You'll Be Checking Your Mailbox Daily...

[Jason Tate]

Pre-orders of Brand New (http://www.absolutepunk.net/brandnew)'s new album started arriving to lucky fans across the country today. We've had this submitted so many times, that I'm combing all of the submissions into this post.

Apparently, the new album does not come with lyrics. Instead, the band asks for a $1 donation to be sent to the following address and a lyric sheet of some kind will be sent to you.

Brand New
PO Box #2619
NY, NY 10108

Submitted by KillMeTheKing26

[KillMeTheKing26]

pwnt. first.

[jusscali]

thats great

[Northstar1245]

What?

[raycer]

$1 for lyrics?

though im sure the lyric sheet will be awesome. hopefully its not on notebook paper.

[Mitch]

Pretty fucking stupid if you ask me, but I'll prob. pay the dollar (I'm a little bitch).

[Kevin Kevins]

hahahahahahaha

[KillMeTheKing26]

hahahahahahaha


nice username ******.

hahahah

[PunkRocks]

www.songmeanings.net is free.

[sweetforever]

i'll send in for it, its only a dollar.

[Jason Tate]

thats great
I dunno, I buy albums for the lyrics. That's the only reason I still buy music: For the official lyrics.

I also enjoy being able to spend my first moments with a CD, on my bed, reading said lyrics and listening to the album I just purchased.

[sweetforever]

www.songmeanings.net (http://www.songmeanings.net) is free.
try but the lyrics on there aren't always accurate

[James Johnson]

Begin Tate Brand New shitstorm phase #425252

[lildevotionalx]

A donation for what? They're charging us for lyrics now too? Jesse Lacey, we know you're talented, but you are not, I repeat, NOT God :efu:

[James Johnson]

I dunno, I buy albums for the lyrics. That's the only reason I still buy music: For the official lyrics.

I also enjoy being able to spend my first moments with a CD, on my bed, reading said lyrics and listening to the album I just purchased.

I do this too.

[Mitch]

I dunno, I buy albums for the lyrics. That's the only reason I still buy music: For the official lyrics.

I also enjoy being able to spend my first moments with a CD, on my bed, reading said lyrics and listening to the album I just purchased.

Same.

Whenever an album I buy does not come with lyrics, I bug the band on Myspace for the lyrics. Controlling the Famous's album did not come with lyrics, but they were kind enough to e-mail them to me when I asked them on Myspace.

[poppa Q]

I dunno, I buy albums for the lyrics. That's the only reason I still buy music: For the official lyrics.

I also enjoy being able to spend my first moments with a CD, on my bed, reading said lyrics and listening to the album I just purchased.
Exactly. Now why is it that I am waiting until Tuesday to buy it and hear it?

[jusscali]

I dunno, I buy albums for the lyrics. That's the only reason I still buy music: For the official lyrics.

I also enjoy being able to spend my first moments with a CD, on my bed, reading said lyrics and listening to the album I just purchased.
im just saying its great they recognize that fact and went and did this...

[Jason Tate]

im just saying its great they recognize that fact and went and did this...
Oh.

[Slaur]

A buck for the lyrics?!?!WTF kind of shit is that?

[Jason Tate]

I hope (wishful thinking) whatever is sent is as detailed as the Lawerence Arms (Greatest Story Ever Told) and Thrice (Vhessiu and TAITA) booklets are. Those albums made me so wet -- and hours were spent reading them.

And no, I have no idea what international fans can do. Sorry.

[grace we bestow]

Gawd Jason yr ruining bn sooo much!!1

But really, maybe now they'll let people kwow what this dollar is going to.

[ACA]

I dunno, I buy albums for the lyrics. That's the only reason I still buy music: For the official lyrics.

I also enjoy being able to spend my first moments with a CD, on my bed, reading said lyrics and listening to the album I just purchased.


I LOVE official lyrics from the books.. but I wouldn't say that's the only reason I buy music.

I still buy music to support the artists who I love, and who spend their lives crafting something that I love.

-ACA

[eversoinviting]

that's extremely dumb

[squared82]

do the donations go to charity? or is it just an extra dollar for the heck of it?

[MonkeyBars]

Does the money go to charity or something?

[JonPlus44]

how is that an official adress? that p.o. box could be anywhere in new york city....?

:shrug:

[Jason Tate]

I LOVE official lyrics from the books.. but I wouldn't say that's the only reason I buy music.

I still buy music to support the artists who I love, and who spend their lives crafting something that I love.

-ACA
I buy t-shirts and leave money in their donation jars on tour. I buy CDs for the lyrics. Always have. I'm a huge lyrical nut-case though. I've always liked reading the lyrics more than I do looking at the artwork ...

[catchmealone]

Fuck that
McD's double cheeseburgers>>>>>>>"official" lyrics that you pay for with the cd. don't charge extra for that shit. McD's doesn't charge me extra for pickles on my double cheese, why charge me for lyrics?

I'm going to Mc Donald's to get a damn double cheese now, I'm hungry

[Jason Tate]

Gawd Jason yr ruining bn sooo much!!1
Thanks Kristen.

[Jason Tate]

how is that an official adress? that p.o. box could be anywhere in new york city....?

:shrug:
NY, NY (http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=New+York,+NY).

That's how PO boxes work.

[jusscali]

I hope (wishful thinking) whatever is sent is as detailed as the Lawerence Arms (Greatest Story Ever Told) and Thrice (Vhessiu and TAITA) booklets are. Those albums made me so wet -- and hours were spent reading them.

And no, I have no idea what international fans can do. Sorry.
hahaha made me wet... thats awesome too

[ACA]

how is that an official adress? that p.o. box could be anywhere in new york city....?

:shrug:

Yea, Jesse should give out his apartment's address instead.

-ACA

[eman83]

its only $1. Should be worth it

[dukeboy1986]

do the donations go to charity? or is it just an extra dollar for the heck of it?

Probably just for the heck of it.

[Jason Tate]

Yea, Jesse should give out his apartment's address instead.

-ACA
:rape:

[Prestonxsmith]

I wouldnt mind paying a dollar
knowing BN
it would be some cool shit

[ACA]

I buy t-shirts and leave money in their donation jars on tour. I buy CDs for the lyrics. Always have. I'm a huge lyrical nut-case though. I've always liked reading the lyrics more than I do looking at the artwork ...

I am a "lyrical nut-case" as well--it's why I was hooked onto AFI when I was a little kid a decade ago. It was that versus generic bubblegum pop and less-than-intelligent radio rock.

I, too, buy shirts (and try to leave a tip when I can) on tour.. and I only buy CDs on tour. I know that all sales help a band, but I know SO MANY bands and band members who swear that it's 100 times better to buy their shit on the road, and I know it's true.

But I still value the music; getting it for free is cool, but it's a piece of art, and art shouldn't be free. I'll always try to purchase the disc of any album I love, and lyrics are a HUGE bonus to that.

-ACA

[Jason Tate]

Anyone else's Interpunk pre-order on "back-order"?

Sort of defeats the purpose of the pre-order .... :annoyed:

[catchmealone]

I wouldnt mind paying a dollar
knowing BN
it would be some cool shit
Yea, nevermind the fact you already paid anywhere from $10-17 for it already, but what's another $1?
Although all the kids that actually pay the $1 are probably the reason the do it to begin with. I mean, if people would pay me more for something they already should have bought, I'd take it too.

