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captainhampton
11/22/06, 09:55 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38213

old article. anyone care to respond?

cal1082
11/22/06, 10:54 PM
I have never put much stock in worldnetdaily but it will be interesting to learn 10's of years from now what happen with there program and the missing materials documented by the UN. It will take years for them to go through the tens of thousands of papers that have been recovered.

x togepi x
11/23/06, 01:57 AM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38213

old article. anyone care to respond?

do you read normal newspapers or is it all conservative stuff?

selftitled85
11/23/06, 07:13 AM
if it was true...george bush would have played this card long ago.

but it is weird that all of iraqs wmds just disappeared and that some documents are missing.

selftitled85
11/23/06, 07:17 AM
wow this publication is hardcore conservative.

Love As Arson
11/23/06, 07:55 AM
Much of the weaponry found dates back to a time when Iraq was an ally.

cal1082
11/23/06, 09:37 AM
if it was true...george bush would have played this card long ago.

but it is weird that all of iraqs wmds just disappeared and that some documents are missing.

That's the part everyone has seem to forgotten (or not care about). You still have a lot of previously documented materials, gases, and other weapons that have simply just dissapeared and that's a scary thought.

They've found tons and tons of papers but it'll take a long time to get through them all.

captainhampton
11/23/06, 09:46 AM
do you read normal newspapers or is it all conservative stuff?

actually never read this paper before, just found the link. it's not ok for me to read it since it may have a conservative bias? you're right i'll read a "normal" newspaper like the New York Times.

anyways, after reading the article I was suprised. if this info were true why haven't we heard more about it? this article was from 2004. still, all we seem to hear is Bush Lied and there were no WMD's and I think the article shows that there is a lot more to it than that.

Love As Arson
11/23/06, 10:38 AM
Bush said he had a nuclear weapon and we knew where they were. That has since proven to be false.

Lueda Alia
11/23/06, 10:40 AM
Bush said he had a nuclear weapon and we knew where they were. That has since proven to be false.
Exactly.

captainhampton
11/23/06, 11:00 AM
Bush said he had a nuclear weapon and we knew where they were. That has since proven to be false.

please find me that quote where he said he knew exactly where they were? and where he said he had a nuclear weapon?

so all that stuff we found, that was nothing right?

Love As Arson
11/23/06, 11:14 AM
please find me that quote where he said he knew exactly where they were? and where he said he had a nuclear weapon?

Dick Cheney
Speech to VFW National Convention
August 26, 2002

Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.

Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
January 9, 2003

We know for a fact that there are weapons there.

George W. Bush
Address to the Nation
March 17, 2003

Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.

Donald Rumsfeld
ABC Interview
March 30, 2003

We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

We believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." -- Vice President Cheney on March 16, 2003 on "Meet the Press."




so all that stuff we found, that was nothing right?
They were weapons, but they're pre-1991, and were likely given to him by the US.

captainhampton
11/23/06, 11:29 AM
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

this quote by Bush is 100 percent accurate.

Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
January 9, 2003

We know for a fact that there are weapons there.

that one is true.

read the article, not all the weapons found were pre 1991.

Love As Arson
11/23/06, 12:01 PM
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

this quote by Bush is 100 percent accurate.

Ari Fleischer
Press Briefing
January 9, 2003

We know for a fact that there are weapons there.

that one is true.
That is the only one that is true? One out of five isn't bad, I suppose. And yes, there are weapons there, but they're mostly US military weapons.



read the article, not all the weapons found were pre 1991.
Tommy Franks has admitted that the trailers were not used for biological weaponry. It is generally agreed upon that due to sanctions Saddam had no capability to deliver biological weapons. Furthermore, repeated US bombings and such during Clinton's regime made progress impossible for the most part. As for the rest of the evidence, I would say that much of what it means is only proven if one desires to take a logical leap. So, for example, a warehouse filled with plant chemicals could be used for chemical weapons

Fedaykin
11/23/06, 03:04 PM
That is the only one that is true? One out of five isn't bad, I suppose. And yes, there are weapons there, but they're mostly US military weapons.



Tommy Franks has admitted that the trailers were not used for biological weaponry. It is generally agreed upon that due to sanctions Saddam had no capability to deliver biological weapons. Furthermore, repeated US bombings and such during Clinton's regime made progress impossible for the most part. As for the rest of the evidence, I would say that much of what it means is only proven if one desires to take a logical leap. So, for example, a warehouse filled with plant chemicals could be used for chemical weapons
Dude, you left out my favorite WMD quote though, from Ms. Condi Rice:

"Last September 8, I interviewed President Bush's National Security Adviser, Dr. Condoleezza Rice. I was pressing her on Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's nuclear capabilities.
"We know that he has the infrastructure, nuclear scientists to make a nuclear weapon," she told me. "And we know that when the inspectors assessed this after the Gulf War, he was far, far closer to a crude nuclear device than anybody thought -- maybe six months from a crude nuclear device."
Dr. Rice then said something that was ominous and made headlines around the world.
"The problem here is that there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons. But we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/10/wbr.smoking.gun/

x togepi x
11/23/06, 04:08 PM
actually never read this paper before, just found the link. it's not ok for me to read it since it may have a conservative bias? you're right i'll read a "normal" newspaper like the New York Times.

anyways, after reading the article I was suprised. if this info were true why haven't we heard more about it? this article was from 2004. still, all we seem to hear is Bush Lied and there were no WMD's and I think the article shows that there is a lot more to it than that.

the article was debunked right after it came out. i don't really remember how since it was 2 years ago, but i specifically remember reading the article you posted from a conservative friend and then doing some more research.

I never said it's wrong for you to read conservative newspapers...but it seems like that's the only thing you read considering every link i've ever seen you post is from an extremely biased right wing newspaper/blog, hence me asking "do you only read conservative newspapers?".

i mean, if you want, I could start posting things out of the socialist newspapers I read sometimes and with titles like I DARE SOMEONE TO DEFEND RUPERT MURDOCH/GEORGE BUSH/THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, but i'm not going to complain when someone's like "dude, you're quoting a bunch of pinkos."