How to fix the boards...

[BustaNutz]

I have been a member of these forums for 5 months now, and in that time I have seen them doing well and seen them doing poorly. Lately the forums have been dead. So here is a list of problems and a list of possible solutions to help get the forums back to a good state.

First of all I think we have a huge problem with wasted posts and threads. People have a habit (especially of late) of making posts and threads that are absolutely pointless. Threads declaring a love of soap or that you are drunk don't need to exist. When I think about this problem I can think of two culprits who stick out the most, Lisha and Byron. I have never seen any semblance of a relevant post from either of these two and honestly I doubt they have the mental capacity. That being said the ability to fix this rests solely in the hands of the moderators. On other forums if you post something dumb, it gets deleted. There is no argument and no explanation the moderators just delete the unnecessary posts. This is what we need to do on the forums. Now I know there are a lot of posts and that this may be considered a pretty big job, but eventually it would register in most people's mind that if the posts are stupid and pointless, they're going to be deleted so we shouldn't waste our time making dumb ones.

Now I understand this creates a problem with what is pointless, and whether the moderators should be able to decide arbitrarily what is and isn’t a pointless post. But I trust Brandon and Bill and their judgment, so I don't think much of a problem would arise at all.

The other problem with wasted posts comes from people who give one word replies or who quote someone else's point and add nothing. If you're going to do this, don't post. It wastes space.

Second is the problem of repetitive threads. Once again it should be the job of the moderator to delete duplicate threads. We need only one thread discussing TBS' breakup, and we need just one praising Deja Entendu.

Another problem is the bandwidth. To solve this all that needs to happen is Tate must make it so that you must sign in to view comments on news items. Having thirty guests on the forum using half the bandwidth is unfair to the people who enjoy posting on the forums, so Tate needs to make it so you must sign in to view comments to fix this.

Next up is grammar. I think this could improve quite a bit. I know that not everyone attends Princeton (ahem) but I have to believe everyone knows how to punctuate. And please, read your posts before you send them, you can usually catch quite a few misspellings and errors this way. I don't have perfect grammar, but mine is better than most and all I do is take an extra minute to glance over my posts before I submit them, it's easy and it makes your posts a lot more intelligible.

And finally, I think we need to remember the forum is to discuss, so let's discuss, and let's do it intelligently. Just try to make an effort to be intelligent and avoid being unnecessarily dumb. Joking is fine, and I don’t even mind flaming, so long as it’s done intelligently and is appropriate.

This is a list of suggestions meant to be discussed intelligently. So please do, and add anything you can possibly think of to get the forums back to a point where it’s actually engaging to sign in and post.

[NOFXdesendents5]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
I have been a member of these forums for 5 months now, and in that time I have seen them doing well and seen them doing poorly. Lately the forums have been dead. So here is a list of problems and a list of possible solutions to help get the forums back to a good state.

First of all I think we have a huge problem with wasted posts and threads. People have a habit (especially of late) of making posts and threads that are absolutely pointless. Threads declaring a love of soap or that you are drunk don't need to exist. When I think about this problem I can think of two culprits who stick out the most, Lisha and Byron. I have never seen any semblance of a relevant post from either of these two and honestly I doubt they have the mental capacity. That being said the ability to fix this rests solely in the hands of the moderators. On other forums if you post something dumb, it gets deleted. There is no argument and no explanation the moderators just delete the unnecessary posts. This is what we need to do on the forums. Now I know there are a lot of posts and that this may be considered a pretty big job, but eventually it would register in most people's mind that if the posts are stupid and pointless, they're going to be deleted so we shouldn't waste our time making dumb ones.

Now I understand this creates a problem with what is pointless, and whether the moderators should be able to decide arbitrarily what is and isn’t a pointless post. But I trust Brandon and Bill and their judgment, so I don't think much of a problem would arise at all.

The other problem with wasted posts comes from people who give one word replies or who quote someone else's point and add nothing. If you're going to do this, don't post. It wastes space.

Second is the problem of repetitive threads. Once again it should be the job of the moderator to delete duplicate threads. We need only one thread discussing TBS' breakup, and we need just one praising Deja Entendu.

Another problem is the bandwidth. To solve this all that needs to happen is Tate must make it so that you must sign in to view comments on news items. Having thirty guests on the forum using half the bandwidth is unfair to the people who enjoy posting on the forums, so Tate needs to make it so you must sign in to view comments to fix this.

