mht on block

mattregan
10/31/06, 07:53 PM
figures a mr. met thread would be full of drama. haha. somethings never change.

The Matt Kaufman
10/31/06, 08:27 PM
nope it doesnt

leftstranded
10/31/06, 09:29 PM
who let him back in?

ForlrnPerplxity
10/31/06, 10:02 PM
Molina is the worst hitter in the NL. Jeff Suppan is average. You're in denial and your opinion means nothing because you're the least objective fan i've ever seen post here.
He was obviously the worst hitter as a starter in the 2006 regular season in his 2nd year as a full-time starter. But he's going to hit better next year, and my bet is around .250-.260. Never said he's ever going to be a solid hitter, but he'll definitely be better.

Stop acting like you think you know everything by looking up stats on ESPN and pretending like you know what you're talking about.

FondestMemory
10/31/06, 10:05 PM
He was obviously the worst hitter as a starter in the 2006 regular season in his 2nd year as a full-time starter. But he's going to hit better next year, and my bet is around .260. Never said he's ever going to be a solid hitter, but he'll definitely be better.

Stop acting like you think you know everything by looking up stats on ESPN and pretending like you know what you're talking about.

at least there's some logic to what he's saying. you're saying a dude's gonna up his average by 40 points but giving no logical explanation as to why.

mikeford
10/31/06, 10:09 PM
okay so replace 6ers with wizards and my point still stands. the wizards are just arenas and the JOB squad

ForlrnPerplxity
10/31/06, 10:11 PM
at least there's some logic to what he's saying. you're saying a dude's gonna up his average by 40 points but giving no logical explanation as to why.
He hit .252 in his first year as a full-time starter. You can't judge him just based on his 2006 season as his 2nd year in the full-time role. I've seen him hit, and I really don't think he's as bad as his 2006 indicated. Sure, I could be wrong, but I really think he'll hit between .250-.260.

It just looks awful to go on some stat website and think you know what you're talking about without really ever seeing the player actually, ya know...play.

FondestMemory
10/31/06, 10:15 PM
He hit .252 in his first year as a full-time starter. You can't judge him just based on his 2006 season as his 2nd year in the full-time role. I've seen him hit, and I really don't think he's as bad as his 2006 indicated. Sure, I could be wrong, but I really think he'll hit between .250-.260.

It just looks awful to go on some stat website and think you know what you're talking about without really ever seeing the player actually, ya know...play.

if you can't judge him just based on his second year, why can you just him just based on his first year?

and your misunderstanding of stats is just silly. i can go to a website and see somebody's a .216 hitter. by seeing him in person, does that make him a better hitter? no, his average is still .216 whether i see him or not. that whole argument is just fucking dumb.

ForlrnPerplxity
10/31/06, 10:19 PM
if you can't judge him just based on his second year, why can you just him just based on his first year?

and your misunderstanding of stats is just silly. i can go to a website and see somebody's a .216 hitter. by seeing him in person, does that make him a better hitter? no, his average is still .216 whether i see him or not. that whole argument is just fucking dumb.
He's convinced he's as awful of a hitter as his .216 average when it was his 2nd year as a full-time player. He hit .252 the year before, and yet he's still convinced he's going to continue to hit .216 for the rest of his career. He's never seen him play to make a judgement on that, it's stupid.

Split2nd
10/31/06, 10:24 PM
He's convinced he's as awful of a hitter as his .216 average when it was his 2nd year as a full-time player. He hit .252 the year before, and yet he's still convinced he's going to continue to hit .216 for the rest of his career. He's never seen him play to make a judgement on that, it's stupid.
Note that no one ever said he's going to hit .216 for the rest of his career; but he DID hit .216 last year, which made him the worst hitter in the league.

ForlrnPerplxity
10/31/06, 10:28 PM
Note that no one ever said he's going to hit .216 for the rest of his career; but he DID hit .216 last year, which made him the worst hitter in the league.
and BigMike thinks that makes him the worst hitter in the NL by default, as if he's going to do that for the rest of his career. He's never actually seen the guy play, and thinks he knows what he's talking about when he says this shit based on one shitty year (his 2nd year as a full-time starter). No, Yadier Molina will probably never win a hitting award, but I think he's going to really improve on last year.

histrionics22
10/31/06, 10:31 PM
Note that no one ever said he's going to hit .216 for the rest of his career; but he DID hit .216 last year, which made him the worst hitter in the league.
I'm sure if the Pirates continued to play Burnitz he would have killed that average.

