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youkwalks
12/07/06, 10:34 AM
Lately it seems that some debates/arguments on this site have gone in circles and its the same sides every time. We have also been bickering with each other more and more and some have even become disgruntled with administration.
so I ask, should we try and expand this forum, bringing in more kids from the outside or other forums on ap...or, should we try to make our own message board and really promote it to get new blood in the mix?
Either way, I think new posters would be a healthy change for our sports forum.
I dont know, I was just thinking about this. What do you guys think?
livethesounds
12/07/06, 10:36 AM
Lately it seems that some debates/arguments on this site have gone in circles and its the same sides every time. We have also been bickering with each other more and more and some have even become disgruntled with administration.
so I ask, should we try and expand this forum, bringing in more kids from the outside or other forums on ap...or, should we try to make our own message board and really promote it to get new blood in the mix?
Either way, I think new posters would be a healthy change for our sports forum.
I dont know, I was just thinking about this. What do you guys think?
Well the only people i could think of are the posters from my teams forum sites. so unless you want a lot more astros, titans, mavericks & stars fans in here haha.
jusscali
12/07/06, 10:37 AM
Lately it seems that some debates/arguments on this site have gone in circles and its the same sides every time. We have also been bickering with each other more and more and some have even become disgruntled with administration.
so I ask, should we try and expand this forum, bringing in more kids from the outside or other forums on ap...or, should we try to make our own message board and really promote it to get new blood in the mix?
Either way, I think new posters would be a healthy change for our sports forum.
I dont know, I was just thinking about this. What do you guys think?
young blood will make things worse...greater divide, more drama, more bullshit...and far more annoying. sure you'll have some good kiddies, but the bad apples will spoil the site for a period of transition time.
thats just my take
livethesounds
12/07/06, 10:37 AM
but yea i kind of agree, things have been...diffrent in here latley.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 10:41 AM
young blood will make things worse...greater divide, more drama, more bullshit...and far more annoying. sure you'll have some good kiddies, but the bad apples will spoil the site for a period of transition time.
thats just my take
not if we make our own message board. I think we have tapped all our resources on this site, but moving to bring in new blood from outside sources could lite a spark here.
and it doesn't matter where they come from. As long as that person can engage in intelligent and rational sports debates (and is not a homer), it should be fine.
and I think this could start with Still_life. As much as he sucks, he does know a little bit about football.
thejetstolehome
12/07/06, 10:44 AM
bringing in new people would definitely help.
Yankees' #1 Fan
12/07/06, 10:45 AM
it would help if they werent idiots.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 10:46 AM
i like posting here though. i think we just need to bring in some newbies. ive been going to this site for news long before i even registerd here, so its kind of a daily fix for me anyway.
ForlrnPerplxity
12/07/06, 10:47 AM
I doubt you'd get a ton of people to stay on here from outside, since the site is mostly about music, ya know?
I like the idea about a new message board. I could set one up and if it gets big enough, we could probably maintain it.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 10:49 AM
I think a new board is the best way also. we can call it absolutesports or something. But with a new site dedicated to sports discussion, we could attract alot more people.
thejetstolehome
12/07/06, 10:51 AM
I think a new board is the best way also. we can call it absolutesports or something. But with a new site dedicated to sports discussion, we could attract alot more people.
that'd be a great idea. if i new anything about web design, i'd be all over it.
imirish06
12/07/06, 10:52 AM
I feel as if we're a band of brothers that hate each other but like each other at the same time.
IF there must be newbies... there will be a 3 week hazing ritual.
I will not settle for anything less
youkwalks
12/07/06, 10:53 AM
thats my problem too
but I think there are places like ezboard.com or something where its relatively easy to set it up. The only problem with that is they can run slowly sometimes.
we can even add to this and make a new website, not just message board, bases solely on sports.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 10:54 AM
I feel as if we're a band of brothers that hate each other but like each other at the same time.
IF there must be newbies... there will be a 3 week hazing ritual.
I will not settle for anything less
hahah I think hazing is part of the problem. Some new kid says one stupid thing and we jump on him.
thejetstolehome
12/07/06, 10:54 AM
thats my problem too
but I think there are places like ezboard.com or something where its relatively easy to set it up. The only problem with that is they can run slowly sometimes.
we can even add to this and make a new website, not just message board, bases solely on sports.
that'd be cool.
and i don't know about anyone else but i'd be willing to write articles and what not for it as much as possible.
thejetstolehome
12/07/06, 10:55 AM
hahah I think hazing is part of the problem. Some new kid says one stupid thing and we jump on him.
haha yea and then he never comes back 'cause his ass hurts too much from the new asshole.
imirish06
12/07/06, 10:56 AM
hahah I think hazing is part of the problem. Some new kid says one stupid thing and we jump on him.
