InfoWars

[JuneJuly]

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post the link, but I'm sure everybody knows about this site. Someone has to have more knowledge about it than me, what is up with it? Mostly I've just seen stickers and stuff like that advertising it.

[caveBEAR]

Why wouldn't you be allowed to post the link?

[Scrandon]

Jones sees himself as a libertarian, and rejects being described as a right-winger.[13] He has also called himself a paleoconservative.[14] In a promotional biography he is described as an "aggressive constitutionalist".[15][16]
I lol'd.

[JuneJuly]

I didn't know if you could post to external sites and stuff... some forums I've used don't like it. :shrug:

http://www.infowars.com/

[JuneJuly]

I guess the main reason I even bring this up is this crazy story about the government apparently taking away the newborn child of some guy who belongs to Oath Keepers.

[loveisdead]

These people suck.

[aceknifefight]

good site if you wanna know whats really going on within our goverment

[Jason Tate]

People actually fall for that website? This is a 9/11 Truther who is flat out insane: Jones is also a proponent of such conspiracies as a New World Order plot to exterminate 80 percent of the world's population, the (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com %2Fobama-science-czars-plan-to-sterilize-population-through-water-supply-already-happening%2F) Obama administration's "already happening" "plan to sterilize [the] population through water supply" and FEMA "death camps."

[loveisdead]

People actually fall for that website? This is a 9/11 Truther who is flat out insane: Jones is also a proponent of such conspiracies as a New World Order plot to exterminate 80 percent of the world's population, the (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com %2Fobama-science-czars-plan-to-sterilize-population-through-water-supply-already-happening%2F) Obama administration's "already happening" "plan to sterilize [the] population through water supply" and FEMA "death camps."

Sounds totally reasonable to me.

[D' Evils]

People actually fall for that website? This is a 9/11 Truther who is flat out insane: Jones is also a proponent of such conspiracies as a New World Order plot to exterminate 80 percent of the world's population, the (http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com %2Fobama-science-czars-plan-to-sterilize-population-through-water-supply-already-happening%2F) Obama administration's "already happening" "plan to sterilize [the] population through water supply" and FEMA "death camps."

Jones isnt as crazy as alot of people like to think, he is a 9/11 truther, yes. He also does believe in the new world order, but has tons of facts to back up his belief. The new world order has nothing to do with population extermination or anything.

[crackedthesky]

good site if you wanna know whats really going on within our goverment

:lol:

[Jason Tate]

Jones isnt as crazy as alot of people like to think, he is a 9/11 truther, yes. He also does believe in the new world order, but has tons of facts to back up his belief. The new world order has nothing to do with population extermination or anything.
Yeah, this doesn't make any sense.

Jones isnt as crazy as alot of people like to think

Followed by: "he is a 9/11 truther" and "does believe in the new world order"

:-|

That's as crazy as I think he is.

[D' Evils]

Yeah, this doesn't make any sense.

Jones isnt as crazy as alot of people like to think

Followed by: "he is a 9/11 truther" and "does believe in the new world order"

:-|

That's as crazy as I think he is.

half of the United States population believes 9/11 was an inside job, how is that crazy?

the new world order isnt all that hard to understand, its just a uniting of all the nations into one complete power/dictatorship.

[hoser1689]

Jones isnt as crazy as alot of people like to think, he is a 9/11 truther, yes. He also does believe in the new world order, but has tons of facts to back up his belief. The new world order has nothing to do with population extermination or anything.

he seems pretty fuckin crazy to me....

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[Jason Tate]

half of the United States population believes 9/11 was an inside job, how is that crazy?

the new world order isnt all that hard to understand, its just a uniting of all the nations into one complete power/dictatorship.
What poll are you pulling those numbers from?

I didn't say it's hard to understand - it's also not happening ...

[hoser1689]

aother example

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i could probably post like 50-60 videos showing how fuckin crazy this man is. although i do read his site/watch his docs because they do bring the laughs.

[D' Evils]

What poll are you pulling those numbers from?

I didn't say it's hard to understand - it's also not happening ...

CNN actually, want the link?

how is it not happening, we have the UN, we have the euro, within the next 10 years there will be the north american euro...

[Jason Tate]

CNN actually, want the link?

how is it not happening, we have the UN, we have the euro, within the next 10 years there will be the north american euro...
Yes.

The UN and the euro are not a new world order.

[hoser1689]

only New World Order i believe in......

http://www.wrestlingwiththetruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/nwo-001.jpg

[yourenotsam]

Oh God, is someone really trying to pass off the 9/11 "Truth" movement as fact? Really? I'm sorry but anyone who believes even a quarter of the bullshit in Loose Change or Zeitgeist is a fucking moron.

It's times like this that really make me hate the Internet.

[hoser1689]

also i remember this time last year....Alex Jones was saying that Swine Flu was created by the government and that the shot would exterminate the population.......whatever happened to that?

[yourenotsam]

also i remember this time last year....Alex Jones was saying that Swine Flu was created by the government and that the shot would exterminate the population.......whatever happened to that?