Molina is one of the best defensive catchers in the league. He's still learning on the offensive side of things. He's only 24 years old.

Split2nd
10/31/06, 10:38 PM
I'm sure if the Pirates continued to play Burnitz he would have killed that average.

Molina is one of the best defensive catchers in the league. He's still learning on the offensive side of things. He's only 24 years old.
Burnitz actually has some pop though.

Not only does Yadier Molina hit .216, but he has no plate discipline and no power. So essentially, he's useless.

bigmike
10/31/06, 11:20 PM
He's convinced he's as awful of a hitter as his .216 average when it was his 2nd year as a full-time player. He hit .252 the year before, and yet he's still convinced he's going to continue to hit .216 for the rest of his career. He's never seen him play to make a judgement on that, it's stupid.
You're right, I shouldn't judge him on his 2nd full season but judging him on a rookie season makes tons more sense. Please.

And there's not much to see when a guy puts up .216 avg/.274 OBP/.321 SLG. I haven't seen him play as much as you have, clearly. However, in baseball, the most numerical game in the american culture when you ACTUALLY CAN judge a player on stats. I know that may shock your fragile little mind, but you can judge players based on their stats. his career .238 average seems about right with what he'll hit for the rest of his career.
and BigMike thinks that makes him the worst hitter in the NL by default, as if he's going to do that for the rest of his career. He's never actually seen the guy play, and thinks he knows what he's talking about when he says this shit based on one shitty year (his 2nd year as a full-time starter). No, Yadier Molina will probably never win a hitting award, but I think he's going to really improve on last year.
....Show me a starter in the NL that had a worse average than Yadier Molina. then I'll concede that he wasn't the worst hitter in the NL. I know he's not a .216 hitter for the rest of his career. However, .230-.240, though an improvement, still isn't ANYTHING to brag about as a MLB hitter.

However, he's one of the top 5 defensive catchers in the Majors and I'll take him in an instant because of his youth and defensive abilities/arm.

But he was the worst hitter in the league. case closed. to argue that is ridiculous. But then again, that'd still be on par with your arguments.

ForlrnPerplxity
10/31/06, 11:46 PM
You're right, I shouldn't judge him on his 2nd full season but judging him on a rookie season makes tons more sense. Please.

And there's not much to see when a guy puts up .216 avg/.274 OBP/.321 SLG. I haven't seen him play as much as you have, clearly. However, in baseball, the most numerical game in the american culture when you ACTUALLY CAN judge a player on stats. I know that may shock your fragile little mind, but you can judge players based on their stats. his career .238 average seems about right with what he'll hit for the rest of his career.

....Show me a starter in the NL that had a worse average than Yadier Molina. then I'll concede that he wasn't the worst hitter in the NL. I know he's not a .216 hitter for the rest of his career. However, .230-.240, though an improvement, still isn't ANYTHING to brag about as a MLB hitter.

However, he's one of the top 5 defensive catchers in the Majors and I'll take him in an instant because of his youth and defensive abilities/arm.

But he was the worst hitter in the league. case closed. to argue that is ridiculous. But then again, that'd still be on par with your arguments.
You seem dense. I agreed that he was the worst hitter in the NL in 2006. I just think he's going to improve to a .250-.260 average next year, and you make that seem as if it's ridiculous. I realize I may be wrong, but to judge his career on one season (when he hit .252 for his first year as a starter) at his age as you seem to be doing seems ridiculous.

bigmike
10/31/06, 11:48 PM
You seem dense. I agreed that he was the worst hitter in the NL in 2006. I just think he's going to improve to a .250-.260 average next year, and you make that seem as if it's ridiculous. I realize I may be wrong, but to judge his career on one season (when he hit .252 for his first year as a starter) at his age as you seem to be doing seems ridiculous.
So you're judging it on his rookie year, yet I can't judge it on his most recent season when he should've been improving as a hitter.

Interesting.

ForlrnPerplxity
10/31/06, 11:53 PM
So you're judging it on his rookie year, yet I can't judge it on his most recent season when he should've been improving as a hitter.

Interesting.
I'm judging him based on what I've seen from him as a player, including his first season as a starter. He also did a pretty good job as a backup to Matheny.

