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worldstheory
07/10/03, 03:26 PM
Hey, just wondering how you guys feel about this subject that's been on my mind lately. I'm not one of those strict psycho freaks who say "Oh, burning CDs is a crime, and it's disrespectful to the artists, blah blah blah..." I think that's bullshit. I'm totally in support of free file-sharing. But listen to my story and you'll see where I'm coming from.

I've only been into punk/emo for a little less than two years, but ever since the beginning it's been really personal to me. For like a year after I'd gotten into this music, I only had three or four CDs, and for a few reasons. One was that I didn't have to worry about getting a CD that I didn't like so well, because I was in a little "comfort zone" with my three or four CDs. Another reason was I didn't have a job, therefore no money to buy CDs (and I didn't have a CD burner).

So about a year ago, I was at my friend's house, and he had a CD burner, and he said I could burn whatever I wanted. So I did, thinking maybe someday if I turned out to really like them, I might buy them. Then again, maybe not. Didn't matter at the time... just burn them. Worry about it later. So I burned four.

Now, like a year later, I still only have about ten legit (store-bought) CDs. But just a week or so ago, I bought one of those four CDs that I'd burned at my friend's house. (It was Finch "What it is to Burn", if that matters). And in listening to that CD, I felt really emotional, because it brought back a lot of memories of difficult emotional experiences that the burned copy had gotten me through even months before.

That feeling gave me this extreme amount of satisfaction that I had bought a real store-bought copy. I felt so grateful to the band for having done the CD, and felt that I owed them so much more than the cost of the CD.

This got me thinking that I really should go back and buy all of the CDs that I'd burned that at some point or another have gotten me through sad feelings. So then I got the idea that I should have a list of all the CDs I've burned. Whenever I burn another CD, I add it to the bottom of the list. And whenever I buy a CD from the list, I scribble it off the list.

It sounds kind of dorky, but I think it's a good idea. I feel like I owe so much to these bands, the least I can do is pay them the money they've earned for my use of these CDs. And not only that, but it makes my CD collection look so much more "real" and impressive.

What do you guys think? Am I insane? Or am I onto something? How do you guys feel about burning CDs? Do you think it's ok? Is it ok as long as you plan to buy the CD later?

kevin
07/10/03, 03:28 PM
I buy basically every CD I download. I only burn it if I can't find it, or its not out yet.

FishAlotNBePunk
07/10/03, 03:31 PM
i prefer to buy all my cds.

ReFuSeD!
07/10/03, 03:35 PM
I almost always download a CD first before I buy it. There is no way in fucking hell that I will pay $20 for a shit CD, on the other hand, if I download it and the CD kicks fucking ass, I have no problem paying the money.

This year alone I have probably downloaded about 50 albums and have BOUGHT about 25, which is still alot of money, but its worth it. The CD's that I dont buy, I usually just keep the few good songs from the album and delete the rest.

endornoise13
07/10/03, 03:48 PM
i also download before buying it, cuz i don't wanna end up buying something if i only like one song on it.

asubtledaggerx
07/10/03, 03:48 PM
I download CD's...but I never burn them. I always buy them regardles what the cost. I only burn mixes.

Greg
07/10/03, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by endornoise13
i also download before buying it, cuz i don't wanna end up buying something if i only like one song on it.

Jim Morgan
07/10/03, 03:51 PM
i download, and then buy when i have time/money

but i go to shows and buy merc hand shit

whic halso gives the bands money

NOFXdesendents5
07/10/03, 03:52 PM
I bought another Rancid CD today, Let's Go motherfuckers.:cool:

maxp87
07/10/03, 03:59 PM
i'm just curious, what do you all download your music with, and how many of you have DSL, because I have dial-up, and it takes me forever to download songs

Patrick
07/10/03, 04:05 PM
i download off Bearshare and its rad and i have dsl :D

Sean McGeezer
07/10/03, 05:04 PM
I usually download a few songs off the album I want and that way I'll have a pretty good idea if I want it or not.