Next up is grammar. I think this could improve quite a bit. I know that not everyone attends Princeton (ahem) but I have to believe everyone knows how to punctuate. And please, read your posts before you send them, you can usually catch quite a few misspellings and errors this way. I don't have perfect grammar, but mine is better than most and all I do is take an extra minute to glance over my posts before I submit them, it's easy and it makes your posts a lot more intelligible.

And finally, I think we need to remember the forum is to discuss, so let's discuss, and let's do it intelligently. Just try to make an effort to be intelligent and avoid being unnecessarily dumb. Joking is fine, and I don’t even mind flaming, so long as it’s done intelligently and is appropriate.

This is a list of suggestions meant to be discussed intelligently. So please do, and add anything you can possibly think of to get the forums back to a point where it’s actually engaging to sign in and post.

Yeah! februaryXcore!

[sigh]

of course, an intelligent conversation drops to page 4 in one day:rolleyes:
Well, the other forums ive been to have been pretty strict, swearing was pretty frowned upon and spamming like ppl here have been doing is almost unheard of. This is a fresh breath of air.

[Jim Morgan]

beautiful...

well said

all in one post

you are a true god my friend

[sigh]

why thank you:D

[torch]

That was well needed. Thanks.

[Clarett'sGreyGoose]

::applause::

Bravo. You my friend, must be following Devin's path to the Ivy League.

[sigh]

what school is devin going to?

[BustaNutz]

Originally posted by sigh
what school is devin going to?

Devin is going to Princeton. I will most likely be attending the University of Miami, The University of Georgia, The University of Virginia or Northwestern (sadly I can't get into any Ivy league schools).

[ms y o o n]

pat that was good

i tried to say something about the dicussion part, but i don't think anybody heard. im usually good at the punctuation part, unless im angry or something, although i don't use capitals.

if this actually works, and people somewhat listen to this, then maybe this place will be enjoyable

[FishAlotNBePunk]

i cunt speel wurth sheet!!!

[steve-0]

the bandwidth is the biggest problem i think. your idea is a good one. or maybe put the comments on the news back to how they used to, not connected to the boards.

[ms y o o n]

Originally posted by steve-0
the bandwidth is the biggest problem i think. your idea is a good one. or maybe put the comments on the news back to how they used to, not connected to the boards.

bandwidth is a huge problem, but it doesn't fix the stupidity of some people on the boards.
it would work if we ALL worked together... and somehow fix it up

[papathomas]

I agree that bandwidth is a huge problem. No one wants to post in a forum that they can't even get into. The guest also take way too much bandwidth, they should have to register to view threads. Some of them wouldn't take the time to register and therefore wouldn't log into the forum.

As for the Brand New, Taking Back Sunday and all those other bands maybe we can make seperate forums for band discussion.

I completely agree with Pat about grammar and trying to keep posts intellectual and relevant. We have numerous idiots posting shit that I would rather breathe saw dust than read. I am not sure how to solve this though other than flame them constantly, but that hasn't worked with people like Mrs. Skiba.

[kevin]

Pat, no offense, but who cares about the pointless threads? This is a forum, everyone is just here to kill time. I think you are making too big a deal about this.

[Greg]

Originally posted by kevin
Pat, no offense, but who cares about the pointless threads? This is a forum, everyone is just here to kill time. I think you are making too big a deal about this.

some pointless thread are funny now and then i agree. but soem recently have been pretty stupid... like that one about horney guys or whatever. that didn't need to happen....

[kevin]

But it makes the forum interesting. If all we had were serious threads, it really wouldn't be that fun.

[ms y o o n]

Originally posted by kevin
But it makes the forum interesting. If all we had were serious threads, it really wouldn't be that fun.

true
but we need DISCUSSION within them
not

i agree answers. you know like he said.. not just one word answers. we should discuss!

[Greg]

Originally posted by kevin
But it makes the forum interesting. If all we had were serious threads, it really wouldn't be that fun.

well like i said some are funny. but you have to admit some are really dumb and just plain NOT funny... but yea some of them make the forum more interesting.

[BrandNewDream]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
Devin is going to Princeton. I will most likely be attending the University of Miami, The University of Georgia, The University of Virginia or Northwestern (sadly I can't get into any Ivy league schools).

I want to transfer into an Ivy, most likely Princeton. I'll be attending The College Of New Jersey in the fall. Busta, no worries...those are great schools you listed, also.

[BustaNutz]

I don't mind goofy threads and joking, I said that. But only to a certain extent many are quite dumb, and don't need to be left up.