The New World Order needed to keep survivors from the staged 9/11 attacks alive to put them in FEMA death camps for future interrogation on how to best poison the water supply, duh.

[crackedthesky]

CNN actually, want the link?

how is it not happening, we have the UN, we have the euro, within the next 10 years there will be the north american euro...

The UN can't get countries to do jack, and they still don't use the euro in China, so basically... you're an idiot.

[D' Evils]

Yes.

The UN and the euro are not a new world order.

im not saying they are. but they're the beginning of something to come.


alright let me locate it.

[D' Evils]

Yes.

The UN and the euro are not a new world order.

4tBNDaDhNH0&feature=related

comes in around 6:40

[hoser1689]

The New World Order needed to keep survivors from the staged 9/11 attacks alive to put them in FEMA death camps for future interrogation on how to best poison the water supply, duh.
maybe the Swine Flu was just a coverup for the real extermination method. the government is going to spray chemtrails on all of us making us either infertile or dead. all the survivors would then be sent to FEMA camps and have a microchip inserted in them so the government can keep track of them all. the infertile then become slaves for the one world government......

i think i just figured it out.

[Jason Tate]

4tBNDaDhNH0&feature=related

comes in around 6:40
I want a link to the actual poll. The internals and methodology matter. Not some graphic flashed on TV.

[Jason Tate]

im not saying they are. but they're the beginning of something to come.


alright let me locate it.
Spacious logic at best.

[crackedthesky]

4tBNDaDhNH0&feature=related

comes in around 6:40

I wasn't aware that a current-watcher poll from a channel nobody watches represents the majority of Americans.

So yeah, 65% of people think it was an inside job.
Of the, what, 350 million people in America, a bit over 1 million watch CNN. So basically, 65% of .003% of our population believe that, according to your cute little poll.

This is what causes people to believe idiots like Jones - they're too dumb to actually go do research things.

[Jason Tate]

Note when I say poll ... I mean an actual poll with real pollsters; not an online voting page.

[jwicklun]

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[aceknifefight]

[quote=crackedthesky;76836512]:lol:[/quo


your lame and scared of the truth , you wont be laughing when the fbi come knocking at your door and takes you and your family to fema camps , dont believe me?/ do the research yourself , why would you doubt when there's shit like this out there ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYVBTu3Hr8

[aceknifefight]

aother example

6ccX_PQtlMY&feature=related




i could probably post like 50-60 videos showing how fuckin crazy this man is. although i do read his site/watch his docs because they do bring the laughs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYVBTu3Hr8

[aceknifefight]

Yes.

The UN and the euro are not a new world order.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYVBTu3Hr8

[aceknifefight]

Oh God, is someone really trying to pass off the 9/11 "Truth" movement as fact? Really? I'm sorry but anyone who believes even a quarter of the bullshit in Loose Change or Zeitgeist is a fucking moron.

It's times like this that really make me hate the Internet.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYVBTu3Hr8

[Jason Tate]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYVBTu3Hr8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYVBTu3Hr8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYVBTu3Hr8
Stop spamming. And ... why am I supposed to watch an MTV commercial?

[aceknifefight]

also i remember this time last year....Alex Jones was saying that Swine Flu was created by the government and that the shot would exterminate the population.......whatever happened to that?

and it did in fact kill someone very close to me ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYVBTu3Hr8

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

http://www.zgeek.com/forum/gallery/files/8/7/4/6/tinfoilhat.jpg

[saysmydoctor]

Why would anyone actually describe themselves as a paleoconservative? Like, you're just asking to be mocked and ridiculed.

[jwicklun]

[quote=crackedthesky;76836512]:lol:[/quo


your lame and scared of the truth , you wont be laughing when the fbi come knocking at your door and takes you and your family to fema camps , dont believe me?/ do the research yourself , why would you doubt when there's shit like this out there ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYVBTu3Hr8

This deserves a double....
:lol: :lol:

[aceknifefight]

Stop spamming. And ... why am I supposed to watch an MTV commercial?


you seem like a smart guy , that's capable of putting two in two together...

[crackedthesky]

your lame and scared of the truth , you wont be laughing when the fbi come knocking at your door and takes you and your family to fema camps , dont believe me?/ do the research yourself , why would you doubt when there's shit like this out there ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYVBTu3Hr8

First of all, is quoting really that hard?

Second, :lol:

[crackedthesky]

What the fuck is a FEMA camp?

[Jason Tate]

you seem like a smart guy , that's capable of putting two in two together...
Can I really put two in two? Is one like absorbing the other? Seriously, posting an MTV video? Come on.

[aceknifefight]

no worries , Knowledge is power

[crackedthesky]

and it did in fact kill someone very close to me ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDYVBTu3Hr8

First of all, quit fucking posting that link.

Second, if MTV ran a commercial saying the holocaust could never happen, would you hold that to be the Word of God, too?

