Irony

[the_champ_is_here]

When people post some of the most hateful, ignorant comments I've ever seen, calling the NBA the N*gger Basketball Association, or Nothing but Africans and shit like that, over one fight, saying they should all be hung and it's the product of Rap-culture's influence on America, when they completely ignore the fact that the far and away most violent sport in America is Hockey.


And how many black people play hockey? Seriously.

[notoaststereo]

whats the point of this thread? to bash hockey?

[the_champ_is_here]

whats the point of this thread? to bash hockey?

It was to create a discussion about racism in sports, especially amongst sports fan. It has noting to do with the sport of hockey. It just kind of makes me sick when I see people go apeshit over black basketball players doing something that happens all the time in other sports, don't even get me started on Soccer fans.

[thejetstolehome]

i wanna know why baseball is so unpopular among young black kids. :shrug:

[DaveFeelsRight]

i wanna know why baseball is so unpopular among young black kids. :shrug:they find it boring

[thejetstolehome]

they find it boring

yea i guess that's it. i know they've done a few OTLs on it.

[notoaststereo]

they find it boring

i find it boring :shrug:

i only really like football.

[the_champ_is_here]

i wanna know why baseball is so unpopular among young black kids. :shrug:

Because the only black "Superstar" left is all hopped up on HGH?

Seriously, I coach little league, and it's kind of shitty, because I remember when I played there were way more black kids that tried out, maybe it really did have something to do with Griffey being larger than life at the time. Also, with more and more kids playing summer leagues for different sports (AAU basketball, flag football and such) I've noticed that baseball as a sport is declining in popularity amongst all races, one team only had 12 kids last year because some veterans quit to play travel basketball.

[mikeford]

yo gay

[Broken Parachute]

How about you just shut up. The NBA is full of punks, black or white it doesn't matter. That's just how it is.

[the_champ_is_here]

How about you just shut up. The NBA is full of punks, black or white it doesn't matter. That's just how it is.

No, it isn't. Thanks for your brilliant input though.

[Broken Parachute]

No, it isn't. Thanks for your brilliant input though.Your welcome.

Believe what you want, but the NBA is filled with punkass kids who can't learn to control themselves.

[the_champ_is_here]

Your welcome.

Believe what you want, but the NBA is filled with punkass kids who can't learn to control themselves.

No more than any other sport.

[Broken Parachute]

No more than any other sport.
Actually, more than most sports.

[xbrokendownx]

this thread is fuckin gay

[Vincewithouthee]

What the fuck? Wow.

[Broken Parachute]

I wish people who don't post here normall would just never come in here.

[the_champ_is_here]

Actually, more than most sports.

I'd say other than Golf and Tennis, there's just as much violence in pretty much every other sport in America, it just doesn't get blown up as much as it does as with Basketball. Seriously, everytime someone throws at somebody in baseball, nobody gets bent out of shape. But if you're gonna say a 90+ mph fastball thrown at somebody with the sole intention of hitting someone isn't fucked up and violent, you're just retarded. I would personally rather take a cheap slap than a fastball to the head everytime, but nobody says anything because it's "apart of the game" and even sometimes strategic.

There's more cheap shots and dirty hits in football than anyone who's not on the field will ever see, just because it's easy to get lost in the scuffle. But as one of the main selling points of football is the physical contact, people tend to not look as hard at it.

I could go on and on (Have you ever gone to a Lacrosse house-party, those kids are all fucking nuts)
but the fact is that Basketball gets a bad rap for no good reason. Sure there's a few bad seeds, but people never talk about the Gilbert Arenas's (who's giving 100$ to DC-area schools for every point he scores at home this year, that's serious cash) and the other players in the NBA who are some of the best role-models in sports.