I download my music off IRC. You can always find what you want, no looping crap, always good quality, released weeks to months early. Good stuff. I have DSL.

DevilMayCare
07/10/03, 05:41 PM
i download some stuff but i dont hav a CD burner so when i listen to it, its on the computer. i think of the bands who most likely wouldnt get off the ground without the people who download their songs and then buy the cd.

evil zach
07/10/03, 05:55 PM
I always buy CD's. I just down;oad stuff to sample it

SonnyPunk
07/10/03, 06:12 PM
I always buy cd's...always. I must literally have hundreds of them. CD's are alot cheaper now than ever. Alot of times when a new album comes out they sell it for like 6.99 at Target, Best Buy, or Tower and thats not a whole lot of cash to pay.
Burning albums definately hurts the music business. Thats why alot of people at labels got laid off (MCA.). The sales are dropping year to year, who knows what the future holds in store for the music business now.
For example look at Brand News Deja Entendu. They say it only soundscanned like 16,000 its first week which is really not alot of albums considering all the hype it got. And it seems to me like every body and their mother has a copy of this album. I bet if everyone that burned it actually went out and bought a copy the album would be gold by now.

gun_shy
07/10/03, 06:14 PM
wow,way to make an original topic
NOT!
who cares. i wouldnt buy half the stuff i just hear is good. like this a small victory band
sheesh

Absolute Mest
07/10/03, 06:16 PM
i only download like 3 or 4 songs from the album and if i like it, i buy it. i usually buy a cd when i go into a store.

i use iMesh to download songs on my 56K.

ReFuSeD!
07/10/03, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by mrs.skibahaha
i download off Bearshare and its rad and i have dsl :D

Bearshare fucking sucks...slowest speeds ever.

Blubster, mIRC, and Soulseek are the best IMO. Kazaa can be OK sometimes, but lots of people dont share on Kazaa and for the most part, the sound quality on alot of the songs is pretty bad.

MusicMends
07/10/03, 07:57 PM
kazaa sucks

MusicMends
07/10/03, 07:58 PM
BUY CDS

BrandNewDream
07/10/03, 09:40 PM
I download off of Kazaa, on a DSL connection.

And, I hate admitting it, but I burn 95% of my cd's...I only buy cd's that I really want or have burnt and they've become so personal to me that I want an actual copy in my hands. I bought "Deja Entendu" the day it came out, at 10 am, because I wanted an actual copy so bad. I'm doing the same with "Ocean Avenue", and possibly with "Artist In The Ambulance" and "The Resignation".

sigh
07/10/03, 09:44 PM
since i only use kazaa, i dont haev time to make cds, i just make mixes.

finch macbeth
07/11/03, 04:20 AM
I don't burn, or havn't in a very long time, i think the only album i have burned is midtowns save the world lose the girl and that was about when it came out. I usually d/l a few songs and listen and then buy or hear it somewhere else and buy. Think of if you were in a pretty big band and you looked through your friend's cd collection and you saw a burned copy of your cd. I'd be pissed off...

lessthankate
07/11/03, 05:28 AM
I always buy the cds. Its better that way.

bigweener
07/11/03, 05:35 AM
i burn mixes and some cds. i usually burn a cd i cant find, or one i dont think is worth like 20 bucks. ill buy the album if its new and i respect the band. otherwise these guys make enough money as is. a disc is worth like 80 cents, not 20 dollars. i mean some has to go for the label and the band but i think its just marked up way to high. call me cheap but ill burn till my burners broken.

suckerpunch_
07/11/03, 05:43 AM
i dont burn i buy, and thats why i have no money. but its ok

ms y o o n
07/11/03, 06:03 AM
i download music
i download cds
i burn mixes
i burn cds!

i'll buy only if its cheap and i really like the band
but most of the time i burn cds

Greg
07/11/03, 06:08 AM
i DL music then if i like it i buy it....