I was just being sarcastic. Plus I didn't mean hazing as just jumping all over someone. I mean hazing as in making them wear womens underwear while dancing to "Dude looks like a lady" in Mall
ForlrnPerplxity
12/07/06, 10:58 AM
that'd be cool.
and i don't know about anyone else but i'd be willing to write articles and what not for it as much as possible.
Yeah, that'd be cool. We could possibly pick a person for each team to possibly just put up rumors, etc.
We just need a person who is good at maintaining websites.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 10:58 AM
that'd be cool.
and i don't know about anyone else but i'd be willing to write articles and what not for it as much as possible.
me too, ive got more time on my hands now that i dont work 2 jobs, so i would be happy to write articles, with good grammar of course.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 10:58 AM
I was just being sarcastic. Plus I didn't mean hazing as just jumping all over someone. I mean hazing as in making them wear womens underwear while dancing to "Dude looks like a lady" in Mall
oh....that may be an idea
thejetstolehome
12/07/06, 10:58 AM
Yeah, that'd be cool. We could possibly pick a person for each team to possibly just put up rumors, etc.
We just need a person who is good at maintaining websites.
yea, that's the hard part. and sadly, most of us are lazy as fuck haha.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 10:59 AM
Yeah, that'd be cool. We could possibly pick a person for each team to possibly just put up rumors, etc.
We just need a person who is good at maintaining websites.
yea...gotta be someone here that does that, i know really the bare minimum about it right now, but im gonna be trained on it really soon...so maybe i can help with that eventually.
ForlrnPerplxity
12/07/06, 11:01 AM
yea, that's the hard part. and sadly, most of us are lazy as fuck haha.
haha that's the bad thing is that people would become lazy. but we could start out with a message board, and just go from there.
ForlrnPerplxity
12/07/06, 11:01 AM
yea...gotta be someone here that does that, i know really the bare minimum about it right now, but im gonna be trained on it really soon...so maybe i can help with that eventually.
i could go create a message board right now that could last a month or so. actually, anybody could, so we could just start from there.
LeftWideOpen
12/07/06, 11:29 AM
I think a new board is the best way also. we can call it absolutesports or something. But with a new site dedicated to sports discussion, we could attract alot more people.
sounds like a great idea. but only if you promise to let me talk about the NFL, even if I don't like Jay Cutler as the starter in Denver right now.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 11:37 AM
sounds like a great idea. but only if you promise to let me talk about the NFL, even if I don't like Jay Cutler as the starter in Denver right now.
cmon now...thats asking a little much dont you think?
Yankees' #1 Fan
12/07/06, 11:38 AM
i think robertacarlson would have enjoyed that womens underwear thing a little too much.
thejetstolehome
12/07/06, 11:39 AM
cmon now...thats asking a little much dont you think?
yea, for real.
don't push it, man.
i'd definately be down to write some baseball articles, i could certainly expand upon my rants that i sometimes have
thejetstolehome
12/07/06, 11:52 AM
me too, ive got more time on my hands now that i dont work 2 jobs, so i would be happy to write articles, with good grammar of course.
yea--i'd love to write stuff about baseball no matter where i'm writing it. i'll be able to do it much more easily in the summer when i'm not at school and my job is only during the day.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 11:54 AM
Doug, I think if you expanded on your Seattle idea to the whole league, that would be an interesing article.
on top of that, you could look at the teams who had great success in the late 90's, early 2000's and write an article about how they failed to maintain.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 11:54 AM
yea--i'd love to write stuff about baseball no matter where i'm writing it. i'll be able to do it much more easily in the summer when i'm not at school and my job is only during the day.
id probably do most of my stuff on baseketball/football. and leave my baseball writing on the astros.
LeftWideOpen
12/07/06, 11:54 AM
that'd be cool.
and i don't know about anyone else but i'd be willing to write articles and what not for it as much as possible.
yeah, i know we tried that newsletter a while back and that failed ..but i think thats because it was kind of formal and there were deadlines and stuff.
if we just had like an articles section where people could post things whenever ..that might be more effective.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 11:55 AM
yeah, i know we tried that newsletter a while back and that failed ..but i think thats because it was kind of formal and there were deadlines and stuff.
if we just had like an articles section where people could post things whenever ..that might be more effective.
yea, thats a good idea.
thejetstolehome
12/07/06, 11:56 AM
id probably do most of my stuff on baseketball/football. and leave my baseball writing on the astros.
i'd do mostly yankees stuff but i could write about anything in baseball if need be.
yeah, i know we tried that newsletter a while back and that failed ..but i think thats because it was kind of formal and there were deadlines and stuff.
if we just had like an articles section where people could post things whenever ..that might be more effective.
yea that'd be very cool.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 11:56 AM
sounds like a great idea. but only if you promise to let me talk about the NFL, even if I don't like Jay Cutler as the starter in Denver right now.