Third, that commercial is obviously a reminder that we can't ever let the holocaust happen again, most likely aired around the anniversary of the end of WW2. It means absolutely nothing more, and it sure as fuck isn't evidence for your ridiculous claims.

[crackedthesky]

no worries , Knowledge is power

Then you must be pretty fucking powerless.

[aceknifefight]

Can I really put two in two? Is one like absorbing the other? Seriously, posting an MTV video? Come on.

why would anyone waste millions of dollars on a commercial that doesn't sell anything ?? whats the purpose? debating with you and most user's on this site is like debating with a fucking taco . Knowledge is power.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF2JB53aX-E

[Jason Tate]

This troll sucks.

[aceknifefight]

First of all, quit fucking posting that link.

Second, if MTV ran a commercial saying the holocaust could never happen, would you hold that to be the Word of God, too?

Third, that commercial is obviously a reminder that we can't ever let the holocaust happen again, most likely aired around the anniversary of the end of WW2. It means absolutely nothing more, and it sure as fuck isn't evidence for your ridiculous claims.

you wanna know whats really going on , you'll find it , you dont ? you still be there with your thumb up your butt , Knowledge is power

[JuneJuly]

What have I done :shrug:

[crackedthesky]

you wanna know whats really going on , you'll find it , you dont ? you still be there with your thumb up your butt , Knowledge is power

Okay, Mr. School House Rock.

[TheWonderYears]

My brother is one of these Alex Jones fanboys. It's sad.

[D' Evils]

I wasn't aware that a current-watcher poll from a channel nobody watches represents the majority of Americans.

So yeah, 65% of people think it was an inside job.
Of the, what, 350 million people in America, a bit over 1 million watch CNN. So basically, 65% of .003% of our population believe that, according to your cute little poll.

This is what causes people to believe idiots like Jones - they're too dumb to actually go do research things.

i have done my fair share of research actually, i believe 9/11 was an inside job because the US says the jet fuel burnt the steel beams causing the buildings to collapse. Well jet fuel doesnt burn hot enough to melt steel. Also, building 7 some how collapses when it s not even struck by a plane, due to a "unexplained" explosion.

[Jason Tate]

i have done my fair share of research actually, i believe 9/11 was an inside job because the US says the jet fuel burnt the steel beams causing the buildings to collapse. Well jet fuel doesnt burn hot enough to melt steel. Also, building 7 some how collapses when it s not even struck by a plane, due to a "unexplained" explosion.
Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."

:yawn:

[D' Evils]

http://articles.cnn.com/2006-09-11/politics/911.poll_1_latest-poll-sampling-error-opinion-research-corporation?_s=PM:POLITICS

[paper halo]

i have done my fair share of research actually, i believe 9/11 was an inside job because the US says the jet fuel burnt the steel beams causing the buildings to collapse. Well jet fuel doesnt burn hot enough to melt steel. Also, building 7 some how collapses when it s not even struck by a plane, due to a "unexplained" explosion.

Jet fuel burns hot enough to substantially weaken steel, asshat. Thought you'd done research?

[crackedthesky]

i have done my fair share of research actually, i believe 9/11 was an inside job because the US says the jet fuel burnt the steel beams causing the buildings to collapse. Well jet fuel doesnt burn hot enough to melt steel. Also, building 7 some how collapses when it s not even struck by a plane, due to a "unexplained" explosion.

Jet fuel can't melt steel, true.
But after about an hour of burning, jet fuel can cause the beams to lose 60-80 percent of their strength.

Must not have taken the research thing too seriously.

[Jason Tate]

http://articles.cnn.com/2006-09-11/politics/911.poll_1_latest-poll-sampling-error-opinion-research-corporation?_s=PM:POLITICS
Nothing in that link backs up your statement: "half of the United States population believes 9/11 was an inside job"

It's definitely not saying what you think it is.

[loveisdead]

How did I know an infowars thread would come to this.

[D' Evils]

Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."

:yawn:

okay and all the explosions 50 floors down are blamed on what?

heres a few points i made in a paper i wrote:

“what is clear in this trading is the possibility that people both knew in advance, and profited from, the September 11 tragedy. In the days leading up to September 11, thousands of "put" options--a tool by which investors profit from a falling stock price--were purchased on companies whose stocks tanked after September 11. Most prominent among these companies are American and United Airlines, whose hijacked planes hit the twin towers, and the investment firms of Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch, whose offices were destroyed in the towers. Between September 6 and 7, investors purchased 4,744 "put" options in United Airlines at the Chicago Board Options Exchange.”

"according to the reports Hani Hanjour was the pilot responsible for the crash, he was able to pull off what many pilots call an impossible maneuver instead of just crashing directly into the building. What many don’t know was that in the months prior to the attacks Hanjour was failed and kicked out of a Florida pilot school due to the lack of flying knowledge"

let me also add how the section of the pentagon that was hit was the navys financing sector, at the time the navy was in a debt of nearly 2 billion dollars and after 9/11 all that debt suddenly disapeers.