[xbrokendownx]

hey champ



go be "here" somewhere else

[xbrokendownx]

I'd say other than Golf and Tennis, there's just as much violence in pretty much every other sport in America, it just doesn't get blown up as much as it does as with Basketball. Seriously, everytime someone throws at somebody in baseball, nobody gets bent out of shape. But if you're gonna say a 90+ mph fastball thrown at somebody with the sole intention of hitting someone isn't fucked up and violent, you're just retarded. I would personally rather take a cheap slap than a fastball to the head everytime, but nobody says anything because it's "apart of the game" and even sometimes strategic.

There's more cheap shots and dirty hits in football than anyone who's not on the field will ever see, just because it's easy to get lost in the scuffle. But as one of the main selling points of football is the physical contact, people tend to not look as hard at it.

I could go on and on (Have you ever gone to a Lacrosse house-party, those kids are all fucking nuts)
but the fact is that Basketball gets a bad rap for no good reason. Sure there's a few bad seeds, but people never talk about the Gilbert Arenas's (who's giving 100$ to DC-area schools for every point he scores at home this year, that's serious cash) and the other players in the NBA who are some of the best role-models in sports.








yeah youre right. the NFL didnt play up reggie bush, joe horn, etc helping out the katrina victims


carmelo anthony isnt in a national commercial where hes building a basketball center for kids to play in

they never talk about how guys like lebron james, yao ming, etc just rent out stores and buy all the kids that wait in line gear



seriously do you even watch sports? get the fuck outta here

[Broken Parachute]

I'd say other than Golf and Tennis, there's just as much violence in pretty much every other sport in America, it just doesn't get blown up as much as it does as with Basketball. Seriously, everytime someone throws at somebody in baseball, nobody gets bent out of shape. But if you're gonna say a 90+ mph fastball thrown at somebody with the sole intention of hitting someone isn't fucked up and violent, you're just retarded. I would personally rather take a cheap slap than a fastball to the head everytime, but nobody says anything because it's "apart of the game" and even sometimes strategic.

There's more cheap shots and dirty hits in football than anyone who's not on the field will ever see, just because it's easy to get lost in the scuffle. But as one of the main selling points of football is the physical contact, people tend to not look as hard at it.

I could go on and on (Have you ever gone to a Lacrosse house-party, those kids are all fucking nuts)
but the fact is that Basketball gets a bad rap for no good reason. Sure there's a few bad seeds, but people never talk about the Gilbert Arenas's (who's giving 100$ to DC-area schools for every point he scores at home this year, that's serious cash) and the other players in the NBA who are some of the best role-models in sports.
Baseball: hitting batters is part of the game. It's a sick part of the game..but it's expected to send a message. Football/Hockey/Lacrosse: Big hits send the message, it's the only way to get attention. In basketball, the only way to send a message is a hard foul..but that always turns into a fist fight which is not part of the NBA. In football and lacrosse, skrimishes happen sometimes. In baseball, nobody gets bent out of shape about a hit better, they just complain..no physicality usually, in hockey fighting is part of the game, it's allowed. In basketball, there's supposed to be zero fighting. Skrimishes also happen, but when you flat out throw a right hook at a guy..that's a bitchass move. The NBA is filled with punks who can't control themselves, end of story. Every sport is filled with them..but the NBA has the most.

And as far as role models, they could do whatever they want for their image (charities, commercials, etc.)...it's what they do on the court as far as respect to others that they are judged by. Just because they give to charities doesn't mean they can throw down on the court.

[the_champ_is_here]

hey champ



go be "here" somewhere else

Hey (I'm sorry I don't know how to make a witty pun with your name, I can't pronounce X's so that really kills the joke I was going to make, but let's pretend I did, and it ruled, and then somebody actually said something that pertains to anything I said.)