[hot damn!]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
I don't mind goofy threads and joking, I said that. But only to a certain extent many are quite dumb, and don't need to be left up. I agree but threads like, NORTH TEXAS KICKS ASS OMFG LOL111!!! will be deleted. If you guys want me to get strict, I can. I will start deleting threads that lack any sort of content and intelligence.

[Patrick]

Northwestern owns out of the schools you posted.

[PnKrCk]

ok

[ms y o o n]

Originally posted by PnKrCk
ok


you're just doing the things pat said you shouldn't have. one word answers which are irrelevant to the topic. discuss dammit

[BustaNutz]

Originally posted by nihilism
I agree but threads like, NORTH TEXAS KICKS ASS OMFG LOL111!!! will be deleted. If you guys want me to get strict, I can. I will start deleting threads that lack any sort of content and intelligence.

Yes that sounds good actually. I'm not saying to get rid of every thread, but there are threads which are just idiotic and don't need to be left up. And also maybe the threads which are constantly remade, for instance all the senses fails threads, the Driv-Thru dropping Steel Train threads and the TBS threads. I think it would help make the boards a bit more interesting.

[wasted]

Originally posted by BustaNutz
Yes that sounds good actually. I'm not saying to get rid of every thread, but there are threads which are just idiotic and don't need to be left up. And also maybe the threads which are constantly remade, for instance all the senses fails threads, the Driv-Thru dropping Steel Train threads and the TBS threads. I think it would help make the boards a bit more interesting.

i noticed that the search function is disabled, and i think that threads wouldn't constantly be remade if it worked. some people are too lazy to look and see if there have already been threads made about their topic, and it would be much easier to be able to use the search for it. i'm not saying that everytime you consider making a thread you should search to see if someone has already thought of that, but if there's some question that it has been, you should use the search to see.

[Beck]

Cough.

[bassist83086]

hey i am there

[James Johnson]

whoa

[melvicious]

I bet it is that pesky grammer!

[charly horse]

I was super dumb. :-\

[knux]

so yah. why was this bumped i dont get it. maybe he is saying same problem?

[the_champ_is_here]

This message is hidden because Patrick is on your ignore list.

owned


I miss my friends :(

[charly horse]

This message is hidden because Patrick is on your ignore list.

owned


I miss my friends :(
Knifeparty much?

[the_champ_is_here]

Knifeparty much?

Kevin, Pat, Hannah, Bill, Sean, other Sean, Chris, Matt, none of those kids post there anymore

[charly horse]

Kevin, Pat, Hannah, Bill, Sean, other Sean, Chris, Matt, none of those kids post there anymore
Because they got lives? Unlike us?

[Tyler Revolution]

Three words: fuck knife party.

[bassist83086]

Three words: fuck knife party.
i can agree to that haha

[TMartin442]

so in '03 there were already threads about the how much everyone loved SOAP? weird

[bassist83086]

so in '03 there were already threads about the how much everyone loved SOAP? weird

wait now i get it. but lame.

[charly horse]

I guess I don't get the SOAP thing...

[Domenic182]

Haha, this thread is so old school.
I was still in pampers.

[Ratherbedead22]

who are you people?

[Blake Solomon]

where am i?

[TMartin442]

where am i?

hell

[Blake Solomon]

hell



looks like missouri from where im sitting... so i guess youre right.

[bassist83086]

who are you people?
look at the date of the first so many posts

[Blake Solomon]

look at the date of the first so many posts


i think it was a joke.

[bassist83086]

i think it was a joke.
you never really know

[SkaBum14]

I bet it is that pesky grammer!

Or spelling?

[SteveLikesMusic]

See what you gotta do is grab the Raccoon by the tail and then put it in shed with the jello, know I mean?

[leftstranded]

bringing back an old one

[bassist83086]

bringing back an old one
i think if everyone read it. the boards would be a better place.

[EnderDove]

I have been a member of these forums for 5 months now, and in that time I have seen them doing well and seen them doing poorly. Lately the forums have been dead. So here is a list of problems and a list of possible solutions to help get the forums back to a good state.

