Vince Young's final season QB Rating is....

[mikeford]

66.7


ROY
ROY
ROY
ROY




:rolleyes:

[FondestMemory]

my respect for him would have went way way up if he were able to end one tenth lower.

[fromwithin]

my vote would go to mcneil from san diego.

[Scott Weber]

Jones-Drew ftw.

[Brownpants06]

His first season starting record?

[tambo41187]

His first season starting record?

This is a thread about Vince Young not the Titans, since record relates to the team not one single player.

[mikeford]

This is a thread about Vince Young not the Titans, since record relates to the team not one single player.

bingo.

[Brownpants06]

This is a thread about Vince Young not the Titans, since record relates to the team not one single player.

Because the Titans have the most talent around him. I would use that argument for Rivers but not for Vince Young.

Not that I completely agree, but I just think his record has be to taken into consideration.

(I think it should go to colston or jones-drew)

[FondestMemory]

Because the Titans have the most talent around him. I would use that argument for Rivers but not for Vince Young.

Not that I completely agree, but I just think his record has be to taken into consideration.

not when discussing how poor his qb rating is.

[dekdog11]

VY for roy

[mht]

Jones-Drew ftw.

dude deserves it. but those espn nfl clowns give him no love because of their over-liking to bush and young.

[Broken Parachute]

Joseph Addai?

I like Jones-Drew too. So it's hard to ay. Jones-Drew has more TD's with 13, but Addai has more yards and only 7 TD's.

Either one of them deserve it.

Who would you put 2 and 3? I'd put Jones-Drew, Colston, and then Addai. I don't think Vince Young is better than Addai.

[FondestMemory]

Joseph Addai?

I like Jones-Drew too. So it's hard to ay. Jones-Drew has more TD's with 13, but Addai has more yards and only 7 TD's.

Either one of them deserve it.

jones-drew also had three other touchdowns, giving him 16. not to mention setting a rookie record by rushing for a td in eight straight games. granted, he did this while splitting time for pretty much all of the season.

addai split time too, but he was hit or miss. jones-drew was consistently doing what he was asked to do.

i'd probably put addai fourth if i were a voter.

[FondestMemory]

Who would you put 2 and 3? I'd put Jones-Drew, Colston, and then Addai. I don't think Vince Young is better than Addai.

1. colston
2. jones-drew
3. bush
4. addai

if i were voting, that's how i'd put them. a strong argument could be made to put addai above bush, but that's just how i'd put it due to how bush effected the entire offense from day one.

[Clarity14]

1. colston
2. jones-drew
3. hester
4. bush

[wessa]

how bout some love for offensive lineman

nick mangold starter every game and played great for the jets
and marcus mcneill for the chargers, i remember reading a week or two ago that at that point he had not taken one holding penalty the whole season, that is impressive for a rookie OT

that being said, an offensive lineman will never win the ROY

Edit: i meant holding penalty instead of holding period, that's what i get for typing while im watching the sabres/islander game

[mht]

Joseph Addai?

I like Jones-Drew too. So it's hard to ay. Jones-Drew has more TD's with 13, but Addai has more yards and only 7 TD's.

Either one of them deserve it.


jones drews receiving stats and i think he returned a couple kicks for tds too, the dude was a scorer for the jags and pretty much their only weapon in game time situations.

[justinevans]

McNeil, Jones-Drew, Colston, Bush, Young in that order.

[livethesounds]

these threads should not be allowed.

[Trainsaw]

as long as reggie bush doesn't win it then i'll be satisfied, espn tries to pimp him out to anyone and the guy simply isn't ROY

[mikeford]

these threads should not be allowed.



U MAD?

dude sux

[Broken Parachute]

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[thejetstolehome]

swing and a miss.

[livethesounds]

damnit.

[Chriz2z]

these threads should not be allowed.
Your avatar is my new wallpaper.

VY wins ROY (Texas fan bias here).

[mikeford]

womp womp wommmmmmmmmmmp


douchebag.

[Broken Parachute]

damnit.http://img.adamsandler.jt.org/movies/billy_madison/earpull.jpg

That's two vBpwns

[livethesounds]

yea i tried. not sure what happend.

[mikeford]

you dont know how to post a picture, obviously

[Brownpants06]

Ms. Vaughn is sexy

[lilRIPsta]

This is a thread about Vince Young not the Titans, since record relates to the team not one single player.

while im a huge advocate for the "team wins games" statement, id haveto say he is responsible for his teams wins as any other single player in the league. he has absolutely no talent around him (minus Travis Henry who had a great year), and he made some plays that single handedly one games for them

[Scott Weber]

while im a huge advocate for the "team wins games" statement, id haveto say he is responsible for his teams wins as any other single player in the league. he has absolutely no talent around him (minus Travis Henry who had a great year), and he made some plays that single handedly one games for them
Uh, Pacman Jones? Keith Bullock?

