Coheed & Cambria are Split in Half

[Jason Tate]

Alternative Press (http://www.altpress.com/news/) is reporting that bassist Mic Todd and drummer Josh Eppard are no longer with Coheed and Cambria (http://www.absolutepunk.net/coheedandcambria).

[justinevans]

that info had been posted on this site a long time ago.

[Jason Tate]

that info had been posted on this site a long time ago.
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=159628

Just that they weren't touring, now they're officially out of the band.

[Tony Pascarella]

Is Eppard the one who did Weerd Science? Because that was an interesting side project.

[lftcoastenvy05]

please more weerd science, that shit kicked ass. 'girl your babys wormfood' is so good

[whiteboypain]

whoa...what!???

[Ailite]

It's now Claudio and Cambria.

I'm really fucking sad about this.

[justinevans]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=159628

Just that they weren't touring, now they're officially out of the band.

ahhh okay...so ready for the season?

[lightcollapse]

more like cohowned and cambria!

[dyingurthhorizo]

Claudio and Travis make up what a lot of people like about CoCa. I'm not worried...

[FUCKDIRTYWIPES]

fuck that, anyone know why?

[buysoap]

that sucks

[foisol]

Sad... I liked those guys.

[Saucey McRib]

This band's DONE

Josh was so bucknasty at drums

Mic was fuckin pimp

[buysoap]

if anyone wants more info why, its here:

In August, two-time AP cover stars (http://alternativepress.com/news/index.htm#1454)Coheed And Cambria (http://www.coheedandcambria.com/) were temporarily downsized (http://altpress.com/news/1080.htm) when bassist Mic Todd and drummer Josh Eppard were unable to tour with the band for personal reasons. We have now received word that the split is official: Todd and Eppard are no longer members of Coheed.

"For me, it's kind of hard to say exactly why [they're out of the band]," frontman Claudio Sanchez tells AP. "There were moments where it felt like it could've been creative differences and, maybe just a dislike of touring [on their part]. I think that's really what's brought us to this moment. It started off this summer with Josh giving us a call and saying, 'I can't do this tour.' And, ya know, we couldn't really call it a tour if we didn't get that call. He would always say he couldn't do it. But we would talk about it and he'd be cool with it. But this time around, it didn't work out and he refused to come to Europe. We had MP [ex-Samiam] fill in because it seemed like the logical choice. As we started doing Europe, Mic said that he wanted to endure. But around the time that we hit Barcelona, he decided he could no longer do it as well. So, really, they left on their own and I honestly haven't spoken to them since that day in June. Actually, when we were done with Europe, we got them on the phone and talked and tried to figure something out, but they wanted to go in a different direction. [Guitarist] Travis [Stever] and I have been doing our thing and they haven't reached out to us.

"It's hard to lose them because they played such an important role in this band," Sanchez continues. "It's hard to go through a drastic change like that, but I don't look at it as a bad thing. I felt there were creative differences to some degree most of the time, especially with In Keeping Secrets and Good Apollo..., it felt like Josh and Mic weren't even at the studio--and honestly, they weren't. They'd come and play their parts and that was about it. Not to discredit them, but it's just going to allow for a freer and more interesting process."

Coheed fans, fear not: The band are in no danger of breaking up. Sanchez informs AP that he and Stever have already begun rehearsals for the band's new album, with a surprising addition behind the kit.

"Right now, we've just started rehearsing for the new album," he says. "Matt Williams [of pre-Coheed band Jumblehead] is on bass and we actually got Chris Pennie from Dillinger Escape Plan on drums. We're kind of toying with that lineup and it's hard to say if that will be the new foundation of Coheed And Cambria. We're just kind of feeling them out and they're feeling us out and it's hard to say what the final outcome will be. But I'm looking at this as a new beginning and not a downer. There were so many ideas I wanted to do with this band that I felt like I wasn't going to get full cooperation from everyone and just kind of kept them to myself. Now it feels like a new beginning and I actually kind of get goose bumps when I think about it."

The band's new lineup plan on heading into the studio in early 2007 with plans for a late-2007 release.

source: http://alternativepress.com/news/index.htm#1454

[leckomaniac]

This is indeed an unfortunate turn of events.