[Billy]

smart business practice. way to bring in more money. imagine the amount of extra money they'll receive.

[gonfreaks]

:(

The lyrics are the best part of getting an album, I'm disappointed.

[grace we bestow]

Thanks Kristen.
Hahahah.

[Jason Tate]

I am a "lyrical nut-case" as well--it's why I was hooked onto AFI when I was a little kid a decade ago. It was that versus generic bubblegum pop and less-than-intelligent radio rock.

I, too, buy shirts (and try to leave a tip when I can) on tour.. and I only buy CDs on tour. I know that all sales help a band, but I know SO MANY bands and band members who swear that it's 100 times better to buy their shit on the road, and I know it's true.

But I still value the music; getting it for free is cool, but it's a piece of art, and art shouldn't be free. I'll always try to purchase the disc of any album I love, and lyrics are a HUGE bonus to that.

-ACA
Yeah, so do I, but deep down - it's for the lyrics. Cause the albums I love, are 97.9% of the time due to the lyrics.

[Mitch]

Anyone else's Interpunk pre-order on "back-order"?

Sort of defeats the purpose of the pre-order .... :annoyed:

If Smartpunk's is backordered, it will be the last time I pre-order. The last time I've gotten a pre-order on time was a long time ago.

I'm still waiting for my damn +44 album.

[Jenn23]

To the people who got their pre-orders already... how is Coca-Cola?

[theESCO]

Anyone who sends this band a dollar is a cunt..

[Prestonxsmith]

Yea, nevermind the fact you already paid anywhere from $10-17 for it already, but what's another $1?
Although all the kids that actually pay the $1 are probably the reason the do it to begin with. I mean, if people would pay me more for something they already should have bought, I'd take it too.
Holy shit
Its only one dollar
not 20
Dont want to pay the dollar
then dont

[TheBaroness]

I doubt this "offer" is open to intenational fans (read: foreign infidels)...fuckwits.

[James Johnson]

Great lyrics usually are what seperates an album I really like and enjoy to one I love.

[AFSjulian]

I'll end up paying the dollar, I'm sure. Seeing people's botched interpretations on lyric sites just won't do these justice.

Did anyone who preordered from BN's Merch Direct set recieve theirs yet?

[theESCO]

but it's a piece of art, and art shouldn't be free.
That's the most untrue statement i've ever heard..

[Jason Tate]

Great lyrics usually are what seperates an album I really like and enjoy to one I love.
Yeah, you definitely said that better than me.

:appl: for you.

[phaedrus]

What is the dollar being donated to? If it is going to the band, then its not really a donation. Its just a payment, haha

[Matt_Dizzle]

haha ill send a dollar

[poppa Q]

smart business practice. way to bring in more money. imagine the amount of extra money they'll receive.Exactly. And this will be strictly profit, seeing as the label is (seemingly) not involved.

[Bovasaur]

so....here i am...filling out the envelope.

[catchmealone]

Holy shit
Its only one dollar
not 20
Dont want to pay the dollar
then dont
it's not the fact that it's $1, or $20, it's the fact that the lyrics are not something that a band should charge extra for, it should be part of the package of buying the cd.

[phaedrus]

Exactly. And this will be strictly profit, seeing as the label is (seemingly) not involved.
Of course the label is involved, its not like the band are being good guys by doing this. And really do you think Jesse is going to sit around licking envelopes for everyone who does this, which is going to be in the tens of thousands I am sure? Some unpaid intern is going to have to send this shit out while the interscope big wigs play in a pool of pennies

[Jason Tate]

Exactly. And this will be strictly profit, seeing as the label is (seemingly) not involved.
Would they not make more from publishing, if they were in the album? Or is that not how that works? I've never actually read up on the subject ...

... to Wikipedia I go (if I find anything, I'll report back).

[moore182]

I dunno, I buy albums for the lyrics. That's the only reason I still buy music: For the official lyrics.

I also enjoy being able to spend my first moments with a CD, on my bed, reading said lyrics and listening to the album I just purchased.

EXACTLY!
That's not cool. I don't even know if I want this cd.

[Prestonxsmith]

its a great idea
40,000 albums sold= 10,000 dollars to each band member

[phaedrus]

it's not the fact that it's $1, or $20, it's the fact that the lyrics are not something that a band should charge extra for, it should be part of the package of buying the cd.
Exactly, or at least put them on the website for free. this has got to be the most shameless thing I have ever seen by a respectable band

[TMartin442]

i love brand new, but idk how i feel about this idea. unless of course they send a hell of a lyric booklet.

[djjazzyjeff]

think they'll take a check?

[James Johnson]

I doubt this "offer" is open to intenational fans (read: foreign infidels)...fuckwits.


hahaha im sending an aussie dollar to that address now in protest. Seriously haha.

[notoaststereo]

thats kind of dumb

[Blared]

What the hell does the dollar go to?

[ACA]

Hmm...

I wonder if this is just to make $1 off of everyone who wants lyrics, but didn't buy the CD.

So like if you just got the rip, you could send $1. Interesting.

-ACA

[Jason Tate]

Hmm...

I wonder if this is just to make $1 off of everyone who wants lyrics, but didn't buy the CD.

So like if you just got the rip, you could send $1. Interesting.

-ACA
If someone did that and didn't buy - wouldn't they naturally just wait until someone gets their copy of the lyrics and types them up on some livejournal?

:shrug:

I think adding value to the CD, not taking it away, is a better way to get people to buy the album.

/Just playing devil's advocate to your inquiry.

[TMartin442]

is this request straight from the band? is it in the cd booklet? or is some genius 14 year old in long island about to have thousands of $1 bills sent to him?

[YourMusicSucks]

That's fucking retarded. I would cancel my order for the album if it weren't too late. That's completely ridiculous.

Edit: if the lyric booklet is something NICE, that might be okay. but wow, I like brand new for the lyrics. it's not even the dollar, it's just the effort of having to do more bull shit to get the lyrics when I already did the right thing and paid for it.

[buysoap]

a lyric sheet??!?!?! ahhahahahahhahahaha

[phaedrus]

Hmm...

I wonder if this is just to make $1 off of everyone who wants lyrics, but didn't buy the CD.

So like if you just got the rip, you could send $1. Interesting.

-ACA
Haha if someone got the rip, they would know the lyrics aren't the main point of the cd

[DaTBoiDaN]

Anyone else's Interpunk pre-order on "back-order"?

Sort of defeats the purpose of the pre-order .... :annoyed:

Mine is as well. I bet it won't get here by tues. now. I'm not too happy about that to say the least.

[theESCO]

steal the album
pay for the lyrics..

[Northstar1245]

Would they not make more from publishing, if they were in the album? Or is that not how that works? I've never actually read up on the subject ...

... to Wikipedia I go (if I find anything, I'll report back).


Just go to Google Tate, you can find anything there.

[catchmealone]

i love brand new, but idk how i feel about this idea. unless of course they send a hell of a lyric booklet.
I don't care if it's a "hell of a lyric booklet"
if they want to do something awesome in the booklet for the fans, it should be for the fans, the ones who bought their album. Or perhaps do like Thrice did for TAITA and make a special edition that gets the awesome booklet, or preorders only. For the diehards who bought the album early, not the people who gave them more money

Because it's obviously about the money now, and I will continue to think so until they announce that the money is going to a worthy charity

[DaTBoiDaN]

It wouldn't suprise me if we all pay $1 and end up with a piece of plain paper with the lyrics printed on it.