I'm also admitting I may be wrong in my judgement. But from what I've seen in his career, I really do think he can improve to a .250-.260 average next year and not be such a dead bat in the lineup.

histrionics22
11/01/06, 05:17 AM
Burnitz actually has some pop though.

Haha. Not this past year.

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 06:56 AM
I'm judging him based on what I've seen from him as a player, including his first season as a starter. He also did a pretty good job as a backup to Matheny.

I'm also admitting I may be wrong in my judgement. But from what I've seen in his career, I really do think he can improve to a .250-.260 average next year and not be such a dead bat in the lineup.

i just don't get what your reasoning is as to why he'll improve like that as a hitter. the whole "judging him based on what i've seen" argument is just not that strong. based on that, i could say "chien meng wang will go 30-3 this season because of stuff i've seen from him." it's a ridiculous argument.

histrionics22
11/01/06, 07:02 AM
i just don't get what your reasoning is as to why he'll improve like that as a hitter. the whole "judging him based on what i've seen" argument is just not that strong. based on that, i could say "chien meng wang will go 30-3 this season because of stuff i've seen from him." it's a ridiculous argument.
When Molina first came up he was seen as great defensively with the potential to consistently hit near .270 every year. This is likely what he's judging him on. It's impossible to know how good he'll be based of his first 2 seasons. He definitely has the potential to be solid offensively.

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 07:21 AM
When Molina first came up he was seen as great defensively with the potential to consistently hit near .270 every year. This is likely what he's judging him on. It's impossible to know how good he'll be based of his first 2 seasons. He definitely has the potential to be solid offensively.

i'm not saying he won't--it's just when a guy's hit below .260 for 2 years, it's hard to see that especailly when the argument is basically 'because i say so."

Split2nd
11/01/06, 05:12 PM
He's not going to be solid, although I think he'll hit around .250 next year. His value will always be defensively, he has absolutely no offensive upside.

Some assclown made a bet with me on another forum that Yadier would be better than McCann in the major categories (AVG, HR, R, RBI) this year.

oof

fcknazisympathy
11/01/06, 05:22 PM
i just don't get what your reasoning is as to why he'll improve like that as a hitter. the whole "judging him based on what i've seen" argument is just not that strong. based on that, i could say "chien meng wang will go 30-3 this season because of stuff i've seen from him." it's a ridiculous argument.

33-0*

mht
11/01/06, 05:22 PM
Oh, you'll let us know then in Februray what team you're running with? Who's your favorite now? The Mavs? Suns? Heat? Spurs?



na, i cheer for bad teams, im not really a fan of pa teams except for the phillies and flyers, i cheer for northeastern because my best friend players football there, other than that ive been a wizards/bullets fan and kc fan because of my father and it just kind of passed it on to me.

mht
11/01/06, 05:24 PM
okay so replace 6ers with wizards and my point still stands. the wizards are just arenas and the JOB squad


celtics have no room to talk.

Split2nd
11/01/06, 05:31 PM
na, i cheer for bad teams, im not really a fan of pa teams except for the phillies and flyers, i cheer for northeastern because my best friend players football there, other than that ive been a wizards/bullets fan and kc fan because of my father and it just kind of passed it on to me.

so what you're trying to say is you're a douche?

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 05:46 PM
33-0*

oh sorry.

with 33 complete perfect games and 891 strike outs.

Split2nd
11/01/06, 05:57 PM
oh sorry.

with 33 complete perfect games and 891 strike outs.
10 strikeouts*

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 06:02 PM
10 strikeouts*

haha touche. but dude! he's got strikeout stuff! and from what i've seen from watching all his games, he's got the potential to strike everyone out! you can't judge 'cause you don't watch the games!

:hitself:

mht
11/01/06, 06:38 PM
so what you're trying to say is you're a douche?


whatever helps you sleep at night 16 year old.

LeftWideOpen
11/01/06, 06:41 PM
whatever helps you sleep at night 16 year old.

ooo the age card. lets disregard the fact that split2nd brings tons of knowledge to this forum and you didnt even make it out of the womb in that department.

and 20 year old thinks the 19 year old is a douche, too. if thats an important factor to you.

mht
11/01/06, 06:42 PM
ooo the age card. lets disregard the fact that split2nd brings tons of knowledge to this forum and you didnt even make it out of the womb in that department.

and 20 year old thinks the 19 year old is a douche, too. if thats an important factor to you.

nope.

