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NOFXdesendents5
06/25/03, 07:44 AM
What the fuck? Some stupid ass guy is trying to ban toy guns from being sold and distributed in America.
Yeah, dumbass, crime is caused by children playing cops and robbers...
WithStamin
06/25/03, 07:55 AM
These left-wing consumer safety advocates are rediculous. They try as hard as they can to protect people from their own stupidity while trampling all over their rights. It's sad that it has come to this.
yeat182
06/25/03, 08:12 AM
i used to have a sick M16 toy gun...it was way back when they actually let people make realistic looking guns
Tom Foolery
06/25/03, 09:22 AM
I saw something about this on the Daily Show quite awhile back. In protest, some guy has been giving out toy guns to children in Harlem. It didn't go over so well with the community. They seemed to think that toy guns would only add to the violence in their community. Maybe our days of playing cops and robbers are numbered.
lessthankate
06/25/03, 09:31 AM
Democrats think they are helping us have more rights and equality when they are actually taking them all away. Thats incredibly dumb and I doubt that it will pass.
Justin_stacy
06/25/03, 10:36 AM
What exactly are the positive aspects of playing with "real" looking toy guns?.........i mean i can understand "super soakers" which are designed in neon colors and in odd shapes so that they dont look real, but what does a child really need an authenic looking "m-16" for?.............
steverocks33
06/25/03, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by I_speak_ghetto
I saw something about this on the Daily Show quite awhile back. In protest, some guy has been giving out toy guns to children in Harlem. It didn't go over so well with the community. They seemed to think that toy guns would only add to the violence in their community. Maybe our days of playing cops and robbers are numbered.
that was funny
speaking as a guy who is in favor of strict gun control laws, banning toy guns is crazy. its part of every little kids childhood to play with toy guns. playing cops and robbers isnt going to lead to a kid columbining his school.
Clarett'sGreyGoose
06/26/03, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by NOFXdesendents5
What the fuck? Some stupid ass guy is trying to ban toy guns from being sold and distributed in America.
Yeah, dumbass, crime is caused by children playing cops and robbers...
is it that douchebag Lieberman that ran for VP with Gore and wanted to ban violent video games??
What the fuck is that? The world would be a much worse place if Grand Theft Auto 3 and GTA: Vice City were never made. What an idiot....
Alex Djaferis
06/26/03, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by Justin_stacy
What exactly are the positive aspects of playing with "real" looking toy guns?.........i mean i can understand "super soakers" which are designed in neon colors and in odd shapes so that they dont look real, but what does a child really need an authenic looking "m-16" for?.............
Yeah i was thnking that...it is kinda wierd.
BrandNewRock05
06/26/03, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by Justin_stacy
What exactly are the positive aspects of playing with "real" looking toy guns?.........i mean i can understand "super soakers" which are designed in neon colors and in odd shapes so that they dont look real, but what does a child really need an authenic looking "m-16" for?.............
You could argue that Barbies make little girls grow up to be sluts and pass on HIV and other STD's and cause many out-of-wedlock children that end up being aborted, or cause many more people to live below the poverty level. That how absurd it is to say guns lead to violence. I had guns when I was a kid, cap guns where you put in that roll of caps and machine guns that made that "budah-budah" sound when you held the trigger, and I also had cheesy little plastic red guns. Now witch one do you think I played more with. Of course the guns that look cool and make sounds. Its what the kids want. Who wants something that looks fake when you can have something that looks real. I mean honestly, you have to look at it from a childs standpoint, considering they are the ones playing with the guns, for the majority (some sad 23 year old still plays cops and robbers out there, I know it, so I had to add that clause in there). Its just a liberal scare tactic to stir up controversy. If a parent doesnt want a kid to play with an M-16 look alike, then dont buy it for them, but if the parents dont care, who is the government to say what you can and cannot play with. The toy guns do not actually kill people, they do not cause any form of harm.
yeat182
06/26/03, 06:34 AM
yeah, i played with toy guns my whole childhood, and now owning a gun is the last thing in the world i want to do... i never plan on owning a real one.
BrandNewRock05
06/26/03, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by yeat182
yeah, i played with toy guns my whole childhood, and now owning a gun is the last thing in the world i want to do... i never plan on owning a real one.
exactly. maybe one could argue that NOT playing with toy guns leads to gun violence. Maybe holding in all of the masculinity by not playing with guns could lead someone to pick up a gun later on in life and blow someones head off. Its pretty far fetched I know, but so is the idea that playing with guns causes violence. And even though I do not own a gun, nor do I plan to, I believe people have the right to own guns, its in the constitution. It is actually in the constitution I mean. It says, without any sort of "decoding" and "making sure what the founding fathers meant" you have the right to bear arms. Guns dont kill people. Criminals kill people. And with or without guns being legal, criminals will find a way to obtain a gun.
evil zach
06/26/03, 08:21 AM
you left out the part about the "well regulated militia" so maybe YOU should stop with the "decoding"
Any way, as long as it pretty easy to tell its a toy gun (ie. made out of plastic) the I see no problem
Matthew
06/26/03, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
Guns dont kill people.