[i12punk]

Did anyone ever think that maybe they're doing this so people who don't buy the album can still get the lyrics?

[AShannon04]

This is fucking bullshit and sounds like the most pretentious scam ever. :shrug:

[jetsto]

your not supposed to send cash in the mail. are we gonna send a check for one dollar? that will be funny. maybe ill send 4 quarters.

[ACA]

If someone did that and didn't buy - wouldn't they naturally just wait until someone gets their copy of the lyrics and types them up on some livejournal?

:shrug:

I think adding value to the CD, not taking it away, is a better way to get people to buy the album.

/Just playing devil's advocate to your inquiry.

Yea, I was just throwing out what crossed my mind.

I was dying for official ACBTLD lyrics, but it turned out their release show was in NYC (and what a show it was with Minus The Bear and meWithoutYou) so I didn't have to use bootleg lyrics and wait til they came around, I just picked up the CD that night.

But many times I'm relying on what I hope are the right lyrics from plyrics.com for a few months until the band makes a stop in my area.

-ACA

[phaedrus]

If Fall Out Boy or Panic pulled this everyone would shit and kill someone. Anyone defending this is nuts

[Shoes]

I dunno, I buy albums for the lyrics. That's the only reason I still buy music: For the official lyrics.

I also enjoy being able to spend my first moments with a CD, on my bed, reading said lyrics and listening to the album I just purchased.
I love BN, but this is really starting to feel like "I am THE artist" territory.

[OveriseFan]

I would bet you they never send out a single lyric sheet.

And then I'll laugh.

[TMartin442]

if it the lyrics were handwritten on notebook paper, smeared in blood, and signed by the band, i guess that might be cool.

[phaedrus]

Did anyone ever think that maybe they're doing this so people who don't buy the album can still get the lyrics?
No, because then they would have included the lyrics in the album also.

[Imtheotherguy]

I'm gonna go to that PO box and wait for Jesse Lacey to come pick up his dolla dolla bills

[Jason Tate]

is this request straight from the band? is it in the cd booklet? or is some genius 14 year old in long island about to have thousands of $1 bills sent to him?
It's in the CD booklet.

[SwedishHeat]

LAME!!!! If the printer fucked up and forgot to print the lyrics or something, I can understand, but to just not include them, but then ask a dollar for them is ludicrous (I don't really think it's ludicrous, I just wanted to put it there, so everyone knows how to correctly spell that word).

I want to know what I'm getting before I send a dollar. It's highly unlikely I'd even send a dollar anyways. Lyrics should be in the godamm booklet, that's what I'm paying the money for anyways. If lyrics aren't in the booklet, I assume the band are artsy, egotistical pricks.

Does anyone remember sending a SASE after Weezer's Blue Album, and getting those Xeroxed lyrics?? That was the strangest thing I'd ever seen. Handwritten envelope and this huge wad of folded up paper. Cool shit, though. I wonder if I still have them??

[catchmealone]

Did anyone ever think that maybe they're doing this so people who don't buy the album can still get the lyrics?
Because people who pirate music have enough morals to say
"I don't mind stealing the lyrics or the music, but NOT BOTH"

[OveriseFan]

Did anyone ever think that maybe they're doing this so people who don't buy the album can still get the lyrics?

Um...

No.

People who don't buy the album will just get the lyrics off of lyric sites anyway.

Not to mention: I bet this will be a joke among the band members. Laughing as they get thousands of dollars, which they probably aren't getting from royalties.

[phaedrus]

Um...

No.

People who don't buy the album will just get the lyrics off of lyric sites anyway.

Not to mention: I bet this will be a joke among the band members. Laughing as they get thousands of dollars, which they probably aren't getting from royalties.
I'm going with this theory

[Tony Pascarella]

You know (and there is absolutely no basis to this), there might be a cool personalized lyric sheet...handwritten or something.

It seems strange enough that there will probably be a strange resolution to it.

[Shoes]

I've definatly lost a lot of respect for this band recently and this just adds to it.

[psykosteve]

Bull shit.

If it couldn't make the CD they should just put it online for free and not make the kids who actully do buy their record spend more money because some label cheaped out on packaging.

[walshknilb281]

im sending them a roll of pennies, this idea is garbage

[Drew Beringer]

Wow, that pisses me off.

[Midtown19]

thats great


whose that hot bitch in your avatar?


PS. so, I pretty much have nothing to look forward to when the cd comes in? the only reason i buy cds anymore is to have the artwork and actual lyrics... Unless this lyric sheet comes with some thing directly from jesse lacey's body i am not wasting my time...

just kidding by the way

[catchmealone]

You know (and there is absolutely no basis to this), there might be a cool personalized lyric sheet...handwritten or something.

It seems strange enough that there will probably be a strange resolution to it.
as stated before, should be a part of the actual package. and with the thousands of cd's this will sell, I doubt they are going to handwrite all those lyrics out for each one.

[Alex DiVincenzo]

I didn't buy the CD but I'm really interested in seeing what the lyric sheet is.

[AShannon04]

I've definatly lost a lot of respect for this band recently and this just adds to it.

agreed.

[TMartin442]

maybe its really special paper with really special ink. after the cost of the stamp, envelope, ink, paper, and time, maybe that equals a dollar. /sarcasm

[Shoes]

I doubt they are going to handwrite all those lyrics out for each one.
It would add a nice touch though.

[Drew Beringer]

There is no way I am spending my own money on this album now. Fuck it.

[Mitch]

"Like omg, since it's Brand New, I bet you the lyrics booklet will be especially amazing, and that's why they are making you pay an extra dollar!"

:rolleyes:

[Jason Tate]

Bull shit.

If it couldn't make the CD they should just put it online for free and not make the kids who actully do buy their record spend more money because some label cheaped out on packaging.
The packaging/pictures are really cool though. I don't think they wanted to ruin that with the words? Maybe include them in a separate pull out sleeve though?

[Jason Tate]

"Like omg, since it's Brand New, I bet you the lyrics booklet will be especially amazing, and that's why they are making you pay an extra dollar!"

:rolleyes:
It reads you bedtime stories and cuddles with you by the fire. Didn't you hear?

[irthesteve]

are there any instructions besides that? or will sending a $1 bill to the address with my return address suffice.

i want to do it soon so that i can get the lyrics by tuesday when i get the album myself

[catchmealone]

It would add a nice touch though.
eh, as I said before, if you want to do something special like this, it should be included, and if you really want it to be special, make it for limited copies, or preorders only, or random copies
don't charge your fans

[Mitch]

What about the people that buy this album like a year from now? I doubt they'll still be sending out the lyric booklets...

[AShannon04]

The packaging/pictures are really cool though. I don't think they wanted to ruin that with the words? Maybe include them in a separate pull out sleeve though?

I know lyrics are really important, but it's not uncommon for bands to not include them at all, so to me, it wouldn't be weird to omit them completely and not even mention a lyric sheet :shrug:

[Jason Tate]

are there any instructions besides that? or will sending a $1 bill to the address with my return address suffice.

i want to do it soon so that i can get the lyrics by tuesday when i get the album myself
That's all, someone posted a scan of it on the official livejournal - but now I can't find it. And I have no idea when they're sending out the lyric sheets -- but I hope soon. :shrug:

/Yes, I am going to piss and moan, and then bend over and TAKE IT UP THE TAIL PIPE!