While Claudio is the driving force behind Coheed, the contributions of these two men could not be ignored.

[jfb392]

I thought if any member left, the band was done?

[Adrian Villagomez]

that sucksSoundwave!

[justinevans]

This band's DONE

Josh was so bucknasty at drums

Mic was fuckin pimp

Josh really wasn't that great at drums.

I mean I've seen shows where they brought on an extra drummer who was better.

[alreadyheardit]

holy shit though...

the dillinger drummer could be amazing

[ADreamToCrush]

Claudio seems like such an arrogant dick to me though., Maybe its just cause when i saw them live cl;audio fucking ignored the crowd and the bassist man talked to us and was thankful. I mean i love the music but i could see this shit coming a while away. tres disappointing though. hopefully the band stays good,,,

pardon my inebriated commentary.

[alexwohl29_90]

god dammmmit:(:(:(:(

Mic was my favorite...oh well...I still loveCoCa

[Drew Beringer]

Not worried.

[You Got Owned]

first phil of this providence... now mic and josh?

fuckin shitty

[drew-is-cool]

sucks to see them go, they were one of the better rhythm sections on rock, IMO.

but Coheed will continue. And for that I am thankful.

[HoboAdam]

you cant go wrong having members of DEP filling it

[You Got Owned]

i feel like an idiot for not knowing what IMO stands for..

someone please inform me

[justinevans]

i feel like an idiot for not knowing what IMO stands for..

someone please inform me

in my opinion

[TheEndofGravity]

Josh really wasn't that great at drums.

I mean I've seen shows where they brought on an extra drummer who was better.


how can you say that? he makes time consumer the amazing song that it is!!

[justinevans]

how can you say that? he makes time consumer the amazing song that it is!!

I'm just saying when I saw them live in central park before good apollo came out, they had another drummer there and he was far better.

[You Got Owned]

in my opinion
sweet

[CantBeStopped]

this does suck..and i agree with the time consumer thing..i was just saying how great that song is. but i hope coheed continues with their natural progression and doesnt change drastically because of new members..they are one of my favorite bands and have just started to break out..

[autistk]

t doesn't carry on down that lame road

[catscradle]

bummer.

[brooklynburning]

chris pennie on drums? wow. the drumming ability just increased ten fold.

[Johnis]

This sucks, hopefully this doesn't detract from their sound. Really digging the Prize Fighter Inferno though, for something different. 'Run, Gunner Recall, Run! The Town Wants You Dead!' is teh sex.

[middlenameboom]

This sucks, hopefully this doesn't detract from their sound. Really digging the Prize Fighter Inferno though, for something different. 'Run, Gunner Recall, Run! The Town Wants You Dead!' is teh sex.

This news is lame, but yah your totally dead on. I love the Prize Fighter Inferno so much. What an awesome side project. I haven't heard much about it on this site which is weird. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places. I was blown away at how much I liked The Prize Fighter Inferno, but yah, I hate it when bands I like loose members, it's almost never the same afterwards.

[ffafan]

shitty wished them the best of luck..the new dvd is way good

[a hybrid]

um a percussionist is not another drummer nor can you compare the two. and that is exactly what they had in central park. a percussionist to add the extra element to compliment and recreate the songs off of good apollo.

[Saucey McRib]

Josh really wasn't that great at drums.

I mean I've seen shows where they brought on an extra drummer who was better.


Yeah I was kidding. I thought the word bucknasty would give that away.

We call him Josh Masters and we kinda ripped on the fact that he played the same beat for every song on apollo. I don't know he's been a constant form of entertainment for me and my friends, and it's a sad day indeed.

I got the bucknasty thing from some youtube comment on a dvd clip

[quickandsilver]

easily replaceable. maybe not the drummer though. well see

[Saucey McRib]

easily replaceable. maybe not the drummer though. well see

Dude, check out Dillinger Escape Plan. Trust me.

[UltimoScenester]

No matter what it scares me when my favorite band's nucleus splits in half. I'm sure Coheed will carry on, but I fear how this could change things.