Thats another thing. we would have to decide who are mods, but I think its important to let people say what they want to say. Now, we cant have name calling just because that doesn't help discussion, but no biased mods would be a criteria.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 11:58 AM
ok so now that some people seem to be interested, where do we go from here? I dont know a thing about making a message board or website.....so?
livethesounds
12/07/06, 11:58 AM
Thats another thing. we would have to decide who are mods, but I think its important to let people say what they want to say. Now, we cant have name calling just because that doesn't help discussion, but no biased mods would be a criteria.
well no tyrannical mods...lets say. im baised and i wouldnt ban somebody for saying vince young was gonna suck as a pro, thats their opinion, it has nothing to do with if he will or not.
LeftWideOpen
12/07/06, 11:59 AM
Thats another thing. we would have to decide who are mods, but I think its important to let people say what they want to say. Now, we cant have name calling just because that doesn't help discussion, but no biased mods would be a criteria.
i could handle being a mod i think.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 12:06 PM
ok one mod down.
but who knows how and can make a website?
ForlrnPerplxity
12/07/06, 12:07 PM
I think the mods should be some people on here that we trust. Like once we pick up a message board, we can all decide together.
thejetstolehome
12/07/06, 12:10 PM
i think i'm impartial enough to mod. :shrug:
ForlrnPerplxity
12/07/06, 12:11 PM
Yeah, I think I could handle being a mod as well.
mikeford
12/07/06, 12:11 PM
ezboard sux, real bad.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 12:12 PM
i would say leftwideopen and thejetstolehome are trusted and respected posters here...so id vote for both of them. we dont need that many do we?
LeftWideOpen
12/07/06, 12:13 PM
as far as starting up a website goes, i have no idea.
someone here must lol.
Yankees' #1 Fan
12/07/06, 12:14 PM
i could not be a mod.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 12:15 PM
i could not be a mod.
haha we all agree
ForlrnPerplxity
12/07/06, 12:18 PM
i would say leftwideopen and thejetstolehome are trusted and respected posters here...so id vote for both of them. we dont need that many do we?
Thanks a lot :efu:
justkidding
livethesounds
12/07/06, 12:21 PM
Thanks a lot :efu:
justkidding
haha i didnt see your post, but you would be a good one too. how many do we need?
youkwalks
12/07/06, 12:23 PM
ezboard sux, real bad.
do you know any others?
mikeford
12/07/06, 12:30 PM
nah, if youre gonna do this you need to find someone who knows shit about doing a php board (like this one)
youkwalks
12/07/06, 12:33 PM
nah, if youre gonna do this you need to find someone who knows shit about doing a php board (like this one)
anyone?
Chriz2z
12/07/06, 12:34 PM
nah, if youre gonna do this you need to find someone who knows shit about doing a php board (like this one)
A board like this costs some serious dollar bills.
I'm game for anything.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 12:37 PM
What do other boards use?
ForlrnPerplxity
12/07/06, 12:46 PM
vbulletin works pretty well. I know it costs at some point, but you can advertise on the site if you get enough views to help keep it going. Eventually, I'm sure people would have to donate money.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 12:47 PM
vbulletin works pretty well. I know it costs at some point, but you can advertise on the site if you get enough views to help keep it going. Eventually, I'm sure people would have to donate money.
really? eh...id rather work off this one or work with a rinkey dink board than pay honestly.
ForlrnPerplxity
12/07/06, 12:48 PM
really? eh...id rather work off this one or work with a rinkey dink board than pay honestly.
Well, we could work off a free message board until it expands enough where we'd have to pay something (when it would be worth it). :shrug:
mikeford
12/07/06, 12:51 PM
if dudes are writing articles and shit you're gonna need a legit site. you can make a phpboard real easy as long as you have somewhere to host it.
ForlrnPerplxity
12/07/06, 12:53 PM
That's true. Hopefully we can get the ball rolling on this pretty soon. Sounds like a good idea. But we still need someone who has a relatively decent idea on how to manage a site.
xearlynovemberx
12/07/06, 01:13 PM
i think robertacarlson would have enjoyed that womens underwear thing a little too much.
think youre funny eh?
Yankees' #1 Fan
12/07/06, 01:19 PM
think youre funny eh?
