Tom Foolrey for President

[Patrick]

Dear America, my name is Tom Foolery and I should be your president. Why? Quite honestly, I don't think there's been a president worth electing since good old Abe Lincoln. I mean, you even elected George W. Bush, the man who would rather be called King George II, Grand Imperial Wizard of America. That being said, I'm going to part ways with standard political mud-slinging and defamation and just tell you why I should be your president.

First of all, I am not an asshole. I get along with most everyone, because I'm a nice guy like that. I was at a rancid show two years ago and I saved some kid from falling and getting trampled in a particularly rowdy pit. Now apply this example on a macropolitical level. I'll be America, the guy who was falling will be third-world nations, and the rest of the pit is all the other nations of the world. Which I think makes Rancid Switzerland, since they're just there to be cool and make some music. Anyway, so while the whole world is bouncing around, some just having a good time, some being dicks and trying to hurt each other (Those would be the "hardcore" nations) I'd be in the pit keeping an eye on things. Help out the nations that need help. And try and calm down the angry nations. With words mind you.

Secondly, my vice president would be a woman. Why? There's a couple reasons. First, it's never been done before. Second, I thik having a woman with some power in this country would make a lot of sense. For the most part, they're more compassionate than men.

Third, decreased military spending. That's money that could be used for a lot of better things. Better schools, healthcare, redevelopment of neighborhoods, and various other things to benefit society. I'll come up with more as they come along.

Fourth, legal and regulated marijuana. Now calm down pot-heads, this isn't so you jackasses can smoke yourselves stupid, it's to keep the nation calm. If you're having a high-stress day, like your girlfriend cheated on you, your car got stolen, and your T.V. only gets spanish soap operas, you can just go down to the gas station and get a pack of marijuana cigarettes. I mean, tobacco and alcohol is legal, why not one more substance that's already all over America? Sure, you'll have to be 21 before you can buy it legally, but I know a lot of 16 year old cigarette smokers who always have packs, so fear not kids. Pot-heads will be told to get a damn job.

Fifth, police training would be drastically changed. In addition to all the macho combat training they recieve, they would also be taking courses in courtesy and sensitivity training. No more asshole cops.

Sixth, every weekend I'd have a big party in a different town so the people could get to know me personally and tell me their thoughts on the country. Also, I'd get a few bands from the area to come open up for a bigger band. That way, everybody is happy.

So, ladies and gentlemen of America, I thank you for your time. Remember to vote Tom Foolery in 2016. Since by law, I have to be 35 to be president. Peace.

[Greg]

how about no

[WithStamin]

Not that I'm taking you serously, but I'd like the respond critically to your points.First of all, I am not an asshole. Are you saying our current President is? Do you know him personally. I didn't think so.Secondly, my vice president would be a woman. Wow, you're special. You shouldn't buy votes by trying to look politically correct. Choose someone who is qualified. If that happens to be a woman, more power to her.Third, decreased military spending. Good idea! Leave us wide open to attack! I'll sure feel safer after you dismantle the military!Fourth, legal and regulated marijuana. Possibly your one halfway logical argument, but your reasoning is way off.Fifth, police training would be drastically changed. Cops will be who they are, it won't be changed by sensitivity training. Plus, that is not a national issue that can be dealt with by the President, so you couldn't do it.Sixth, every weekend I'd have a big party in a different town so the people could get to know me personally and tell me their thoughts on the country. Sounds like a good opportunity to get assasinated.

[Patrick]

ure a ****** and so is bush

[Patrick]

and u dont no bush personally either u cant just call him up and be like hey

[WithStamin]

Originally posted by mrs.skibahaha
First of all, I am not an asshole. I get along with most everyone, because I'm a nice guy like that.
Originally posted by mrs.skibahaha
ure a ****** and so is bush Hmm....

[NOFXdesendents5]

Originally posted by mrs.skibahaha
Dear America, my name is Tom Foolery and I should be your president. Why? Quite honestly, I don't think there's been a president worth electing since good old Abe Lincoln. I mean, you even elected George W. Bush, the man who would rather be called King George II, Grand Imperial Wizard of America. That being said, I'm going to part ways with standard political mud-slinging and defamation and just tell you why I should be your president.

I have a 25 post count


Well played.

[The Nephilm]

Originally posted by WithStamin
Good idea! Leave us wide open to attack! I'll sure feel safer after you dismantle the military!


I mean totally dude, lets go spend $100 billion on Star Wars so that our defences are unbeatable.... because there are so many trans-continental nuclear missles blowing up US cities every day that we need an impossible system designed 20 years ago to protect us...

The fact is, and I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, that if someone want's to carry out an attack on America, they are going to do it. People will die. Plain and simple. We can't do a god damn thing about it.