Split2nd
11/01/06, 06:43 PM
whatever helps you sleep at night 16 year old.
good one.

congrats for your parents accidentally conceiving you before my parents had me.

preppyak
11/01/06, 06:57 PM
whatever helps you sleep at night 16 year old.
you're basically a bastard child of Still_Life and Asianxcore, except without any statistical knowledge to misuse

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 07:31 PM
nope.

yup.

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 07:34 PM
i'm not saying he won't--it's just when a guy's hit below .260 for 2 years, it's hard to see that especailly when the argument is basically 'because i say so."
Read it again if you have to, it's not just "because I say so". I admit I could be wrong. But with the potential he had coming up from the minors, with his year backing up Matheny, with his first year as a starter, I'm not going to let 1 bad year determine what he's going to do with his career. I've followed him a lot closer than you have, and really think he has the *potential* to do what I've said next year. That's not hard to follow, I hope you get it this time.

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 07:41 PM
Read it again if you have to, it's not just "because I say so". I admit I could be wrong. But with the potential he had coming up from the minors, with his year backing up Matheny, with his first year as a starter, I'm not going to let 1 bad year determine what he's going to do with his career. I've followed him a lot closer than you have, and really think he has the *potential* to do what I've said next year. That's not hard to follow, I hope you get it this time.

i get it but i still don't think just watching him is a valid argument. if i were to say "i think jeff karstens is going to win 10-15 games in the major leagues next year because of what i saw from him in his few starts and you can't really make a judgement because you didn't see those games," chances are, you'd look at his numbers and call bullshit on me.

The Matt Kaufman
11/01/06, 07:42 PM
I think Gary Bennett is a terrific catcher.

heh.

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 07:47 PM
i get it but i still don't think just watching him is a valid argument. if i were to say "i think jeff karstens is going to win 10-15 games in the major leagues next year because of what i saw from him in his few starts and you can't really make a judgement because you didn't see those games," chances are, you'd look at his numbers and call bullshit on me.
I believe I'm giving more reasons that just what I've seen of him. I can understand how you'd feel if I was just saying that based on nothing, but I'm not.

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 07:50 PM
I think Gary Bennett is a terrific catcher.

heh.
That 4 game stretch or so where he had the game winning hit twice with one as a grand slam was amazing.

That being said, you'd be hard to find many catchers who hit worse than him. But I wouldn't mind having him back as the back-up to Molina.

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 07:53 PM
I believe I'm giving more reasons that just what I've seen of him. I can understand how you'd feel if I was just saying that based on nothing, but I'm not.

really?

He's convinced he's as awful of a hitter as his .216 average when it was his 2nd year as a full-time player. He hit .252 the year before, and yet he's still convinced he's going to continue to hit .216 for the rest of his career. He's never seen him play to make a judgement on that, it's stupid.

and BigMike thinks that makes him the worst hitter in the NL by default, as if he's going to do that for the rest of his career. He's never actually seen the guy play, and thinks he knows what he's talking about when he says this shit based on one shitty year (his 2nd year as a full-time starter). No, Yadier Molina will probably never win a hitting award, but I think he's going to really improve on last year.

I'm judging him based on what I've seen from him as a player, including his first season as a starter. He also did a pretty good job as a backup to Matheny.

I'm also admitting I may be wrong in my judgement. But from what I've seen in his career, I really do think he can improve to a .250-.260 average next year and not be such a dead bat in the lineup.


and also, a guy batting .252 in his rookie year isn't HORRIBLE but when he regresses nearly 40 percentage points, i don't see that as becoming a better hitter. i'm not saying he won't but it just seems like your reasoning as to why he will become a better hitter isn't even logical.

The Matt Kaufman
11/01/06, 07:53 PM
That 4 game stretch or so where he had the game winning hit twice with one as a grand slam was amazing.

That being said, you'd be hard to find many catchers who hit worse than him. But I wouldn't mind having him back as the back-up to Molina.

The guy is a scrub. Stop riding the dicks of the cardinals. Theres a reason why the guy is a backup catcher.

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 07:59 PM
and also, a guy batting .252 in his rookie year isn't HORRIBLE but when he regresses nearly 40 percentage points, i don't see that as becoming a better hitter. i'm not saying he won't but it just seems like your reasoning as to why he will become a better hitter isn't even logical.
Jesus...