[Mike Kraft]

wouldn't the most violent sport be boxing? :shrug:

[the_champ_is_here]

Baseball: hitting batters is part of the game. It's a sick part of the game..but it's expected to send a message. Football/Hockey/Lacrosse: Big hits send the message, it's the only way to get attention. In basketball, the only way to send a message is a hard foul..but that always turns into a fist fight which is not part of the NBA. In football and lacrosse, skrimishes happen sometimes. In baseball, nobody gets bent out of shape about a hit better, they just complain..no physicality usually, in hockey fighting is part of the game, it's allowed. In basketball, there's supposed to be zero fighting. Skrimishes also happen, but when you flat out throw a right hook at a guy..that's a bitchass move. The NBA is filled with punks who can't control themselves, end of story. Every sport is filled with them..but the NBA has the most.

And as far as role models, they could do whatever they want for their image (charities, commercials, etc.)...it's what they do on the court as far as respect to others that they are judged by. Just because they give to charities doesn't mean they can throw down on the court.

There's "supposed" to be zero-fighting in every other sport, it just gets lost in the gray area.
Like stomping on someone with a cleat, that's a bitch-ass move, sliding in spikes up, that's a bitch ass move, making a really flagrant slash, that's a bitchass move. And to say nobody hets bent out oh shape over a hit batter, look at Piazza-Clemens.



But thanks for the serious response. It's funny, I made this same thread on my fantasy forum and there was an actual discussion. That's kind of sad because we only have 12 people over there.

[thejetstolehome]

There's "supposed" to be zero-fighting in every other sport, it just gets lost in the gray area.
Like stomping on someone with a cleat, that's a bitch-ass move, sliding in spikes up, that's a bitch ass move, making a really flagrant slash, that's a bitchass move. And to say nobody hets bent out oh shape over a hit batter, look at Piazza-Clemens.



But thanks for the serious response. It's funny, I made this same thread on my fantasy forum and there was an actual discussion. That's kind of sad because we only have 12 people over there.

actually, that wasn't a hit by pitch. that was a foul ball. nice try.

[the_champ_is_here]

actually, that wasn't a hit by pitch. that was a foul ball. nice try.

So Clemens didn't hit Piazza in July of 2000? Really? Seriously?

Nice try

[thejetstolehome]

So Clemens didn't hit Piazza in July of 2000? Really? Seriously?

Nice try

i thought you were referring to the world series. my bad.

[xbrokendownx]

so are you just gonna ignore my post champ?

[the_champ_is_here]

yeah youre right. the NFL didnt play up reggie bush, joe horn, etc helping out the katrina victims


carmelo anthony isnt in a national commercial where hes building a basketball center for kids to play in

they never talk about how guys like lebron james, yao ming, etc just rent out stores and buy all the kids that wait in line gear



seriously do you even watch sports? get the fuck outta here

I'll field the first question last, do I seriously even watch sports? No, I watch them in jest.

As for the rest of the shit you just said, it doesn't really have anything to do with anything I said, but that's okay, we can work through this together. The NFL of course played up the Hurricane Katrina tragedy, even I got a little emotional when they returned to the Super-dome.

So did every other sport, media outlet, store, school, government and hospital everywhere.

And every sport markets there players to look more like role-models than they actually are, that's why it's called Marketing. Maybe the other major professional leagues are just better at it than the NBA. And I hear more about basketball players doing things like that, which is selfish and completely uncharitable and frankly just plain out wrong.

But seriously, when did I say the NBA is full of angels? Quote that for me, please. All I ever said is there is as much ego in other professional sports than basketball and it gets a raw deal.

[xbrokendownx]

no, it doesnt get a raw deal. you cant really sugar coat sayyyy stephen jackson shooting a gun of 3 times or whatever it was


i just gave you plenty of examples of players doing good things. but when they do stupid ass shit, theyre gonna get called out for it

[the_champ_is_here]

no, it doesnt get a raw deal. you cant really sugar coat sayyyy stephen jackson shooting a gun of 3 times or whatever it was


i just gave you plenty of examples of players doing good things. but when they do stupid ass shit, theyre gonna get called out for it

How many players on the Bengals got arrested this year, 8? That's kind of ridiculous. But that doesn't say ANYTHING about the other 57 guys on the roster, or about anybody else in the NFL.