[JuneJuly]

How did I know an infowars thread would come to this.

sorry :shrug:

I just wanted to know what people thought of that Oath Keepers story circulating.

[D' Evils]

Nothing in that link backs up your statement: "half of the United States population believes 9/11 was an inside job"

It's definitely not saying what you think it is.

The percentage of Americans who blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington has risen from almost a third to almost half over the past four years, a CNN poll released Monday found

[Jason Tate]

okay and all the explosions 50 floors down are blamed on what?

heres a few points i made in a paper i wrote:

“what is clear in this trading is the possibility that people both knew in advance, and profited from, the September 11 tragedy. In the days leading up to September 11, thousands of "put" options--a tool by which investors profit from a falling stock price--were purchased on companies whose stocks tanked after September 11. Most prominent among these companies are American and United Airlines, whose hijacked planes hit the twin towers, and the investment firms of Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch, whose offices were destroyed in the towers. Between September 6 and 7, investors purchased 4,744 "put" options in United Airlines at the Chicago Board Options Exchange.”

"according to the reports Hani Hanjour was the pilot responsible for the crash, he was able to pull off what many pilots call an impossible maneuver instead of just crashing directly into the building. What many don’t know was that in the months prior to the attacks Hanjour was failed and kicked out of a Florida pilot school due to the lack of flying knowledge"

let me also add how the section of the pentagon that was hit was the navys financing sector, at the time the navy was in a debt of nearly 2 billion dollars and after 9/11 all that debt suddenly disapeers.
So, your deal is that when presented with overwhelming evidence for one of your points - you just bring up another?

Want me to answer your "explosions" question? Ok.

Once each tower began to collapse, the weight of all the floors above the collapsed zone bore down with pulverizing force on the highest intact floor. Unable to absorb the massive energy, that floor would fail, transmitting the forces to the floor below, allowing the collapse to progress downward through the building in a chain reaction. Engineers call the process "pancaking," and it does not require an explosion to begin, according to David Biggs, a structural engineer at Ryan-Biggs Associates and a member of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) team that worked on the FEMA report.

Like all office buildings, the WTC towers contained a huge volume of air. As they pancaked, all that air—along with the concrete and other debris pulverized by the force of the collapse—was ejected with enormous energy. "When you have a significant portion of a floor collapsing, it's going to shoot air and concrete dust out the window," NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder tells PM. Those clouds of dust may create the impression of a controlled demolition, Sunder adds, "but it is the floor pancaking that leads to that perception."

Demolition expert Romero regrets that his comments to the Albuquerque Journal became fodder for conspiracy theorists. "I was misquoted in saying that I thought it was explosives that brought down the building," he tells PM. "I only said that that's what it looked like."

Romero, who agrees with the scientific conclusion that fire triggered the collapses, demanded a retraction from the Journal. It was printed Sept. 22, 2001. "I felt like my scientific reputation was on the line." But emperors-clothes.com saw something else: "The paymaster of Romero's research institute is the Pentagon. Directly or indirectly, pressure was brought to bear, forcing Romero to retract his original statement." Romero responds: "Conspiracy theorists came out saying that the government got to me. That is the farthest thing from the truth. This has been an albatross around my neck for three years."

[Jason Tate]

The percentage of Americans who blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington has risen from almost a third to almost half over the past four years, a CNN poll released Monday found
Uh, you realize that's not saying America/Bush did it - but failed to react to terrorism warnings, right? Read the entire article.

[Jason Tate]

sorry :shrug:

I just wanted to know what people thought of that Oath Keepers story circulating.
I'm actually surprised there's a group I could find more annoying than the Tea Party.

[D' Evils]

So, your deal is that when presented with overwhelming evidence for one of your points - you just bring up another?

Want me to answer your "explosions" question? Ok.

Once each tower began to collapse, the weight of all the floors above the collapsed zone bore down with pulverizing force on the highest intact floor. Unable to absorb the massive energy, that floor would fail, transmitting the forces to the floor below, allowing the collapse to progress downward through the building in a chain reaction. Engineers call the process "pancaking," and it does not require an explosion to begin, according to David Biggs, a structural engineer at Ryan-Biggs Associates and a member of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) team that worked on the FEMA report.

Like all office buildings, the WTC towers contained a huge volume of air. As they pancaked, all that air—along with the concrete and other debris pulverized by the force of the collapse—was ejected with enormous energy. "When you have a significant portion of a floor collapsing, it's going to shoot air and concrete dust out the window," NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder tells PM. Those clouds of dust may create the impression of a controlled demolition, Sunder adds, "but it is the floor pancaking that leads to that perception."

Demolition expert Romero regrets that his comments to the Albuquerque Journal became fodder for conspiracy theorists. "I was misquoted in saying that I thought it was explosives that brought down the building," he tells PM. "I only said that that's what it looked like."