I admit I could be wrong. But with the potential he had coming up from the minors, with his year backing up Matheny, with his first year as a starter, I'm not going to let 1 bad year determine what he's going to do with his career. I've followed him a lot closer than you have, and really think he has the *potential* to do what I've said next year.

How the hell is that so hard to understand? I realize he was awful in 2006. He had a good year as a rookie backing up Matheny, and had a pretty decent year as his first year as a full-time starter. He had good potential coming up from the minors, and I'm not going to let 1 year determine what he's going to do for the rest of his career. I'm not judging that on just how I've seen him hit in games. Get that out of your head.

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 08:00 PM
The guy is a scrub. Stop riding the dicks of the cardinals. Theres a reason why the guy is a backup catcher.
Please, read again what I wrote.

Some of you are hopeless.

Split2nd
11/01/06, 08:00 PM
Can we please stop talking about this and taking away from the greatness of Mr Met?

You all should be ashamed of yourselves for ruining his retirement thread.

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 08:05 PM
Jesus...

I admit I could be wrong. But with the potential he had coming up from the minors, with his year backing up Matheny, with his first year as a starter, I'm not going to let 1 bad year determine what he's going to do with his career. I've followed him a lot closer than you have, and really think he has the *potential* to do what I've said next year.

How the hell is that so hard to understand? I realize he was awful in 2006. He had a good year as a rookie backing up Matheny, and had a pretty decent year as his first year as a full-time starter. He had good potential coming up from the minors, and I'm not going to let 1 year determine what he's going to do for the rest of his career. I'm not judging that on just how I've seen him hit in games. Get that out of your head.

my only problem is that you offer NO tangible evidence as to why he'll improve as a hitter. none at all. i'm not saying let's judge his whole career on two shitty hitting seasons but when he regresses nearly 40 points after another year of experience, it confuses me as to how he's gonna be a better hitter this year.

and yes you are just judging him on how you've seen him hit because it comes up in every single one of your arguments! you say we can't say anything or we don't know what we're talking about because we haven't seen him. that's your only decipherable argument and it's a completely irrational one at that.

the potential argument is also empty as it is strictly potential. i have the potential to get an A+ on my art history exam tomorrow but it's probably not gonna happen as i got a B- on the last one i just took and the fact that i've yet to study half of the material. molina HAS the potential to be a better hitter, yes, but the fact that he's hit .252 and .216 in his career doesn't really show me that he's gonna get better. i still think he will be one of the better catchers in the league due to his outstanding defense, though.

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 08:10 PM
my only problem is that you offer NO tangible evidence as to why he'll improve as a hitter. none at all. i'm not saying let's judge his whole career on two shitty hitting seasons but when he regresses nearly 40 points after another year of experience, it confuses me as to how he's gonna be a better hitter this year.

and yes you are just judging him on how you've seen him hit because it comes up in every single one of your arguments! you say we can't say anything or we don't know what we're talking about because we haven't seen him. that's your only decipherable argument and it's a completely irrational one at that.

the potential argument is also empty as it is strictly potential. i have the potential to get an A+ on my art history exam tomorrow but it's probably not gonna happen as i got a B- on the last one i just took and the fact that i've yet to study half of the material. molina HAS the potential to be a better hitter, yes, but the fact that he's hit .252 and .216 in his career doesn't really show me that he's gonna get better. i still think he will be one of the better catchers in the league due to his outstanding defense, though.

I think he's going to hit around .260 next year. I never said he's going to win any awards. I've said what I've needed to say about 2 out of the 3 seasons he's been up in the big leagues plus what the scouts were saying about him as a player in the minors. I don't need to say anymore. And PLEASE, I know part of my argument is from what I've seen from him as a player, but it's not my whole argument at all. I'm not going to guarantee anything. I'm telling you what I THINK he's going to do. You're totally skewing what I'm saying, and it's incredibly annoying to keep replying to this. Please, stop replying to my posts on this. The argument is dead.

The Matt Kaufman
11/01/06, 08:18 PM
Please, read again what I wrote.

Some of you are hopeless.

I did

Speak for yourself on hopelessness

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 08:19 PM
I did

Speak for yourself on hopelessness
Then obviously you didn't read it right.

