Bloc Party Not Buying Into The Circus

[Steve Henderson]

Bloc Party is apparently not impressed (http://tinyurl.com/y8tmmz) with Panic! at the Disco after their recent tour dates together. Drummer Matt Tong said, "I couldn't make an accurate summation [about Panic] based on the three-minute conversation I had with the lead singer [Brendon Urie]. But to me, there should always be an inherent difference between playing music and expressing yourself without considering business factors, and the music becoming a means to an end and not being to entertain people or attain some sense of creative self-worth. You know, to be a rung in the ladder...of a business empire."

[doomcrs04]

Ha. Yes excessive behavior wtf? who takes mutilple arcade machines as part of their rider. or has 2 rooms. Goddamn they are no JLo's

[yanggoh]

i dislike "panic!" even more now. this resentment is closing in on hatred, but not quite there yet.

[BrokenWindow]

I really can't see how people dont think Panic are stuck so far up their own asses, its ridiculous. The fame went straight to their heads.

I appreciate these guys about 10x more now than I did before. Can't wait for that record boys!

[ESundy36]

I cannot stand Panic, I was dissapointed to see Bloc Party on the bill for this tour but I am no longer worried.

[Beej 347]

panic has there heads shoved so far up there own asses...it isnt even funny. they dont give a shit about consistency or thier stage performance. all they care about now is how "cool" they make thier stage set-up look. i fucking hate them.

[Beej 347]

p.s. bloc party, jack's mannequin and plain white t's deserve a better, more respectable band to tour with than these arrogant pieces of shit.

[aminorthreat55]

I can't stand Panic! and what they represent.

[takingbackNJ]

i<3bloc party

[mikedumapias]

agreed with everyone above me.

i mean cmon, they have one fuckin record and a boxed set...of the same record. i used to love panic, but fuckin they have not released one god damned new song since their only record came out last year.

they focus waaaay too much on their image and not enough on actually making music.

-miked.

[mikedumapias]

oh yea and bloc party rules even more now.

-miked.

[Chris Fallon]

Their arrogance has really gotten to me. I don't even like seeing their faces anymore, because you can just tell how much they've all changed since they first signed to Decaydance.

[bass ampss]

Do they even write their own lyrics?

[Beej 347]

Do they even write their own lyrics?


yes, ryan ross (guitar) writes them, but they still suck

[dukeboy1986]

I wonder if the Bloc Party will tour over here, that should be really exciting.

[VAYA]

hello, has anyone heard the new bloc party? can you say suckfest?

like they have any room to say that

[CalmerThanYou]

MTV's site has so many popups and bs, the article won't even load up. Here is where the article ends on my screen:


And needless to say, things didn't go too well, as Bloc Party lasted just three dates on the tour before dropping off so drummer Matt Tong could recuperate from a

[Beej 347]

MTV's site has so many popups and bs, the article won't even load up. Here is where the article ends on my screen:


And needless to say, things didn't go too well, as Bloc Party lasted just three dates on the tour before dropping off so drummer Matt Tong could recuperate from a


collapsed lung

[CalmerThanYou]

So, I haven't seen the whole article, but if the premise of the bitch session is that Brandon Urie didn't pal up with the guy like he would have hoped, well too frickin bad. Man up, and quit yer bitchin'. You're not the center of Panic's universe, and, oh well, your opportunity didn't pan out. Way to hang in there for three whole shows.

Go catch your own wave. Good luck to us all. You included.

[betal]

its bloc partys own fault for touring with them, i guess i cant blame them for trying to influence good music on people that wont really appreciate it.....but you should be able to see that coming

[jetsto]

I've always been "not impressed" with p!atd....

[cvickrun]

i really like panics music but that whole circus thing is ridiculous.

[obemyescapex]

i used to love panic when they first started...now im over it. really done with it. they just arent the same. they really have let the fame get to their heads...theyre gonna end up sellout like green day and cartel. sad. i think mtv plays a big part in blowing their fame up. thats why i refuse to watch that channel. bloc party on the other hand. pwns anyone

[SoDakValerie]

I met Brendon when Panic was the first band on last years Nintendo fusion tour. He stood & talked to me and my friend for an hour outside.
That being said, that was a LONG time ago (a little over a year). It wouldn't surprise me if he was a total prick now. But if he is, it makes me kinda sad. Because he was real nice.
Also, I don't mind Bloc Party. But they didn't really seem to fit with Panic, Plain White T's, or Jack's Mannequin to me.

[Neptune]

who cares? love them or hate them, it gives this band attention. if you all just forgot about them, they would stop being in the news, and eventually just go away. 3 years from now they will all be broke alcoholics in trouble for tax evasion, so just think about that and let them enjoy their "success"

[CalmerThanYou]

I don't care for self righteous sanctimonious pricks cappin' on some other band in an effort to make themselves look good. Yeah sure, buddy, your aim is true, and the only reason you aren't more famous is because of how pure you are.

As for how nice Brandon is, I don't know. But judging him as not nice because he doesn't have an hour to talk to you, because hundreds of other people also want an hour with him now, is unfair.

[Prestonxsmith]

I just saw an interview with them about a year ago. It was when they still had Brent. They seemed nice. Then I watched an interview with them about 3 weeks ago. They seemed like assholes

[Jamais_vu]

Bloc party > a pile of horse shit > panic at the disco.

[Aileen]

two weeks on the panic tour and i didn't converse with a single member of the band, not even a hello. then again, i spent most of my time working in the merch truck or hiding in my bunk watching grey's anatomy. there's a lot more going on behind the scenes of a fairly large arena tour, like the one panic just did, than just what meets the eye. there's so much crew that the band hardly needs to put on their own pants. and for the record, everyone in the crew/production was friendly and professional. but i'm not gonna lie and say those were the best days of my life.

[Prestonxsmith]

i used to love panic when they first started...now im over it. really done with it. they just arent the same. they really have let the fame get to their heads...theyre gonna end up sellout like green day and cartel. sad. i think mtv plays a big part in blowing their fame up. thats why i refuse to watch that channel. bloc party on the other hand. pwns anyone
Since when did Cartel sell-out. And Green Day have been big since Dookie.

[neo506]

Its pretty damn bad when bands you tour with shit talk you to the media

[sdbrown]

I was watching this celebrity playlist thing on Fuse where bands picked thier top 5 fav. videos and Panic! picked thier own damn video for the number one spot. I don't even know where to begin with that...

[Shatter_Glass]

i used to love panic when they first started...now im over it. really done with it. they just arent the same. they really have let the fame get to their heads...theyre gonna end up sellout like green day and cartel. sad. i think mtv plays a big part in blowing their fame up. thats why i refuse to watch that channel. bloc party on the other hand. pwns anyone

....

Was the new FoB song like totally worth it?

[Prestonxsmith]

I was watching this celebrity playlist thing on Fuse where bands picked thier top 5 fav. videos and Panic! picked thier own damn video for the number one spot. I don't even know where to begin with that...
Alot of bands do that. Its kinda like self promotion or the label wanted them to.

[Prestonxsmith]

....

Was the new FoB song like totally worth it?
To me
Hell yes

[70x7]

So, I haven't seen the whole article, but if the premise of the bitch session is that Brandon Urie didn't pal up with the guy like he would have hoped, well too frickin bad. Man up, and quit yer bitchin'. You're not the center of Panic's universe, and, oh well, your opportunity didn't pan out. Way to hang in there for three whole shows.

Go catch your own wave. Good luck to us all. You included.
I don't think he was bitching about not being the center of his universe. I think he was talking more about Panic! at the Disco being a business and not a band.
Besides, I think Bloc Party has caught their own wave. I have no clue why they did this tour, because it never made sense, but it's not like this was their one chance to be big.

[permanent]

That article was a really nice read. The new album sounds like it's going to be incredible.

[NoCoastPunk182]

yes, ryan ross (guitar) writes them, but they still suck

Technically Chuck Palahniuk, Closer and a variety of other authors and movies write the lyrics and P!ATD just puts them to circus noise.

...just sayin'

[Shatter_Glass]

To me
Hell yes

Right on "Preston". Right on.

[sdbrown]

Alot of bands do that. Its kinda like self promotion or the label wanted them to.
funny, because I was watching the other episodes and NONE of the other bands had their videos. And does P!atd really need more promotion? I mean they are hosting the show. and they played clips of their videos when they came back from commercial break. It really didn't make sense.

[Steve Henderson]

Technically Chuck Palahniuk, Closer and a variety of other authors and movies write the lyrics and P!ATD just puts them to circus noise.

...just sayin'
Haha, so true.

[x togepi x]

So, I haven't seen the whole article, but if the premise of the bitch session is that Brandon Urie didn't pal up with the guy like he would have hoped, well too frickin bad. Man up, and quit yer bitchin'. You're not the center of Panic's universe, and, oh well, your opportunity didn't pan out. Way to hang in there for three whole shows.

Go catch your own wave. Good luck to us all. You included.

so if you had a band and lung problems you'd stay on a tour more than three shows?

i doubt it, internet tough guy.

the problem is that p!atd thinks they're the center of everyone's universe. of course, when you're a flash in the pan band, you have to ride the wave as much as you can.

[Maniac Moses]

That band is a fucking joke. I've been booking shows for 4 years now and at first I really felt cool doing it. I felt cool to be a part of something different, even if I wasn't a pioneer or something. At least it was something legitimate. Now bands like Panic have bastardized the scene. I don't give a shit if a band gets big. I'm all for Fall Out Boy. They worked hard.

But now I'm embarrassed to wear a black band shirt because of the connotation that bands like Panic and fucking Aiden have brought to it.

I would just like to give a big shout out to fucking bitch ass bands like Panic who have ruined the experience for the rest of us.

[Trainsaw]

haha panic are horrible, in short he called them a bunch of tools lol

[CalmerThanYou]

so if you had a band and lung problems you'd stay on a tour more than three shows?

i doubt it, internet tough guy.