First of all I think we have a huge problem with wasted posts and threads. People have a habit (especially of late) of making posts and threads that are absolutely pointless. Threads declaring a love of soap or that you are drunk don't need to exist. When I think about this problem I can think of two culprits who stick out the most, Lisha and Byron. I have never seen any semblance of a relevant post from either of these two and honestly I doubt they have the mental capacity. That being said the ability to fix this rests solely in the hands of the moderators. On other forums if you post something dumb, it gets deleted. There is no argument and no explanation the moderators just delete the unnecessary posts. This is what we need to do on the forums. Now I know there are a lot of posts and that this may be considered a pretty big job, but eventually it would register in most people's mind that if the posts are stupid and pointless, they're going to be deleted so we shouldn't waste our time making dumb ones.

Now I understand this creates a problem with what is pointless, and whether the moderators should be able to decide arbitrarily what is and isn’t a pointless post. But I trust Brandon and Bill and their judgment, so I don't think much of a problem would arise at all.

The other problem with wasted posts comes from people who give one word replies or who quote someone else's point and add nothing. If you're going to do this, don't post. It wastes space.

Second is the problem of repetitive threads. Once again it should be the job of the moderator to delete duplicate threads. We need only one thread discussing TBS' breakup, and we need just one praising Deja Entendu.

Another problem is the bandwidth. To solve this all that needs to happen is Tate must make it so that you must sign in to view comments on news items. Having thirty guests on the forum using half the bandwidth is unfair to the people who enjoy posting on the forums, so Tate needs to make it so you must sign in to view comments to fix this.

Next up is grammar. I think this could improve quite a bit. I know that not everyone attends Princeton (ahem) but I have to believe everyone knows how to punctuate. And please, read your posts before you send them, you can usually catch quite a few misspellings and errors this way. I don't have perfect grammar, but mine is better than most and all I do is take an extra minute to glance over my posts before I submit them, it's easy and it makes your posts a lot more intelligible.

And finally, I think we need to remember the forum is to discuss, so let's discuss, and let's do it intelligently. Just try to make an effort to be intelligent and avoid being unnecessarily dumb. Joking is fine, and I don’t even mind flaming, so long as it’s done intelligently and is appropriate.

This is a list of suggestions meant to be discussed intelligently. So please do, and add anything you can possibly think of to get the forums back to a point where it’s actually engaging to sign in and post.

I like your ideas but nothing will change.

[bassist83086]

I like your ideas but nothing will change.
well 3 years later and his ideas all still ring true.... but it shows how much AP has or hasnt changed since then.

[EnderDove]

well 3 years later and his ideas all still ring true.... but it shows how much AP has or hasnt changed since then.

Haha, I just saw that it was old. Yeah, nothing has changed, nothing will change. It's like beating a dead horse.

[bassist83086]

Haha, I just saw that it was old. Yeah, nothing has changed, nothing will change. It's like beating a dead horse.
the only thing that changes is the people. but the same problems still happen.

[EnderDove]

the only thing that changes is the people. but the same problems still happen.

The people get worse and worse. :-(

[bassist83086]

The people get worse and worse. :-(
eh... it has been worse than it is right now. not that right now is great or anything. but i have seen worse.

[ndtitr]

Who the hell pulled this out of the archives geez. I do think that those points were pretty valid and may possibly still be today.

[burntheaction]

Whoever brought this back: I think I love you.

[bassist83086]

Who the hell pulled this out of the archives geez. I do think that those points were pretty valid and may possibly still be today.
they are all still very valid today

[Tyler Revolution]

The people get worse and worse. :-(

It's been alot worse than it is now.

[Alex Djaferis]

It's been alot worse than it is now.

thats pushing it. the forums are terrible at the moment.


i say that...and yet im sort of back.

[BridgesFolly]

I do agree with the fact that there are alot of random and pretty pointless threads (like the 4 "official bridges folly ............" threads. honestly. one was silly enough, though flattering, but FOUR? my god.)

getting off topic. I do agree, but at the same time i dont think there should be "rules" of what you should and should not be able to post. If someone wants to leave a one word response, let them. its entertaining, even if at times annoying, and isnt the point of these forumes to talk and discuss freely as you wish?

[Stereo Mike]

(like the 4 "official bridges folly ............" threads. honestly. one was silly enough, though flattering, but FOUR? my god.)
Wholly annoying.

[BridgesFolly]

Wholly annoying.

me? or the threads?

[Stereo Mike]

me? or the threads?
Ze Threads, silly.

[BridgesFolly]

Ze Threads, silly.

oh. whew. i was hoping it wouldnt be held against me. i honestly dont want people to think that im begging for attention with threads i didnt create.

it is flattering, but i know is also annoying to everyone else. and it makes me seem like a coneited bitch.