Oh, and going on a crusade against the muslim people isn't an alternative, no matter how badly Bush want's it to be.

[NOFXdesendents5]

Originally posted by The Nephilm
The fact is, and I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, that if someone want's to carry out an attack on America, they are going to do it. People will die. Plain and simple. We can't do a god damn thing about it.

Oh, and going on a crusade against the muslim people isn't an alternative, no matter how badly Bush want's it to be.

I agree. The United States is the only real superpower out there and no other country is going to send an organized nuclear strike against the US, so all we have to worry about is just low-powered suicide-nukers.

If an organization really wanted to nuke us, they could do so. No matter how hard we try, we won't be able to stop a man in a business suit and suitcase from walking casually into a city and detonating a bomb.

But the only thing that I don't fully agree with you on is that last part. Although people definatley can't just kill Muslims on the streets because of their beliefs, we also can't be niave and just forget it is Muslim extremists out there that are causing the attacks, not any other religion.

Sadly though, recently in my neighboring town, a pizza delivery boy was beaten and tortured because of his Muslim beliefs the other day. But instead of hearing about that on the news, I heard about Lacie Peterson. Isn't news great?

[BustaNutz]

A few things, first of all you're an idiot. Bush is probably a very nice guy, he's just not much of a leader. But I wouldn't call him an asshole or a fagot.

Second, if you have a woman as your VP, some radical feminist group will probably try and kill you, because they want a woman president, probably at one of your presidential block parties.

Third, legalized Marijuana, I'm all for it, that's fine.

Fourth, saving a kid in a Rancid pit doesn't qualify you for a presidency.

And fifth, I'd call Theodore Roosevelt and FDR pretty damn good presidential choices. Hell I'd even toss JFK in there too.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
FDR pretty damn good presidential choices.

:rolleyes:

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by mrs.skibahaha
ure a ******

one hell of an insult, jackass...............

[Patrick]

hey you guys dont no what you want but i sure as hell do and i can tell you if tom ran for president he would sure as hell when rite away

[Matthew]

Originally posted by mrs.skibahaha
hey you guys dont no what you want but i sure as hell do and i can tell you if tom ran for president he would sure as hell when rite away

i KNOW what i want, so tom would not WIN RIGHT away if he ran.

[Charlito Cafe]

Ummmmm, mrs.skibahaha makes me emabarassed to be a liberal. Seriously, if you have nothing intelligent to say, just shut the fuck up.

[BustaNutz]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
:rolleyes:

Are you kidding me? You're going to say FDR wasn't a good president?

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
Are you kidding me? You're going to say FDR wasn't a good president?

Your kidding me, your going to say he was a good president? (:))............. i wouldn't say he was the worst, but hes on that side of the list..............

[BustaNutz]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
Your kidding me, your going to say he was a good president? (:))............. i wouldn't say he was the worst, but hes on that side of the list..............

He helped pull a nation out of depression, he was elected four times and he helped us win a world war. And unlike with Bush our soldiers BELIEVED in him. My grampa was a vet, and he's cried two times in his life, when his only daughter was stillborn and when FDR died. You can't even tell me he wasn't a hell of a president.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
He helped pull a nation out of depression, he was elected four times and he helped us win a world war. And unlike with Bush our soldiers BELIEVED in him. My grampa was a vet, and he's cried two times in his life, when his only daughter was stillborn and when FDR died. You can't even tell me he wasn't a hell of a president.

first.....he didn't pull us out of the depression, wwII did........

second......i know you dont BELIEVE in bush.....but i'd say the vast majority of our soliders DO..........

and thirdly i can tell you that fdr was a bad president, even though your grandfather didn't think so.........because its all a matter of personal prefernces.............

[Patrick]

fdr was an ok president he was nothing special

[BustaNutz]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
first.....he didn't pull us out of the depression, wwII did........

second......i know you dont BELIEVE in bush.....but i'd say the vast majority of our soliders DO..........

and thirdly i can tell you that fdr was a bad president, even though your grandfather didn't think so.........because its all a matter of personal prefernces.............

I'd put him in the upper half for presidents for this country. You don't get elected four times without being a good president. Once is possible, so is twice, but four times? No, he made a good president. And I don't think our troops do believe in Bush, I think they believe in doing a duty to the nation.

[Patrick]

ya if there gonna get ordered around to be imperialistic y not do the good for it to your nation

[Matthew]

go away

[Patrick]

fuck you

[Charlito Cafe]

Fuck, it's you again.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
I'd put him in the upper half for presidents for this country. You don't get elected four times without being a good president. Once is possible, so is twice, but four times? No, he made a good president. And I don't think our troops do believe in Bush, I think they believe in doing a duty to the nation.

so i guess regan was the best, or second best, president in your book right? Because he was elected once, twice, and would have been elected for a third and probably forth term, if it wasn't against the constitution to do so...........votes dont necassarly equal greatness........and fdr was far from great............

as for the troop thing, that kind of a never ending battle, but seeing as how most troops vote conservative.......i'd say that most believe in him and what they are doing.........