.



That's unfair. As I said in an earlier post, MTV wouldn't load on my screen. If the story is that the guy had a collpsed lung (what from, for pete sake?), and they left the tour for that, it certainly sounds justifiable.

The main point of my comment remains. The thing that is not justifiable is signing up as opening act for a tour, in the hope of getting arena exposure, and then bitchin and moanin about the fact that the headliner band really didn't give you the attention you thought you deserved. And then, talkin shit about how much more "about the music" you are.

Brandon Urie didn't hang with you? Oh well, deal with it. Bono's not interested either.

[CalmerThanYou]

Its pretty damn bad when bands you tour with shit talk you to the media


Simple, straightforward, and right frickin on.

[Steve Henderson]

So, I haven't seen the whole article, but if the premise of the bitch session is that Brandon Urie didn't pal up with the guy like he would have hoped, well too frickin bad. Man up, and quit yer bitchin'. You're not the center of Panic's universe, and, oh well, your opportunity didn't pan out. Way to hang in there for three whole shows.

Go catch your own wave. Good luck to us all. You included.
Dude, read the fucking article.

1) Bloc Party left the tour after "three whole shows" because the drummer had a collapsed lung. What a pussy.

2) Tong was not pissed that they didn't hang with them or whatever bullshit. They just called them out for the fact that their music doesn't mean anything, except to make money for themselves and FBR. And if you read about Bloc Party's upcoming record, that makes perfect sense why their views would clash.

Don't be a dick when you don't have a damn clue what you are talking about.

[Steve Henderson]

That's unfair. As I said in an earlier post, MTV wouldn't load on my screen. If the story is that the guy had a collpsed lung (what from, for pete sake?), and they left the tour for that, it certainly sounds justifiable.

The main point of my comment remains. The thing that is not justifiable is signing up as opening act for a tour, in the hope of getting arena exposure, and then bitchin and moanin about the fact that the headliner band really didn't give you the attention you thought you deserved. And then, talkin shit about how much more "about the music" you are.

Brandon Urie didn't hang with you? Oh well, deal with it. Bono's not interested either.
Why do you assume Bloc Party "signed up"? Like there is some big band chalkboard out there where bands attempt to drop dibs on the next teeniebopper show? Nope.

My guess is that Bloc Party was roped into this to some degree.

[Drew Beringer]

I love Bloc Party, I hate Panic!At The Disco.

[NoCoastPunk182]

Brandon Urie didn't hang with you? Oh well, deal with it. Bono's not interested either.

I bet Bono would be a hell of a lot more cool than Brandon Urine or whatever his name is anyways. You know, cause he worked to get the spot he's at. (and his live show isn't based around Barnum Bailey's Circus).

[lostromanticxx]

i used to love panic when they first started...now im over it. really done with it. they just arent the same. they really have let the fame get to their heads...theyre gonna end up sellout like green day and cartel. sad. i think mtv plays a big part in blowing their fame up. thats why i refuse to watch that channel. bloc party on the other hand. pwns anyone

What planet are you from? Green Day have been huge since the 90s, I would know I was there I grew up to them and they aren't sell outs, and for that matter neither is Cartel, I met them when they toured with New Found Glory and they are some of the nicest, most down to earth, sweetest guys I have ever met. Good try though. Better luck next time.

[CalmerThanYou]

[quote=Steve Henderson;5199577]Dude, read the fucking article.

1) Bloc Party left the tour after "three whole shows" because the drummer had a collapsed lung. What a pussy.
quote]

Dude, read the thread. The shit wouldn't load on my supposedly pretty good computer. When I made my first post, i had no idea why they left, and I said so.

The rest of what I said stands.

[Exsanguination]

I don't care for self righteous sanctimonious pricks cappin' on some other band in an effort to make themselves look good. Yeah sure, buddy, your aim is true, and the only reason you aren't more famous is because of how pure you are.

As for how nice Brandon is, I don't know. But judging him as not nice because he doesn't have an hour to talk to you, because hundreds of other people also want an hour with him now, is unfair.

You're taking the quote the wrong way. You make it seem as if they were attacking Panic.
A simple statement was made that expressed a thought, not a blatant attack.

[CalmerThanYou]

[quote=Steve Henderson;5199593]Why do you assume Bloc Party "signed up"? Like there is some big band chalkboard out there where bands attempt to drop dibs on the next teeniebopper show?

quote]

Are you saying that guys in Block Party accidentally showed up at some venues and found out, for the first time, that they were opening for Panic?

[Steve Henderson]

[quote=Steve Henderson;5199593]Why do you assume Bloc Party "signed up"? Like there is some big band chalkboard out there where bands attempt to drop dibs on the next teeniebopper show?

quote]

Are you saying that guys in Block Party accidentally showed up at some venues and found out, for the first time, that they were opening for Panic?
Um, sometimes bands have no say as to whom they tour with.

[Steve Henderson]

Article text for those that cannot navigate MTV's awful, awful site:

For any band, the sophomore album presents a set of rather unique challenges. But for an act like Bloc Party, who blasted out of the blue thanks to the worldwide acclaim for their debut disc, Silent Alarm, those challenges were even more unusual.

Not only does their second album, A Weekend in the City, carry with it the hype and expectations of both the press and the public, but the band was somehow tapped to debut songs from that LP before super-size crowds of squealing prepubescents as the improbable opening act on Panic! at the Disco's high-fructose arena tour (see "Panic! At The Disco Open Tour With Mime, Drum Line — Oh Yeah, And Rock").

And needless to say, things didn't go too well, as Bloc Party lasted just three dates on the tour before dropping off so drummer Matt Tong could recuperate from a collapsed lung. Which, if you ask the band, was actually a bit of a blessing in disguise.

"I think the circumstances were quite unfortunate, and obviously I'm not pleased that my drummer friend has an exploded lung and now has to live like an invalid," frontman Kele Okereke laughed. "The preferred course of action would've been to finish the tour, because we would've warmed into it. ... It was definitely an experience.

"We've only done one support tour before," he added. "It was a challenge, and so we tried to step up. I don't know, we got lots and lots of MySpace friend requests because of it. But to be honest, I've never heard any of [Panic's] music."

Tong, by contrast, was slightly less diplomatic about the experience. "I couldn't make an accurate summation [about Panic] based on the three-minute conversation I had with the lead singer [Brendon Urie]. But to me,there should always be an inherent difference between playing music and expressing yourself without considering business factors, and the music becoming a means to an end," he said, "and not being to entertain people or attain some sense of creative self-worth. You know, to be a rung in the ladder ... of a business empire."

Tong's statement is an interesting one, because the majority of Weekend (due February 6) deals with exactly those same kinds of issues: youth being co-opted by corporations, the loss of identity in the modern world, the loneliness of life in a megapolis. Both embracing and dissecting the flimsy fibers that unite us all in this age of interconnectivity, it's an album of sharp dichotomies — sonically expansive yet lyrically claustrophobic, joyous but weary, jittery in both a post-9/11 and a Saturday-night-on-the-prowl kind of way.

Over glitchy vocal samples, piston-like drums, swooning synths and prickly guitars, Okereke weaves 11 tales of big-city life, darting between overly lonely narratives about dead-eyed teens, morning commuters, business executives and coked-up clubgoers, while capturing both the fleeting moments of beauty and soul-wrenching nights of desperation that come with 21st-century living in a faceless, unforgiving metropolis.

"A lot of the ideas for these songs came to me whilst we were touring last year, and I was coming back to the U.K. intermittently and seeing friends that I was at university with," the singer/guitarist explained. "They're all working, all commuting, all getting drunk on the weekend. And no one seemed to be particularly happy. Everyone I spoke to seemed to have this real sort of incongruity between what they thought life was going to be and what life actually was. And I wanted to capture that real sense of optimism fading against the grind and routine of everyday life. It's about getting lots and lots of different perspectives; all the songs are different voices: a teenager, a commuter, an executive type — all these snapshots of people that paint one large picture.

"And it's quite disconcerting to me that whilst touring, there isn't much difference between how people behave in New York and London and Japan," he continued. "Everyone reads the same magazines and everyone watches the same forms of media, and I guess due to globalization, there seems to be just one real way of doing things. That's the thing I found the most disappointing about touring the world."

But now, with a new album ready to drop, Bloc Party are gearing up to tour the globe once again. And though A Weekend in the City — recorded in Dublin with producer Jacknife Lee (Snow Patrol's Eyes Open) — bubbles with world-weary sentiments, Okereke promised that he and the rest of the band are simply itching to get back on the road. And this time, they'll be playing to a more, well, mature audience.

"We only did three shows of a five-week tour, and we were just getting into a groove, and then things had to be called off. So, yeah, we're ready to go out again," he said of the failed Panic excursion. "Like I said, the last tour was an experience. And I'd like to think [the kids] who saw us on it did take it into their hearts and were concerned with the intention of the lyrics, but I do know that to some people it's just about hearing a song on the radio or having it on their phone. All you can hope is that the record will be something that seeps under their skin."

[Julia Conny]

This interview with Jason and Panic cannot come soon enough.

[Prestonxsmith]

This interview with Jason and Panic cannot come soon enough.
True dat. I also want the Motion City Soundtrack interview to be put up but Rohan said he had to put up one more before he did that.

[Tenn]

I am pretty much embarrassed to have been a fan of this band when their cd came out. Not saying it's not a pretty good cd, but their image (like every one else here has stated) has 100% turned me against them. They look so fuckin goofy in their stupidass makeup and stupidass retro-clown outfits. I can't believe this band still has fans. They are the biggest attention whores in American music right now. What's next? Some band all wearing pajamas and having a sleepover theme? The teenies would be all over that shit.

[x togepi x]

That's unfair. As I said in an earlier post, MTV wouldn't load on my screen. If the story is that the guy had a collpsed lung (what from, for pete sake?), and they left the tour for that, it certainly sounds justifiable.

