AP All Century Team (MLB)

[ForlrnPerplxity]

So, just looking to get some feedback on how you all want to do this. Somebody suggested voting for the all-time best players in the 2000's, but I think it would be a lot better to go in more depth and do it since 1900. It'd be better for people looking up info. and giving a lot of arguments. So, just post in here and give some suggestions on what to do.

[shOcktreAtmEnt]

I would go since 1900, just because there are only 6 years to go by in the 2000's

[thejetstolehome]

my outfield would be mays, mantle, ruth and that's all i know so far. i'll be racking my brain for the next few days with this.

[Broken Parachute]

Anyone accused of steroids, whether they have great stats or not, should be left off from the start.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Well, if we're doing 1900+, we need to start nominating catchers so I can get this thing rolling with a poll.

[Smithers]

ted williams. the greatest hitter who ever lived.

for catchers:

johnny bench (my pick)
yogi berra
roy campanella
carlton fisk
mike piazza
thurman munson ?

[ForlrnPerplxity]

I'll pick 10 or so from each position once people nominate them each round.

[Broken Parachute]

Here are some of my picks.

C: Johnny Bench, Mike Piazza, Josh Gibson (greatest Negro league catcher ever, I'd say he could be mentioned)

1B: Pete Rose (I'll put him here), Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx

2B: Joe Morgan, Ryne Sandberg, Rogers Hornsby? (he played 2B?)

3B: Brooks Robinson, Mike Schmidt, Cal Ripken Jr.

SS: Pee Wee Reese, Ozzie Smith, Ernie Banks

OF: Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Joe Dimaggio, Ted Williams, Roberto Clemente, Ken Griffey Jr.

Pitchers: Walter Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Christy Matthewson, Satchell Paige, Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, Greg Maddux

[MIKEY_HORROR]

I would definately put Ernie Banks at Shortstop
and
Nolan Ryan as one of my Pitchers

[MIKEY_HORROR]

first base: Lou Gehrig, Harmon Killebrew, Jimmie Foxx, or Pete Rose
second base: Rod Carew, Joe Morgan, Ryan Sandberg, or Jackie Robinson
third base: Mike Schmidt, Cal Ripken Jr, Brooks Robinson, or Wade Boggs
catcher: Johnny Bench, Yogi Berra, Roy Campenella, or Carlton Fisk
shortstop: Ernie Banks, Ozzie Smith, A-Rod, or Robin Yount
left field: Lou Brock, Willie Stargell, Ted Williams, or Carl Yetzstrumski (sp)
center field: Joe Dimmagio, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, or Ty Cobb
right field: Babe Ruth, Reggie Jackson, Hank Aaron, or Roberto Clemente
pitcher: Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemons, Satchel Paige, Sandy Koufax, Cy Young or Warren Spahn

[Broken Parachute]

Roger Clemens is a fuckhead. I like your list, though. I forgot about Jackie Robinson.

[MIKEY_HORROR]

Roger Clemens is a fuckhead. I like your list, though. I forgot about Jackie Robinson.


i agree that he is, but he is one of the best pitchers of our time imo, and although i dont like him..i'd want him on my team. haha

and thanks

[Smithers]

1B: gehrig
2B: jackie robinson
3B: schmidt
SS: banks
LF: williams
CF: mays
RF: clemente
C: bench
P: walter johnson, clemens, koufax, gibson, pedro

[DaveFeelsRight]

C: Carlton Fisk

[ForlrnPerplxity]

I can't believe nobody has mentioned Cochrane.

My top 3 catchers are: Berra, Bench, Cochrane

[Anton Djamoos]

I would put Griffey on this list if 2000 and on wasn't counting.

[thejetstolehome]

Here are some of my picks.

C: Johnny Bench, Mike Piazza, Josh Gibson (greatest Negro league catcher ever, I'd say he could be mentioned)

1B: Pete Rose (I'll put him here), Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx

2B: Joe Morgan, Ryne Sandberg, Rogers Hornsby? (he played 2B?)

3B: Brooks Robinson, Mike Schmidt, Cal Ripken Jr.

SS: Pee Wee Reese, Ozzie Smith, Ernie Banks

OF: Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Joe Dimaggio, Ted Williams, Roberto Clemente, Ken Griffey Jr.

Pitchers: Walter Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Christy Matthewson, Satchell Paige, Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, Greg Maddux

i love this team.

[mikeford]

ANYONE WHO DOESNT HAVE TY COBB FORFEITS THEIR RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT BASEBALL.




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[justinevans]

I will include a DH just because Ted Williams needs to be on the list.

C - Gibson - don't care what league he played in, Bench
1b - Gehrig, Rose, Foxx
2b - Hornsby, Robinson, Carew
3B - Schmidt, B. Robinson
SS - Banks, Wagner, Ripken Jr.
OF - Ruth, Cobb, Aaron, Mays, DiMaggio, Mantle
DH - Ted Williams, Albert Pujols

SP - Gibson, Koufax, Young (does he count), Mathewson, Carlton, Clemens, Ryan, Johnson, Spahn

[bduke13]

Here are some of my picks.

C: Johnny Bench, Mike Piazza, Josh Gibson (greatest Negro league catcher ever, I'd say he could be mentioned)

1B: Pete Rose (I'll put him here), Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx

2B: Joe Morgan, Ryne Sandberg, Rogers Hornsby? (he played 2B?)

3B: Brooks Robinson, Mike Schmidt, Cal Ripken Jr.