Which is exactly my point. People do stupid shit in every sport, but as a LEAGUE, the NBA takes way more shit for what it's players do.

[wessa]

wow, this guy is way off base.

As for hockey which he seems to want to continuosly attack, i am a huge fan but i hate the fighting aspect. I will say though that it is controlled, they are seperated by plexiglass walls, also when two guys square off, the other guys just stand and watch them, in basketball its like a big gang fight with everyone going off at everybody.

And this guy started talking about black/white, well please explain to me why in these fights in basketball its always thug black guys swinging and the white guys are trying to pull everyone apart (croshere from the artest fight and najera from the other night), the answer is because these guys are thugs from ghetto who learned nothing growing up besides playing basketball, they have no way to control themselves and that's why things like this happen

[the_champ_is_here]

wow, this guy is way off base.

As for hockey which he seems to want to continuosly attack, i am a huge fan but i hate the fighting aspect. I will say though that it is controlled, they are seperated by plexiglass walls, also when two guys square off, the other guys just stand and watch them, in basketball its like a big gang fight with everyone going off at everybody.

And this guy started talking about black/white, well please explain to me why in these fights in basketball its always thug black guys swinging and the white guys are trying to pull everyone apart (croshere from the artest fight and najera from the other night), the answer is because these guys are thugs from ghetto who learned nothing growing up besides playing basketball, they have no way to control themselves and that's why things like this happen

Do you know what continuously means? Because I only mentioned hockey once.

And that's a really ingorant thing to say, and I don't think I'd be off-base in calling you a racist. But I won't. Although it'd be really easy.

[tambo41187]

speaking of ignorance, this thread should be deleted.

[wessa]

yeah, i must be a racist, not liked my roomate in college for four years was a black guy from maryland, your right, i hate black people, oh and you must also be right considering i teach fifth grade in brooklyn and my class is 90% black and hispanic, i just dont teach those kids, i only teach my caucasian kids cause im a huuggeee racist

saying that i hate black guys who act like street thugs does not make me a racist, i hate white guys who act like street thugs, i probably hate jason williams more than any other player in the league, but dont you dare call me ignorant, am i wrong about them acting like dirtbags? did robinson not go after everyone like an animal? these guys need to control their emotions

[Spicoli hey bud]

Irony is for Suckers

Sucker.

[tambo41187]

when was the last time the nhl commissioner had to ask his players to leave their guns at home?

[wessa]

when was the last time the nhl commissioner had to ask his players to leave their guns at home?

hahaha

[Doug]

honestly, this kid pretty much makes a good point. you think of basketball players as punks. and yes it does have a lot to do with the fact that a lot of players are black gangsta type dudes. but, there is less fighting in basketball than most other sports. it's not part of the game, so it shouldn't happen. but seroiusly, fighting isn't part of baseball and when a batter charges the mound, it isn't called "sickening," unless joe buck is announcing. it's a sport with grown men playing, once a year or once every couple years, there's gonna be a fight, it's only such a big deal because it never happens. we've grown to accept the fact that there is fighting in hockey, that players will charge the mound in baseball and that there might be a "scrum" every once in a while with football players. but as soon as someone like carmelo anthony bitch slaps someone, it's sickening.

[jaimej]

I don't think you guys were getting the point of this thread. He's not trying to bash hockey at all, it's just that people are blowing shit up (like that fight last night which was on sportscenter on repeat, so annoying) about how racist people can be when things like this occur. That it wouldn't have been as big of a big deal if the players were white and playing another sport, using hockey as an example.

[Doug]

i'm not arguing that basketball players aren't punks, cause they definately are. but the media makes way too big of a deal out of basketball fights.