The main point of my comment remains. The thing that is not justifiable is signing up as opening act for a tour, in the hope of getting arena exposure, and then bitchin and moanin about the fact that the headliner band really didn't give you the attention you thought you deserved. And then, talkin shit about how much more "about the music" you are.

Brandon Urie didn't hang with you? Oh well, deal with it. Bono's not interested either.

What I said isn't unfair at all. It would have been much more wise to wait until you could read the whole page before commenting, or not make a comment at all since you obviously aren't getting the whole story.

your main point doesn't stand at all. Bloc Party's problem with P!ATD wasn't that they didn't hang out, it was that the guys seem to care more about their image than their music. Also, P!ATD acts like they're the best band ever. They're way too arrogant for their own good.

I'd actually rather not hang out with Brandon Urie. I'd make fun of him for having little to know talent, as well as given him a copy of the book for my poetry 101 class to give his pal ryan, so the kid can learn how to write and edit his lyrics so that we don't have any more songs consisting mainly of

HAVEN'T YOU PEOPLE EVER HEARD OF CLOSING THE GOD DAMN DOOR.

that, or'd i'd throw another bottle at his head.

yes i realize that contradicts my earlier internet tough guy comment, but the dude's a tool.

[CalmerThanYou]

Thanks for posting the full text, Steve Henderson. I guess I need a tuneup, or upgrade, for Christmas. Santa, are you listening?

"I couldn't make an accurate summation [about Panic] based on the three-minute conversation I had with the lead singer [Brendon Urie]. But to me,there should always be an inherent difference between playing music and expressing yourself without considering business factors, and the music becoming a means to an end," he said, "and not being to entertain people or attain some sense of creative self-worth. You know, to be a rung in the ladder ... of a business empire."

This is the quote that does not sit well with me. I'll bet that if Coke wanted one of their songs, they would jump on board in a heartbeat. Who wouldn't?

But if they ever get that shot, they'd say they're not about sacrificing the music,they are merely taking the opportunity to spread their word to the people. Then, the bands without coke commercial royalties could bitch about them.

[CalmerThanYou]

that, or'd i'd throw another bottle at his head.<<


Don't throw bottles, man. It's cowardly, like a sucker punch. Plus, you might miss and hit a girl. Or a friend.

[x togepi x]

that, or'd i'd throw another bottle at his head.<<


Don't throw bottles, man. It's cowardly, like a sucker punch. Plus, you might miss and hit a girl. Or a friend.

haha true.

[Prestonxsmith]

that, or'd i'd throw another bottle at his head.<<


Don't throw bottles, man. It's cowardly, like a sucker punch. Plus, you might miss and hit a girl. Or a friend.
I once threw a bottle in warped tour and this girl behind almost beat the shit out of me.

[Julia Conny]

I am pretty much embarrassed to have been a fan of this band when their cd came out. Not saying it's not a pretty good cd, but their image (like every one else here has stated) has 100% turned me against them. They look so fuckin goofy in their stupidass makeup and stupidass retro-clown outfits. I can't believe this band still has fans. They are the biggest attention whores in American music right now. What's next? Some band all wearing pajamas and having a sleepover theme? The teenies would be all over that shit.

I feel your pain. I remember listening to Fever when it first came out and thinking it wasn't that bad. But hearing and noticing all these things that paint Panic as blatant sell outs makes me feel cheated and a little sick to my stomach.

[Prestonxsmith]

I feel your pain. I remember listening to Fever when it first came out and thinking it wasn't that bad. But hearing and noticing all these things that paint Panic as blatant sell outs makes me feel cheated and a little sick to my stomach.
I got Fever with a FOB FUCT Gold Vinyl I had got and it also came with So Sudden by The Hush Sound. I remember both were pretty good and that I knew that both of them were going to make way better music in the future. THS did but I really dont know about Panic. It seems like they are trying to ride the Fever wave as long as they can.

[dontfront]

I cannot stand Panic, I was dissapointed to see Bloc Party on the bill for this tour but I am no longer worried.

word. btw... nice avatar! im from finland hehe

[CalmerThanYou]

Panic's album was pretty darn good. Maybe they had a lot of help, but to what extent, I don't know.

So now, because of all the theatrics, no matter what they do, there will be a huge backlash. Can you imagine the writer's block those poor guys must be fighting?

Maybe they can link up with Cirque De Soleil.

From everything I have heard, from people who know them, these are not bad guys. This shit ain't as easy as it looks, you know. Just ask Lindsay.

[radxbandit]

i used to love panic when they first started...now im over it. really done with it. they just arent the same. they really have let the fame get to their heads...theyre gonna end up sellout like green day and cartel. sad. i think mtv plays a big part in blowing their fame up. thats why i refuse to watch that channel. bloc party on the other hand. pwns anyone

cliche.

[itsnotthateasy]

agreed with everyone above me.

i mean cmon, they have one fuckin record and a boxed set...of the same record. i used to love panic, but fuckin they have not released one god damned new song since their only record came out last year.

they focus waaaay too much on their image and not enough on actually making music.

-miked.

Most bands wouldn't have released another new song yet, they are supposedly working on new stuff though.

[itsnotthateasy]

I got Fever with a FOB FUCT Gold Vinyl I had got and it also came with So Sudden by The Hush Sound. I remember both were pretty good and that I knew that both of them were going to make way better music in the future. THS did but I really dont know about Panic. It seems like they are trying to ride the Fever wave as long as they can.

Well wouldn't you.

It might seem frustrating for a fan, but come on, why wouldn't they? People still enjoy hearing it, so they have been touring non stop. And touring with a conception, a show not just a concert.

You've seen it, is my guess/hypothesis.

[itsnotthateasy]

It is surprising there is such an uproar from those comments. I don't understand what they even mean completely (I am guessing I am not alone here). But I don't know, having a show doesn't mean you just care about business, I don't know, if he only talked for 3 minutes with Brandon, what is he even saying really....

[Thisisntright]

panic sucks... come on kids.... we new this a long time ago.. when the singer told the singer of acceptance that they were gonna be bigger then them..

[RememberFminus2]

It is surprising there is such an uproar from those comments. I don't understand what they even mean completely (I am guessing I am not alone here). But I don't know, having a show doesn't mean you just care about business, I don't know, if he only talked for 3 minutes with Brandon, what is he even saying really....

our school systems are failing us.

did he say something to complicated for you to understand?

[Maniac Moses]

Why do you assume Bloc Party "signed up"? Like there is some big band chalkboard out there where bands attempt to drop dibs on the next teeniebopper show? Nope.

My guess is that Bloc Party was roped into this to some degree.

Bands become openers on tours because they either 1. get asked by the headliner or 2. put in a bid with the agent booking the tour and get picked to be on it.

[Jason Tate]

So, I haven't seen the whole article, but if the premise of the bitch session is that Brandon Urie didn't pal up with the guy like he would have hoped, well too frickin bad. Man up, and quit yer bitchin'. You're not the center of Panic's universe, and, oh well, your opportunity didn't pan out. Way to hang in there for three whole shows.

Go catch your own wave. Good luck to us all. You included.

That's not the premise of the "bitch session" - which you later figure out, it's funny to put all of your quotes together because we can watch your argument shift as we read downward.

I don't care for self righteous sanctimonious pricks cappin' on some other band in an effort to make themselves look good. Yeah sure, buddy, your aim is true, and the only reason you aren't more famous is because of how pure you are.

As for how nice Brandon is, I don't know. But judging him as not nice because he doesn't have an hour to talk to you, because hundreds of other people also want an hour with him now, is unfair.

This is quite an interesting mentality - you seem to adhere to the idea that "do whatever it takes to get famous, that's all that matters" -- is that really what you believe?

Furthermore, you keep making it seem as though he's mad he didn't get an "hour" with Brandon, yet the first line of the fucking statement is, "I couldn't make an accurate summation" --- that's not a bitch-fest, that's him being honest.

That's unfair. As I said in an earlier post, MTV wouldn't load on my screen. If the story is that the guy had a collpsed lung (what from, for pete sake?), and they left the tour for that, it certainly sounds justifiable.

The main point of my comment remains. The thing that is not justifiable is signing up as opening act for a tour, in the hope of getting arena exposure, and then bitchin and moanin about the fact that the headliner band really didn't give you the attention you thought you deserved. And then, talkin shit about how much more "about the music" you are.

Brandon Urie didn't hang with you? Oh well, deal with it. Bono's not interested either.

Why is it that you've now posted three times, without having read the article? Don't you think it sort of showcases your predisposed opinion if you haven't read the article -- yet you're making such outlandish claims/accusations/assumptions in this thread?

Thanks for posting the full text, Steve Henderson. I guess I need a tuneup, or upgrade, for Christmas. Santa, are you listening?

"I couldn't make an accurate summation [about Panic] based on the three-minute conversation I had with the lead singer [Brendon Urie]. But to me,there should always be an inherent difference between playing music and expressing yourself without considering business factors, and the music becoming a means to an end," he said, "and not being to entertain people or attain some sense of creative self-worth. You know, to be a rung in the ladder ... of a business empire."

This is the quote that does not sit well with me. I'll bet that if Coke wanted one of their songs, they would jump on board in a heartbeat. Who wouldn't?

But if they ever get that shot, they'd say they're not about sacrificing the music,they are merely taking the opportunity to spread their word to the people. Then, the bands without coke commercial royalties could bitch about them.

I bet that he's not talking about Coke. What does this have to do with Coke? Where are you pulling any of this bullshit? You're saying that Bloc Party would (and should) take money for their songs; however, that was never involved in the argument or statement he made! He clearly states, "difference between playing music and expressing yourself without considering business factors" - for the non-stupid out there I think this can be translated to, "playing music because you love the music vs. (the accusation on P!atD) changing who you are in order to a) stay relevant, b) make more money (business factors)."