Romero, who agrees with the scientific conclusion that fire triggered the collapses, demanded a retraction from the Journal. It was printed Sept. 22, 2001. "I felt like my scientific reputation was on the line." But emperors-clothes.com saw something else: "The paymaster of Romero's research institute is the Pentagon. Directly or indirectly, pressure was brought to bear, forcing Romero to retract his original statement." Romero responds: "Conspiracy theorists came out saying that the government got to me. That is the farthest thing from the truth. This has been an albatross around my neck for three years."

the explosions happened before anything began to collapse, there explosions caused the floors to collapse, firefighters, policemen, survivors have all said that there bomb like explosions and they were the ones there. im gonna take there word for it, also how can you explain the lava like liquid found at ground zero..

[JuneJuly]

I'm actually surprised there's a group I could find more annoying than the Tea Party.

They're scarier than the tea party.

Plus the fact that they're claiming that the government took away that baby BECAUSE the guy was a member of the Oath Keepers is insane.

[D' Evils]

Uh, you realize that's not saying America/Bush did it - but failed to react to terrorism warnings, right? Read the entire article.

my bad, wrong link obviously. i guarantee there is one out there with the exact information, i just need to locate it.

[Jason Tate]

the explosions happened before anything began to collapse, there explosions caused the floors to collapse, firefighters, policemen, survivors have all said that there bomb like explosions and they were the ones there. im gonna take there word for it, also how can you explain the lava like liquid found at ground zero..
When you hear a loud noise, the best way to describe it is "like an explosion" - that doesn't mean that's what it was. I have no idea how any logical person can go from "lava like liquid" to "must be explosions." You sound like you want to believe.

[Jason Tate]

my bad, wrong link obviously. i guarantee there is one out there with the exact information, i just need to locate it.
1/2 of the country does not think 9/11 was an inside job. The number is far, far, far smaller than that.

[crackedthesky]

the explosions happened before anything began to collapse, there explosions caused the floors to collapse, firefighters, policemen, survivors have all said that there bomb like explosions and they were the ones there. im gonna take there word for it, also how can you explain the lava like liquid found at ground zero..

Perhaps what they heard was the second plane hitting the second tower?

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

1/2 of the country does not think 9/11 was an inside job. The number is far, far, far smaller than that.

According to this reliable source, 84% of Americans reject the official 9/11 story (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/141006poll.htm)

[crackedthesky]

According to this reliable source, 84% of Americans reject the official 9/11 story (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/141006poll.htm)

Lmfao, I love how they counted "Hiding something," "Mostly lying," and even "Not sure."

[JuneJuly]

According to this reliable source, 84% of Americans reject the official 9/11 story (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/141006poll.htm)

Prisonplanet is run by exactly the same people (Alex Jones) as Infowars.

[crackedthesky]

Prisonplanet is run by exactly the same people (Alex Jones) as Infowars.

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic about it being a reliable source.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Prisonplanet is run by exactly the same people (Alex Jones) as Infowars.

Yea, five seconds of looking at that I came to that conclusion, hence my use of the word "reliable"

[JuneJuly]

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic about it being a reliable source.


Yea, five seconds of looking at that I came to that conclusion, hence my use of the word "reliable"

I'm not very good at detecting internet sarcasm. :|

[jawstheme]

This thread is crazy.

[caveBEAR]

Fuckin' shit...I spend all day at work talking to the receptionist girl when I should have been involved in all this insanity.

See, girls are nothin' but trouble...

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Fuckin' shit...I spend all day at work talking to the receptionist girl when I should have been involved in all this insanity.

See, girls are nothin' but trouble...

Receptionist, eh? Are you hoping to develop a Jim/Pam relationship?

[caveBEAR]

Receptionist, eh? Are you hoping to develop a Jim/Pam relationship?

Ha ha ha ha, sadly, yes. Although, 90% of the people we work with seem like mutants, so we're just Pam/Jim by default.
:shrug:

[xshady121]

I'm so glad I decided to stop in this thread.

[Gumbyjag]

some people believe the dumbest shit.

[icantdecide]

he seems pretty fuckin crazy to me....

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Lmao'd.

aother example

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Wtf'd.

If anyone has ever seen an Alex Jones documentary, you'll know that this guy is a combo of douchebag, narcissist, and certifiable lunatic. Every conspiracy theory that he has comes back to how great he thinks he is and how much of a leader he is (leader of packs of impressionable teenagers going through that "phase"). I support looking into our government, because of course there are always mistakes and yes some lies as well. People do need to know what's going on. However, you're not going to learn anything from this mega-douche.

[zion the lion]

Is this the guy who said that diet coke is slowly making women infertile because the government wants to exterminate most of the population?

[icantdecide]

Is this the guy who said that diet coke is slowly making women infertile because the government wants to exterminate most of the population?

I think so. He's also associated with those people who think that the Illuminati are trying to control the population by fluoridating the water to make us obese, destroy our thyroid glands and make us passive to excessive government oppression.

Oh, and also:

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[CastlesXClouds]

I'm actually surprised there's a group I could find more annoying than the Tea Party.
what about the Westboro Baptists

[zion the lion]

I think so. He's also associated with those people who think that the Illuminati are trying to control the population by fluoridating the water to make us obese, destroy our thyroid glands and make us passive to excessive government oppression.