[BustaNutz]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
so i guess regan was the best, or second best, president in your book right? Because he was elected once, twice, and would have been elected for a third and probably forth term, if it wasn't against the constitution to do so...........votes dont necassarly equal greatness........and fdr was far from great............

as for the troop thing, that kind of a never ending battle, but seeing as how most troops vote conservative.......i'd say that most believe in him and what they are doing.........

Please tell me how you can say he was far from great. I wouldn't call him the best, but by no stretch of the imagination was he bad. And Reagan seemed great while he was in office, but looking back, many of the decisions he made really bit us in the ass. That's why Bush 1.0 had such a tough term. And Reagan wouldn't have been invited back for a forth term, because my that point he'd have started looking bad.

[WithStamin]

Same thing with FDR. It looked like what he was doing at the time was good, but in hindsight he opened the door for all the bearucratic government programs we have today. Not to mention he let Pearl Harbor happen even though he knew it was going to happen. Man, would Bush get nailed for something like that.

[BustaNutz]

Originally posted by WithStamin
Same thing with FDR. It looked like what he was doing at the time was good, but in hindsight he opened the door for all the bearucratic government programs we have today. Not to mention he let Pearl Harbor happen even though he knew it was going to happen. Man, would Bush get nailed for something like that.

Bush lied to start a war, and no one seems to mind, well the Deomcrats do, and the world does, but the Republicans will probably still reelect this war-mongerer. FDR is considered bad for getting us into a war, that helped end a depression, and Bush is considered good for getting us into a war, and driving us further into an economic recession. I'm confused. And I never said FDR was the best, I just said he wasn't a bad president.

[BrandNewRock05]

Originally posted by mrs.skibahaha
ure a ****** and so is bush
Hey, what happened to the sensitive lefty? ****** wont help you win the presidency. So go drink some bleach you dumbass.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
Please tell me how you can say he was far from great. I wouldn't call him the best, but by no stretch of the imagination was he bad. And Reagan seemed great while he was in office, but looking back, many of the decisions he made really bit us in the ass. That's why Bush 1.0 had such a tough term. And Reagan wouldn't have been invited back for a forth term, because my that point he'd have started looking bad.

FDR might have looked good in his day, but looking back what he did caused most of the social problems we have to day.......he personal started a dependence, which has been passed down to different generations, on the government for ones own well being, and thats horrible and is far from what a government should be doing.........he started us on a socialist path and thats wrong. He also used his own personal racism to intern japanesse americans and to prohibit the destruction of railroads, gass chambers, camps, factories, ss camps......in nazis germany.......

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
Bush lied to start a war, and no one seems to mind, well the Deomcrats do, and the world does, but the Republicans will probably still reelect this war-mongerer. FDR is considered bad for getting us into a war, that helped end a depression, and Bush is considered good for getting us into a war, and driving us further into an economic recession. I'm confused. And I never said FDR was the best, I just said he wasn't a bad president.


SO did FDR.......he lied to get us into wwII........but you don't seem to mind that?.......and he was the perfect example of a "War-mongerer" is..........

and i never said FDR was the worst.......hes just on the end of the list, but its also personal preffernce............

[BustaNutz]

Wll Justin with all due respect, you're looking at it through the perspective of a more conservative individual, being a more liberal individual myself I don't think that social programs he began were neccesarily bad. In fact at the time, with the depression raging, they did A LOT of good and were needed. As for WWII, and as for whether or not he knew about Pearl Harbor, that can be debated. In all likelihood, he did, and he needed something to galvanize us. I'll be willing to bet you that someone had an idea that something like 9-11 would happen, and in a few decades a case will be made much like the one with Pearl Harbor. But I think lying to get us involved in a war is a bit much. We declared war on Japan, which was expected, but when Italy and Germany declared war on us, that's being provoked. As for reasons for entering, if you consider Saddam and Hitler to be anywhere near equal in terms of threat level, you are (and I truely mean this) an idiot. Hitler had amassed an army and was trying to conquer the world, Saddam had allegedly amassed an arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. There is a massive difference. And calling FDR a war-mongerer, well that's pretty extreme, especially considering he didn't start the war. Bush did. War-mongerers are generally regarded as people who start wars, so I tihnk that names was a little bit mis-used. I'm not saying the FDR was the best (as I've made clear) but he wasn't a war-monger (Bush is), and he wasn't a bad president.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
Wll Justin with all due respect, you're looking at it through the perspective of a more conservative individual, being a more liberal individual myself

EXACTLY.........why are you just now figureing this out........its also personal opinion.........i find him bad because i find his socialist leaning goals bad...........you find him good becuase you favor his socialist leaning goals..................