It's not about not making money, it's not about living in poverty, none of these points are ever brought up or addressed in this statement. All that he's saying is that you can make money, be a band, make music - and do it without putting the business or money [B]first or letting those kind of decisions impact/change/control your band or music and so forth. And even further -- he's saying TO HIM that there should ALWAYS be this difference. I, for one, agree. Especially when a band is disingenuous about their motives (I'm not saying P!aD is this way, I'm speaking in generalities here). You can make money at music, but when the theatrics and business mindset change and become your only reason for doing it -- you're going to be looked down on. You can still do it (no one is saying you can't), but I feel the music itself becomes hollow and ultimately suffers.

Bottom line: You're grossly misinterpreting the quote.

[HanusMaximus]

I'd imagine panic! asked bloc party to tour and like matt said, they never had heard panic's music but felt honoured that a band so big would offer them a slot many bands wanted; so they accepted.

I mean panic! may make bad music, but they seem to have good musical tastes; so they probably just liked bloc party.


Bloc Party: 1, Panic: 0 or negative something... I don't keep count with these guys.

[No_Soul420]

Their arrogance has really gotten to me. I don't even like seeing their faces anymore, because you can just tell how much they've all changed since they first signed to Decaydance.

Changed?? I hate to break it to you, but they have sucked since day one

[oldwirehands]

any band that claims they want to make it, turns their band into a big business. the music doesn't mean shit to them.

[Midnight'sSun]

any band that claims they want to make it, turns their band into a big business. the music doesn't mean shit to them.
I think you're right. As a matter of fact I did originally like Panic (bring on the mirth and abuse.) However, it seems that they're just getting more and more commercialised. I'll bet they've lost a lot of fans because of it, at least here. I mean, who does a box set when you only have one album out?

[Jason Tate]

Hopefully they do the interview I sent in soon ... it's gonna be good if they answer all the questions I asked. I didn't hold anything back.

[CalmerThanYou]

This is quite an interesting mentality - you seem to adhere to the idea that "do whatever it takes to get famous, that's all that matters" -- is that really what you believe? <<<<

No, that's not what i believe. I believe that people are people, and in the music business they set out to make music they like, and if they catch a ridiculously lucky ride, then they catch it. Their initial motives are as pure as every starving band looking for gas money to the next show. Amongst their fans, however, their favorite band is all about the music, regardless of the level of commercial achievement. Conversely, to the folks that never liked the band to begin with, or who have grown sick of them, the commercial success of any such band is merely proof of their desire to sell out.




>>>>>>Furthermore, you keep making it seem as though he's mad he didn't get an "hour" with Brandon, yet the first line of the fucking statement is, "I couldn't make an accurate summation" --- that's not a bitch-fest, that's him being honest.<<<<

He's honest about being unable to make an accurate summation, but then he goes about making one anyway. He's saying that Panic is in it for the wrong , dishonourable reasons, and, by implication, his band is not. I don't think I am misinterpreting that quote at all.

You said some other stuff, and I think, for the most part, I agree with it. We all want our artists to be in it for the right reasons. But we're human. We seek to reduce cognitive dissonance, and all that. So, our favorite band is given the benefit of the doubt, and the bands we hate are not. Our favorite band is righteous. The ones we don't like, or have grown tired of, are sellouts.

[CalmerThanYou]

The ones we don't like, or have grown tired of, are sellouts.<<<<<

I'm adding to my own comment.

Is the question here whether Panic is a sellout? Well, maybe. In the meantime, they are making whole arenas happy. So, are we to conclude that everyone in the arena is stupid, and we're not? if so, we are, indeed, rock snobs.

I probably am one.

[westsidas2000]

Technically Chuck Palahniuk, Closer and a variety of other authors and movies write the lyrics and P!ATD just puts them to circus noise.

...just sayin'
good stuff.

[Jason Tate]

No, that's not what i believe. I believe that people are people, and in the music business they set out to make music they like, and if they catch a ridiculously lucky ride, then they catch it. Their initial motives are as pure as every starving band looking for gas money to the next show. Amongst their fans, however, their favorite band is all about the music, regardless of the level of commercial achievement. Conversely, to the folks that never liked the band to begin with, or who have grown sick of them, the commercial success of any such band is merely proof of their desire to sell out.

I think that the commercial success has never been used as proof that the band had a desire to sell out -- I think the band's actions are. I think, and this is from seeing how the band operates first hand (I was there before they were ever signed, their management company asked me my opinion on them before they took them on), that the initial motives of the band were to make money and be famous. This is, of course, my opinion; however, I have countless reasonings and the ability to back it up.

Do I have a problem with it? No - not really. I could care less what their motives were. What bugs me is when they sell their motives as something else. Hey, a fool and his money are soon parted. So if they want to cash in on the trend while they can - go for it. But you then don't get to try and play the credibility card when it best suits you. Furthermore, you have to take the "bashing" that comes your way when you get called out on it (ie: this article). While I have little problem with the actions the band's taking themselves, it's clear to see that one must accept the backlash that is inevitable (and honestly deserved) from other musicians.

He's honest about being unable to make an accurate summation, but then he goes about making one anyway. He's saying that Panic is in it for the wrong , dishonourable reasons, and, by implication, his band is not. I don't think I am misinterpreting that quote at all.

You said some other stuff, and I think, for the most part, I agree with it. We all want our artists to be in it for the right reasons. But we're human. We seek to reduce cognitive dissonance, and all that. So, our favorite band is given the benefit of the doubt, and the bands we hate are not. Our favorite band is righteous. The ones we don't like, or have grown tired of, are sellouts.

Of course -- but I think even the most stringent fan, when faced with the plethora of evidence to the contrary, must accept the facts. If you, or any P! fan, can sit here and tell me with a straight face the band hasn't used their position to take advantage of their fans for their money, then that's where you stand. But I'm sorry - there's no way I can believe that. I think it's quite clear (and this is my only real gripe with the band) that they've maneuvered themselves in such a way that they're able to directly profit off their fans for no other reason than to make more money (and fame) for themselves. I see their continual repackaging, retouring, rereleasing, and rehashing as a ploy for cash. This isn't the same as a band creating a clothing company to sell a new product. This is the very definition of beating a dead cash cow until you've milked every last red penny. And, as someone who has seen thousands of bands come and go, some make it, some not -- this is not what I like to see. I like to believe (hey, if you can do it under the table and fool me, more power to you - I like to think that I hear of almost everything) most bands are genuinely good - and in this for the right reasons --- but there comes a time when you can't ignore the writing on the wall any longer. That time came months ago to me, and it's slowly permeating throughout the P! fans now.

[Jason Tate]

The ones we don't like, or have grown tired of, are sellouts.<<<<<

I'm adding to my own comment.

Is the question here whether Panic is a sellout? Well, maybe. In the meantime, they are making whole arenas happy. So, are we to conclude that everyone in the arena is stupid, and we're not? if so, we are, indeed, rock snobs.

I probably am one.
So, you're saying if the means justify the end (people are happy), then nothing else matters? I can potentially get on board that train of thought -- however, I ask where the "people are happy" caveat ends. Is it when no one is happy they're siphoning money from them? When no one wants to see them anymore? Or just the majority? Or just 100 people? Is there a time when the means no longer justify the end? And conversely, is there a time when the end no longer justifies the means?

[BuyMyIntention]

i used to love panic when they first started...now im over it. really done with it. they just arent the same. they really have let the fame get to their heads...theyre gonna end up sellout like green day and cartel. sad. i think mtv plays a big part in blowing their fame up. thats why i refuse to watch that channel. bloc party on the other hand. pwns anyone


Ok, you got your one post. Now GO AWAY!

[dretti]

So, you're saying if the means justify the end (people are happy), then nothing else matters? I can potentially get on board that train of thought -- however, I ask where the "people are happy" caveat ends. Is it when no one is happy they're siphoning money from them? When no one wants to see them anymore? Or just the majority? Or just 100 people? Is there a time when the means no longer justify the end? And conversely, is there a time when the end no longer justifies the means?

Hahaha deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

I don't really care what's going on here, I just wanted to express my undying love for Bloc Party and their new album.

[falloutboy.]

i miss the panic! that opened for acceptance and played before cartel =(

[falloutboy.]

i used to love panic when they first started...now im over it. really done with it. they just arent the same. they really have let the fame get to their heads...theyre gonna end up sellout like green day and cartel. sad. i think mtv plays a big part in blowing their fame up. thats why i refuse to watch that channel. bloc party on the other hand. pwns anyone
when did cartel sell out? being recognized is one thing, completely changing their music is another.

[CalmerThanYou]

I think that the commercial success has never been used as proof that the band had a desire to sell out -- I think the band's actions are.<<<

So the underlying question is whether Panic sold out.

In my view, Panic is Billy Pilgrim.



Listen: Billy Pilgrim is unstuck in time.

[hornerlas]

bloc party are i would say bigger over hear than panic at the disco.. I don't think he has said it just to get some attention..And to be fair it didnt do that idiot fromthe killers any good slagging off panic...When i went to see panic the show was good, they played their stuff well, but no talking on set, no banter with the crowd...nothing, was dissappointing.went to see bloc party it was a whole better crowd involved experience and a better performance..



to crowd that i think brandon just needs a swift kick to the crotch to remind him he isnt the second coming of jesus.

[x togepi x]

I think that the commercial success has never been used as proof that the band had a desire to sell out -- I think the band's actions are.<<<

So the underlying question is whether Panic sold out.

In my view, Panic is Billy Pilgrim.



Listen: Billy Pilgrim is unstuck in time.

you can't sell out unless you were a band before you got big. For all intents and purposes, since p!atd never played a show before getting signed, they weren't really a band.

it's not an issue about whether they sold out or not, it's an issue of if they're genuinely in it for the music or do they just want to get rich? seeing as they're the only band i've ever known to rerelease their debut record multiple times before coming out with anything else, i say they just want cash.

[VitalJ]

Is there a live video of Panic with all this crap going on?