Yeah its the same guy. I found this on stumbleupon a while back.

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[J.C.]

Didn't realize we'd been paid another visit by the Tinfoil Hat Brigade.

[jawstheme]

Lmao'd.



Wtf'd.

If anyone has ever seen an Alex Jones documentary, you'll know that this guy is a combo of douchebag, narcissist, and certifiable lunatic. Every conspiracy theory that he has comes back to how great he thinks he is and how much of a leader he is (leader of packs of impressionable teenagers going through that "phase"). I support looking into our government, because of course there are always mistakes and yes some lies as well. People do need to know what's going on. However, you're not going to learn anything from this mega-douche.

If I was a corrupt government I'd hire guys like him to spew these crazy theories so that when I did do something shady everybody would just write it off as another conspiracy theory.

[jwicklun]

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[icantdecide]

If I was a corrupt government I'd hire guys like him to spew these crazy theories so that when I did do something shady everybody would just write it off as another conspiracy theory.

Exactly. Alex Jones is the perfect asset for any corrupt politician/government trying to wipe out opposition, because it makes conspiracy theorists, or even just the far left, look like fools. David Icke, for instance, does the same thing. You question any status quo, share it with others, and sooner or later some whacked out asshole comes along and throws it in with these ideas about alien mind contol and/or New World Order-esque global imperialism, and more reasonable people look insane.

[Sic Transit Zeb]

When you hear a loud noise, the best way to describe it is "like an explosion" - that doesn't mean that's what it was. I have no idea how any logical person can go from "lava like liquid" to "must be explosions." You sound like you want to believe.

I'm surprised you're being as patient as you are. I like it.

[Jason Tate]

what about the Westboro Baptists
:lol:

[CastlesXClouds]

:lol:
about as annoying and ignorant as groups get

[caveBEAR]

how is it not happening, we have the UN, we have the euro, within the next 10 years there will be the north american euro...

I know 99% of what this guy said in here was unfiltered insanity, but how did we let that one sneak by?

North American Euro. North American. Euro. You know, like 'Europe'.
God, what a fucking tool this kid is.

[D' Evils]

I know 99% of what this guy said in here was unfiltered insanity, but how did we let that one sneak by?

North American Euro. North American. Euro. You know, like 'Europe'.
God, what a fucking tool this kid is.

i actually believe everything i said, your the tool that didnt get the concept of a euro in america, not an actual euro but a multiple country used currency.

[crackedthesky]

i actually believe everything i said, your the tool that didnt get the concept of a euro in america, not an actual euro but a multiple country used currency.

Interesting enough point.
Out of curiosity... how do you know this is coming within the next ten years?

[Scrandon]

your the tool

[D' Evils]

your the tool

You're, my bad for using improper grammar on the net.

[Scrandon]

You're bad

[asmolitor]

i actually believe everything i said, your the tool that didnt get the concept of a euro in america, not an actual euro but a multiple country used currency.

it's called the "amero."

i hate it when wingbats can't even get their own shit right.

[crackedthesky]

You're, my bad for using improper grammar on the net.

I won't make fun of your grammar. Answer my question.

[D' Evils]

it's called the "amero."

i hate it when wingbats can't even get their own shit right.

i never called it anything jackass, i was simply using it as an example.

[loveisdead]

i never called it anything jackass, i was simply using it as an example.

haha. Yeah, he's such a jackass.

[asmolitor]

i never called it anything jackass, i was simply using it as an example.

an example that has a defined name and conspiracy attached to it. rookie.

haha. Yeah, he's such a jackass.

haha, yup.

[crackedthesky]

Lol, if this is so obvious and we're all blind to it, why can't he answer a simple question?

[Machu505]

The amero is #87 on my list of concerns, right below meteor strikes.

[crackedthesky]

The amero is #87 on my list of concerns, right below meteor strikes.

Where does zombie apocalypse rest on that list?

[D' Evils]

an example that has a defined name and conspiracy attached to it. rookie.



haha, yup.

its not even a conspiracy, its simply a theoretical monetary union between, US canada and mexico.

[Nevuk]

I'm really hoping this is one of togepi's troll accounts.

[Nevuk]

about as annoying and ignorant as groups get
Annoying is true, but they're not ignorant in the slightest. They're well aware of what they're doing.

[saysmydoctor]

I wish the amero was a reality.

[zion the lion]

I know 99% of what this guy said in here was unfiltered insanity, but how did we let that one sneak by?

North American Euro. North American. Euro. You know, like 'Europe'.
God, what a fucking tool this kid is.

What I dont understand is why when people decide to be dicks online, they pick at the tiniest things in the world. I understood what he was saying. If not saying something like "the equivalent of a euro in north america" makes someone a tool then I'm afraid to think what picking at someone's grammar (and whatever the fuck his mistake was) would make someone.

