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open mind
12/23/06, 03:25 AM
i was just wondering if anyone can point to one postive trend that our system can be credited with (i can't think of one)

dai the flu
12/23/06, 04:46 AM
thats a pretty subjective question.
it depends on what you consider positive.
in the other thread, you're pushing for more realistic sex and language on public TV. that isnt a positive thing. not to me at least.

dai the flu
12/23/06, 04:47 AM
unless by "system" you mean government.
i took the question as meaning society in general.

open mind
12/23/06, 08:41 AM
i wasn't pushing for anything so much as being against censorship.
society in general works, but i can't think of anything the government does improving either.

YourMusicSucks
12/23/06, 08:58 AM
The straight-edge movement.

The pros are pretty obvious, and I can't think of something trendier.

Oh wait, maybe I can: Veganism. You can try to argue that that's positive too.

open mind
12/23/06, 09:20 AM
The straight-edge movement.

The pros are pretty obvious, and I can't think of something trendier.

Oh wait, maybe I can: Veganism. You can try to argue that that's positive too.

i meant more widespread and pervasive trends that effect most everybody, sorry for not being clearer on that.

dw1003
12/23/06, 09:23 AM
i wasn't pushing for anything so much as being against censorship.
society in general works, but i can't think of anything the government does improving either.

I'm a 13 year old kid who is so bored with looking at porn that I have to post some bullshit non-specific thread about "the system"... keep an open mind buddy...

x togepi x
12/23/06, 03:22 PM
The straight-edge movement.

The pros are pretty obvious, and I can't think of something trendier.

Oh wait, maybe I can: Veganism. You can try to argue that that's positive too.

take it from someone who's edge, it's not as positive as you think. If it were the early days, I'd agree.

in many cases edge is just a militaristic movement for tough guys to have another reason to beat someone's ass, or at the very least, to continue being judgemental pricks.

YourMusicSucks
12/23/06, 03:52 PM
take it from someone who's edge, it's not as positive as you think. If it were the early days, I'd agree.

in many cases edge is just a militaristic movement for tough guys to have another reason to beat someone's ass, or at the very least, to continue being judgemental pricks.

Haha, I agree completely. But If I had to write about a positive trend, it'd be pretty easy to pick out the good things about the straight edge movement.

open mind
12/23/06, 07:53 PM
I'm a 13 year old kid who is so bored with looking at porn that I have to post some bullshit non-specific thread about "the system"... keep an open mind buddy...

uh, dude i'm 24, and i don't believe it's a bullshit question to ask for someone to point to one major area of our society that is measurably improving instead of declining, if you can't do that at least don't be a jackass.

dw1003
12/23/06, 08:31 PM
uh, dude i'm 24, and i don't believe it's a bullshit question to ask for someone to point to one major area of our society that is measurably improving instead of declining, if you can't do that at least don't be a jackass.

Technology. (accept that we are all now exposed to idiots like you)
Infant Mortality Rates.
Alternative Energy.
Public Transportation.
Medical Science

these are just a few small examples. you are in fact an idiot for posting this thread. I'm sorry, you lose.

open mind
12/23/06, 09:00 PM
Technology. (accept that we are all now exposed to idiots like you)
Infant Mortality Rates.
Alternative Energy.
Public Transportation.
Medical Science

these are just a few small examples. you are in fact an idiot for posting this thread. I'm sorry, you lose.

oh but don't you think technology is increasingly used for profanity and nudity? how can that be good in your eyes?
infant mortality rates are auctually alot higher in this country then they are in others and are not improving here.
where is this alternative energy that everybody is using? last i checked we were still hostage to big oil.
public transportation isn't a trend and it's not improving.
medicine is getting worse with it being taken over by corporations the human element that used to be so prevalent is gone, doctors no longer have the time to get to know their patients and as a result don't always know how bad something is. for example my grandmother had the best medical care available on paper you could get, but none of the doctors knew her, she was a very tough lady who didn't like to complain or impose on anyone, so when she said she was in some pain it meant she was in ALOT of pain, but the doctors who aren't really allowed to get to know their patients anymore didn't know this because all of the humanity is being taken out of medicine because medical care is just another buisness now. the science part i'll grant you is improving but the end result is not.
if you can't have a conversation here without being a asshole that constantly has to put their foot in their mouth find something else to do.

dw1003
12/23/06, 09:27 PM
oh but don't you think technology is increasingly used for profanity and nudity? how can that be good in your eyes?
infant mortality rates are auctually alot higher in this country then they are in others and are not improving here.
where is this alternative energy that everybody is using? last i checked we were still hostage to big oil.
public transportation isn't a trend and it's not improving.
medicine is getting worse with it being taken over by corporations the human element that used to be so prevalent is gone, doctors no longer have the time to get to know their patients and as a result don't always know how bad something is. for example my grandmother had the best medical care available on paper you could get, but none of the doctors knew her, she was a very tough lady who didn't like to complain or impose on anyone, so when she said she was in some pain it meant she was in ALOT of pain, but the doctors who aren't really allowed to get to know their patients anymore didn't know this because all of the humanity is being taken out of medicine because medical care is just another buisness now. the science part i'll grant you is improving but the end result is not.
if you can't have a conversation here without being a asshole that constantly has to put their foot in their mouth find something else to do.

umm you asked about positive trends... not problems that already have an answer.

god you're a real idiot.

you really didn't understand my post about profanity and nudity. I'm not against either...

god you're a real idiot.