[thesecondplace]

Yeah sure, buddy, your aim is true, and the only reason you aren't more famous is because of how pure you are.

Wait. Are you suggesting that Panic! is more famous than Bloc Party? Maybe with the 13-and under American crowd. I think Bloc Party is far better known (and loved) by the rest of us.

[GoWaitInTheCar]

Bloc Party are my boys.

[wessa]

i used to love panic when they first started...now im over it. really done with it. they just arent the same. they really have let the fame get to their heads...theyre gonna end up sellout like green day and cartel. sad. i think mtv plays a big part in blowing their fame up. thats why i refuse to watch that channel. bloc party on the other hand. pwns anyone

green day are sellouts? you were 4 years old when dookie came out, you have no idea what you are talking about

[mick2late]

panic sucks... come on kids.... we new this a long time ago.. when the singer told the singer of acceptance that they were gonna be bigger then them..
Wasn't he right, though?

[chokeychicken]

bloc party > panic!

[bikescene]

Its pretty damn bad when bands you tour with shit talk you to the media


Man, shut up. They only played three shows with them, they obviously didn't know Panic previously and never even listened to them. Opportunities that big don't come along every day for UK bands so of course they're going to take it but they're under no obligation to kiss anyone's ass, especially people as lame and money-driven as Panic.

[Everiggs]

i used to love panic when they first started...now im over it. really done with it. they just arent the same. they really have let the fame get to their heads...theyre gonna end up sellout like green day and cartel. sad. i think mtv plays a big part in blowing their fame up. thats why i refuse to watch that channel. bloc party on the other hand. pwns anyone

don't ever compare panic to cartel. you have no argument.

[lushintransit]

yay bloc party!

[WhoLikesCheese?]

"I couldn't make an accurate summation [about Panic] based on the three-minute conversation I had with the lead singer [Brendon Urie]. But to me,there should always be an inherent difference between playing music and expressing yourself without considering business factors, and the music becoming a means to an end," he said, "and not being to entertain people or attain some sense of creative self-worth. You know, to be a rung in the ladder ... of a business empire."

This is the quote that does not sit well with me. I'll bet that if Coke wanted one of their songs, they would jump on board in a heartbeat. Who wouldn't?

But if they ever get that shot, they'd say they're not about sacrificing the music,they are merely taking the opportunity to spread their word to the people. Then, the bands without coke commercial royalties could bitch about them.

Not everyone has Jack White syndrome. It's quite easy to hypothetically say what people you don't know are going to do when approaced by a corporation. In fact, I'm going to do so right now: I don't think Bloc Party would "jump on board in a heartbeat" if approaced by Coke. Judging by the lyrics on the upcoming cd, I think they're past that. But then again, who am I to say hypothetically what people I don't know are going to do.

[lushintransit]

Wait. Are you suggesting that Panic! is more famous than Bloc Party? Maybe with the 13-and under American crowd. I think Bloc Party is far better known (and loved) by the rest of us.

I love Bloc Party, I really do but (at least in America) they are nowehere near as well known as Panic!. It doesn't matter your age at all, they are on every single radio station. If you don't listen to radio, they have commercials on every channel and they're videos are on repeat on VH1, MTV, MTV2 & Fuse everyday. There is a least one article on them in nearly every music magazine, American Guitarist and Spin included. If you've never personally listened to them, someone you know probably has. Whereas I have never seen an inch of publicity for Bloc Party other than seeing their name on the Panic! tour. The population of people who are aware of Bloc Party may love them "better" (however you'd go about gauging that)...they are by no means as famous or close to itt as Panic!.

[lushintransit]

Not everyone has Jack White syndrome. It's quite easy to hypothetically say what people you don't know are going to do when approaced by a corporation. In fact, I'm going to do so right now: I don't think Bloc Party would "jump on board in a heartbeat" if approaced by Coke. Judging by the lyrics on the upcoming cd, I think they're past that. But then again, who am I to say hypothetically what people I don't know are going to do.


I agree. I also think it would be quite innane to even put the "if Coke wanted one of their songs..." scenario out there because, I mean come on...could you even picture one of their songs in a Coke commercial? And even if it was, it's not like people would know who it was.

[el scorcho]

God Bless Bloc Party.

[Steve Henderson]

Haha, I post the most dramariffic news :)

[*crying stars*]

This doesn't really seem to surprise me.

[thesego211]

So, you're saying if the means justify the end (people are happy), then nothing else matters? I can potentially get on board that train of thought -- however, I ask where the "people are happy" caveat ends. Is it when no one is happy they're siphoning money from them? When no one wants to see them anymore? Or just the majority? Or just 100 people? Is there a time when the means no longer justify the end? And conversely, is there a time when the end no longer justifies the means?

are you serious right now? we're talking about some bullshit pop band, not an atomic bomb

[takingbackrufio]

My love for this band has become, if possible, even more prominent after this situation.

Matt Tong has class, and more talent in his left pinkie than all of Panic! put together.

[falloutdrea19]

:appl:

[Maire]

I saw the Panic show last month and I was disappointed. I found Plain White T's and Jack's Mannequin to be more refreshing, since they just played their music and left. I also didn't have to watch that horrible movie while they changed their clothes.

[DJosef]

Bands become openers on tours because they either 1. get asked by the headliner or 2. put in a bid with the agent booking the tour and get picked to be on it.

Having talked to a few bands who've been stuck touring with bands they either hated or knew nothing about, somehow I doubt it's that simple. Labels, booking agents and other people get them roped into doing things they don't want to do; you wanna play the game, you have to play by their rules. The guitarist from one band in particular told me he didn't really care for somewhere around 95% of the bands they toured with (musically, that is; he liked a lot of them on a personal level).

[AreYouNervous]

I don't see how all of you can just assume these things about a band.
That they're only in it for cash and are arrogant asses and are such sell outs.

Are you part of this band? Part of the idea and mindset?
Did you even meet them?
Has it ever occured to you that the only reason they made it this big and got signed so fast was because they actually have talent and actually want to be someting different?
Guess not.

And the 'oh so ridiculous' costumes? Has it ever occured to you that maybe thats what THEY like? I'm sure they don't give a shit if you hate those costumes to death as long as thats what they want to wear.

How can you call a band a sell out if they're doing things to please themselves and not the people?

[falloutdrea19]

I don't see how all of you can just assume these things about a band.
That they're only in it for cash and are arrogant asses and are such sell outs.

Are you part of this band? Part of the idea and mindset?
Did you even meet them?
Has it ever occured to you that the only reason they made it this big and got signed so fast was because they actually have talent and actually want to be someting different?
Guess not.

And the 'oh so ridiculous' costumes? Has it ever occured to you that maybe thats what THEY like? I'm sure they don't give a shit if you hate those costumes to death as long as thats what they want to wear.

How can you call a band a sell out if they're doing things to please themselves and not the people?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

oh wait.

you're actually "serious."

k.....

[stevecrumb]

Having talked to a few bands who've been stuck touring with bands they either hated or knew nothing about, somehow I doubt it's that simple. Labels, booking agents and other people get them roped into doing things they don't want to do; you wanna play the game, you have to play by their rules. The guitarist from one band in particular told me he didn't really care for somewhere around 95% of the bands they toured with (musically, that is; he liked a lot of them on a personal level).

sorry but you're wrong. bands have the final say on if they go on certain tours or not. booking agents find the way to get them into tours and make it all possible but they don't finalize anything without the bands "ok".

[xrateddream]

i used to love panic when they first started...now im over it. really done with it. they just arent the same. they really have let the fame get to their heads...theyre gonna end up sellout like green day and cartel. sad. i think mtv plays a big part in blowing their fame up. thats why i refuse to watch that channel. bloc party on the other hand. pwns anyone

How the hell did Cartel sell out?

[Steve Henderson]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

oh wait.

you're actually "serious."

k.....
Cat fight!!!!!!

[falloutdrea19]

Cat fight!!!!!!

meow?

[Steve Henderson]

sorry but you're wrong. bands have the final say on if they go on certain tours or not. booking agents find the way to get them into tours and make it all possible but they don't finalize anything without the bands "ok".
Yes, but there are certainly cases where higher order interests might have a bearing on the band's decision. "You guys REALLY ought to go on this tour if you know what's good for you" etc...

[Steve Henderson]

meow?
I'm sorry, did you just say, "meow"?

[AreYouNervous]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

oh wait.

you're actually "serious."

k.....

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

yes. i am serious.

[falloutdrea19]

I'm sorry, did you just say, "meow"?

nope. i don't know what you're talking about...

[falloutdrea19]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

yes. i am serious.

well that's cool. merry christmas!

[Steve Henderson]

nope. i don't know what you're talking about...
You missed my Super Troopers reference.

[AreYouNervous]

well that's cool. merry christmas!

Oh, merry christmas to you too

[falloutdrea19]

You missed my Super Troopers reference.

shitttt. ive only seen that movie once. that's probably why.

[HolidayFromReal]

p.s. bloc party, jack's mannequin and plain white t's deserve a better, more respectable band to tour with than these arrogant pieces of shit.

i agree. I dont think JM should ever open for Panic! PWT and Jm deserve much better.

[HolidayFromReal]

You missed my Super Troopers reference.

do i look like a cat, jumping all nimbly bimbly from tree to tree?

[xrateddream]

"Do you know how fast you were going meow"

[singlexsorrow]

hahaha super troopers is a really funny movie. One of my favorite parts is when that one officer (farva?) goes crazy in that fast food joint ahaha.

[stevecrumb]

Yes, but there are certainly cases where higher order interests might have a bearing on the band's decision. "You guys REALLY ought to go on this tour if you know what's good for you" etc...

i understand, but the band does have the final say. usually in circumstances like these for bigger bands, there are multiple offers at a time that they can pick and choose from. it's never something where a band doesn't know they're going on tour with some other band until it's too late.