[BustaNutz]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
EXACTLY.........why are you just now figureing this out........its also personal opinion.........i find him bad because i find his socialist leaning goals bad...........you find him good becuase you favor his socialist leaning goals..................

I've known that forever, that's wh yyou're great to argue with, because all my opinions (with the exception of capital punishment) are the opposite of yours.

[BustaNutz]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
EXACTLY.........why are you just now figureing this out........its also personal opinion.........i find him bad because i find his socialist leaning goals bad...........you find him good becuase you favor his socialist leaning goals..................

I've known that forever, that's wh yyou're great to argue with, because all my opinions (with the exception of capital punishment) are the opposite of yours.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
I'll be willing to bet you that someone had an idea that something like 9-11 would happen,

As for reasons for entering, if you consider Saddam and Hitler to be anywhere near equal in terms of threat level, you are (and I truely mean this) an idiot. Hitler had amassed an army and was trying to conquer the world, Saddam had allegedly amassed an arsenal of weapons of mass destruction.


There is a massive difference. And calling FDR a war-mongerer, well that's pretty extreme, especially considering he didn't start the war. Bush did. War-mongerers are generally regarded as people who start wars, so I tihnk that names was a little bit mis-used. I'm not saying the FDR was the best (as I've made clear) but he wasn't a war-monger (Bush is), and he wasn't a bad president.

again he was a bad president, in my mind..............(i hadn't finished reading the hole post before i posted the above^)

1. Yes we knew an attack was coming......no one will disagree with thatt.

2. I never personally insulted you for favoring such a horrible president as fdr , so i dont know why you felt it right to do that to me, but what ever...........i never compared hitler to saddum, at least not in this thread, i compared the fact that you said bush lied and we should hate him for it, but favor FDR when he did the exact same thing as bush, in your opinion, did.........that is not compare saddum and hitler in any way..........

3. FDR was a warmonger in the sense that he want us in wwII at any cost and didn't give two shits whether the american people wanted it or not........and he was willing to sacrifice american lives to do so.............i understand how you can see me using this word here as a mis-uses........but i can see the same thing with the way you used it..........

[BustaNutz]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
again he was a bad president..............

1. Yes we knew an attack was coming......no one will disagree with thatt.

2. I never personally insulted you for favoring such a horrible president as fdr , so i dont know why you felt it right to do that to me, but what ever...........i never compared hitler to saddum, at least not in this thread, i compared the fact that you said bush lied and we should hate him for it, but favor FDR when he did the exact same thing as bush, in your opinion, did.........that is not compare saddum and hitler in any way..........

3. FDR was a warmonger in the sense that he want us in wwII at any cost and didn't give two shits whether the american people wanted it or not........and he was willing to sacrifice american lives to do so.............i understand how you can see me using this word here as a mis-uses........but i can see the same thing with the way you used it..........

I didn't call you a name, I said if you think that Saddam and Adolf are really similar, you're an idiot. Sorry if you misread that. And I think there is a subtle difference to what FDR and GW did. I don't think you can argue we needed to be in WWII, the outcome would have been much different had we not entered. I'm not so shure we needed to be in Iraq.

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
I didn't call you a name, I said if you think that Saddam and Adolf are really similar, you're an idiot. Sorry if you misread that. And I think there is a subtle difference to what FDR and GW did. I don't think you can argue we needed to be in WWII, the outcome would have been much different had we not entered. I'm not so shure we needed to be in Iraq.

i won't disagree that we needed to be in WWII, but only if the people supported it, and before pearl harbor we didn't, and FDR knew that............

and i understand how the iraq war and wwii are different (but a lie is a lie)..........

also while were on the issue of presidents, let me just state i dont personally think we have had a truly great president or one that is with out faults........yes some have been better then others, but none have been that great............

[Patrick]

ok first off i would like too say i did not write that, ok thats why one the subject it dosnt say vote me for president it is a very good freind off mine

[Charlito Cafe]

Originally posted by Justin_stacy
SO did FDR.......he lied to get us into wwII........but you don't seem to mind that?.......and he was the perfect example of a "War-mongerer" is..........

and i never said FDR was the worst.......hes just on the end of the list, but its also personal preffernce............

So you concede that Bush lied to get us into Iraq? How very un-conservative of you....

[Justin_stacy]

Originally posted by Charlito Cafe
So you concede that Bush lied to get us into Iraq? How very un-conservative of you....
first im very "un-conservative"....................second it was busta that deciede bush lied not me..........i just brought up the fact that if bush is a liar and there fore evil, FDR is the same, for they both did the samething, at least in busta mind.............