[Drew Beringer]

Uh, Pacman Jones? Keith Bullock?

Vince Young obviously makes them a better player. Duh, Scott.

[dekdog11]

kerry collins at qb - titans = 0-16

[FondestMemory]

kerry collins at qb - titans = 0-16

kerry collins at qb - any team 0-16.

steve mcnair at qb - playoff team.

how about the game where the defense scored three tds and the offense scored none? how about the game where the kicker nailed a 60 yarder as time expired? sure, vince had his hand in winning some games, but to think he was the only reason they won so many in a row at the end is ridiculous. he's got plenty of talent around him, especially on defense. not to mention one of the better coaches in the league.

had that team not ran steve mcnair out of town, they'd be playing next weekend.

[Drew Beringer]

Kerry Collins on any team = 0-16

[Drew Beringer]

kerry collins at qb - any team 0-16.

steve mcnair at qb - playoff team.

how about the game where the defense scored three tds and the offense scored none? how about the game where the kicker nailed a 60 yarder as time expired? sure, vince had his hand in winning some games, but to think he was the only reason they won so many in a row at the end is ridiculous. he's got plenty of talent around him, especially on defense. not to mention one of the better coaches in the league.

had that team not ran steve mcnair out of town, they'd be playing next weekend.

ahahaha damn, way to have the same idea

[dekdog11]

kerry collins at qb - any team 0-16.

steve mcnair at qb - playoff team.

how about the game where the defense scored three tds and the offense scored none? how about the game where the kicker nailed a 60 yarder as time expired? sure, vince had his hand in winning some games, but to think he was the only reason they won so many in a row at the end is ridiculous. he's got plenty of talent around him, especially on defense. not to mention one of the better coaches in the league.

had that team not ran steve mcnair out of town, they'd be playing next weekend.

well im sure when they were 0-5 people weren't saying they have all this talent around them. they have a decent team that all around got better throughout the year, but i think vy played a big part in this team going 8-8. and dont remind me of that 3 td game...ugghhh jacksonville torched the titans in that game for over 400 yards...those 3 turnovers though...sigh.

and they are retarded for getting rid of mcnair.

Kerry Collins on any team = 0-16

except the giants one year! and carolina once! but yea...

[histrionics22]

The only way Vince Young wins ROTY is if he coached the defense in the last 12 games of the season.

[fluke182]

Should Be
1. Jones-Drew
2. Colston
3. Addai (Better runner overall this year than Bush)
4. Bush (Plus he had the INT!!!)
5. Vince Young

Will Be
1. Vince Young
2. Jones-Drew
3. Bush
4. Colston
5. Addai

[livethesounds]

kerry collins at qb - any team 0-16.

steve mcnair at qb - playoff team.

how about the game where the defense scored three tds and the offense scored none? how about the game where the kicker nailed a 60 yarder as time expired? sure, vince had his hand in winning some games, but to think he was the only reason they won so many in a row at the end is ridiculous. he's got plenty of talent around him, especially on defense. not to mention one of the better coaches in the league.

had that team not ran steve mcnair out of town, they'd be playing next weekend.

didint help much the last two seasons, granted he had spotty play due to injuries, but still, i dont think it would have mattered.
He had a pretty big hand in that Indy game, he basically got every 3rd down conversion for the titans. just ask Drew. haha.
he obviously wasnt the only reason, and i hope nobody actually thinks that, but he played a big part in it.

[lilRIPsta]

looks like he won it. did people really think he wouldnt ge tthe votes?

[selftitled85]

looks like he won it. did people really think he wouldnt ge tthe votes?

yes. he should not have.

[bigmike]

looks like he won it. did people really think he wouldnt ge tthe votes?
I didn't think he would, but apparently I was holding faith that a system that gives out awards would actually be trustworthy enough to elimate people who don't deserve it. Apparently I was holding nothing but blind faith.

[leftstranded]

I didn't think he would, but apparently I was holding faith that a system that gives out awards would actually be trustworthy enough to elimate people who don't deserve it. Apparently I was holding nothing but blind faith.
it's apparently all based on what the media thinks now

[FondestMemory]

yeah, awards voted on by the media have always been based on what the media thinks.

[histrionics22]

Just keep in mind Sean Salisbury and Mark Schlereth are both employed by ESPN and thus part of the media. Plus they both said they would have voted for VY. Yea, a great example of how "intelligent" the media is.