KNOW im funny.
you are a thinskinned little boy.
relax your life.
http://i13.tinypic.com/2j1mlwo.jpg
The Matt Kaufman
12/07/06, 01:30 PM
Im down for this idea..
The Matt Kaufman
12/07/06, 01:37 PM
I honestly think that a lot of people just debate a little harder because they know each other more than other people so its button pressing. I dont really see anything different about this forum from back in the summer. Ive been trying to get a few friends who are knowledgable (kingofflushing is intelligent trust me) so that theres some fresh opinions as well. Plus they like different teams. One kid likes the orioles. That could be interesting.
Whatever it may be, Im in favor of going to another message board and having people post. But I have a feeling everyone would just come back to this board anyway. The board over at headphonesturnedon.com could use a few people so if 10 of you guys want to invade that so be it.
/rant.
Yankees' #1 Fan
12/07/06, 01:39 PM
nobody likes the orioles
The Matt Kaufman
12/07/06, 01:41 PM
Haha I thought that too but I found one guy who does and is pretty hardcore about it..Everytime I mention Jeffrey Maier he wants to kill him.
hockey0001
12/07/06, 01:47 PM
not if we make our own message board. I think we have tapped all our resources on this site, but moving to bring in new blood from outside sources could lite a spark here.
and it doesn't matter where they come from. As long as that person can engage in intelligent and rational sports debates (and is not a homer), it should be fine.
and I think this could start with Still_life. As much as he sucks, he does know a little bit about football.
umm...nope. Still_life is an idiot and gets ridiculed on every board he posts at. Go to kffl.com and read some of his posts in the general NFL thread. The best is when he argues that Brady sucks because he was drafted in the 6th around and that Manning is better than Brady because he has bettet stats in the pro-bowl
hockey0001
12/07/06, 01:51 PM
and i like the idea of starting a new message board or site, i just have no idea how to go about doing it
FondestMemory
12/07/06, 02:01 PM
http://www.phpbb.com/
that site makes it fairly easy to create a usable message board. i've used it on some of my sites in the past. it's not too difficult.
as far as doing a new site, i'm in support of the idea. i'd write articles occasionally. i just suck at deadlines and shit.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 02:29 PM
if dudes are writing articles and shit you're gonna need a legit site. you can make a phpboard real easy as long as you have somewhere to host it.
would you be interested in writing comical articles? You seem to have that under check.
and its nice to see people interested. I agree with whoever said people would end up coming back here, which is why if we do this we need to recruit people and actually make the site work.
However, I think its a smarter plan if we start with a message board and see how that goes, then work on an actual website with articles and new and what not.
so the plan if were all on board...new message board, new members, new discussion.
answer my damn call....who can make a message board? If its easy I might be able to.
The Matt Kaufman
12/07/06, 02:34 PM
I think we should just invade headphonesturnedon
youkwalks
12/07/06, 02:43 PM
why dont they come here....since we have more posters
livethesounds
12/07/06, 02:49 PM
I think we should just invade headphonesturnedon
one of the dudes that started that site wanted me to go post there...its eh...
bigmike
12/07/06, 04:05 PM
thats my problem too
but I think there are places like ezboard.com or something where its relatively easy to set it up. The only problem with that is they can run slowly sometimes.
we can even add to this and make a new website, not just message board, bases solely on sports.
I've thought about a new site and I think it'd be really cool.
sounds like a great idea. but only if you promise to let me talk about the NFL, even if I don't like Jay Cutler as the starter in Denver right now.
This is just blasphemy. You're not mike shanahan, so you obviously are incapable of forming an opinion on the situation.
Thats another thing. we would have to decide who are mods, but I think its important to let people say what they want to say. Now, we cant have name calling just because that doesn't help discussion, but no biased mods would be a criteria.
I'd be down for a mod if there needs to be one. I'd say 3 at max is all that'd be needed. But I'd go thejetstolehome, preppyak, LeftWideOpen.
My sister's husband is a huge computer nerd and runs his own website, I can talk to him about hosting one. It's like $6 a month or something like that.
Chriz2z
12/07/06, 04:08 PM
I've thought about a new site and I think it'd be really cool.
This is just blasphemy. You're not mike shanahan, so you obviously are incapable of forming an opinion on the situation.
I'd be down for a mod if there needs to be one. I'd say 3 at max is all that'd be needed. But I'd go thejetstolehome, preppyak, LeftWideOpen.
My sister's husband is a huge computer nerd and runs his own website, I can talk to him about hosting one. It's like $6 a month or something like that.
I'll pitch in $1 a month.
FondestMemory
12/07/06, 04:08 PM
best places to get starts:
godaddy.com is what i use for buying and registering domain names.
