Judge Rules In Favor Of Hawthorne Heights

[Rohan Kohli]

At a hearing on Tuesday, a judge ruled in Hawthorne Heights (http://www.hawthorneheights.com)' favorhttp://www.kingsofar.com, stating that the band has grounds for terminating their contract with Victory due to just cause, and thus the lawsuit is not over, as previously claimed by Victory Records. An official press release is expected in the very near future.

[Aneurisms07]

Good.

[xearlynovemberx]

Good for HH

[*crying stars*]

Hopefully this is the end of it.

[Jacktheskipper]

This could get interesting ... if anyone`s interested my band recently posted a livevideo from Taste Of Chaos on myspace: http://www.myspace.com/getawaydrivers ... leave us comments if you`ve got time to waste ...

[jetsto]

time to party

[notoaststereo]

:::generic tony brummels an asshole line?:::

[bonefacekillah]

oh shit

[emptyvictory]

Kick Brummels ass--althugh this isn't over yet

[iihungrieii]

good for them

[Slaur]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!Tony Brummel was just bitch slapped.

[WSUskee]

I never thought I would see people on this website saying good for Hawthorne Heights. I guess it takes the hate of Victory to push us to this point. I actually like the band and im glad they are getting away from Victory.

[ByelineCole]

uh oh

[lftcoastenvy05]

driver side impact better be hoping brummell doesnt go too far far into this right after they just get signed by victory

[Cottage Cheese]

I never thought I would see people on this website saying good for Hawthorne Heights. I guess it takes the hate of Victory to push us to this point. I actually like the band and im glad they are getting away from Victory.

as much as I dislike HH's music, at least their their fighting against someone taking advantage of their music for his own gain. as for the other bands I love on Victory, I hope they don't have to go through the same bullshit.

[AShannon04]

Hopefully this is the end of it.

"thus the lawsuit is not over, as previously claimed by Victory Records."

nope.

[Drew Beringer]

HH is now
http://i10.tinypic.com/2uokxvl.gif

[$!!]

Good for them.

Their new label (Virgin, i imagine) definetly hooked these guys up on their new deal.

Fuck what you thought you knew. These guys probably tripled their income.

[CountMeOut923]

i hope victory shuts down. please god. or just kick tony out of the office so the rest of the bands can live their lives as a band

[plain white t's]

good for them, tony sucks balls

[SLoT]

okay?

[MKEcasey]

I never thought I would see people on this website saying good for Hawthorne Heights. I guess it takes the hate of Victory to push us to this point. I actually like the band and im glad they are getting away from Victory.

I personally do not like the music of HH. But the guys in the band, as people are great. I have a lot of respect for them in that aspect. After all they did for Bayside after the John Beatz incident last year, carbon copy media (even if that is in the air, he is making an effort to expose new bands into the industry), and I have just heard they are nice guys to their fans. That last one I can't back up since I have never seen them live, nor have I met them. But from friends that have met them, they have told me good things.

[BGP]

HH is now
http://i10.tinypic.com/2uokxvl.gif
roflcopter

[best_mistake392]

awesome
good for them ^^

[Flags of Dawn]

Hopefully this is the end of it.

At a hearing on Tuesday, a judge ruled in Hawthorne Heights' favorOpens in New Window, stating that the band has grounds for terminating their contract with Victory due to just cause, and thus the lawsuit is not over, as previously claimed by Victory Records. An official press release is expected in the very near future.

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[weworemasks]

This could get interesting ... if anyone`s interested my band recently posted a livevideo from Taste Of Chaos on myspace: http://www.myspace.com/getawaydrivers ... leave us comments if you`ve got time to waste ...

what in the hell? why are you promoting your band in a hawthorne heights lawsuit thread? hahahaha.

HH is now
http://i10.tinypic.com/2uokxvl.gif

amazing.

[Julia Conny]

Justice is served.

[Joe DeAndrea]

Good.

[Bury Your Head]

As much as I hate hh and think they don't deserve a ounce of the success they got I really am pulling for them to win and beat the devil label victory is.