[the_champ_is_here]

honestly, this kid pretty much makes a good point. you think of basketball players as punks. and yes it does have a lot to do with the fact that a lot of players are black gangsta type dudes. but, there is less fighting in basketball than most other sports. it's not part of the game, so it shouldn't happen. but seroiusly, fighting isn't part of baseball and when a batter charges the mound, it isn't called "sickening," unless joe buck is announcing. it's a sport with grown men playing, once a year or once every couple years, there's gonna be a fight, it's only such a big deal because it never happens. we've grown to accept the fact that there is fighting in hockey, that players will charge the mound in baseball and that there might be a "scrum" every once in a while with football players. but as soon as someone like carmelo anthony bitch slaps someone, it's sickening.

exactly

[jaimej]

honestly, this kid pretty much makes a good point. you think of basketball players as punks. and yes it does have a lot to do with the fact that a lot of players are black gangsta type dudes. but, there is less fighting in basketball than most other sports. it's not part of the game, so it shouldn't happen. but seroiusly, fighting isn't part of baseball and when a batter charges the mound, it isn't called "sickening," unless joe buck is announcing. it's a sport with grown men playing, once a year or once every couple years, there's gonna be a fight, it's only such a big deal because it never happens. we've grown to accept the fact that there is fighting in hockey, that players will charge the mound in baseball and that there might be a "scrum" every once in a while with football players. but as soon as someone like carmelo anthony bitch slaps someone, it's sickening.
I'm glad somebody else gets it. I was being to lose faith in the community here.

[Spicoli hey bud]

honestly, this kid pretty much makes a good point. you think of basketball players as punks. and yes it does have a lot to do with the fact that a lot of players are black gangsta type dudes. but, there is less fighting in basketball than most other sports. it's not part of the game, so it shouldn't happen. but seroiusly, fighting isn't part of baseball and when a batter charges the mound, it isn't called "sickening," unless joe buck is announcing. it's a sport with grown men playing, once a year or once every couple years, there's gonna be a fight, it's only such a big deal because it never happens. we've grown to accept the fact that there is fighting in hockey, that players will charge the mound in baseball and that there might be a "scrum" every once in a while with football players. but as soon as someone like carmelo anthony bitch slaps someone, it's sickening.
haha. and yep.

[wessa]

honestly, this kid pretty much makes a good point. you think of basketball players as punks. and yes it does have a lot to do with the fact that a lot of players are black gangsta type dudes. but, there is less fighting in basketball than most other sports. it's not part of the game, so it shouldn't happen. but seroiusly, fighting isn't part of baseball and when a batter charges the mound, it isn't called "sickening," unless joe buck is announcing. it's a sport with grown men playing, once a year or once every couple years, there's gonna be a fight, it's only such a big deal because it never happens. we've grown to accept the fact that there is fighting in hockey, that players will charge the mound in baseball and that there might be a "scrum" every once in a while with football players. but as soon as someone like carmelo anthony bitch slaps someone, it's sickening.

i understand that, but like i mentioned with hockey, the biggest difference between basketball is that the fans are not seperated from the action and because of these violent outbursts, players are going into the stands with no regard for the fans who are in attendance, basketball players are huge and could significantly hurt someone in the stands.

[tambo41187]

i think the kid does have a point, the first thing i thought of when i saw the fight was how much shit the nba would get for this. when i thought of arguing the kid i thought of when was the last time an nhl player fought a fan..o wait hello tie domi. and certinaly cheap shots are a commen place in hockey, esp for some teams/players.

but why single out the nhl? violence is an accepted and traditonal part of hockey, checking and fighting are things that are natural to a hockey game. this is not the same as in the nba. so when a fight does happen in the nba its always going to get more press, and deservedly so, its not part of their game.

[Doug]

i understand that, but like i mentioned with hockey, the biggest difference between basketball is that the fans are not seperated from the action and because of these violent outbursts, players are going into the stands with no regard for the fans who are in attendance, basketball players are huge and could significantly hurt someone in the stands.

yeah, but because that happened once or twice, every fight has to be compared to it, whether players go in the stands or not

[Broken Parachute]

I'd say the Fight at the Palace was kind of a big deal.