3-95.com is where i've done most of my hosting in the past.
phbb.com is seriously a great place to look if you want a php message board. and anymore, php is pretty much the only way you want to do a message board.
best places to get starts:
godaddy.com is what i use for buying and registering domain names.
3-95.com is where i've done most of my hosting in the past.
phbb.com is seriously a great place to look if you want a php message board. and anymore, php is pretty much the only way you want to do a message board.
could you set it up?
Scott Weber
12/07/06, 04:44 PM
are you suggesting the sports forum link in the AP forums takes you to an external AP Sports site?
bigmike
12/07/06, 04:46 PM
are you suggesting the sports forum link in the AP forums takes you to an external AP Sports site?
I don't think so. I think he's suggesting making a whole other place that would expand on the great sports forum now, since this forum really doesn't have any means of growing.
Yankees' #1 Fan
12/07/06, 04:46 PM
i think we are talking about leaving this place completely.
Scott Weber
12/07/06, 04:52 PM
fuck that. why do that? this is a great forum with tons of little things built into it, great features, etc. just tell your friends about this forum. there's no need to go elsewhere at all - this site has more built in traffic than any new site would ever have for you guys. go ahead and try it - others have, and it never, ever, ever works.
bigmike
12/07/06, 05:03 PM
fuck that. why do that? this is a great forum with tons of little things built into it, great features, etc. just tell your friends about this forum. there's no need to go elsewhere at all - this site has more built in traffic than any new site would ever have for you guys. go ahead and try it - others have, and it never, ever, ever works.
Well, someone's quite the Negative Nancy.
LeftWideOpen
12/07/06, 05:07 PM
the point of moving somewhere else is solely for a better place to discuss sports, where the random obnoxious posts that occur in here frequently now would be limited. it's really about the environment ...a different one would foster better discussion.
and thats not to say there isnt good discussion here, because there is ... but i think the majority of us are only here for this forum. if we can replicate the discussion somewhere else without the annoyances which all of a sudden includes, but isnt limited to, an overzealous staff (you not included, weber) ...why not do it?
the only question is whether or not its maintainable.
bigmike
12/07/06, 05:11 PM
Well, to me, it's not so much moving to get rid of the obnoxious posts, it's to garner in more people who don't want to come to a music website to discuss sports.
Scott Weber
12/07/06, 05:11 PM
the point of moving somewhere else is solely for a better place to discuss sports, where the random obnoxious posts that occur in here frequently now would be limited. it's really about the environment ...a different one would foster better discussion.
and thats not to say there isnt good discussion here, because there is ... but i think the majority of us are only here for this forum. if we can replicate the discussion somewhere else without the annoyances which all of a sudden includes, but isnt limited to, an overzealous staff (you not included, weber) ...why not do it?
the only question is whether or not its maintainable.
i see the point, I have just seem people try to do it and it always fails. there's got to be a better way, and I think the discussion in here is pretty darn good. but, if somebody launched an external site i'd post there as well as here.
LeftWideOpen
12/07/06, 05:12 PM
Well, to me, it's not so much moving to get rid of the obnoxious posts, it's to garner in more people who don't want to come to a music website to discuss sports.
yeah, and thats an entirely different element that is a benefit.
Brownpants06
12/07/06, 05:16 PM
Well, to me, it's not so much moving to get rid of the obnoxious posts, it's to garner in more people who don't want to come to a music website to discuss sports.
i hate looking at that "music mends broken hearts" every day. ugh.
justinevans
12/07/06, 05:29 PM
Eh do whatever, my time for posting is going to slow down anyway. You'll always get obnoxious posts. Those people are usually banned from the forums immediately anyway.
Things for the most part are pretty much set here. And it seems like we get a new kid every week that knows a little bit. We should have continued The Hot Corner thing.
justinevans
12/07/06, 05:31 PM
Also, I think it is funny that people are scared of the sports forum lol. We're known as the assholes.
Chriz2z
12/07/06, 05:39 PM
Also, I think it is funny that people are scared of the sports forum lol. We're known as the assholes.
Really, never knew that.
Most of the General Forum stuff is shit though.
The Matt Kaufman
12/07/06, 05:51 PM
Also, I think it is funny that people are scared of the sports forum lol. We're known as the assholes.
Its true..we warn people that if u are going to post you better know what the hell you are talking about..I consider myself to be knowledgable and half the time you guys own me.
Yankees' #1 Fan
12/07/06, 05:56 PM
yeah we do own you, but we admire the fact that you got to work with Billy Crystal.