I may be overreacting since I am slightly drunk

[ACA]

Sstb > *

[himynameisjm]

Chris from dillenger???? Oh damn... oh damn . . .


crazy

[weworemasks]

This band's DONE

Josh was so bucknasty at drums

Mic was fuckin pimp

hahahahhahaa are you fucking serious? the band is claudio, and a product of his fucked up imagination. don't talk crazy.

[DreamOfUnity]

No way.
:(

[sean omerta]

I'm happy for Michael getting to where he needs to be.
I'm surprised this took this long.

[p, FRY]

anyone who actually follows the band knew about this months ago. and no, not the touring part, the real deal.

and anyone who sees this as a bad thing, doesnt realise that both Josh and Mic were quite the drug addicts and their behaviour very unsettling to the group.

[Ozma622]

Hmm my drum teacher had just talked to me about how he was working with a drummer that worked on coheeds "new album". The name he mentioned wasnt the same drummer....

[thesecondplace]

No matter what it scares me when my favorite band's nucleus splits in half. I'm sure Coheed will carry on, but I fear how this could change things.

I may be overreacting since I am slightly drunk

"There were so many ideas I wanted to do with this band that I felt like I wasn't going to get full cooperation from everyone and just kind of kept them to myself. Now it feels like a new beginning and I actually kind of get goose bumps when I think about it."

Has anyone heard Claudio sound this optimistic in a long time? I have no worries.

[FASSWcore]

haha, i saw this news on lambgoat, and didn't believe it to be true, simply because it was lambgoat. so i came here for verification.

[a speedo model]

That sucks.

[tonythetiger432]

I was worried about this when I saw them at the Glass House in the summer. I was like "hey, Mic and Josh aren't here... who are these other guys?" I hoped they were just out for a personal emergency or something, but now that they're officially out I'm really sad.

[GlassyLight]

Mic is a madman on the bass - it's not exactly audible on the album, but his live improv during Al the Killer was fucking insane - playing his main riff up the neck about three octaves higher then skipping back down to hit the low F#/B's for the chorus then back up.

Had he only played a six string....he'd undoubtedly be a disciple of les claypool.

this blows, but, as has been said - this band is claudio, and i don't think they can go wrong with any member of DEP filling in.

[Tom Good]

Wow, I was JUST thinking about this last night. The news kind of bums me out as a huge Coheed fan. Josh and Mic were just the rhythm section but they also had pretty unique styles that just suited the music and the live performnace. Claudio and Travis better not mess this up nowo.

[mr chainsaw]

anyone who actually follows the band knew about this months ago. and no, not the touring part, the real deal.

and anyone who sees this as a bad thing, doesnt realise that both Josh and Mic were quite the drug addicts and their behaviour very unsettling to the group.

oh no you didnt

[VGB]

This does suck, they finally got a good mix with Mic in Good Apollo. I guess touring can really put a strain on people, I wish them the best.

[mr chainsaw]

I had read that they didnt like the direction of the material on good apollo...I mean since the second stage turbine blade...with each album they have gotten consistently more straightforward pop (not watered down by any means) just more pop...

If they had gotten anyone else besides the guy from dillinger, I would probably never see them live again...but I just want to see what he can bring to the band.

[MonkeyBars]

I had read that they didnt like the direction of the material on good apollo...I mean since the second stage turbine blade...with each album they have gotten consistently more straightforward pop (not watered down by any means) just more pop...

If they had gotten anyone else besides the guy from dillinger, I would probably never see them live again...but I just want to see what he can bring to the band.

Huh? So no matter how killer their next album could be, if it wasn't that one man on drums (which it may not be, we don't know yet) you would never go to see them live again? Let me repeat: Huh?

[jake_rm]

I'm glad they left, Claudio and the guitarist were beginning to get up there own arses anyway.
30min set at Reading and Leeds, Claudio was soloing for about 10.

[p, FRY]

oh no you didnt

what?

[Nigel Tufnel]

Who gives a damn. Dude from Dillinger Escape Plan is an amazing drummer and bass players that could play what their bass player plays are a dime a dozen.