[LeftWideOpen]

i still dont get what the big deal about this fight was? If people didnt pay attention to sportscenter, espn.com, etc. then they would have seen the highlights on the news, thought it was crazy/hilarious and not thought twice of it.

espn is trying to blow this out of proportion because thats what they do these days with everything, and i dont think race means anything in it. i think if brian scalabrine and chris kaman went at it like this and wally came in w/ a cheapshot ...espn would still be doing this. i think it has to do a lot more with the way espn reports these days, compared to it being an issue of race.

[wessa]

I don't think you guys were getting the point of this thread. He's not trying to bash hockey at all, it's just that people are blowing shit up (like that fight last night which was on sportscenter on repeat, so annoying) about how racist people can be when things like this occur. That it wouldn't have been as big of a big deal if the players were white and playing another sport, using hockey as an example.

it should be blown up, this is a big deal, carmelo anthony is one of the sports most prominent figures, what kind of message is he sending if he is the one throwing punches? it is also a big deal because of the artest fight, that changed everything, this is the most significant altercation since that night, that is why there is so much scrutiny of basketball

[Broken Parachute]

i still dont get what the big deal about this fight was? If people didnt pay attention to sportscenter, espn.com, etc. then they would have seen the highlights on the news, thought it was crazy/hilarious and not thought twice of it.

espn is trying to blow this out of proportion because thats what they do these days with everything, and i dont think race means anything in it. i think if brian scalabrine and chris kaman went at it like this and wally came in w/ a cheapshot ...espn would still be doing this. i think it has to do a lot more with the way espn reports these days, compared to it being an issue of race.
hahahahaha I know that was serious, but I laughed when I read that. Good point, though. It's true. When I said that the NBA is full of a punks, I wasn't singling out black people. ESPN just blows everything out of proportion, they have nothing better to do.

[LeftWideOpen]

and wessa makes a great point of how carmelo's stature blew this whole thing out of proportion. this was a giant scrum and all thats being talked about is his one punch.

moral of the story: they fucked up. suspend them for a game or two because there needs to be some form of punishment ..but leave it at that. politics and sports dont mix well.

[Doug]

i still dont get what the big deal about this fight was? If people didnt pay attention to sportscenter, espn.com, etc. then they would have seen the highlights on the news, thought it was crazy/hilarious and not thought twice of it.

espn is trying to blow this out of proportion because thats what they do these days with everything, and i dont think race means anything in it. i think if brian scalabrine and chris kaman went at it like this and wally came in w/ a cheapshot ...espn would still be doing this. i think it has to do a lot more with the way espn reports these days, compared to it being an issue of race.


honestly, i hate to play the race card, but i disagree. i think if the fight was between three white dudes this wouldn't be a "disgusting" act. and i'm not sure why, but that's just how it is. i think people compare these fights to gang violence when they happen in the nba, and that's why it's considered "disgusting." if this was a fight between three white dudes, it would be a big deal, but it wouldn't be featured as the espn.com poll question.

[jaimej]

honestly, i hate to play the race card, but i disagree. i think if the fight was between three white dudes this wouldn't be a "disgusting" act. and i'm not sure why, but that's just how it is. i think people compare these fights to gang violence when they happen in the nba, and that's why it's considered "disgusting." if this was a fight between three white dudes, it would be a big deal, but it wouldn't be featured as the espn.com poll question.
Pretty much the point I was trying to get across on the previous page.

[LeftWideOpen]

eh, when it comes to sports ..i dont think race is much of an issue in reporting.

todd bertuzzi
marty mcsorley

two white hockey players who were crucified by the public for violent acts during a game. the meda latches onto violence moreso than race, in my mind.