The Matt Kaufman
12/07/06, 06:05 PM
yeah we do own you, but we admire the fact that you got to work with Billy Crystal.
I dont get it
preppyak
12/07/06, 06:10 PM
young blood will make things worse...greater divide, more drama, more bullshit...and far more annoying. sure you'll have some good kiddies, but the bad apples will spoil the site for a period of transition time.
thats just my take
pretty much the experience we've gotten from "expanding" so far...and it's not like we're an exclusive forum, people can come in and out, they just tend to have little viable opinion, and thus get run out.
Besides, advertising the forum doesn't work...Tate already did it all the time last winter, and not taht many people stayed when they came in...because all they would type is "I love Gerry McNamara" or "Lebron is god", get yelled at, and then leave.
Basically, if people have sports knowledge, and they want to share it, they'll come in here and do it...
preppyak
12/07/06, 06:13 PM
i like posting here though. i think we just need to bring in some newbies. ive been going to this site for news long before i even registerd here, so its kind of a daily fix for me anyway.
Yeah...I like this site, it's incredibly functional and free...and aside from occasional power trip bannings it works really well for all of us. Until I am given a really good reason (read: I get banned for something stupid), I'm probably just going to stay here...no real reason to move elsewhere.
yeah we do own you, but we admire the fact that you got to work with Billy Crystal.
hahahahaha
preppyak
12/07/06, 06:19 PM
i see the point, I have just seem people try to do it and it always fails. there's got to be a better way, and I think the discussion in here is pretty darn good. but, if somebody launched an external site i'd post there as well as here.
Yeah...the whole HTO movement, I've heard nothing from that really at all. I think that site is still going, but, it hasn't come even close to replicating this site
Also, I think it is funny that people are scared of the sports forum lol. We're known as the assholes.
Really, never knew that.
Most of the General Forum stuff is shit though.
Well, we get that reputation because we are the only non-subjective forum that I know of....I mean, Sports has a definitive score to decide if your argument is right or wrong...you can't do that in music. So, when a music person with little sports knowledge makes a point and is wrong, they have trouble dealing with being told they are completely wrong...since it's not subjective.
In that sense, I understand wanting a different site for this forum to work under...but ultimately I am also listening to alot of the music here too...so I like the duality. I also like discussing movies and other stuff in other forums...so, I think an isolated sports forum would take that away from me.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 06:30 PM
i see the point, I have just seem people try to do it and it always fails. there's got to be a better way, and I think the discussion in here is pretty darn good. but, if somebody launched an external site i'd post there as well as here.
see, I think the discussion here is going down hill. Whenever we debate its usually a couple people choosing sides and the debate has no room to grow. I understand sometimes the sports world is slow and thus we have nothing to talk about, but it seems like we cannot even discuss general topics anymore because its all been done.
who else besides knifeparty tried to leave? We could definitely do this if we get a strong core from here posting regularly and keeping fresh topics.
or we could just try and improve our discussions here.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 06:34 PM
Yeah...the whole HTO movement, I've heard nothing from that really at all. I think that site is still going, but, it hasn't come even close to replicating this site
but these sites are the exact same as AP. They can't get off the ground because its exactly the same thing, so why move?
If we start our own sports site its a different idea than AP. It could attract kids from all around.
justinevans
12/07/06, 06:43 PM
but these sites are the exact same as AP. They can't get off the ground because its exactly the same thing, so why move?
If we start our own sports site its a different idea than AP. It could attract kids from all around.
HTO's sports forum is terrible.
One kid didn't even know how the hockey point system worked.
The Matt Kaufman
12/07/06, 06:45 PM
HTO's sports forum is terrible.
One kid didn't even know how the hockey point system worked.
and thats why we all invade..
bigmike
12/07/06, 06:47 PM
and thats why we all invade..
why? it's the same concept as AP only it's worse and there's no point in moving over there.
For me, the point of another board would be to somehow bring in more kids who bring nothing but quality to the discussions. Which is hard because you can't just be like "Hey, come post at this forum on a webzine based on music that you don't even like or listen to."
justinevans
12/07/06, 06:47 PM
and thats why we all invade..
but it does nothing? they are all younger there and stupider.
LeftWideOpen
12/07/06, 06:48 PM
and thats why we all invade..
but it'd be just the same discussion at a different website. there would be no expansion.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 06:56 PM
Well, someone's quite the Negative Nancy.
haha i think hes right though
why? it's the same concept as AP only it's worse and there's no point in moving over there.