[Bury Your Head]

i hope victory shuts down. please god. or just kick tony out of the office so the rest of the bands can live their lives as a band

Haha yesssssssss I'm with you on that one

[Roboman]

Yesss, sweet.

[*crying stars*]

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Sorry, I got distracted and thus read it too quickly.
I had to help someone here at the hospital.

[danielplaysbass]

sweet

[zizou1790]

HH is now
http://i10.tinypic.com/2uokxvl.gif



hahahahahaha ilu

[thisisrightnow]

as much as I dislike HH's music, at least their their fighting against someone taking advantage of their music for his own gain. as for the other bands I love on Victory, I hope they don't have to go through the same bullshit.

I have a feeling The Junior Varsity is already going through the same thing minus the lawsuit bit. I was reading Andy's (TJV) myspace and he made a blog about how he hasn't received one dime from Victory, or something along those lines.

[Mitch]

Awesome.

[DRUMMERGIRL121]

good.

[EmoErk]

its great how this summer on the warped tour i had 2 different bands that were on victory tell me how they dont get any support from their own record company. they are still on the label though, and they arent any of the bands trying to get out. i just simply said "yea im not a fan of your boss but you guys rock" and they agreed that brummel sucked as a boss and one band even mentioned that if they werent getting as big as fast as he hoped they were put "back shelf"

good for HH, woodruff is a good guy, very caring and loves all his fans, im not even a big fan really at all, but respect needs to be given to them.

i could see richard from drive thru and tony rolling around in money naked together.. haha they are both fucks

[explosion party]

Flawless victory.

[lophatjello]

it doesnt make me like their music, but good for them

[Matt_Dizzle]

thats good.

[thenewline]

its great how this summer on the warped tour i had 2 different bands that were on victory tell me how they dont get any support from their own record company. they are still on the label though, and they arent any of the bands trying to get out. i just simply said "yea im not a fan of your boss but you guys rock" and they agreed that brummel sucked as a boss and one band even mentioned that if they werent getting as big as fast as he hoped they were put "back shelf"

good for HH, woodruff is a good guy, very caring and loves all his fans, im not even a big fan really at all, but respect needs to be given to them.

i could see richard from drive thru and tony rolling around in money naked together.. haha they are both fucks

drive thru takes really good care of there bands.it was the wholoe geffen/mca deal that soured alote of things

[Ruggiero2oo8]

good for them.

[Ailite]

HH-1
Victoty-0

Good.

[AShannon04]

I have a feeling The Junior Varsity is already going through the same thing minus the lawsuit bit. I was reading Andy's (TJV) myspace and he made a blog about how he hasn't received one dime from Victory, or something along those lines.

that sucks. I love TJV.

[bruisexblackeye]

drive thru takes really good care of there bands.it was the wholoe geffen/mca deal that soured alote of things

yeah right.

[ThatGuy]

i never do this...(this being use ftw in a post but...)

dan friedman..ftw

[iheartlancebass]

This could get interesting ... if anyone`s interested my band recently posted a livevideo from Taste Of Chaos on myspace: http://www.myspace.com/getawaydrivers ... leave us comments if you`ve got time to waste ...
no one is interested man. you are 27 and still hang out in these message boards? i think i have about another year left before i move on...

[Eurotrash Drock]

no one is interested man. you are 27 and still hang out in these message boards? i think i have about another year left before i move on...

its alright, hes german, cultural faux pas

[Jacktheskipper]

what in the hell? why are you promoting your band in a hawthorne heights lawsuit thread? hahahaha.



amazing.

haha, cause I was tired and read the first couple of threads and just put it in there ... perhaps not wrong in case of people looking at this thread, there will be many ;-) ...

[allthruwinter]

Awesome.

[allthruwinter]

HH is now
http://i10.tinypic.com/2uokxvl.gif

Laugh my ass off. Most def.