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[dukeboy1986]

I have lost all respect for this band with this news post. Jesse, get your head out of your ass, er, should I say "Jesus"

[TMartin442]

What about the people that buy this album like a year from now? I doubt they'll still be sending out the lyric booklets...

those ppl can send their dollars to me and ill take care of it

[Yanksm2]

You guys are all so ridiculous. They didn't want to put the lyrics on the artwork of the album, okay. A lot of bands don't have lyrics in their booklets. Instead of not giving out any official lyrics, they're offering a lyric sheet for a whole dollar. Postage costs 39 cents. So, yeah they're raking a solid 61 cents per lyric sheet they send out, not to mention the cost to print them. So yeah, there's plenty of reasons you guys have to hate on the band, but this is really not one of them.

At least wait til somebody sees what the lyric sheet looks like before you all bitch.

[Mitch]

I know lyrics are really important, but it's not uncommon for bands to not include them at all, so to me, it doesn't seem like it would be crazy not to include them at all and not even mention a lyric sheet :shrug:

If they didn't mention the lyric booklet at all, I wouldn't think anything too bad of it.

But the fact that they obviously already have them typed up and everything but only available to those who want to pay money kind of bugs me.

[Jason Tate]

I know lyrics are really important, but it's not uncommon for bands to not include them at all, so to me, it wouldn't be weird to omit them completely and not even mention a lyric sheet :shrug:
Hmm ... well, it's uncommon for the albums I buy I guess.

And on the rare occasion they're not there - I'm usually quite irate about it.

[Mitch]

You guys are all so ridiculous. They didn't want to put the lyrics on the artwork of the album, okay. A lot of bands don't have lyrics in their booklets. Instead of not giving out any official lyrics, they're offering a lyric sheet for a whole dollar. Postage costs 39 cents. So, yeah they're raking a solid 61 cents per lyric sheet they send out, not to mention the cost to print them. So yeah, there's plenty of reasons you guys have to hate on the band, but this is really not one of them.

At least wait til somebody sees what the lyric sheet looks like before you all bitch.

Placing the lyrics in a digipak would not interfere with the artwork at all--there are openings in those sort of cases (Vheissu, DTGL, etc...)

[Jason Tate]

You guys are all so ridiculous. They didn't want to put the lyrics on the artwork of the album, okay. A lot of bands don't have lyrics in their booklets. Instead of not giving out any official lyrics, they're offering a lyric sheet for a whole dollar. Postage costs 39 cents. So, yeah they're raking a solid 61 cents per lyric sheet they send out, not to mention the cost to print them. So yeah, there's plenty of reasons you guys have to hate on the band, but this is really not one of them.

At least wait til somebody sees what the lyric sheet looks like before you all bitch.
Oh, voice of reason, how I've missed you!

Well said.

Agree with the bold.

That's more or less what I typed in the "official" thread earlier today.

[JohnDorian]

Think it's worth sending one of the dollars I've got left from holidays to America?

[nicky123]

Anyone else's Interpunk pre-order on "back-order"?

Sort of defeats the purpose of the pre-order .... :annoyed:

yeah, mine is too. i blame you tate. i took your advice and ordered it from interpunk and this is what i get???? thanks. :smackhim:

jk, but i do hate interpunk now

[dukeboy1986]

You guys are all so ridiculous. They didn't want to put the lyrics on the artwork of the album, okay. A lot of bands don't have lyrics in their booklets. Instead of not giving out any official lyrics, they're offering a lyric sheet for a whole dollar. Postage costs 39 cents. So, yeah they're raking a solid 61 cents per lyric sheet they send out, not to mention the cost to print them. So yeah, there's plenty of reasons you guys have to hate on the band, but this is really not one of them.

At least wait til somebody sees what the lyric sheet looks like before you all bitch.

It's the whole concept...If you don't want to put lyrics on the liner sheet, fine. However, you should have them available free somewhere since you paid for the CD.

[Shoes]

eh, as I said before, if you want to do something special like this, it should be included, and if you really want it to be special, make it for limited copies, or preorders only, or random copies
don't charge your fans
Exactly. Make it special because it's something for the fans, not because you want the money. Brand New seem like such dicks nowadays.

[Jason Tate]

I feel really bad for Jared Kaufman. He's waited all this time, refusing to listen to any of the new songs, and really wants the lyrics/art for his first experience.

:bluesad:

I really do feel bad for him, cause I know how he feels.

[James Johnson]

Yeah, you definitely said that better than me.

:appl: for you.

yay tate applause! haha

[Drew Beringer]

The only way I would do this if BN would donate all the money from the lyrics to a charity.

[kristee]

wait so can i just send in a dollar and get a lyric sheet? it sounds interesting...

[AShannon04]

If they didn't mention the lyric booklet at all, I wouldn't think anything too bad of it.

But the fact that they obviously already have them typed up and everything but only available to those who want to pay money kind of bugs me.

exactly.

Hmm ... well, it's uncommon for the albums I buy I guess.

And on the rare occasion they're not there - I'm usually quite irate about it.

ok, fair enough.

[Shoes]

Maybe the first 100 get a free hat and a nice keyring.

[dukeboy1986]

maybe its not brand new's fault maybe the record company and brand new is just being nice and doing this for us hmm?

With Brand New's ego? I seriously doubt it.

[Jason Tate]

maybe its not brand new's fault maybe the record company and brand new is just being nice and doing this for us hmm?
:squint:

What? The label pays more for "digipack" packaging, but not lyrics? Major label? Someone's paying for the printing of the lyrics anyhow? Doesn't add up.

:shrug:

I don't even care, I'm still ordering them because that's why I want the actual CD. The lyrics.

[Lovewaslove]

its offical, You can now start downloading music and not feel bad for it. Thank god I have this cd downloaded already I was gonna buy it as well, But not anymore.

How fucking insane is this. I guess it makes a little sence for Brand new cause they hardly make any money off of cd sales now they will make 1 dollar from everyone. Fucking Charge me 3 dollars for the lyrics and just put your cd online you wont even need a record company.

[SLADE]

This is perfect evidence to support what I've been preaching for so long.

This band waits and waits to release their album then pulls this.

Despicable on all counts.

[Mitch]

This is perfect evidence to support what I've been preaching for so long.

This band waits so long to release their album then pulls this.

Despicable on all counts.

Hahaha, you would be in this thread :-p.

[Jared Kaufman]

I cannot wait till Tuesday when I can finally listen to this. However, is this really necessary? Was a reason for this announced? If not, I think I'm going to just pay www.sing365.com a visit and keep my dollar instead.

[Drew Beringer]

Why hasn't it ever been a problem for other bands? I mean, I think I'm just more mad that I have to wait for the mail to deliver my lyrics, I just want em right away. I mean, I had no problem paying an extra 2 bucks last year for Vheissu for the 32 page booklet. I just want in the packaging.

[tofast4u0609]

its a dollar,
i've waited four years for this album
im paying it
worth it

[Jason Tate]

This is perfect evidence to support what I've been preaching for so long.

This band waits and waits to release their album then pulls this.

Despicable on all counts.
The band wasn't "waiting" to release their album. They were writing, spending time sick in hospitals, having friends pass away, living life, and discussing the future of the band. You make it sound as though they're just chilling at home with a bottle of Jack and a porno.