For me, the point of another board would be to somehow bring in more kids who bring nothing but quality to the discussions. Which is hard because you can't just be like "Hey, come post at this forum on a webzine based on music that you don't even like or listen to."
thats true. thats the only drawback with getting outsiders in here.
im with preppyyak, i love this place, and i think we should get more involved cause while im at work and bored out of my mind i wanna talk sports but theres nothing to talk about lots of times. maybe we should restart justin's "hot corner" or just something to liven this place up and get us all involved more.
i just dont feel like having a completley diffrent place to post in will be that much of a diffrence. but maybe im wrong.
preppyak
12/07/06, 06:57 PM
i'm all for the Hot Corner starting back up...I'll have plenty to write on once Finals are over in a week or so
The Matt Kaufman
12/07/06, 06:59 PM
It doesnt do anything but there are a few new people over there that would be a few fresh faces..plus I dont think every single person is going to venture over there. Theres always people joining there and what not. Its just an idea
livethesounds
12/07/06, 06:59 PM
i'm all for the Hot Corner starting back up...I'll have plenty to write on once Finals are over in a week or so
yea me too. i think it could work.
but instead of it being like that we could have...oh...a article section where we could write things and just post them for everyone to read, like was suggested earlier. or we could do both.
The Matt Kaufman
12/07/06, 07:00 PM
And Im in love with this forum and most of the way the people think here..Ive been looking to talk real sports with people for a while and I finally found people who can debate the most random topics about sports.
mattregan
12/07/06, 07:01 PM
No Offense, but the real reason Matt Kaufman wants you guys to move over to HTO is because he is an admin over there, so of course he's going to say go there.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 07:02 PM
No Offense, but the real reason Matt Kaufman wants you guys to move over to HTO is because he is an admin over there, so of course he's going to say go there.
i think we figured this much.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 07:06 PM
No Offense, but the real reason Matt Kaufman wants you guys to move over to HTO is because he is an admin over there, so of course he's going to say go there.
ya, and?
livethesounds
12/07/06, 07:07 PM
ya, and?
he really is on team haterade.
mattregan
12/07/06, 07:07 PM
ya, and?
just throwing it out there if people didn't know. Jeez, I didn't know some of you were going to get a hard-on about it.
justinevans
12/07/06, 07:09 PM
i'm all for the Hot Corner starting back up...I'll have plenty to write on once Finals are over in a week or so
I'd love to do it too, but I don't think I will have time to organize everything. I start working next monday and I'll be gone pretty much from 6:30AM until around 9PM Monday thru Friday. And the weekends will consist of me sleeping. I wouldn't mind writing an article for it though. If anyone wants to do it, I can send you the old document and all you have to do is add the new articles and so forth.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 07:10 PM
I'd love to do it too, but I don't think I will have time to organize everything. I start working next monday and I'll be gone pretty much from 6:30AM until around 9PM Monday thru Friday. And the weekends will consist of me sleeping. I wouldn't mind writing an article for it though. If anyone wants to do it, I can send you the old document and all you have to do is add the new articles and so forth.
that will work. send a copy to me, id like to take a look at it.
bigmike
12/07/06, 07:11 PM
No one's saying you can come to AP. But, ideally, a different board or website, away from AP I think is something I'd be interested in because this forum is great, but it'd be even better if more people who know what they're talking about could participate, which isn't happening on a music based website.
youkwalks
12/07/06, 07:15 PM
i just dont feel like having a completley diffrent place to post in will be that much of a diffrence. but maybe im wrong.
the difference is that we try to bring in new people. We can try it here, but I dont think people will come to this site just for sports. We got lucky with the right group here, but we're ready to go bigger. Our discussions are losing interest because there are no new people offering their own views and opinions.
justinevans
12/07/06, 07:15 PM
that will work. send a copy to me, id like to take a look at it.
i attached it.
LeftWideOpen
12/07/06, 07:17 PM
i'm all for bringing back the hot corner if its like, bi weekly? writing up a couple things a week that are quality and have substance is too time consuming for me.
justinevans
12/07/06, 07:20 PM
i'm all for bringing back the hot corner if its like, bi weekly? writing up a couple things a week that are quality and have substance is too time consuming for me.
I think we should do it once a week. Post it on like Tuesday or something.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 07:24 PM
the difference is that we try to bring in new people. We can try it here, but I dont think people will come to this site just for sports. We got lucky with the right group here, but we're ready to go bigger. Our discussions are losing interest because there are no new people offering their own views and opinions.
yea, everybody knows each other by now and its almost like we all know what we're all gonna say.
i say we experiment with the alternate board and see how it works. i mean we can always come back right? (unless we all get banned for leaving or something haha)
youkwalks
12/07/06, 07:36 PM
naw, people have left (I did) for other sites and Tate didn't care. This site is so big that 10 to 15 people (thats how many post here, right?) leaving would not be a big deal. Other kids will come in here and continue the forum.