[thisisrightnow]

i used to love panic when they first started...now im over it. really done with it. they just arent the same. they really have let the fame get to their heads...theyre gonna end up sellout like green day and cartel. sad. i think mtv plays a big part in blowing their fame up. thats why i refuse to watch that channel. bloc party on the other hand. pwns anyone

Um, since when did Cartel sell out? Last I checked you don't sell out unless you change your total image for more money. Cartel has always been pop music, and they even admit that. So going on TRL doesn't mean they have sold out.

[iwasahero]

LOL at the vocalist's shirt.

[buzzrockradio]

i am at a draw on this I like both bands.

[MarisaInTransit]

i agree. I dont think JM should ever open for Panic! PWT and Jm deserve much better.


Seriously. I saw three shows on this tour but I went just for jm and I left after jm all but once. I don't care what Panic does, as long as I don't have to watch it.

[Steve Henderson]

do i look like a cat, jumping all nimbly bimbly from tree to tree?
Am i drinking milk from a saucer?!?!

[thesecondplace]

I love Bloc Party, I really do but (at least in America) they are nowehere near as well known as Panic!. It doesn't matter your age at all, they are on every single radio station. If you don't listen to radio, they have commercials on every channel and they're videos are on repeat on VH1, MTV, MTV2 & Fuse everyday. There is a least one article on them in nearly every music magazine, American Guitarist and Spin included. If you've never personally listened to them, someone you know probably has. Whereas I have never seen an inch of publicity for Bloc Party other than seeing their name on the Panic! tour. The population of people who are aware of Bloc Party may love them "better" (however you'd go about gauging that)...they are by no means as famous or close to itt as Panic!.

I guess it's all about perception. Maybe it's because I don't listen to any radio, watch any of the channels you mentioned or read any of those magazines. I absolutely believe age is relevant to each band's popularity. I could honestly [for what its worth] name you 50 people that I know personally that knew and liked Bloc Party before they had even ever heard the name Panic! At The Disco. Partly because BP's album was released first, also becasue everyone of these people are in there 20's. I factor that plus the fact that the UK (and I assume other Europeans as well) is in love Bloc Party- and have been since before Panic! even formed as a band. To me, that all adds up to BP being more popular in general, excepting with the American teen crowd.

[Don Trump]

Bloc Party are pretty legit.

[Jason Tate]

are you serious right now? we're talking about some bullshit pop band, not an atomic bomb

And that has what relevance?

[adeepname]

I saw the Panic show last month and I was disappointed. I found Plain White T's and Jack's Mannequin to be more refreshing, since they just played their music and left. I also didn't have to watch that horrible movie while they changed their clothes.

wait! they changed clothed DURING their set. who the hell do they think they are, Cher? god i hope they don't live as long as that plastic old woman.

yes, panic might be more popular than bloc party in america, but High School Musical was the top selling album this year. Album sales don't coincide with talent.

Bloc Party just got a lot more respect from me for having the balls to come out and saying this. Can't wait till the new album.

[WSUskee]

I think the instant fame at that age would go to anyone's head. Come on now everyhere is bitching but im sure if I got loaded at such a young age I would think I was on top of the world as well and they sort of are for the moment. Im not a big fan of the band but their live show on the last tour was one of the best things I have ever seen.

[dretti]

For those of you that said Bloc Party would never give in to "Coke," to have their music played in a commercial, unfortunately they have already had their music played in commercials. So your argument loses.

[Chancetobe]

I feel like everyone just hates Panic! now that thier sucessful. But I also think it's rediculous, because a lot of the people who hate them now used to like them before they "sold out". I mean, i agree, thier whole circus thing is a little bit rediculous, but, I still like thier music, and them being mainstream isn't gonna stop me from likeing it. Nothing pisses me off more then when people stop liking a band just because they go on TRL, it's the same music, just now more people like it. DOn't dislike something because liking it no longer makes you cool because you know un-known bands. Like music for what it is.

That said, i'm a little confused as to why JM is on that tour. I don't think thier a great match. But, i can't wait to see them if they ever come to town, no matter what tour thier on.

[dretti]

Not everyone has Jack White syndrome. It's quite easy to hypothetically say what people you don't know are going to do when approaced by a corporation. In fact, I'm going to do so right now: I don't think Bloc Party would "jump on board in a heartbeat" if approaced by Coke. Judging by the lyrics on the upcoming cd, I think they're past that. But then again, who am I to say hypothetically what people I don't know are going to do.

My previous statement goes to this quote.

Bloc Party's music has been in commercials. You lose.

[dretti]

I feel like everyone just hates Panic! now that thier sucessful. But I also think it's rediculous, because a lot of the people who hate them now used to like them before they "sold out". I mean, i agree, thier whole circus thing is a little bit rediculous, but, I still like thier music, and them being mainstream isn't gonna stop me from likeing it. Nothing pisses me off more then when people stop liking a band just because they go on TRL, it's the same music, just now more people like it. DOn't dislike something because liking it no longer makes you cool because you know un-known bands. Like music for what it is.

That said, i'm a little confused as to why JM is on that tour. I don't think thier a great match. But, i can't wait to see them if they ever come to town, no matter what tour thier on.

I'm not a fan of Panic, but I can agree with this to an extent. It bothers me that when Silent Alarm first came out, most of these people were still talking about how good Panic's album was. But now that it is a trend to hate on FBR bands, the feelings have shifted and they love Bloc Party.

[Chancetobe]

Exactly, it's a trend to hate FBR bands, and I think it's really unfair. And hypocrtical that people change thier perceptions on a band just because it's the trend. It's rediculous. Be your own person.

[takingbackrufio]

For those of you that said Bloc Party would never give in to "Coke," to have their music played in a commercial, unfortunately they have already had their music played in commercials. So your argument loses.
The decision to give out the rights to a song is on behalf of the label, is it not?

Parading around on stage dressed like circus animals and wearing make-up, however, isn't. What Matt said has been grossly misinterpreted by some (not you). He was merely saying that he doesn't agree with their "image" or "act". I like to acknowledge that Bloc Party is very professional and their main concern is their music, not their image (not saying that is P! main concern, but more so than Bloc Party), which is why they were never good tour partners with P! anyway.

[takingbackrufio]

Exactly, it's a trend to hate FBR bands, and I think it's really unfair. And hypocrtical that people change thier perceptions on a band just because it's the trend. It's rediculous. Be your own person.
*Ridiculous.

And "being your own person" isn't really that simple; it's not something someone can change overnight.

[Chancetobe]

Someone can't be themselves overnight?

[hxchairstylist]

I just want to know how many arena shows are done without a large stage show/setup?

Being that Panic! blew up after the release of their debut album, and largely in part to a major "plug" from Pete Wentz, then MtV exposure, these guys are obviously "riding the wave". But, who wouldn't? Music IS a business. Large band or small. Panic has become a bigger business than most bands, due to their quick rise to fame. But, in the time that they tour before the arena shows, they did open as support for other bands. If I recall in the MtV article with bloc party, Kele states that they have only done "one other support tour" before the panic! tour. So... despite the huge difference in record sales in the U.S., it seems that bloc party is just as spoiled as many of you are making Panic! out to be. MTV did a "10 spot drop" for bloc party when they started playing their video. MTV and various publications have championed bloc party in many ways also. The major difference is that the record buying audience for Panic ACTUALLY buys records. The majority of music fans that listen to bloc party and other "indie/hipster" bands will burn discs instead of buying them. I see it all the time here in seattle. I live in capitol hill, probably one of the most musically snobby areas in the country. And rightfully so. But, most of the people who claim to be sooooo about the music will be so quick to burn instead of buy, which really can help to fuel a bands popularity. Bloc Party SHOULD be huge. I totally agree. they're awesome. But, unfortunately they haven't gotten to do arena tours of their own in the US, because they haven't moved 1.4 million units. Panic! has.

As for the panic guys, I can say that in my experience, they are some really nice dudes. They're young. Youth sometimes breeds immaturity. they are not always stupid kids though, instead they have grown nicer and smarter in my experience with them. I hated them at first. I've since given them more than a fair chance to prove me wrong, and they most certainly have.

[takingbackrufio]

Someone can't be themselves overnight?
Uh ...

Be your own person.
You made it sound simple. Well, it isn't in all cases.

I'm not arguing with you. In fact, I agree with you to a point. What I'm trying to say is -- it's a trend for a reason. People are going to follow it; that's how it works, and it probably isn't going to change.

[rnord]

anyone realize that Pete Wentz wrote most of panic's album... these guys have no talent or creativity what so ever

[Chancetobe]

Uh ...


You made it sound simple. Well, it isn't in all cases.

I'm not arguing with you. In fact, I agree with you to a point. What I'm trying to say is -- it's a trend for a reason. People are going to follow it; that's how it works, and it probably isn't going to change.

I guess your right. The reason people buy into trends is because they have a hard time thinking for themselves. Good point.

Not to say it doesn't annoy me sometimes though.

[frommelyty]

thats what bloc party gets for touring with a lame band like panic at the disco.

[konstantine94]

I went for Jack's Mannequin, and I had a good time. Panic's screaming fans annoyed me to death. I saw one of the little girls from the show at work the other day and I gave her the dirtiest look possible.

[oscaristhebest0]

anyone realize that Pete Wentz wrote most of panic's album... these guys have no talent or creativity what so ever

correct me if i am mistaken but i am almost positive that Ryan Ross wrote all the lyrics

[xxrealmusicxx]

Originally Posted by rnordhttp://images.absolutepunk.net/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=5202988#post520298 8)
anyone realize that Pete Wentz wrote most of panic's album... these guys have no talent or creativity what so ever


correct me if i am mistaken but i am almost positive that Ryan Ross wrote all the lyrics


yes, he did, your right, pete wentz found and signed them, but had nothing to do with the writing of AFYCSO

[theGrue]

If he's so smart, how come his lung collapsed?

[RonnieDay]

I had no idea so many of you knew the Panic! guys!