[sweethypocrisy]

Just keep in mind Sean Salisbury and Mark Schlereth are both employed by ESPN and thus part of the media. Plus they both said they would have voted for VY. Yea, a great example of how "intelligent" the media is.
thats why i said in the nfl thread i knew he was gonna win it, i saw those same two on nfl live saying vy is the only option and other bs.

[livethesounds]

i have a question. who do you guys think isint a complete blithering retard in the media. besides maybe peter gammons ive heard shots taken at pretty much everyone.

[histrionics22]

i have a question. who do you guys think isint a complete blithering retard in the media. besides maybe peter gammons ive heard shots taken at pretty much everyone.
Because most "analysts" are put on TV because of their personality, not because of their intellect.

[make_this_hurt]

i have a question. who do you guys think isint a complete blithering retard in the media. besides maybe peter gammons ive heard shots taken at pretty much everyone.
No one.

[histrionics22]

I'm pretty sure most agree Collinsworth is the best NFL analyst on tv right now.

[sweethypocrisy]

i have a question. who do you guys think isint a complete blithering retard in the media. besides maybe peter gammons ive heard shots taken at pretty much everyone.
michael smith does stuff with around the horn and some other things, i like him alot. hes usually intelligent AND entertaining.

and i like chris berman, he normally doesnt dish out his opinions but when he does they are never unbelievable dumb, plus hes fun as hell to watch recap games.

[justinevans]

I'm pretty sure most agree Collinsworth is the best NFL analyst on tv right now.

hahahahah really? nope.

[Doug]

i have a question. who do you guys think isint a complete blithering retard in the media. besides maybe peter gammons ive heard shots taken at pretty much everyone.

gammons, michael smith, bob ryan, buster olney. that's about it. even jackie macmullen is even more competent than most people, AND SHE'S A WOMAN!!

i look like a huge homer right now as far as writers, but i think dan shaughnessy and bill simmons are some of the dumber media personalities even though i read every bill simmons article.

[Doug]

oh yeah and collinsworth too.

[histrionics22]

hahahahah really? nope.
Oh sorry to disagree with YOUR opinion. Many here think he's one of the best though.

[Doug]

Oh sorry to disagree with YOUR opinion. Many here think he's one of the best though.

it's true though, his opinion is wrong

[mikeford]

i have a question. who do you guys think isint a complete blithering retard in the media. besides maybe peter gammons ive heard shots taken at pretty much everyone.

people (read: idiots) have taken shots at gammons on this board too.

[LeftWideOpen]

gammons, michael smith, bob ryan, buster olney. that's about it. even jackie macmullen is even more competent than most people, AND SHE'S A WOMAN!!

i look like a huge homer right now as far as writers, but i think dan shaughnessy and bill simmons are some of the dumber media personalities even though i read every bill simmons article.

you like olney, really? i like that he breaks a lot news stories ..but i actually can't bear to read his articles. he brings the meat though. i'm with you on the rest of the list, especially Ryan and Gammons.

as for shaugnessy, he's written one article I have ever actually enjoyed and I was so flabbergasted that I posted the link to it here a few weeks back. and bill simmons ..i read once, found completely unfunny, and never bothered to read again.

edit: he has his on and off days ..but michael wilbon is in the better half of "analysts" also. he makes the occasional absurd claim but i think he's one of the brighter sportswriters on TV.

[justinevans]

Oh sorry to disagree with YOUR opinion. Many here think he's one of the best though.

Many here think he is the worst. But actually, I think he has changed a little. In years prior, he was very biased towards a few teams. Now that he has switched to the NFL network he seems more objective. Maybe the Fox people asked him to be that way :shrug:?

[justinevans]

gammons, michael smith, bob ryan, buster olney. that's about it. even jackie macmullen is even more competent than most people, AND SHE'S A WOMAN!!

i look like a huge homer right now as far as writers, but i think dan shaughnessy and bill simmons are some of the dumber media personalities even though i read every bill simmons article.

Gammons is good, but he does show his Boston bias sometimes. I really like Michael Smith. It sucks that Philly has the worst fucking writer, media person in the history of sports. Stephen A. fucking Smith.

[MIKEY_HORROR]

Jones-Drew
Young
Colston
Bush

[selftitled85]

gammons, michael smith, bob ryan, buster olney. that's about it. even jackie macmullen is even more competent than most people, AND SHE'S A WOMAN!!

i look like a huge homer right now as far as writers, but i think dan shaughnessy and bill simmons are some of the dumber media personalities even though i read every bill simmons article.

i think bill simmons is funny as hell and very smart. AND IM A YANKEE FAN!