[Shoes]

its offical, You can now start downloading music and not feel bad for it. Thank god I have this cd downloaded already I was gonna buy it as well, But not anymore.
I'm starting to feel like that. I mean the only reason I get cds is to support the artists and for the pretty artwork and lyrics, this kinda defeats the point.

[littlefusdawg]

:squint:

What? The label pays more for "digipack" packaging, but not lyrics? Major label? Someone's paying for the printing of the lyrics anyhow? Doesn't add up.

:shrug:



maybe they had to choose digipack or lyrics lol

[Eurotrash Drock]

between this and the quotes ive read about bn talking about their new album live, im waiting for a definitive interview asking all the loaded questions we could ever want. AP.net, im lookin in your direction...

[catchmealone]

its offical, You can now start downloading music and not feel bad for it. Thank god I have this cd downloaded already I was gonna buy it as well, But not anymore.

How fucking insane is this. I guess it makes a little sence for Brand new cause they hardly make any money off of cd sales now they will make 1 dollar from everyone. Fucking Charge me 3 dollars for the lyrics and just put your cd online you wont even need a record company.


haha, no shit
I kinda feel like downloading the album, burning a ton of copies, and sending them the $1 for lyrics, and on the dollar write
"Dear Brand New,
Thanks for the lyrics. I downloaded this cd for free and will copy it for all my friends, then photocopy the lyrics as well. Enjoy your dollar. I suggest buying a McDonald's Double Cheeseburger. They don't even charge you extra for the pickles
Love
Foltzie"

[roofTOPS]

its a dollar,
i've waited four years for this album
im paying it
worth it

agreed. so all you do is send a self addressed stamped envelope and a dollar to that address?

[Shoes]

haha, no shit
I kinda feel like downloading the album, burning a ton of copies, and sending them the $1 for lyrics, and on the dollar write
"Dear Brand New,
Thanks for the lyrics. I downloaded this cd for free and will copy it for all my friends, then photocopy the lyrics as well. Enjoy your dollar. I suggest buying a McDonald's Double Cheeseburger. They don't even charge you extra for the pickles
Love
Foltzie"
Hahaha.

[ironlionOROKU]

I heard the dollar goes to the Jesse Lacey Big Head Reduction Fund...

I will still probably send it in though.

[dukeboy1986]

haha, no shit
I kinda feel like downloading the album, burning a ton of copies, and sending them the $1 for lyrics, and on the dollar write
"Dear Brand New,
Thanks for the lyrics. I downloaded this cd for free and will copy it for all my friends, then photocopy the lyrics as well. Enjoy your dollar. I suggest buying a McDonald's Double Cheeseburger. They don't even charge you extra for the pickles
Love
Foltzie"


Haha, I like this idea except I woulnd't send a dollar, the CD is terrible.

[Jason Tate]

Why hasn't it ever been a problem for other bands? I mean, I think I'm just more mad that I have to wait for the mail to deliver my lyrics, I just want em right away. I mean, I had no problem paying an extra 2 bucks last year for Vheissu for the 32 page booklet. I just want in the packaging.
The wait is my only complaint too. As I said in the official thread, I'd paypal them $3 if they'd send me a PDF with the lyrics now.

(It's only really upsetting if you compare it to what some other bands offer in their CDs ... but that's more those artists going out of their way (and above and beyond what they're expected to do) for their fans.)

[Lovewaslove]

DONT BUY THE ALBUM we all have the address everyone just buy the lyrics. If brand new wants to be dicks, then fine I am boycotting this album. And downloading the cd and sending 1 for lyrics.

[James Johnson]

I dont think this is some evil move on Brand News behalf $1 is no big deal, although the hassle to have to do all this and wait for the lyrics is definately not cool. I am pissed off that this means I probably will be unable to get a hard copy of the lyrics now being Australian.

I think what Jason was implying is probably why this took place. They put effort into making beautiful album art and didnt want to coat this in lyrics. But since they know theyre melodramatic lyric rabid fans would cause an uproar about no lyrics they probably shrugged and went 'meh we will just post the lyrics to any fans that care enough to want official lyrics' Im sure the dollar is close to cost price for sending out and printing the lyrics anyway.

[Jason Tate]

between this and the quotes ive read about bn talking about their new album live, im waiting for a definitive interview asking all the loaded questions we could ever want. AP.net, im lookin in your direction...
They're not doing interviews with those in the american press at the moment. :shrug:

They turned down the cover feature in Alt Press.

Otherwise, I wish we could -- sorry bro.

[Yanksm2]

Good Lord. I really don't understand any of you. If you want the lyrics for free, go online. They are there. If you want something the band is putting out that's, in all probability, not a Times New Roman Word document, pay a dollar to cover shipping and printing. Oh, you're going to tell me that there's no way that adds up to a WHOLE dollar. Okay, did you want them to ask for 47 cents?

For the people who are telling me you're not going to buy the CD because of this, stop lying. You weren't going to buy the CD anyway, and you're just trying to make yourself feel better for ripping off a band. I can't believe any of you people even pretend to "know" what's going on, when it's obvious you're all just hopping on the bandwagon of hate.

To sum it up, IF YOU DON'T WANT THE PRINTED LYRICS, THEY'RE NOT FORCING YOU TO PAY FOR THEM.

[Drew Beringer]

The wait is my only complaint too. As I said in the official thread, I'd paypal them $3 if they'd send me a PDF with the lyrics now.

(It's only really upsetting if you compare it to what some other bands offer in their CDs ... but that's more those artists going out of their way (and above and beyond what they're expected to do) for their fans.)

Haha, I want them right away goddammit! And they better be good, like Thrice - Vheissu good or Thursday-A City By The Light Divided good.

[phaedrus]

i think theyre just trying to sabotage their career at this point, everything about everything theyve done recently is absurd. this makes me feel better about not buying the album

[Drew Beringer]

Good Lord. I really don't understand any of you. If you want the lyrics for free, go online. They are there. If you want something the band is putting out that's, in all probability, not a Times New Roman Word document, pay a dollar to cover shipping and printing. Oh, you're going to tell me that there's no way that adds up to a WHOLE dollar. Okay, did you want them to ask for 47 cents?

For the people who are telling me you're not going to buy the CD because of this, stop lying. You weren't going to buy the CD anyway, and you're just trying to make yourself feel better for ripping off a band. I can't believe any of you people even pretend to "know" what's going on, when it's obvious you're all just hopping on the bandwagon of hate.

To sum it up, IF YOU DON'T WANT THE PRINTED LYRICS, THEY'RE NOT FORCING YOU TO PAY FOR THEM.

I want the lyrics, I don't mind paying extra (as I said when I paid the extra 2 bucks for the Vheissu 32 page booklet), my man gripe is just having to wait for it. I mean, that's all we do with this band is wait.

[James Johnson]

The wait is my only complaint too. As I said in the official thread, I'd paypal them $3 if they'd send me a PDF with the lyrics now.

(It's only really upsetting if you compare it to what some other bands offer in their CDs ... but that's more those artists going out of their way (and above and beyond what they're expected to do) for their fans.)


Yeah it is further reflection on the lack of appreciation they have for their fans. When a band like Thrice or Larry Arms goes out of their way to make something amazing like they did with their booklets it kinda shows even more clearly brand new shunning people who have supported them all the way.