[Doug]

eh, when it comes to sports ..i dont think race is much of an issue in reporting.

todd bertuzzi
marty mcsorley

two white hockey players who were crucified by the public for violent acts during a game. the meda latches onto violence moreso than race, in my mind.

yeah, but but those weren't even fucking close to anything that's happened in basketball games lately. like, you're comparing slamming a dude's face into the ice and hitting someone in the back of the head with a stick to a cheap slap/punch

[the_champ_is_here]

eh, when it comes to sports ..i dont think race is much of an issue in reporting.

todd bertuzzi
marty mcsorley

two white hockey players who were crucified by the public for violent acts during a game. the meda latches onto violence moreso than race, in my mind.

That's true, but those were both incredibly malicious attacks that led to serious injury, (If you're talking about Brashear) and McSorley got his ass beat afterwards. And it's not all black people, look at Christain Laettner, nobody will ever let the "stomp" go.

[Broken Parachute]

eh, when it comes to sports ..i dont think race is much of an issue in reporting.

todd bertuzzi
marty mcsorley

two white hockey players who were crucified by the public for violent acts during a game. the meda latches onto violence moreso than race, in my mind.
Yeah, that's true...but Moore got his neck broken, so it was a little more serious than this fight. I agree with you though, it's more about the maliciousness of the attack than the color of their skin.

[Doug]

Yeah, that's true...but Moore got his neck broken, so it was a little more serious than this fight. I agree with you though, it's more about the maliciousness of the attack than the color of their skin.

obviously not. what was malicious about the nuggets/knicks fight? an open hand slap?

you're comparing breaking someone's neck to an open hand smack, saying they've gotten the same reaction from the media, and are then arguing that it's not about race. are you fucking kidding me?

[wessa]

honestly, i hate to play the race card, but i disagree. i think if the fight was between three white dudes this wouldn't be a "disgusting" act. and i'm not sure why, but that's just how it is. i think people compare these fights to gang violence when they happen in the nba, and that's why it's considered "disgusting." if this was a fight between three white dudes, it would be a big deal, but it wouldn't be featured as the espn.com poll question.

your exactly right that the fights are compared to gang violence, the players bring that on themselves by the way they act, you may not like that im saying that but it is absolutely right

[Broken Parachute]

obviously not. what was malicious about the nuggets/knicks fight? an open hand slap?
No no no. My comment was totally messed up. I was trying to get the right way to phrase it, and obviously I did a poor job.

Yeah, that's true...but Moore got his neck broken, so it was a little more serious than this fight. I agree with you though, it's more about the maliciousness of the attack than the color of their skin.

That bolded part was OBVIOUSLY a mistake. A broken neck is WAY more serious than this fight.

I was just agreeing with him that I think the media usually focuses more on the maliciousness of the attack than race. In this case, I think it was just that it was only the second time an incident like this has happened since the Palace incident.

I swear, I'm not paying much attention when I posted it anyway..I'm watching the Rangers/Devils game. Ignore my comment.

[Broken Parachute]

you're comparing breaking someone's neck to an open hand smack, saying they've gotten the same reaction from the media, and are then arguing that it's not about race. are you fucking kidding me?Who compared them? I just said that it was more serious than the Knicks/Nuggets fight because of the broken neck. Why would I compare a broken neck and a hand slap? I was saying that ESPN focuses on stupid things lately. And I still don't believe race has anything to do with this. It was a fight, it's gonna get attention. Like LWO said..if David Lee had thrown a punch instead of Carmelo, he would have gotten the same treatment.

[justinevans]

the most violent sport in sports is football.

in the world it is futbol or rugby. shut up.

[livethesounds]

How about you just shut up. The NBA is full of punks, black or white it doesn't matter. That's just how it is.

When people post some of the most hateful, ignorant comments I've ever seen, calling the NBA the N*gger Basketball Association, or Nothing but Africans and shit like that, over one fight, saying they should all be hung and it's the product of Rap-culture's influence on America, when they completely ignore the fact that the far and away most violent sport in America is Hockey.


And how many black people play hockey? Seriously.

i dont think your comparison to hockey is right, but if people are clearly being racist then that fucked up. the nba is not all about that, but there are players like that in every sport.

[zizou1790]

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