Its like the Matrix....so maybe were destined to fail.
livethesounds
12/07/06, 07:37 PM
naw, people have left (I did) for other sites and Tate didn't care. This site is so big that 10 to 15 people (thats how many post here, right?) leaving would not be a big deal. Other kids will come in here and continue the forum.
Its like the Matrix....so maybe were destined to fail.
haha
preppyak
12/07/06, 08:22 PM
naw, people have left (I did) for other sites and Tate didn't care. This site is so big that 10 to 15 people (thats how many post here, right?) leaving would not be a big deal. Other kids will come in here and continue the forum.
Its like the Matrix....so maybe were destined to fail.
hahaha
I think we should do it once a week. Post it on like Tuesday or something.
Yeah...that'd work...even a Wednesday, so NFL people have an extra day to write stuff and send it. I'll probably write most of my stuff over break and spread it out over the next few months, editing as I go.
preppyak
12/07/06, 08:24 PM
i attached it.
haha...i was good for most of those articles...but, wow on the saying Colorado is a dark horse in the one...air-balled with taht one
LeftWideOpen
12/07/06, 08:24 PM
I think we should do it once a week. Post it on like Tuesday or something.
i know this is completely unrelated to sports ...but i saw your avatar and it reminded me of how a few weeks back in my abnormal psych class, we discussed "golden showers". and yes, thats the scientific name for that sexual deviant behavior.
bigmike
12/07/06, 08:27 PM
haha...i was good for most of those articles...but, wow on the saying Colorado is a dark horse in the one...air-balled with taht one
Yeah, you screwed that up like not taking Texas A&M over Syracuse in the 12/5 matchup in the NCAA Tourney last year.....:wave:
FondestMemory
12/07/06, 08:30 PM
i know this is completely unrelated to sports ...but i saw your avatar and it reminded me of how a few weeks back in my abnormal psych class, we discussed "golden showers". and yes, thats the scientific name for that sexual deviant behavior.
golden showers wasn't an elective when i was in college.
man the times they are a changin.
LeftWideOpen
12/07/06, 08:50 PM
golden showers wasn't an elective when i was in college.
man the times they are a changin.
haha, it wasnt a class about them. it was part of an abnormal psych course. apparently thats how they refer, scientifically i might add, to the behavior on peeing on someone else in a sexual fashion.
thejetstolehome
12/07/06, 08:51 PM
how anyone could be into that is just....:shudder:
bigmike
12/07/06, 08:54 PM
http://www.motumbo.net/images/r-kelly-business-card.jpg
LeftWideOpen
12/07/06, 08:54 PM
how anyone could be into that is just....:shudder:
yeah for real. blows my mind.
The Matt Kaufman
12/07/06, 10:33 PM
No Offense, but the real reason Matt Kaufman wants you guys to move over to HTO is because he is an admin over there, so of course he's going to say go there.
No it has nothing to do with that man. Why the fuck do you have to say shit like that? I can care less what anyone wants to do. I just named one place we could all go where they are trying to build a community. Fuckoff.
The Matt Kaufman
12/07/06, 10:48 PM
the difference is that we try to bring in new people. We can try it here, but I dont think people will come to this site just for sports. We got lucky with the right group here, but we're ready to go bigger. Our discussions are losing interest because there are no new people offering their own views and opinions.
Im actually working on getting a few people to join who know their stuff..the kid who I am friends with posted the other night but posted crap. Im working on him and he does know his shit. Also a friend who likes the orioles a red sox fan phillies fan and yankee fan who I am all friends with are joining as well..they all know their stuff and would be excellent additions
justinevans
12/08/06, 04:11 AM
hahaha
Yeah...that'd work...even a Wednesday, so NFL people have an extra day to write stuff and send it. I'll probably write most of my stuff over break and spread it out over the next few months, editing as I go.
well if anyone wants to handle it, I'll write a similar piece to what I wrote last time. I think if we make it nice, we can get Tate or Weber to put it on the main page and that might attract some more kids.
Split2nd
12/08/06, 06:58 AM
Protection
steroids
Pat Burrell
JD Drew
discuss.
justinevans
12/08/06, 06:59 AM
Protection
steroids
Pat Burrell
JD Drew
discuss.
hahaha what?
The Matt Kaufman
12/08/06, 08:39 AM
Protection
steroids
Pat Burrell
JD Drew
discuss.
:appl:
LeftWideOpen
12/08/06, 08:57 AM
Protection
steroids
Pat Burrell
JD Drew
discuss.
that sums up this forum for the past month or so.
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