SS: Pee Wee Reese, Ozzie Smith, Ernie Banks

OF: Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Joe Dimaggio, Ted Williams, Roberto Clemente, Ken Griffey Jr.

Pitchers: Walter Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Christy Matthewson, Satchell Paige, Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, Greg Maddux

Should put Cal as SS since he only played 3B late in his career

[Broken Parachute]

ANYONE WHO DOESNT HAVE TY COBB FORFEITS THEIR RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT BASEBALL.




xUmm no. He sucked.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Ty Cobb wanted to play, but none of us could stand the son of a bitch when we were alive, so we told him to stick it!

[rcrook]

Ty Cobb wanted to play, but none of us could stand the son of a bitch when we were alive, so we told him to stick it!


haha ray liotta in field of dreams

[ForlrnPerplxity]

nominees for catchers, so far I have:
Bench, Berra, Campanella, Fisk, Cochrane, Piazza

I'd like to get 10 before starting a poll.

edit:
Here are some others I'd like to nominate:
Gabby Hartnett
Bill Dickey
Ted Simmons
Ivan Rodriguez
Ernie Lombardi

So, just nominate more or help me narrow it to 10.

[bigmike]

ANYONE WHO DOESNT HAVE TY COBB FORFEITS THEIR RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT BASEBALL.




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basically.


and I think 1900 is just too far back. I'd be game for something from 1990 - present. It'll be kind of stupid, IMO, to argue who was better when dudes played 70 years before anyone posting here was born.

[mikeford]

Umm no. He sucked.

even if youre joking, shut the fuck up

[shOcktreAtmEnt]

basically.


and I think 1900 is just too far back. I'd be game for something from 1990 - present. It'll be kind of stupid, IMO, to argue who was better when dudes played 70 years before anyone posting here was born.
Maybe like 1950? At first I said 1900 but now I can see why 1950 is probably more appropriate.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

basically.


and I think 1900 is just too far back. I'd be game for something from 1990 - present. It'll be kind of stupid, IMO, to argue who was better when dudes played 70 years before anyone posting here was born.
1990-present doesn't even really present a good debate. Look at the stats, compare them to the game and players at the time, and just choose. Doesn't seem stupid to me. It's been done numerous times.

[bigmike]

yeah, it's been done numerous times. the All-Century team MLB did a few years ago is adequate for this. I just don't see the point in trying to replicate it using people who played 50, 60, 70, 80, years ago. I'm all for debating the past and players and i like talking about the history of baseball, or other sports, but i just think it's way too wide of a range.

[make_this_hurt]

Barry Bonds, ftw.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Well, maybe we can come at a compromise like someone else said: 1950-present. I really don't see the difference though. I just don't see how a 1990-present would bring that good of a discussion, especially considering a lot of the stars have steroids surrounding them.

[avengedtbs]

well all century is done...i think honus wagner at 2B should be thrown into the conversation

[thejetstolehome]

well all century is done...i think honus wagner at 2B should be thrown into the conversation

yeah, that'd be great if he were actually a 2B. he played shortstop. ;-)

[make_this_hurt]

yeah, that'd be great if he were actually a 2B. he played shortstop. ;-)
Lolz.

Way to pwn n00bs Matt.

[avengedtbs]

ah shit....

[Broken Parachute]

even if youre joking, shut the fuck upSomeone's in a bad mood.

[Smithers]

basically.


and I think 1900 is just too far back. I'd be game for something from 1990 - present. It'll be kind of stupid, IMO, to argue who was better when dudes played 70 years before anyone posting here was born.

i agree. i'm of the belief that early baseball might have been easy. i know it sounds weird but what if wagner and cap anson and the early 1900 people were only good because the pitchers sucked. i've always wondered why the batting averages were so high then.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

I think we should start from 1930+, since that's when players started adapting to Ruth and pretty much was the foundation of the game we see today.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

i agree. i'm of the belief that early baseball might have been easy. i know it sounds weird but what if wagner and cap anson and the early 1900 people were only good because the pitchers sucked. i've always wondered why the batting averages were so high then.
The pitchers didn't suck. It was just a completely different game then. They didn't have anything resembling the gloves we have today, the balls were mush, and the outfield fences stretched to oblivion.

[lilRIPsta]

C: Bench (No brainer for me.BTW i dont understand how people have Fish and Piazza over IROD)
1B: Lou Gehrig
2b: Rogers Hornsby (i think hands down the greatest 2nd basemen ever to live)
3b: George Brett (surprised no one mentioned him)
SS: Honus Wagner (Ended Career as the greatest player ever)
OF: Ty Cobb (Duh)
OF: Ted Williams (best hitter ever)
OF: Babe Ruth (best player ever)

[ForlrnPerplxity]

So, are we doing this? I still say 1930+ since that's basically when baseball started coming of age.

[justinevans]

Jeff Weaver

/thread =).

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Jeff Weaver

/thread =).
Jeff Weaver and Jeff Suppan obviously lead the list.

[StandMyBrothers]

Josh Towers!!!

[thejetstolehome]

Josh Towers!!!

best.
pitcher.
ever.

[FinchBulldog2]

Bret Saberhagen

[youkwalks]

C: Yogi Berra
1B: Lou Gehrig
2B: Eddie Collins (great obp and good fielder)
SS: Honus Wagner
3B: Mike Schmidt
LF: Ted Williams
CF: Ty Cobb (I wanted mays, but Cobb is my lead off man)
RF: Babe Ruth

SP: Pedro Martinez, Roger Clemens, Sandy Koufax, Cy Young, and Lefty Grove.

god damn this team would own.