I hate to break your hearts little sweeties, but, if youve ever been in a band, you would know that in about 99.9999999 percent of band situations, the singer and guitar players write the music :-p

[Ruggiero2oo8]

I'm not too worried, although I never like it when members leave band

[leftstranded]

sounds like it's going to be alright. they were cool dudes but it just wasn't working out. good luck to both camps

[aloneatlastnj]

I hate to break your hearts little sweeties, but, if youve ever been in a band, you would know that in about 99.9999999 percent of band situations, the singer and guitar players write the music :-p

just another reason why thrice > coheed. riley contributes more riffs than you'd think.

[IATA4224]

Chris Pennie is a madman on the drums... This might be worth listening too

[FatJordan]

Is Eppard the one who did Weerd Science? Because that was an interesting side project.

It may have already been answered in the other 3 pages, but just to make sure it goes answered...yes, he was. And yes, that album is absolutely SICK.

[Stephen Chamberlain]

[quote=mr chainsaw;4702112]I had read that they didnt like the direction of the material on good apollo...I mean since the second stage turbine blade...with each album they have gotten consistently more straightforward pop (not watered down by any means) just more pop...

quote]


If you think the "Willing Well" songs from Good Apollo were straightforward, then you're deaf. That's as prog as they've been so far.

[Manbotisdead]

just another reason why thrice > coheed. riley contributes more riffs than you'd think.


I'd still rather not pollute my ears with Thrice.

[HiddenInNJ]

Pennie on drums should definitely add another aspect to this band... It's a shame that this has been going on for so long because this band seemed very tight knit

[Nigel Tufnel]

just another reason why thrice > coheed. riley contributes more riffs than you'd think.

Oh, I agree that drummers can definately write little parts here and there, even change the groove and fell of the whole song. But, what I meant was, it is an extremely rare occasion when a song is built off of a drum groove. The majority of songs are built from a vocal/guitar/piano melody idea.

[Bury Your Head]

This band will maybe fall apart. I just have a feeling but who knows a static lullaby had three people leave and now they are better than ever

[Bury Your Head]

I'd still rather not pollute my ears with Thrice.


Uhhhhhhhhhh your a idiot. The end. Thrice is as talented as they come

[Humres0083]

if anyone wants more info why, its here:



source: http://alternativepress.com/news/index.htm#1454

cough cough - heroine addiction, and im not talking about that shitty fftl album

[L.G. FUAD]

If there is still Claudio, there is still Coheed...I'm not too worried.

[Scott Weber]

I saw this coming from a mile away.

[Clarity1987]

this band has gone down hill...

[[Brendan]]

I saw this coming from a mile away.Amen. I'm really intested to see what Chris Pennie can bring to this band.

[lipslkemorphine]

I'd still rather not pollute my ears with Thrice.


wtf????

[weworemasks]

I'd still rather not pollute my ears with Thrice.

ahahahh wow. pathetic.

[Saucey McRib]

hahahahhahaa are you fucking serious? the band is claudio, and a product of his fucked up imagination. don't talk crazy.


EXPLAINATON ON PAGE 3

[mr chainsaw]

Huh? So no matter how killer their next album could be, if it wasn't that one man on drums (which it may not be, we don't know yet) you would never go to see them live again? Let me repeat: Huh?

well this band had an amazing chemisty (at least they did live) and that is why I always made to their shows...it was just a great musical experience...if you watch the latest dvd...you can tell...but beyond the musical experience...the show experience is ruined by the fans..

first i stopped going into the pit/front area because all of these little girls and boys crowd the area and i have to listen to them scream the words at the top of their lungs to all the bands singles...then when a non-single track comes on they just stand there and dance...

so then I started standing on the area outside of the pit and on the side so I am standing with even younger kids and their parents with the kids screaming the words of the singles and then just not knowing what to do when they play an old song or a non single track...this is why i do not go to shows unless its alkaline trio, punchline, or the lawrence arms or small punk rock shows...

I know I am not alone in this...shows are just not fun anymore and its because all of these bands get really popular and they attract fans they dont want.