Anyway, I'd love a north american euro type thing to actually happen, I'm tired of all the Canadian coins I get back as change.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords

[Scrandon]

What I dont understand is why when people decide to be dicks online, they pick at the tiniest things in the world. I understood what he was saying. If not saying something like "the equivalent of a euro in north america" makes someone a tool then I'm afraid to think what picking at someone's grammar (and whatever the fuck his mistake was) would make someone.

Anyway, I'd love a north american euro type thing to actually happen, I'm tired of all the Canadian coins I get back as change.

Can you even fathom the implications of the Amero?? This shit is about way more than just Canadian coins man. This would be New World Order status.

Every night, I head to my bomb shelter and dream up conspiracy theories and the Amero is involved in 9 out of every 10. Just sayin'.

[a speedo model]

What a great read.

[caveBEAR]

i actually believe everything i said, your the tool that didnt get the concept of a euro in america, not an actual euro but a multiple country used currency.

Christ man, the Amero is a fully developed conspiracy theory touted by nuts like Alex Jones and yourself. If you are going to rant about fictitious (and not all that harmful) events that you apparently have proof of that no one else does, at least have the decency to use the proper term.

North American Euro = Amero

[caveBEAR]

What I dont understand is why when people decide to be dicks online, they pick at the tiniest things in the world. I understood what he was saying. If not saying something like "the equivalent of a euro in north america" makes someone a tool then I'm afraid to think what picking at someone's grammar (and whatever the fuck his mistake was) would make someone.

Well, I didn't really want to rehash on everyone already informing that kid of why he was crazy, so I instead zeroed in on his use of 'north american euro' instead of Amero, which no one else commented on.

See, when being a dick online, you don't really need to be too concerned with what the subject of the dickery is, you worry more-so about the dickery itself.

Anyway, I'd love a north american euro type thing to actually happen, I'm tired of all the Canadian coins I get back as change.

Your reasoning is odd, but point is sound. I bet people's views on Mexico would change if their economic stability directly impacted us the way an 'Amero' would make it, especially in the eyes of those that value fiscal matters, i.e., conservatives.

[crackedthesky]

its not even a conspiracy, its simply a theoretical monetary union between, US canada and mexico.

No, seriously, please, just answer my question. Seriously. It was funny at first, but every time you post without answering it, you look more and more ridiculous. It's a simple question, so just take a swing.

[zion the lion]

Can you even fathom the implications of the Amero?? This shit is about way more than just Canadian coins man. This would be New World Order status.

Every night, I head to my bomb shelter and dream up conspiracy theories and the Amero is involved in 9 out of every 10. Just sayin'.

Its all about canadian coins...the owners of a laundromat get pissed when you try to use a damn canadian quarter. Its bullshit. But I hope you made that bomb shelter yourself, construction workers and contractors are secretly trained by the government to fill your bomb shelters and house with asbestos.

Well, I didn't really want to rehash on everyone already informing that kid of why he was crazy, so I instead zeroed in on his use of 'north american euro' instead of Amero, which no one else commented on.

See, when being a dick online, you don't really need to be too concerned with what the subject of the dickery is, you worry more-so about the dickery itself.



Your reasoning is odd, but point is sound. I bet people's views on Mexico would change if their economic stability directly impacted us the way an 'Amero' would make it, especially in the eyes of those that value fiscal matters, i.e., conservatives.

You could be a professor in online dickisms.


And maybe we'd get some colorful money...and coins that are worth 5 dollars or whatever.

[D' Evils]

Christ man, the Amero is a fully developed conspiracy theory touted by nuts like Alex Jones and yourself. If you are going to rant about fictitious (and not all that harmful) events that you apparently have proof of that no one else does, at least have the decency to use the proper term.

North American Euro = Amero

its not a fucking conspiracy theory what so ever, do the research. but hey im the rookie

[Jason Tate]

Then what is it?

[caveBEAR]

its not a fucking conspiracy theory what so ever, do the research. but hey im the rookie

Yes, it is indeed a conspiracy. As a matter of fact, the Amero 'prototype' most people crow about was just a piece of art from a guy who creates fake coins.

Feel free, however, to post anything to prove us wrong. Just saying, 'it's not a fucking conspiracy' doesn't cut it, but you are the rookie, so these shortcomings are expected.

[D' Evils]

Yes, it is indeed a conspiracy. As a matter of fact, the Amero 'prototype' most people crow about was just a piece of art from a guy who creates fake coins.

Feel free, however, to post anything to prove us wrong. Just saying, 'it's not a fucking conspiracy' doesn't cut it, but you are the rookie, so these shortcomings are expected.

1. Its been discussed between every single leader from the 3 countries
2. it would just be an extension of NAFTA and SPP

do your research buddy, not everything is a conspiracy. This has been discussed.

[Jason Tate]

:yawn:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_currency_union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_currency_union#Amero _coins)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amerocoin.asp

[caveBEAR]

:yawn:

Agreed.

1. Its been discussed between every single leader from the 3 countries
2. it would just be an extension of NAFTA and SPP

do your research buddy, not everything is a conspiracy. This has been discussed.