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 08:19 PM
I think he's going to hit around .260 next year. I never said he's going to win any awards. I've said what I've needed to say about 2 out of the 3 seasons he's been up in the big leagues plus what the scouts were saying about him as a player in the minors. I don't need to say anymore. And PLEASE, I know part of my argument is from what I've seen from him as a player, but it's not my whole argument at all. I'm not going to guarantee anything. I'm telling you what I THINK he's going to do. You're totally skewing what I'm saying, and it's incredibly annoying to keep replying to this. Please, stop replying to my posts on this. The argument is dead.

it's also incredibly annoying to see someone offer no sort of tangible evidence as to why he believes the guy will hit better.

and i'm not skewing anything you're saying--it's in every one of your posts and seems to be a relatively big part of your argument.

i think molina will probably hit better than .216 next year because, let's face it, it's almost hard to hit that poorly, but i don't htink his average is gonna jump up back towards .250 unless he hits like he did in the playoffs which probably isn't going to happen.

he's never going to be known for his hitting and if i were a cardinals fan, i honestly wouldn't care because of how great his defense is and how strong his arm is.

The Matt Kaufman
11/01/06, 08:20 PM
Then obviously you didn't read it right.

Oh I did asswipe.

You're not gonna win so give it up

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 08:21 PM
The guy is a scrub. Stop riding the dicks of the cardinals. Theres a reason why the guy is a backup catcher.

wait...what?

wasn't he just admitting that the dude isn't a great player? or are you just being really facetious? anyway, i so shouldn't be posting on AP when i have a fucking art history test tomorrow. shoot me. time to start studying. goodnight, all.

The Matt Kaufman
11/01/06, 08:21 PM
wait...what?

wasn't he just admitting that the dude isn't a great player? or are you just being really facetious? anyway, i so shouldn't be posting on AP when i have a fucking art history test tomorrow. shoot me. time to start studying. goodnight, all.

I was talking about Gary Bennett

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 08:21 PM
Oh I did asswipe.

Your not gonna win so give it up

haha you're being sarcastic, right...? i'm so lost in your little mini argument.

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 08:22 PM
I was talking about Gary Bennett

i'm so lost. forget it. :shrug: i'll let you guys work it out. play nice.

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 08:23 PM
it's also incredibly annoying to see someone offer no sort of tangible evidence as to why he believes the guy will hit better.

and i'm not skewing anything you're saying--it's in every one of your posts and seems to be a relatively big part of your argument.

i think molina will probably hit better than .216 next year because, let's face it, it's almost hard to hit that poorly, but i don't htink his average is gonna jump up back towards .250 unless he hits like he did in the playoffs which probably isn't going to happen.

he's never going to be known for his hitting and if i were a cardinals fan, i honestly wouldn't care because of how great his defense is and how strong his arm is.
My argument based on why I think he will hit .250-.260 next year:
What scouts were saying as a prospect in the minors
His first year as a back up to Matheny
His second year as a full-time starter
What I've seen from him in his entire career as a hitter

Your argument:
He hit .216 in 2006, so he must hit around there for the rest of his career

No, he will never be known for his hitting. And his defense is outstanding. I'm just saying I don't think he'll be such a dead weight in the offense next year. I'm not saying he's going to win any awards.

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 08:24 PM
Oh I did asswipe.

Your not gonna win so give it up
*You're

"That being said, you'd be hard to find many catchers who hit worse than him. But I wouldn't mind having him back as the back-up to Molina."

What part of that don't you understand?

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 08:25 PM
My argument based on why I think he will hit .250-.260 next year:
What scouts were saying as a prospect in the minors
His first year as a back up to Matheny
His second year as a full-time starter
What I've seen from him in his entire career as a hitter

Your argument:
He hit .216 in 2006, so he must hit around there for the rest of his career

No, he will never be known for his hitting. And his defense is outstanding. I'm just saying I don't think he'll be such a dead weight in the offense next year. I'm not saying he's going to win any awards.

1) i never said he was gonna hit that poorly his whole career.
2) you say it's unfair of opponents of your argument to judge him on two years but you can judge him on one year? i don't get that.

whatever. i have more important stuff to do right now. congrats to the cardinals on the WS. molina played his ass off and could go down as one of the best defensive catchers of this era.