I mean, I'm no fan of the music, but what should their asses or their heads have to do with anything?

[ocelot mthrfckr]

I am a fan of actual disco music. I was very disapointed to learn panic at the disco's music did not live up to their name. :-(

[Name_Taken]

2 gay bands..who the fuk cares?

[Chancetobe]

2 gay bands..who the fuk cares?

Well... aparently a lot of people.

[Steve Henderson]

I had no idea so many of you knew the Panic! guys!

I mean, I'm no fan of the music, but what should their asses or their heads have to do with anything?
It's just people sounding off on an internet message board...not a huge deal.

Let me qualify why I think people "hate" Panic right now. In general, when a scene band makes it big, it is usually due to the scene fans, like those of us on AP. When they make it, some bands remember that and are still really grateful for the boost, and there is no better example than Fall Out Boy. However, with these guys, it is just keep moving forward, make money, and dress up in silly costumes. I m not going to say that is right or wrong, but I think it is understandable for fans who were there from the start to feel a little cheated.

Regardless, I actually like their CD, but when they go on public record making dickish comments about the band member they kicked out, you are asking for a backlash. And in the context of everything else going on with FBR right now, it just gets increasingly easier to label Panic as a sellout/cog in the commercial money making machine.

Just my 2 cents. I agree some people take it over the top, but ya know.

[falloutboy.]

It's just people sounding off on an internet message board...not a huge deal.

Let me qualify why I think people "hate" Panic right now. In general, when a scene band makes it big, it is usually due to the scene fans, like those of us on AP. When they make it, some bands remember that and are still really grateful for the boost, and there is no better example than Fall Out Boy. However, with these guys, it is just keep moving forward, make money, and dress up in silly costumes. I m not going to say that is right or wrong, but I think it is understandable for fans who were there from the start to feel a little cheated.

Regardless, I actually like their CD, but when they go on public record making dickish comments about the band member they kicked out, you are asking for a backlash. And in the context of everything else going on with FBR right now, it just gets increasingly easier to label Panic as a sellout/cog in the commercial money making machine.

Just my 2 cents. I agree some people take it over the top, but ya know.
could not have said it any better

[ZeoVGM]

Panic is awesome. Great CD. People should get over themselves.

[itsjustadrian]

Haven't you read any of this thread?

[thexflamesxburn]

panic should all stop playing music. they've tainted everything, and in a very bad way.

[adozenroses]

hahahaha panic! has their heads up their asses? so the fuck what...i still like them. but i do enjoy block party as well...so there.

[elvis]

Bloc party > a pile of horse shit > panic at the disco.

exaaaaaaaactly

[elvis]

Brandon Urie didn't hang with you? Oh well, deal with it. Bono's not interested either.

I wanted to post all of the stupid things you've said on this thread but A. i got bored trying to weed through all of them, and B. Tate and Henderson pretty much took you to school already. So I would just like to point out that Urie will never ever ever ever be even close to the musician/humanitarian Bono is. And i think anyone who knows who Bono is and what he's done will agree. You're comparing one of the best frontmen in rock and roll history to a circus clown.

[MyChemFREAK]

OMG......i cant believe this. Matt is an ass...If he thinks this then why did he keep touring with Panic!? I would freakout if i was asked to be on tour with them because they make GREAT music and Ryan is a true genius.....I have met Panic and they are really nice, truely awesome guys. So if u dont like Panic then FUCK OFF

[MyChemFREAK]

And i think anyone who knows who Bono is and what he's done will agree. You're comparing one of the best frontmen in rock and roll history to a circus clown.
I agree.....Bono is a circus clown.

[almandude]

OMG......i cant believe this. Matt is an ass...If he thinks this then why did he keep touring with Panic!? I would freakout if i was asked to be on tour with them because they make GREAT music and Ryan is a true genius.....I have met Panic and they are really nice, truely awesome guys. So if u dont like Panic then FUCK OFF

If you look at the article, Matt wasn't really bashing them at all. What is the point in responding to something if you don't know the whole story because you haven't read it. Honestly look through this thread, take it all in, then make an intelligent and thoughtful response, not one based just on the fact that you like the band. Plus, I like Panic, but I do have my dislikes about them aswell.

[kjs7]

If he's so smart, how come his lung collapsed?

You're right! Smart People are immune to everything!

honestly, did you even think about that before you typed it?

I agree with bloc Party. Panic is a business, not a band.

[jellobomb]

that's funny because Bloc Party shouldn't be allowed to be so pretentious, as they are a poor man's Editors in the first place. you're on the low end of the indie rock totem pole guys.

and oh my god they're so ~deep~ with their' stick it to the man, money is for capitalist pigs' lines. oh ffs, you wouldn't have gone on tour with panic! if that was the case. it's one big contradiction to say it's all about the music then tour with a band whose music you haven't heard because that makes me think to things. one, they did it for the money. and two, they're cunts.

[jellobomb]

I just saw an interview with them about a year ago. It was when they still had Brent. They seemed nice. Then I watched an interview with them about 3 weeks ago. They seemed like assholes

they have consistenly been awkward,in all respects, during interviews since the beginning. awkward and standoffish because they're 18 year olds with no media training. i've seen almost all of their interviews so i'm not just saying this. you can't judge them properly by two interviews.

[C00kiem0nster98]

anyone realize that Pete Wentz wrote most of panic's album... these guys have no talent or creativity what so ever

Wow, do you even realize how wrong you are? Ryan Ross writes ALL of the lyrics. Don't make smart ass comments when you don't know shit about a band.

[C00kiem0nster98]

So, I have a few things to say here:

-Those of you who say that you were fans before Panic! was big and aren't fans now, you aren't and never were a true fan.

-Go a cry to your mom about Panic! being successful. Get over yourself.

-For those of you who said Panic! makes shitty music: where's your moonman and platinum album?

-I find it amusing that some of you make fun of BRENDON's last name and think it's cool to spell it "Urine". Grow the fuck up.

-Seriously, who the hell decides to not like a band because they got famous?

-Who the hell are you to say that Panic! is arrogant? Do you know them personally? One of my friends is great friends with Panic! and they are the sweetest guys ever. The reason that they don't come out to talk to their fans any more is because if they do, they get attacked by the FUCKING TEENIES!

-If any of you knew anything, Panic! is actually trying to get people to focus on their music rather than their looks. That's what inspired their video for "Lying is the Most Fun...".

-So basically those of you who are saying that Panic! is a sucky band because they became very successful and a lot of people know who they are, you guys are a bunch of tools.

[RockVocalPower]

-So basically those of you who are saying that Panic! is a sucky band because they became very successful and a lot of people know who they are, you guys are a bunch of tools.

Panic sucks because:

a) their record is shitty
b) they are shitty people
c) they have thousands of fans like you.

Merry Christmas.

[DJosef]

So, I have a few things to say here:
Good for you!


-Those of you who say that you were fans before Panic! was big and aren't fans now, you aren't and never were a true fan.
You tell 'em!


-Go a cry to your mom about Panic! being successful. Get over yourself.

I like that you made this comment with a faux Italian accent. Very original.

-For those of you who said Panic! makes shitty music: where's your moonman and platinum album?

So Britney Spears, N*SYNC, etc. are all amazing/talented muscians?


-If any of you knew anything, Panic! is actually trying to get people to focus on their music rather than their looks. That's what inspired their video for "Lying is the Most Fun...".


And that's why they spend thousands of dollars on a circus show of the same material instead of actually focusing on writing new material, or, I don't know, not sucking.

[jellobomb]

except they are writing new material currently, so, what's your complaint again?

and some bands i like take up to three, even four years to write new material. it's understandable that a new band would do a full year of touring before writing a new record. I don't see whats so wrong with it.

if people should be complaining about anyone, it should be 30STM who are still making singles off of an album released in early 2005.

[C00kiem0nster98]

Panic sucks because:

b) they are shitty people
c) they have thousands of fans like you.

Merry Christmas.


You dont know them personally, do you? They are far from shitty people. I've talked to them a few times and they are really great guys. And having thousands of faithful, loving fans is a bad thing? Haha, I'm going to humor you on that one.

[C00kiem0nster98]

Good for you!


You tell 'em!


I like that you made this comment with a faux Italian accent. Very original.

So Britney Spears, N*SYNC, etc. are all amazing/talented muscians?



And that's why they spend thousands of dollars on a circus show of the same material instead of actually focusing on writing new material, or, I don't know, not sucking.


Uhm...the thing with the Italian accent? No. I didn't have an accent on that one. Stop trying to make me look like a loser. And did I say that Brittany Spears and N*SYNC are amazing? No, I didn't. Don't put words in my mouth. And the thing about the circus themed show: they did it because they don't want to be another band playing in t-shirts and jeans. What's so wrong about a little variety? You guys don't think very hard...

[DJosef]

Uhm...the thing with the Italian accent? No. I didn't have an accent on that one. Stop trying to make me look like a loser. And did I say that Brittany Spears and N*SYNC are amazing? No, I didn't. Don't put words in my mouth. And the thing about the circus themed show: they did it because they don't want to be another band playing in t-shirts and jeans. What's so wrong about a little variety? You guys don't think very hard...

Clearly you're the one not thinking very hard; I was suggesting that if all it takes are some "prestigious" awards like the MTV Moonman to be considered "talented" then those acts must be as well.

But then again you love and defend Panic! at the Disco, so I can understand how these things might be over your head. Also you shouldn't preach variety when you're defending a band that sounds like Fall Out Boy with a synth.

[AreYouNervous]

This is ridiculous.

What are you all seriously getting out of this?

Is your aim to basically piss off a bunch of people?
Ok, you did. Have fun?

To get your point across?
This sounds familiar. Weren't there Panic! haters from even before their album came out?

Or maybe its to convert a bunch of fans into one of you?
Sorry to say but, Panic! has an extremely dedicated core fanbase so you're out of luck.