Tell me exactly why an economic union between Mexico, the United States and Canada is a bad thing. By extension, what would be wrong with a shared currency?

[D' Evils]

Agreed.



Tell me exactly why an economic union between Mexico, the United States and Canada is a bad thing. By extension, what would be wrong with a shared currency?

lets see, mexico is as corrupt as they come and there economy is weak as shit. Canada would benefit way to much off it, and america would get nada out of it.

[mcm1610]

I'd be ok with a Canadian-US union, but Mexico is too dramatically different, economically, to even consider.

[CastlesXClouds]

Annoying is true, but they're not ignorant in the slightest. They're well aware of what they're doing.
They know very well what they are preaching.
However, that was not my point.

My statement was geared towards the lack of understanding they show with people of other religions (or better known to them as "satan worshipers") or homosexuals etc.. As founder Fred Phelps said, "The only true Nazis in this world are ****.".

[caveBEAR]

lets see, mexico is as corrupt as they come and there economy is weak as shit. Canada would benefit way to much off it, and america would get nada out of it.

You don't see American & Canadian interest in the stability of Mexico's economy as a possible way to help the impoverished nation?

[Nevuk]

They know very well what they are preaching.
However, that was not my point.

My statement was geared towards the lack of understanding they show with people of other religions (or better known to them as "satan worshipers") or homosexuals etc.. As founder Fred Phelps said, "The only true Nazis in this world are ****.".
That's not ignorance. It's slander.

[crackedthesky]

1. Its been discussed between every single leader from the 3 countries
2. it would just be an extension of NAFTA and SPP

do your research buddy, not everything is a conspiracy. This has been discussed.

You realize you can't just say things and they're automatically true just because you said them, right?

Bonus: Can you even name the leaders of Mexico or Canada, off the top of your head? Hell, at this point, I would be surprised if you know who the current President is.

[CastlesXClouds]

That's not ignorance. It's slander.
Thinking Catholics, Jews, and Muslims are satan woshipers isn't ignorant?

[Machu505]

Thinking Catholics, Jews, and Muslims are satan woshipers isn't ignorant? I think in that context Phelps doesn't literally believe that those groups worship Satan. Since Satan worshiping is generally looked down upon, he's using it to convey what he sees as the evil and invalidity of their beliefs.

[CastlesXClouds]

I think in that context Phelps doesn't literally believe that those groups worship Satan. Since Satan worshiping is generally looked down upon, he's using it to convey what he sees as the evil and invalidity of their beliefs.
Don't really understand the ladder half of your statement.

[Jason Tate]

http://www.getyourlifebackfromme.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/ladder-into-the-sky1.jpg

[Machu505]

Don't really understand the ladder half of your statement. If you said, "George W. Bush is an asshole." you're not trying to say that he's literally an anus. Asshole in this context doesn't mean "anus", it means "jerk". "Satan worshiper" doesn't mean "Satanist", it means "bad person".

[loveisdead]

:lol:@ladder. That is gold. Not as bad as when mht said "pre-Madonna" though.

[CastlesXClouds]

http://www.getyourlifebackfromme.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/ladder-into-the-sky1.jpg
dude i feel really fucking dumb after that.

[CastlesXClouds]

:lol:@ladder. That is gold. Not as bad as when mht said "pre-Madonna" though.
i cant even defend myself on that.

[Jason Tate]

dude i feel really fucking dumb after that.
Hahaha - I didn't mean it as an ass either, I have done similar things -- it was funny.

[CastlesXClouds]

If you said, "George W. Bush is an asshole." you're not trying to say that he's literally an anus. Asshole in this context doesn't mean "anus", it means "jerk". "Satan worshiper" doesn't mean "Satanist", it means "bad person".
oh, i got you.

[Mibabalou]

You realize you can't just say things and they're automatically true just because you said them, right?

Bonus: Can you even name the leaders of Mexico or Canada, off the top of your head? Hell, at this point, I would be surprised if you know who the current President is.

Jesusaurausrex

[Machu505]

oh, i got you. Fred Phelps is actually a genuinely smart man. He just happens to be fucking crazy. I've been to a WBC protest; those people are the stupid ones.

[CastlesXClouds]

Fred Phelps is actually a genuinely smart man. He just happens to be fucking crazy. I've been to a WBC protest; those people are the stupid ones.
That goes without saying haha

Uh why were you at a WBC protest?

[Machu505]

That goes without saying haha

Uh why were you at a WBC protest? Counter-protest. They were shouting generally offensive garbage at a cathedral in Charleston. So we sang songs.

[CastlesXClouds]

Counter-protest. They were shouting generally offensive garbage at a cathedral in Charleston. So we sang songs.
thats pretty awesome. what ended up happening?

[Machu505]

thats pretty awesome. what ended up happening? They proved that they can pile in a van really quickly.

[CastlesXClouds]

They proved that they can pile in a van really quickly.
Did it go down like this?
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