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 08:26 PM
*You're

"That being said, you'd be hard to find many catchers who hit worse than him. But I wouldn't mind having him back as the back-up to Molina."

What part of that don't you understand?

kelly stinnet, anyone? ugh.

:hitself: @ yankees.

EDIT: can one of you two explain what you're fighting about? i'm really confused by it.

The Matt Kaufman
11/01/06, 08:27 PM
Im just being stupid by starting shit..Im tired and dont feel like doing finance..pardon my sarcasm

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 08:27 PM
1) i never said he was gonna hit that poorly his whole career.
2) you say it's unfair of opponents of your argument to judge him on two years but you can judge him on one year? i don't get that.

whatever. i have more important stuff to do right now. congrats to the cardinals on the WS. molina played his ass off and could go down as one of the best defensive catchers of this era.
You're judging him on one year. I'm judging him on scouts, 2 years in the majors, and what I've seen from him. He's not as bad as his .216 average in 2006. .250-.260 isn't great either, but that's what I think he'll do. That's not so bold of a statement as you might think it is.

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 08:28 PM
Im just being stupid by starting shit..Im tired and dont feel like doing finance..pardon my sarcasm
hahah it's cool. this is more fun for me anyway. I don't get pissed off by what anybody says. I hope no one does about what I say.

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 08:30 PM
Im just being stupid by starting shit..Im tired and dont feel like doing finance..pardon my sarcasm

okay that's what i thought.

You're judging him on one year. I'm judging him on scouts, 2 years in the majors, and what I've seen from him. He's not as bad as his .216 average in 2006. .250-.260 isn't great either, but that's what I think he'll do. That's not so bold of a statement as you might think it is.

i'm judging him on his two years in the league and how much he regressed in terms of average from one to the other. it doesn't foreshadow good things. maybe i'll be wrong. maybe i'll be right. who knows? let them play, i guess.

jsdfojadso;fajs I DON'T NEED TO BE POSTING HERE RIGHT NOW!

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 08:31 PM
okay that's what i thought.



i'm judging him on his two years in the league and how much he regressed in terms of average from one to the other. it doesn't foreshadow good things. maybe i'll be wrong. maybe i'll be right. who knows? let them play, i guess.

jsdfojadso;fajs I DON'T NEED TO BE POSTING HERE RIGHT NOW!
This is more fun!!

Frustrating, but fun.

The Matt Kaufman
11/01/06, 08:33 PM
and this place is the reason why I havent studied for any of my 4 tests in the next week much this week..bleh

thejetstolehome
11/01/06, 08:35 PM
This is more fun!!

Frustrating, but fun.

haha failing my art history test tomorrow should be fun too. ugh i hate gen. ed. requirements that i have to meet after transferring. okay now i'm really going to study.

i leave you with this:

did truman drop the bomb to defeat the japanese or to scare the russins? discuss. lol @ linda richman.

The Matt Kaufman
11/01/06, 08:38 PM
haha failing my art history test tomorrow should be fun too. ugh i hate gen. ed. requirements that i have to meet after transferring. okay now i'm really going to study.

i leave you with this:

did truman drop the bomb to defeat the japanese or to scare the russins? discuss. lol @ linda richman.

Lol. My friend is taking art history and has a test too.

I think he did it to defeat the japanese..but I like talking about sports versus politics.

good luck :wave:

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 08:38 PM
haha failing my art history test tomorrow should be fun too. ugh i hate gen. ed. requirements that i have to meet after transferring. okay now i'm really going to study.

i leave you with this:

did truman drop the bomb to defeat the japanese or to scare the russins? discuss. lol @ linda richman.
good luck. i'm transferring schools for the 3rd time in 3 1/2 years. this time for good.

The Matt Kaufman
11/01/06, 08:38 PM
Why is it stupid shit gets 100+ replies in the general forum but I post something sensible and it gets 6

ForlrnPerplxity
11/01/06, 08:40 PM
Why is it stupid shit gets 100+ replies in the general forum but I post something sensible and it gets 6
7.

mattregan
11/02/06, 11:27 AM
Why is it stupid shit gets 100+ replies in the general forum but I post something sensible and it gets 6

8!

Zeran
11/02/06, 11:54 AM
Why is it stupid shit gets 100+ replies in the general forum but I post something sensible and it gets 6

because the general forum is full of a bunch of dumbasses