[littlefusdawg]

its retirement money

[Jason Tate]

I want the lyrics, I don't mind paying extra (as I said when I paid the extra 2 bucks for the Vheissu 32 page booklet), my man gripe is just having to wait for it. I mean, that's all we do with this band is wait.
Agreed. I'm paying for it too .. I'm right there with you.

I bought that version of Vhessiu too... and then another copy later to keep in the packaging (I know, I am such a weirdo). I never found out if it's on vinyl, if it is, I want that too ... I'll have to look.

Edit: Found it, and bought it. I am a complete tool.

[Brxtt]

Is there going to be a music video for "Sowing Season" or what??

[ACA]

Is there going to be a music video for "Sowing Season" or what??

Send $3.25 to

Yeah
PO Box #939
NY, NY

[Yanksm2]

I want the lyrics, I don't mind paying extra (as I said when I paid the extra 2 bucks for the Vheissu 32 page booklet), my man gripe is just having to wait for it. I mean, that's all we do with this band is wait.

Yeah, I understand you. It's the people in this thread telling people that this a reason NOT to buy the CD that's ridiculous. Even then, I'm sure 99% accurate lyrics will be plastered all over the internet by the 21st. The lyrics sheet is just extra. Would there be as many complaints if they didn't bother to do this at all? No. Which, frankly, is hypocritical.

[StartingLine182]

Shitty

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

it might be for a good cause....gosh...stfu

[ironlionOROKU]

i just DLed the entire album in about ten minutes...support that bitches...

[Eurotrash Drock]

They're not doing interviews with those in the american press at the moment. :shrug:

They turned down the cover feature in Alt Press.

Otherwise, I wish we could -- sorry bro.

haha, yeah, i forgot about the 'no press' thing. oh well. im sure theyll answer questions in a year from now or something. no worries.

[IamTheINDUSTRY]

wait for official word before bitching

[ACA]

Agreed. I'm paying for it too .. I'm right there with you.

I bought that version of Vhessiu too... and then another copy later to keep in the packaging (I know, I am such a weirdo). I never found out if it's on vinyl, if it is, I want that too ... I'll have to look.

Edit: Found it, and bought it. I am a complete tool.

I want the Dustin packaging now.. if it gets simultaneously released on vinyl, I want THAT.

-ACA

[Jason Tate]

I want the Dustin packaging now.. if it gets simultaneously released on vinyl, I want THAT.

-ACA
Me too.

/I am the biggest fan boy in the world.

[catchmealone]

All's I gots is a $20, think they'd send me change?

[Jason Tate]

wait for official word before bitching
Technically, the official word is this ... it's in the CD. :shrug:

No?

[James Johnson]

Agreed. I'm paying for it too .. I'm right there with you.

I bought that version of Vhessiu too... and then another copy later to keep in the packaging (I know, I am such a weirdo). I never found out if it's on vinyl, if it is, I want that too ... I'll have to look.

Edit: Found it, and bought it. I am a complete tool.

I do this only with the albums I really love.

I have a 2 vinyl copies of Jawbreakers Dear You (one for the wall and listening, one sealed and safe) and the CD for listening.

[Drew Beringer]

Agreed. I'm paying for it too .. I'm right there with you.

I bought that version of Vhessiu too... and then another copy later to keep in the packaging (I know, I am such a weirdo). I never found out if it's on vinyl, if it is, I want that too ... I'll have to look.

Edit: Found it, and bought it. I am a complete tool.

Nice, I love everything about Vheissu, I bet it sounds great on vinyl, even though I'm sure you'll frame it.

[James Johnson]

I really need to listen to Vheissu more, I really really liked it but never loved it. Maybe buying the deluxe album version will fix this?

[KarolaBloch]

What a fucking joke. Brand New is fucking retarded for doing that. What a dick move.

[Eurotrash Drock]

hahah, Tate, you should incorporate a new feature to the site - chatrooms for brand new-related topics so the drama is instantaneous and people dont have to wait for others to respond & post

[Lovewaslove]

Send $3.25 to

Yeah
PO Box #939
NY, NY

haha thats hillarious Anyone post this and join m boycott,

Apparently, the new album does not come with lyrics. Instead, the band asks for a $1 donation to be sent to the following address and a lyric sheet of some kind will be sent to you.

Brand New
PO Box #2619
NY, NY 10108

In light of this, I am starting a boycot on this album, Do not buy this album!!!! The only reason I still buy music is so I can sit down with the cd and listen to it in whole and read the lyrics. This is the lamest thing I have ever heard. Please Re post this. Download the cd off of lime wire or whatever. And send the band 1 dollar for the lyrics. Fine you want one dollar. You are going to get 1 dollar. That is it. It says its a donation, Where is the money going?? record label? band? charity, If not a charity then it is not a donation it is a profit!

[adelphi_rocks]

Why didn't they just include the lyrics in a separate booklet like Fear Before The March Of Flames did?

[mpw]

I dunno, I buy albums for the lyrics. That's the only reason I still buy music: For the official lyrics.

I also enjoy being able to spend my first moments with a CD, on my bed, reading said lyrics and listening to the album I just purchased.

exactly.

[Drew Beringer]

Why didn't they just include the lyrics in a separate booklet like Fear Before The March Of Flames did?

Cause that makes sense?

[Yanksm2]

Oh, voice of reason, how I've missed you!

Well said.

Agree with the bold.

That's more or less what I typed in the "official" thread earlier today.


Haha. I really just don't understand how people can blindly say things just because everybody else is. If this was a different band, and the first few posts were, "Wow, that's pretty cool that they're going to go through the trouble to print and mail lyric sheets to us, since they're not in the case," I feel like everyone would have hopped on that bandwagon, regardless of what they really felt. Mob mentality, I guess.

[ACA]

Who the fuck knows why they're doing this.

Perhaps it's for charity, perhaps it's to get the CD out on time and not delay it any more, perhaps it's because they want to be dicks, perhaps it's because this lyrics sheet will be amazing, perhaps it's because they're greedy bastards, perhaps it's a legal issue.. who the fuck knows.

We'll know soon enough, and until then.. calm down my friends.

-ACA

[KillMeTheKing26]

i dunno. i was supposed to get my preorder, but now its on backorder.

so i might listen to the leak.

[werealldudes19]

this doesnt surprise me,,, but ill be checking. i pre-ordered it

[phaedrus]

Me too.

/I am the biggest fan boy in the world.
The term fan boy does not apply to thrice fans in a post-vhiessu era. We're just called good music fans now

[phaedrus]

Who the fuck knows why they're doing this.

Perhaps it's for charity, perhaps it's to get the CD out on time and not delay it any more, perhaps it's because they want to be dicks, perhaps it's because this lyrics sheet will be amazing, perhaps it's because they're greedy bastards, perhaps it's a legal issue.. who the fuck knows.

We'll know soon enough, and until then.. calm down my friends.

-ACA
don't you think they would have mentioned that if there a good reason for it?

[JunkBondTrader]

......has anyone stopped to think that maybe this PO Box isnt theirs....but maybe a friends who is in a tough spot, and they are doing this to help them out...or maybe an unknowing charity.....i dont know, but i feel like there is a reason behind this, and i doubt its personal gain.

[Jared Kaufman]

If it's for charity, it should state the organization name and cause with the request to send in the donation. In all of Thrice's album jackets, you know exactly where money is being sent and for what purpose.

ilovethriceandustinkensruesomuch.