I think the guns help. Just a little?
yeat182
06/26/03, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by evil zach
you left out the part about the "well regulated militia" so maybe YOU should stop with the "decoding"
yeah, you're right. a well regulated millitia (ie. the national guard) has the right...not private citizens
bossydacow
06/26/03, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
You could argue that Barbies make little girls grow up to be sluts and pass on HIV and other STD's and cause many out-of-wedlock children that end up being aborted, or cause many more people to live below the poverty level. That how absurd it is to say guns lead to violence.
Barbies aren't made for little girls to make them have pretend sex. Barbie didn't have children out of wedlock. Toy guns are made for pretend violence. You can't compare the two.
Justin_stacy
06/26/03, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
You could argue that Barbies make little girls grow up to be sluts and pass on HIV and other STD's and cause many out-of-wedlock children that end up being aborted, or cause many more people to live below the poverty level. That how absurd it is to say guns lead to violence. I had guns when I was a kid, cap guns where you put in that roll of caps and machine guns that made that "budah-budah" sound when you held the trigger, and I also had cheesy little plastic red guns. Now witch one do you think I played more with. Of course the guns that look cool and make sounds. Its what the kids want. Who wants something that looks fake when you can have something that looks real. I mean honestly, you have to look at it from a childs standpoint, considering they are the ones playing with the guns, for the majority (some sad 23 year old still plays cops and robbers out there, I know it, so I had to add that clause in there). Its just a liberal scare tactic to stir up controversy. If a parent doesnt want a kid to play with an M-16 look alike, then dont buy it for them, but if the parents dont care, who is the government to say what you can and cannot play with. The toy guns do not actually kill people, they do not cause any form of harm.
i never said that toys guns lead to violence.........i just asked what the positive aspects of having a toy gun are....ignoring violence what do they teach children? And why would it be such a bad thing if they arent allowed or where made to look less "real"..............
BrandNewRock05
06/27/03, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by Justin_stacy
i never said that toys guns lead to violence.........i just asked what the positive aspects of having a toy gun are....ignoring violence what do they teach children? And why would it be such a bad thing if they arent allowed or where made to look less "real"..............
Entertainment. That is what good comes from toy guns. They teach kids how to use their imagination when they make up these bank robbery games and whatnot, which I may add is a very liberal thing to do. They teach kids to get off their ass and run around the neighborhood. And it just lets kids be kids. As far as the realness of the gun goes, its just better to have something that looks real than something that doesnt. I guarentee you that if you put out two guns for 100 little boys to pick from, one was a plastic AK-47 look-alike that made sounds and stuff, and one was a neon yellow and red plastic gun with that little orange tip on it that didnt make a sound, the overwealming majority would pick the AK-47, I would even go out on a limb and say that all of them would pick the real looking gun.
BrandNewRock05
06/27/03, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by bossydacow
Barbies aren't made for little girls to make them have pretend sex. Barbie didn't have children out of wedlock. Toy guns are made for pretend violence. You can't compare the two.
I can compare the two. Girls look at Barbie. She's hot, she's blonde,she's thin, she's tall and she wears a hot mini skirt and no bra. Girls pick up on that. They begin to wear mini skirts and tube tops. Provocotive clothing has never been a good form of birth control. One could also argue that the fact that Barbie is so beautiful and thin that she could make girls feel self consious, become anorexic or bulimic and possibly commit suicide...
Now do I actually believe that. No, its super far fetched, as well as toy guns creating violence.
evil zach
06/27/03, 11:15 AM
Although I have nothing but complete and utter disgust for barbie dolls, I don't think they teach little girls to be slutty. Teach them that their worth is dertermined by their popularity and looks? definetly.
WithStamin
06/27/03, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Justin_stacy
but what does a child really need an authenic looking "m-16" for?............. That shouldn't be the question we're asking. We should ask "Why should the government get involved in this and make another regulation?". The government has become more and more authoritarian and repressive with all these rules banning this and that. What happened to people's rights? If you want to have a realistic looking toy gun, that shouldn't be against any law.
yeat182
06/27/03, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by WithStamin
That shouldn't be the question we're asking. We should ask "Why should the government get involved in this and make another regulation?". The government has become more and more authoritarian and repressive with all these rules banning this and that. What happened to people's rights? If you want to have a realistic looking toy gun, that shouldn't be against any law.
yeah, there is no point in making a law about this issue, that is a waste of everyone's time and money. leave it up to the toymakers, if people want them, they'll buy them, if the don't want them they won't buy them. no use legistating everything.
hot damn!
06/30/03, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by WithStamin
That shouldn't be the question we're asking. We should ask "Why should the government get involved in this and make another regulation?". The government has become more and more authoritarian and repressive with all these rules banning this and that. What happened to people's rights? If you want to have a realistic looking toy gun, that shouldn't be against any law. I agree with you, the decision should be left up to the parents if they want to let their own kids have a realistic toy gun or not.
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