Please, no more hate. You're not doing anything except wasting your precious time that would otherwise be used looking at peoples away messages.

Merry Christmas, I hope you all get a reality check on how stupid you are.

[Beej 347]

Technically Chuck Palahniuk, Closer and a variety of other authors and movies write the lyrics and P!ATD just puts them to circus noise.

...just sayin'

yeah yeah i gotcha. but they disgrace all of the refrences they use for the lyrics.

[Mercy Medical]

I enjoy Panic and the music they make, but how they represent themselves is just ridiculous. The fame is definitely going to their heads and there is no way in hell they deserve any of this.

[brandnewrx]

yes, ryan ross (guitar) writes them, but they still suck

They suck? The lyrics are amazing!

If anything sucks, its Bloc Party.

When I found out I had to see them playing with Panic, I was quite upset.

I was relieved when they stepped down due to medical problems. Cobra Starship was so much better.

[lushintransit]

I guess it's all about perception. Maybe it's because I don't listen to any radio, watch any of the channels you mentioned or read any of those magazines. I absolutely believe age is relevant to each band's popularity. I could honestly [for what its worth] name you 50 people that I know personally that knew and liked Bloc Party before they had even ever heard the name Panic! At The Disco. Partly because BP's album was released first, also becasue everyone of these people are in there 20's. I factor that plus the fact that the UK (and I assume other Europeans as well) is in love Bloc Party- and have been since before Panic! even formed as a band. To me, that all adds up to BP being more popular in general, excepting with the American teen crowd.

I don't think age has as much to do with it as you're implying. Sure, about 99.9 percent of Panic!'s fanbase is below the age of legal voting. Sure, they're geared towards that age group by every person looking to make a buck off of them. But my parents know who Panic! at the Disco are because they've been exposed to their ads when watching whatever run of the mill channel they watch. When it comes down to it, exposure and publicity have a lot more to do with how popular a band or artist are--not how many people in a given age bracket know them. Surely, I'd suppose that as high as 80% of Panic! fans under the age off 18 have never heard of Bloc Party or any other decent band (according to those older than them). But that's not to say that Panic! fans over the age of 18 have heard of Bloc Party. It's also not to say that someone over the age of 20 is more likely to know who Bloc Party are simply because of their age.

[supfoo_]

hahahhaaahahah

its like world war 3...
but,

Panic! At The Disco > Bloc Party.


any fucking day.

[supfoo_]

O and its Brend<b>o</b>n Urie

for fucks sake.

[Steve Henderson]

hahahhaaahahah

its like world war 3...
but,

Panic! At The Disco > Bloc Party.


any fucking day.

O and its Brend<b>o</b>n Urie

for fucks sake.
Lollerskates.

[betterifbruised]

What does it say about your life that you spend hours reading through comments on a paragraph long article to make a snappy reply to someone who supports a band? What's with all the hating on each other's favorite bands? I love Panic, along with Dresden Dolls, Billy Talent and Rise Against, but I can't stand The Killers. But I don't go telling people how much they suck and how many heads are stuck up their asses. Get a life and quite playa hatin.

[New York Slave]

panic has there heads shoved so far up there own asses...it isnt even funny. they dont give a shit about consistency or thier stage performance. all they care about now is how "cool" they make thier stage set-up look. i fucking hate them.

I'll Drink To That!!!!

[BurgundyBalloon]

Panic! At The Disco is one of the most talented bands with the most witty and clever lyrics. Panic! cares so much about their fans, and have such a unique and incredible amount of style and charisma. Bloc Party are jerks, and if they don't like Panic!, then why the hell were they even touring with them in the first place? It's amazing just how young the incredibly talented guys in P!ATD are, considering just how much they have accomplished. Their debut album has already sold over 1 million copies, and they have such a loyal and devoted fanbase, that assholes like you can't and won't ever bring them down. Panic! rocks and the guys in Bloc Party are jerks for criticizing them, because they'll never be half as succesful and well-meaning as Panic! At The Disco is.

[Judge'sDaughter]

THAT BITCH! Panic! owns.

[Exsanguination]

THAT BITCH! Panic! owns.

:rolleyes:

[Matt_Dizzle]

good cd.hate the members =[

[JadziaDrgnRdr]

Ya know, I think it's become just the norm for people to dis Panic. Birds gotta fly. Fish gotta swim. Bands gotta give each other shit.

"Panic sux!" Okay, that's valid I suppose but only if you normaly listen to this genre of music and have decided that Panic just isnt' up to snuff but if you're like a strict hardcore fan then of course you're not going to like Panic. That goes without saying and your opinion shouldnt' be weighted against someon who could in theory like Panic but just doesn't because of something they did or didn't do with the musical genre in which they chose to operate. Personally I really am impressed by Panic's artistry especially for them to be so young. The lyrics are amazing. The music is sophisticated as well as catchy as the day is long, and the image is quite eyecatching and appealing.

"Panic changed! They've become assholes!" Actually I dont' completely disagree. They can come off a bit haughty, sometimes means spirited and sometimes down right menstrually bitchy but people have been pelting them (figuratively and literally lol) since they hit. Those Bloc Party dudes are just the latest in a long line of bitter ass bands hating on Panic, as if Panic controlled the rate at which they sold albums or got headlining shows. They used an inventive way to get themselves out there and it paid off. There are folks gigging for 10, 15 years that don't get that kind of recognition but that's hardly the boys of panic's fault. I hate using the term "hater" usually because it generally is someone's way of shirking off even valid critique but I've really seen Panic festooned with vitriol and hatred just because ... because what thier songs are catchy? They look like Japanese RPG characters with the hair, make up, and clothes? They'r pretty as little girls? What?! I mean I can understand not caring for a band but people say really mean even violent things about Panic and it's just like the thing to do nowadays which I think has led them to be far more closed off and jaded than they should be after just a year of being the scene's 'it' boys.

Also, they get criticized for the screaming teenies that march to their shows. Now, let me be clear, I don't agree with how they expressing their low grade loathing toward their fans and toward all the songs on the album not entitled "Build God and Then We'll Talk" nor their petulant "We're not emo, damnit!" or my least favorite "We're gonna play up the homoerticism but if anyone has the audactiy to think we're gay we're going to get really pissed about it!" stance but they're young and they don't have PR flacks and let's face it how many of us were assfaces during our teen years? I know I fucking was. Still i like their music. I like the pageantry of their show. I like their little personalities even when they are bighting instead of purring. I just hope that next album they are happy with what they produce and create exactlty the album they want to create. Also I want them to lighten the fuck up. They bitch and moan more than my knees on a rainy day, but then if they became Boy Scouts they would be far less fascinating to me.

Don't worry, the rest of my posts won't be so long winded.

[JadziaDrgnRdr]

The decision to give out the rights to a song is on behalf of the label, is it not?

Parading around on stage dressed like circus animals and wearing make-up, however, isn't. What Matt said has been grossly misinterpreted by some (not you). He was merely saying that he doesn't agree with their "image" or "act". I like to acknowledge that Bloc Party is very professional and their main concern is their music, not their image (not saying that is P! main concern, but more so than Bloc Party), which is why they were never good tour partners with P! anyway.


Isn't that a little bit like being mad at "Dream Girls" for not being "Rent"? Panic! puts on a SHOW while most bands just play their shit - perhaps jump about on stage - and then go home. Panic! has an entire experience that includes make up design, costumes, elaborate sets and dancers. That's their shit. That's what they do. They could just come out in tees and jeans and sing their songs but they chose not to. Actually, their songs don't go with jeans and tees too tough. Even in teh old days they had kind of a riverboat/ 1920s gangster look to their outfits. Their music is just a little too dramatic and theatrical to just be "Hey here's some songs." It's not for everybody but what they do does appeal to some (multitudes really and not just teenies because I surea as hell aint a teenie) and for what they do, they do the hell out of it.

[JadziaDrgnRdr]

I was watching this celebrity playlist thing on Fuse where bands picked thier top 5 fav. videos and Panic! picked thier own damn video for the number one spot. I don't even know where to begin with that...


They picked NiN but Fuse made them pick their own video. They said it right there in the show.

[mizxjessika]

So, I have a few things to say here:

-Those of you who say that you were fans before Panic! was big and aren't fans now, you aren't and never were a true fan.

-Go a cry to your mom about Panic! being successful. Get over yourself.

-For those of you who said Panic! makes shitty music: where's your moonman and platinum album?

-I find it amusing that some of you make fun of BRENDON's last name and think it's cool to spell it "Urine". Grow the fuck up.

-Seriously, who the hell decides to not like a band because they got famous?

-Who the hell are you to say that Panic! is arrogant? Do you know them personally? One of my friends is great friends with Panic! and they are the sweetest guys ever. The reason that they don't come out to talk to their fans any more is because if they do, they get attacked by the FUCKING TEENIES!

-If any of you knew anything, Panic! is actually trying to get people to focus on their music rather than their looks. That's what inspired their video for "Lying is the Most Fun...".

-So basically those of you who are saying that Panic! is a sucky band because they became very successful and a lot of people know who they are, you guys are a bunch of tools.


omg .. i totallyy agree with u .. and with the looks thing .. thats why ryan got a new hair style.. cause he doesnt want people focusing on how "hot" he looks.

[Julia Conny]

Panic! At The Disco is one of the most talented bands with the most witty and clever lyrics. Panic! cares so much about their fans, and have such a unique and incredible amount of style and charisma. Bloc Party are jerks, and if they don't like Panic!, then why the hell were they even touring with them in the first place? It's amazing just how young the incredibly talented guys in P!ATD are, considering just how much they have accomplished. Their debut album has already sold over 1 million copies, and they have such a loyal and devoted fanbase, that assholes like you can't and won't ever bring them down. Panic! rocks and the guys in Bloc Party are jerks for criticizing them, because they'll never be half as succesful and well-meaning as Panic! At The Disco is.

Wow, calm down.

Panic! is one of the most talented bands? Compared to who?