[Low Level Owl]

yeah, I bet brand new sat down one day and thought it would be funny to be dicks to everyone who was going to buy their cd.

come on guys, lighten up. it's not the end of the world.

[JunkBondTrader]

don't you think they would have mentioned that if there a good reason for it?
do you remember what band we are taking about? they keep alot of shit in the dark. so no im not surprised at all by this.

[Jenn23]

hahah, Tate, you should incorporate a new feature to the site - chatrooms for brand new-related topics so the drama is instantaneous and people dont have to wait for others to respond & post

He should charge a dollar to each person who posts in a Brand New thread. He'd either be filthy rich or these threads would be way less annoying.


Anyway... I don't understand what the big deal is. It's a dollar. If you don't want to pay it, then don't. If you want to make sure you're not getting ripped off, then wait to see what the people who do pay get in return. If you by a CD at a show, it's no big deal to tip a dollar. If you were buying a poster, it would cost more than a dollar. I'm willing to bet they'll make this small "donation" worth your time and money.

I'm surprised they aren't asking for a receipt/proof of purchase with the dollar. If you sent a five dollar bill, would you get five lyrics sheets? If this happens to be a limited time offer (or limited quantity), I could see these going for a lot more than a dollar on ebay someday.

I'm still waiting to hear how Coca-Cola is. Where are all the people who received their pre-orders already? Anyone?

[ConsciousEntity]

Unless the lyrics come in a nice booklet or something I don't see any reason to go through the postal service to get lyrics that are online.

[KidLightning]

i hope they use all the money from this to buy pizza for everyone who comes to the shows on their next tour

[ACA]

Unless the lyrics come in a nice booklet or something I don't see any reason to go through the postal service to get lyrics that are online.

Brand New is in cahoots with the US Government, obviously.

They're bringing back the snail mail (since e-mail is killing the USPS badly).......for when you control the mail.....you control......information.

-ACA

[James Johnson]

Who the fuck knows why they're doing this.

Perhaps it's for charity, perhaps it's to get the CD out on time and not delay it any more, perhaps it's because they want to be dicks, perhaps it's because this lyrics sheet will be amazing, perhaps it's because they're greedy bastards, perhaps it's a legal issue.. who the fuck knows.

We'll know soon enough, and until then.. calm down my friends.

-ACA


Im not your friend! Im just a man who doesnt know how the lyrics feel.

Stupid $1.

[hype]

Brand New is in cahoots with the US Government, obviously.

They're bringing back the snail mail (since e-mail is killing the USPS badly).......for when you control the mail.....you control......information.

-ACA

You solved the puzzle, show him what he wins..!!

[Chemical Love]

Thats fucking gay.

[fallafelraffle]

um.. $1 probably covers postage, materials and labor involved in sending out 10,000+ letters. do you people really think this is for profit?

[phaedrus]

do you remember what band we are taking about? they keep alot of shit in the dark. so no im not surprised at all by this.
but charity isn't really something anyone keeps in the dark. i guess you could be right, but hiding the fact that you're giving money to a charity and making people think you're greedy is just about the weirdest thing i've ever heard of

[catchmealone]

um.. $1 probably covers postage, materials and labor involved in sending out 10,000+ letters. do you people really think this is for profit?
It's not about profit/not profit
It's not necessary

[preppyak]

Brand New is in cahoots with the US Government, obviously.

They're bringing back the snail mail (since e-mail is killing the USPS badly).......for when you control the mail.....you control......information.

-ACA
hahaha...well played

[Yanksm2]

It's not about profit/not profit
It's not necessary


Then don't send in for it. End of story.

[thedood]

Im with tate here...the first couple hours spent listening to the album in headphones while reading the lyrics is what it's all about.

[catchmealone]

Then don't send in for it. End of story.
Never once did I say I would

edit:except for when I said I would photo copy it for all my friends, but I was joking.

[moore182]

Completely off topic, but I was just listening to this song.

In "Some Will Seek Forgiveness" by Underoath, is that Aaron or Copeland's singer?
Sounds a hell of a lot like Copeland's singer.

[3milesdown]

Who the fuck knows why they're doing this.

Perhaps it's for charity, perhaps it's to get the CD out on time and not delay it any more, perhaps it's because they want to be dicks, perhaps it's because this lyrics sheet will be amazing, perhaps it's because they're greedy bastards, perhaps it's a legal issue.. who the fuck knows.

We'll know soon enough, and until then.. calm down my friends.

-ACA

exactly what i was thinking...
i can understand why some people are pissed, but in the end it could be brand new doing something for the fans...

[OveriseFan]

You ever think that maybe they couldn't get the lyrics printed for some reason, and that Brand New are being good to their fans and helping them get the lyrics?

Seriously: lots of albums don't have the lyrics in them (My one complaint with Pompeii's album. :-()

Get over it, maybe they're being good to you, and not just going to leave you with nothing.

[catchmealone]

Completely off topic, but I was just listening to this song.

In "Some Will Seek Forgiveness" by Underoath, is that Aaron or Copeland's singer?
Sounds a hell of a lot like Copeland's singer.
yes it is

[Hawt]

im sending them a roll of pennies, this idea is garbage

I'm not even going to bother with the rolls of pennies. I'm just going to put 100 individual pennies in a ziploc bag.

It's only a matter of time before someone sends in their dollar and scans the lyrics sheet anyways. Then someone will correct all the lyrics on plyrics and bam, you got your correct lyrics.

[moore182]

yes it is

thanks!;-)
Except, yes it is Copeland's singer?
haha.

[phaedrus]

Completely off topic, but I was just listening to this song.

In "Some Will Seek Forgiveness" by Underoath, is that Aaron or Copeland's singer?
Sounds a hell of a lot like Copeland's singer.
haha what made you think of that? and yes it is.

[phaedrus]

thanks!;-)
Except, yes it is Copeland's singer?
haha.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5018071512282995216 &q=copeland

[pricklypete79]

Does anyone think that perhaps the band does this for a couple of reasons. First being that they don't want to be big, thus they strive to alienate everyone but their "diehard" fans, who will pay the dollar without any qualms. As everyone here mentions, judging by the lack of cognitive skills in a lot of their teenie bopper fans, it's understandable. Number two being that perhaps next week when the actual CD comes out, they'll announce something on the street team to justify this. Or maybe they've gone crazy, who knows?

[SaoFoldSurvive]

I'm not even going to bother with the rolls of pennies. I'm just going to put 100 individual pennies in a ziploc bag.
haha.
good idea. this is stupid.
wouldnt it be better to just charge an extra dollar on the cd??? rediculous.

[moore182]

haha what made you think of that? and yes it is.

Cause, I was listening to that song while watching this thread a minute ago...

[letsgetraccoon]

i agree that its a little much to be asking for a dollar for lyrics but ill pay that dollar. i've been waiting for this record for so long, that a dollar is worth it

[Jason Tate]

Im not your friend! Im just a man who doesnt know how the lyrics feel.

Stupid $1.
:goodpost:

[moore182]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5018071512282995216 &q=copeland

Haha...alright!
Thanks!






Proceed with Brand New talk...

[catchmealone]

thanks!;-)
Except, yes it is Copeland's singer?
haha.
I'm an idiot. It's Aaron Marsh of Copeland

[Jason Tate]

You ever think that maybe they couldn't get the lyrics printed for some reason, and that Brand New are being good to their fans and helping them get the lyrics?