You know, Black Sabbath stopped releasing singles after the paranoid era because they started seeing young boys and girls at their shows and they didnt wanted to attractive that kind of crowd. I just fear that with the power of the internet, this fad will not die...

[mr chainsaw]

[quote=mr chainsaw;4702112]I had read that they didnt like the direction of the material on good apollo...I mean since the second stage turbine blade...with each album they have gotten consistently more straightforward pop (not watered down by any means) just more pop...

quote]


If you think the "Willing Well" songs from Good Apollo were straightforward, then you're deaf. That's as prog as they've been so far.

I never called them progressive...and they are most certainly not.

[You Got Owned]

[quote=theDrivingSnow;4702703]

I never called them progressive...and they are most certainly not.

you're ridiculous

[murdah1]

this is really a dissappointment because mic and josh were great. mic was a fantastic bassist. Neither one of them ever really gets any credit for making that band great.

[mr chainsaw]

just listen to the band 3...they are so good...eppards brother is a sick guitarist

[mr chainsaw]

[quote=mr chainsaw;4704478]

you're ridiculous

why, the only thing slightly progressive about them are claudio's lyrics and "story"...this not a negative thing i listen to coheed a lot and own their cd's...but they are not progressive...if you want to hear prog, listen to rush(certain albums are more than others), pain of salvation, king crimson, or Ark

[tbsunday14]

shit i was scared for a while. Its all good though, i cant wait for a new album.

[mr chainsaw]

True statement. I don't care all that much for 3, but if you hear the live version of "Bramfatura", you will soil your pants.

i took a live video when i saw 3 of bramfatura it is ridiculously amazing!

[Manbotisdead]

Uhhhhhhhhhh your a idiot. The end. Thrice is as talented as they come

My friend, it would be you're an idiot.

Way to look like a third grade asshole. Thrice isn't anything out of the ordinary either, maybe they have talent for the scene they are in, but to say they are as talented as they come when they are small fish in a very big pond is just foolish. Thanks for playing though.

[Bury Your Head]

My friend, it would be you're an idiot.

Way to look like a third grade asshole. Thrice isn't anything out of the ordinary either, maybe they have talent for the scene they are in, but to say they are as talented as they come when they are small fish in a very big pond is just foolish. Thanks for playing though.

i would like to see you play like riley maybe even dustin any of them. unless your as talented.please

shut the fuck up

they sure as hell have better musicanship than Coheed

[risew/thefallen]

i think im going to cry.

[secretninja]

shit man...

[Manbotisdead]

i would like to see you play like riley maybe even dustin any of them. unless your as talented.please

shut the fuck up

they sure as hell have better musicanship than Coheed


ha I never said I could play like them, but Coheed is way more intricate and write more unique songs.

[Shatter_Glass]

Claudio and Travis make up what a lot of people like about CoCa. I'm not worried...

Amen. Plus a new rhythm section to freshen things up cannot hurt at all.

[Chris Fallon]

I just watched their live DVD the other day. This really catches me off-guard. I am totally shocked by this. Damn...

[chrisxxx]

chris from dillinger playing drums, this would be amazing!

[tiff_taff]

This band's DONE

Basically.

[sirensiren]

this is heartbreaking? yeahhhh

[ALLbany]

Let me just say that I am pissed. I am a bass player who was first attracted to this band when SSTB came out because of the bass playing. I really generelly hate bands in this arena/culture, because most bass players just pick 1/8 note roots the entire time. Todd's legatto finger plucking was exactly what I was looking for in a band that explored structure and harmony whil still maintaining pop sensibility. Eppards style also was unique for a band like this, and fit perfectly with Todd's unorthodox and intricate lines.

They were the reason I liked this band! They were the reason I bought all of their cd's while still maintaining my dislike for claudio's voice!

I saw them this spring in Poughkeepsie (NY). Great show, but you could tell something was up with Todd. He looked super super skinny, and just didn't seem right. I said to my friend at the time that he looked strung out. I was thinking coke or heroin at the time. Could it really be the booze and OC's?

I want to know more. If anybody has real LEGIT info, let me know. And I am also sick of crowd surfing seventh graders kicking me in the head.

Please share info