[leftstranded]

HH is now
http://i10.tinypic.com/2uokxvl.gif
i'm convinced that you will find any excuse to post that. i expect to see it all day tomorrow during all the nfl games, especially the colts game

on another note i'm glad to see that HH got out of victory, no band should ever have to go through that....unless your bowling for soup, they deserve it

[tacobell]

tony brummel isnt satan like many of you would like to believe. he runs his label very well, if he didnt none of you would know who he or any of his bands were. its a very common thing for bands to not like thier label as the label cant always provide the resources that band feel they deserve. with a roster boasting over 50 bands you can imagine that the label is constantly being asked for this or that.

[permanentdan]

good hopefully they can get this over with and move on to a label with someone who will actually help them, and not rob them. good luck with the rest of the case guys!!

[Chris Fallon]

Good for them. This is a huge hurdle they've passed, and it will definitely change the landscape of the relationships regarding contracts between bands and labels from here on out. I don't think many realize how much this could affect that band/label relationship.

[rufiocardtime]

Haha yesssssssss I'm with you on that one

do you guys realize that ap.net does business with victory?

[andywildrick]

im down with victory. they put our records in stores in hopes that consumers will buy them. They pay for music videos, they give bands enough money to fund a van, and they even take out commercial spots on tv.

Name another indie label that does that for NON metal bands. I know solid state and trustkill do, but for regular pop music, there are few labels that have the balls to do that.

Bands like hawthorne need to be thankful for what they have. Greediness is not a good trait. They arent owed shit. They owe all their success to victory. Every dollar of it. I want money. So does 95% of the population. You have to know when you're owed and when you're not. The desire for more money won't end until you have a few million.

Quit believing the messageboards. understand that victory would not still be a powerful record label if they were taking part in illegal activity. Did anyone here watch Fuse last year when hawthorne ads ran on nearly every commercial break? Does anyone have a clue how much that costs? Its not free thats for damn sure. Victory pays for it and has to be reimbursed by selling a product. It wouldnt make sense to have all those spots for hawthorne paid for by other bands. Your band has to make the money back or else its unfair to all the other bands. I dont want my cd sales paying for hawthorne heights commercial spots.

[rufiocardtime]

im down with victory. they put our records in stores in hopes that consumers will buy them. They pay for music videos, they give bands enough money to fund a van, and they even take out commercial spots on tv.

Name another indie label that does that for NON metal bands. I know solid state and trustkill do, but for regular pop music, there are few labels that have the balls to do that.

Bands like hawthorne need to be thankful for what they have. Greediness is not a good trait. They arent owed shit. They owe all their success to victory. Every dollar of it. I want money. So does 95% of the population. You have to know when you're owed and when you're not. The desire for more money won't end until you have a few million.

Quit believing the messageboards. understand that victory would not still be a powerful record label if they were taking part in illegal activity. Did anyone here watch Fuse last year when hawthorne ads ran on nearly every commercial break? Does anyone have a clue how much that costs? Its not free thats for damn sure. Victory pays for it and has to be reimbursed by selling a product. It wouldnt make sense to have all those spots for hawthorne paid for by other bands. Your band has to make the money back or else its unfair to all the other bands. I dont want my cd sales paying for hawthorne heights commercial spots.

who gives a fuck where you want your cd sales going towards?

i don't think you can really make an argument that hawthorne is any more greedy than victory records. they are both looking out for their own ass. and victory records is just gay. and gay is still synonymous with shitty.

[TheArdentLove]

tony brummel isnt satan like many of you would like to believe. he runs his label very well, if he didnt none of you would know who he or any of his bands were. its a very common thing for bands to not like thier label as the label cant always provide the resources that band feel they deserve. with a roster boasting over 50 bands you can imagine that the label is constantly being asked for this or that.

If a label can't satisfy all of their band's needs, then they shouldn't have over 50 bands on their label. Tony does this to himself when he decides to go sign however many bands a year.

[eversoinviting]

cool

[lostntheseethru]

i cant get that article to open...can someone sum it up for me or tell me how to get that link to work?