Seriously: lots of albums don't have the lyrics in them (My one complaint with Pompeii's album. :-()

Get over it, maybe they're being good to you, and not just going to leave you with nothing.
They can't print the lyrics - but they can print the "send in the $" message?

Seems like a stretch to me.

:shrug:

I'm sold on the "not wanting to ruin the artwork" thing (and the track name changes are kinda weird). But I think a seperate booklet coulda been included with the release. That's me being selfish (or maybe expecting the industry standard) and wanting the lyrics right a way though. Cause that's how I listen/experience an album.

[James Johnson]

:goodpost:

I admit I was bummed when it got no response haha.

Now to search out this new 2nd FOB track...

[Say Hello 87]

Anyone else's Interpunk pre-order on "back-order"?

Sort of defeats the purpose of the pre-order .... :annoyed:


hahahaah, sooo true...im happy though, i got my e-mail from merchdirect.com a few days ago and ill be getting TDAGARIM tomorrow!!!!!! woo...4 days before release date..im stoked.

[IAPAI]

They can't print the lyrics - but they can print the "send in the $" message?

Seems like a stretch to me.

:shrug:

I'm sold on the "not wanting to ruin the artwork" thing (and the track name changes are kinda weird). But I think a seperate booklet coulda been included with the release. That's me being selfish (or maybe expecting the industry standard) and wanting the lyrics right a way though. Cause that's how I listen/experience an album.

track name changes?

[Jason Tate]

I admit I was bummed when it got no response haha.

Now to search out this new 2nd FOB track...
:eyebrow: (http://www.sendspace.com/file/rqtqyz)

People are posting it all over our forums.

KROQ played it.

[Jenn23]

You ever think that maybe they couldn't get the lyrics printed for some reason, and that Brand New are being good to their fans and helping them get the lyrics?

Seriously: lots of albums don't have the lyrics in them (My one complaint with Pompeii's album. :-()

Get over it, maybe they're being good to you, and not just going to leave you with nothing.

Brand New is damned if they do and damned if they don't. If there were no lyrics with the CD and they didn't offer a way for the official lyrics to get out, then people would still bitch. They are making it an OPTION for fans to purchase a little something extra. Kind of like when a CD is reissued and the diehard fans pay for it again to get new artwork, bonus songs, etc.

People who are claiming to boycott the album could probably buy it on Tuesday for around $10.00 anyway. Even with the extra dollar, that's a lot less than what the pre-order people paid, so I don't know what there is to complain about really.

[IAPAI]

:eyebrow: (http://www.sendspace.com/file/rqtqyz)

oh how I've missed these days :)

[Jason Tate]

track name changes?
Check the official thread.

[Hawt]

Just read this in the forum in their street team site.

"So, it's confirmed that there is no lyric booklet for the new album. Jesse says they are thinking about making you send in a buck for a photo-copied booklet of the lyrics in his handwriting."

Not sure how accurate it is, but that would be kind of cool.

[James Johnson]

:eyebrow: (http://www.sendspace.com/file/rqtqyz)

Hahaha sorry?

[Jason Tate]

Brand New is damned if they do and damned if they don't. If there were no lyrics with the CD and they didn't offer a way for the official lyrics to get out, then people would still bitch. They are making it an OPTION for fans to purchase a little something extra. Kind of like when a CD is reissued and the diehard fans pay for it again to get new artwork, bonus songs, etc.

People who are claiming to boycott the album could probably buy it on Tuesday for around $10.00 anyway. Even with the extra dollar, that's a lot less than what the pre-order people paid, so I don't know what there is to complain about really.
That sounds awfully apologetic and takes a big leap in logic for me. But, whatever. I don't even care ... I just think making excuses that seem "out there" is worse than just saying, "eh, whatever" and buying the damn lyrics.

[Jason Tate]

Hahaha sorry?
Hahaha. It's a God damn arms race.

[phaedrus]

ap.net 1 -
american grammys or whatever - 0

[stevecrumb]

i would imagine it's them realizing the impact of the internet when it comes to music sales. people are going to burn this stuff no matter what. when they burn it, the only thing they won't have is the cd book (which is obviously important or else there wouldn't be 14 pages of people saying it is). what this does is give the people who are screwing them out of money the opportunity to have the lyric sheet, in turn letting them make a dollar (which is more than what they would've made from a whole cd sale) that doesn't go through their record company but straight to their pockets. i think it's smart.

[phaedrus]

dude this songs kicks ass, im pretty happy with this new direction right now. way to prove me wrong fall out boy

[Jason Tate]

i would imagine it's them realizing the impact of the internet when it comes to music sales. people are going to burn this stuff no matter what. when they burn it, the only thing they won't have is the cd book (which is obviously important or else there wouldn't be 14 pages of people saying it is). what this does is give the people who are screwing them out of money the opportunity to have the lyric sheet, in turn letting them make a dollar (which is more than what they would've made from a whole cd sale) that doesn't go through their record company but straight to their pockets. i think it's smart.
Except you miss the key fact: You could also include it in the album booklet; thereby not "punishing " those that buy the album.

[ilovebrandnew]

oh how I've missed these days :)


Thank you, I didn't notice till you posted haha.

[kennethagee]

best cd of the year by far

[Jason Tate]

best cd of the year by far
Least you let it set in for a while before making that statement.

Personally, I'm glad I own: Morrissey, Rise Against, The Format, Rocky V, Joshua Radin, and quite a few others though, cause it makes my decision a whole lot harder. Plus it means I've loved such a variety of music enough this year that there is no clear cut "by far" winner.

[atticusfinch]

i really think it's not worth getting upset about. Kinda lame, but I'll still pay the dollar to get the lyrics.

[IAPAI]

ap.net 1 -
american grammys or whatever - 0

zing

[Jason Tate]

i really think it's not worth getting upset about. Kinda lame, but I'll still pay the dollar to get the lyrics.
We all will.

That's what's so funny.

[James Johnson]

Least you let it set in for a while before making that statement.

Personally, I'm glad I own: Morrissey, Rise Against, The Format, Rocky V, Joshua Radin, and quite a few others though, cause it makes my decision a whole lot harder. Plus it means I've loved such a variety of music enough this year that there is no clear cut "by far" winner.

This is how I feel too. Although I never did like The Format even though I tried. But Morrissey releasing an album always makes the year significant for music.

[ByelineCole]

250 posts in a couple hours? is this really that big of a deal. the band is making like 20 cents IF that off each 'lyric' sheet they send out

[ripper4]

unreal

[atticusfinch]

here's an obvious question: for you lucky few who now have the album, have you rewound it from track 1 yet?

[tiff_taff]

That's stupid. $1 for lyrics. I know it's only a dollar, but that's kind of disappointing.

[Juturna25]

if anyone has a mac go get sing that itune for your widgets bar, greatest invention evAr. when i go for the lyrics on the new album it comes up and is pretty accurate with the exception of a few songs.

[brandonrocks]

why not just raise the price of the album by a dollar? since thats what they seem to be doing anyway.

[basementsong]

wah my stuff only got sent out yesterday.

[abrandnewused]

You are all retarted.

Brand New makes NO money off of this, it only covers shipping. It's probably because the lyrics sheet was too big/cool to package in the small CD case.