I answered your post about positve trends... but you have nothing substantial to say.

There are so many positive things happening in our world right now... you're just too dull to get it.

open mind
12/23/06, 09:38 PM
umm you asked about positive trends... not problems that already have an answer.

god you're a real idiot.

you really didn't understand my post about profanity and nudity. I'm not against either...

god you're a real idiot.

I answered your post about positve trends... but you have nothing substantial to say.

There are so many positive things happening in our world right now... you're just too dull to get it.

wow, with such clear cut arguements and unassailable logic like that you must be right.
you did not answer my question, because they aren't positive trends happening in our society today.
okay how about if i say technology by and large is not really enhancing our daily lives, most people use it mainly for entertainment (which by itself is not a bad thing) but with the amount of it people are getting sitting around and not doing anything but getting fatter (crazy high obesity rates) it's not making things better.
the technology that is being created today is mostly just crap to distract people, and the stuff that is really useful (like medical advances) isn't affordable to a huge amount of the population.

dw1003
12/23/06, 09:43 PM
wow, with such clear cut arguements and unassailable logic like that you must be right.
you did not answer my question, because they aren't positive trends happening in our society today.
okay how about if i say technology by and large is not really enhancing our daily lives, most people use it mainly for entertainment (which by itself is not a bad thing) but with the amount of it people are getting sitting around and not doing anything but getting fatter (crazy high obesity rates) it's not making things better.

I was going to post a reply addressing the above quoted statement... but it's too funny.
I'd rather you have the last word on this. Such a brilliant review of how technology isn't a postive trend in society. my friend I was wrong... you're an absolute genius.

open mind
12/23/06, 09:46 PM
I was going to post a reply addressing the above quoted statement... but it's too funny.
I'd rather you have the last word on this. Such a brilliant review of how technology isn't a postive trend in society. my friend I was wrong... you're an absolute genius.

you obviously don't understand what this threads subject is, i'm asking about positive things happening TODAY. past advances in technology have created a better quality of life for all, but again i'm talking about TODAY, and by and large the technology being created TODAY isn't creating a better quality of life for all TODAY.
i guess it's my fault you didn't understand that since i didn't make that clear when i started the thread though.

dw1003
12/23/06, 09:51 PM
you obviously don't understand what this threads subject is, i'm asking about positive things happening TODAY. past advances in technology have created a better quality of life for all, but again i'm talking about TODAY, and by and large the technology being created TODAY isn't creating a better quality of life for all TODAY.

sure dude... keep exercising your opinions over your broadband connection on your new computer while listening to your ipod and sending text messages on your phone, keep claiming that technology isn't improving the quality of life today...

open mind
12/23/06, 09:55 PM
sure dude... keep exercising your opinions over your broadband connection on your new computer while listening to your ipod and sending text messages on your phone, keep claiming that technology isn't improving the quality of life today...

dail-up isn't so bad, my computer is old, i like my ipod but cd's did the job, and i don't use cell phones..........the technology you mention hasn't really improved quality of life so much as it's just upped the specs on things we use to distract ourselves.

dw1003
12/23/06, 10:14 PM
dail-up isn't so bad, my computer is old, i like my ipod but cd's did the job, and i don't use cell phones..........the technology you mention hasn't really improved quality of life so much as it's just upped the specs on things we use to distract ourselves.

positive trend #1: your stupidity makes me laugh.
positive trend #2: you'll be obsolete in a few years.
positive trend #3: you're not using your cell phone to waste peoples time with stupid topics.

open mind
12/23/06, 10:18 PM
relying on insults and poor attempts of humor is a great way to get your "point" across, keep up the good work.

s.t.e.v.e.n.
12/24/06, 03:08 PM
without technology, i wouldnt be able to read this elementary argument

and by the way dw1003, didnt you give open mind the "last word" several posts ago?

open mind
12/25/06, 12:15 AM
without technology, i wouldnt be able to read this elementary argument

and by the way dw1003, didnt you give open mind the "last word" several posts ago?

another person who doesn't get what i'm attempting to talk about........

s.t.e.v.e.n.
12/25/06, 07:34 AM
another person who doesn't get what i'm attempting to talk about........


my post had nothing to do with whether or not I know what your attempting to talk about, it had to do with the fact that the back and forth between you two is strangely similar to something you might hear in a preschool sandbox.

open mind
12/25/06, 03:33 PM
my post had nothing to do with whether or not I know what your attempting to talk about, it had to do with the fact that the back and forth between you two is strangely similar to something you might hear in a preschool sandbox.

poophead

s.t.e.v.e.n.
12/25/06, 03:58 PM
poophead


haha