[Stereo Mike]

oh. whew. i was hoping it wouldnt be held against me. i honestly dont want people to think that im begging for attention with threads i didnt create.

it is flattering, but i know is also annoying to everyone else. and it makes me seem like a coneited bitch.
bRiDgEz fOlLy iS sO hAwT!

[BridgesFolly]

bRiDgEz fOlLy iS sO hAwT!


:-|

[Stereo Mike]

:-|
Yeh.

[BridgesFolly]

Yeh.


like i said, though it is flattering, its a tiny bit annoying. what if i just take all my pictures off?

[Stereo Mike]

like i said, though it is flattering, its a tiny bit annoying. what if i just take all my pictures off?
You could do that.

But people would cry.

[jaimej]

You all bitch about how bad the forums are. Change them. It's that simple.

[justbishop]

For the record, I'd just like to say that my BridgesFolly thread was started only after I mentioned the idea as a complete joke, and she told me I should b/c it would be funny. And also: http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=174902

I thought it was relevant.

[Adeniz19]

hahaha this thread is awesome... people bitch about how bad the forums are now but it sounds like they were the same way 3 years ago.. the only difference is the people complaining

[whiteboypain]

I have been a member of these forums for 5 months now, and in that time I have seen them doing well and seen them doing poorly. Lately the forums have been dead. So here is a list of problems and a list of possible solutions to help get the forums back to a good state.

First of all I think we have a huge problem with wasted posts and threads. People have a habit (especially of late) of making posts and threads that are absolutely pointless. Threads declaring a love of soap or that you are drunk don't need to exist. When I think about this problem I can think of two culprits who stick out the most, Lisha and Byron. I have never seen any semblance of a relevant post from either of these two and honestly I doubt they have the mental capacity. That being said the ability to fix this rests solely in the hands of the moderators. On other forums if you post something dumb, it gets deleted. There is no argument and no explanation the moderators just delete the unnecessary posts. This is what we need to do on the forums. Now I know there are a lot of posts and that this may be considered a pretty big job, but eventually it would register in most people's mind that if the posts are stupid and pointless, they're going to be deleted so we shouldn't waste our time making dumb ones.

Now I understand this creates a problem with what is pointless, and whether the moderators should be able to decide arbitrarily what is and isn’t a pointless post. But I trust Brandon and Bill and their judgment, so I don't think much of a problem would arise at all.

The other problem with wasted posts comes from people who give one word replies or who quote someone else's point and add nothing. If you're going to do this, don't post. It wastes space.

Second is the problem of repetitive threads. Once again it should be the job of the moderator to delete duplicate threads. We need only one thread discussing TBS' breakup, and we need just one praising Deja Entendu.

Another problem is the bandwidth. To solve this all that needs to happen is Tate must make it so that you must sign in to view comments on news items. Having thirty guests on the forum using half the bandwidth is unfair to the people who enjoy posting on the forums, so Tate needs to make it so you must sign in to view comments to fix this.

Next up is grammar. I think this could improve quite a bit. I know that not everyone attends Princeton (ahem) but I have to believe everyone knows how to punctuate. And please, read your posts before you send them, you can usually catch quite a few misspellings and errors this way. I don't have perfect grammar, but mine is better than most and all I do is take an extra minute to glance over my posts before I submit them, it's easy and it makes your posts a lot more intelligible.

And finally, I think we need to remember the forum is to discuss, so let's discuss, and let's do it intelligently. Just try to make an effort to be intelligent and avoid being unnecessarily dumb. Joking is fine, and I don’t even mind flaming, so long as it’s done intelligently and is appropriate.

This is a list of suggestions meant to be discussed intelligently. So please do, and add anything you can possibly think of to get the forums back to a point where it’s actually engaging to sign in and post.



hhahaha. that was me!!! :-p i'm sorry bustanut or whatever the fuck your username is but i will post whatever pleases me. thank-you.

[Lueda Alia]

hhahaha. that was me!!! :-p i'm sorry bustanut or whatever the fuck your username is but i will post whatever pleases me. thank-you.
Did you ever notice the year that was posted? :rolleyes:

[Tyler Revolution]

thats pushing it. the forums are terrible at the moment.


i say that...and yet im sort of back.

Yeah, they aren't the best right now... but they have been plenty more shitty.

[Tyler Revolution]

hhahaha. that was me!!! :-p i'm sorry bustanut or whatever the fuck your username is but i will post whatever pleases me. thank-you.

You're a dumbass.