No DirecTV? No MLB Extra Innings.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

what a bunch of shit (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/20/sports/baseball/20base.html?_r=1&oref=slogin)

mother fucker son of a fucking fuck.

[Smithers]

fuck fuck fuck. i heard this rumor but i only thought it was just a rumor.

i'm guessing you're in the same boat as me; sox fan in jersey.

fuck fuck fuck.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

That does suck, but I like MLBTV on the internet better.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

mlbtv is ok, but watching on a tv > watching on a computer anyday.

and dont give me any of that just hook it up to a tv nonsense, because the sound and video do not even compare to when its straight cable.

[Smithers]

mlbtv is ok, but watching on a tv > watching on a computer anyday.

and dont give me any of that just hook it up to a tv nonsense, because the sound and video do not even compare to when its straight cable.

plus you can only watch it in that room, as opposed to anywhere in your home.

well maybe in 2 years i'll switch over. how's the HD on directTV anyway?

[Trainsaw]

plus you can only watch it in that room, as opposed to anywhere in your home.

well maybe in 2 years i'll switch over. how's the HD on directTV anyway?

Dish has more, but Direct says they're gonna be lunching a lot coming up

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

2 satellites launching soon which means they could carry about 150 HD channels.

regardless this is terrible.

money > consumer

[ForlrnPerplxity]

mlbtv is ok, but watching on a tv > watching on a computer anyday.

and dont give me any of that just hook it up to a tv nonsense, because the sound and video do not even compare to when its straight cable.
yeah, but it's good if you're gone from the house half of the time. i like it because you can get on any computer you want and watch a game. also makes it a lot easier to split the cost with some people.

[Trainsaw]

2 satellites launching soon which means they could carry about 150 HD channels.

regardless this is terrible.

money > consumer

yeah its gonna drive up the prices, but DTV was releasing a price increase soon anyways

[imirish06]

ack I'm happy. I was afraid I was going to miss out on the Phils since moving to direct tv

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

but EI was always available on DirecTV....

[cantnokdahustle]

mother fucker!

I did MLB.TV 2 seasons ago, has the quality gotten better, cause it was shit when I had it.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

its OK, but certainly nowhere near as good as the cable package was.

[cantnokdahustle]

its OK, but certainly nowhere near as good as the cable package was.

Obviously. Hopefully we'll be able to watch it on the Wii.

[shOcktreAtmEnt]

How much does MLBTV cost

[ForlrnPerplxity]

How much does MLBTV cost
it used to be $80 for the whole year. although, you can pay from a month to month basis. they also have a Spring Training going for $15.

[shOcktreAtmEnt]

it used to be $80 for the whole year. although, you can pay from a month to month basis. they also have a Spring Training going for $15.
Nice. I'll probably look into that stuff when I go away to college

[Split2nd]

mlb.tv's quality still sucks dick. I'd pay the extra money for Extra Innings everyday of the week

[cantnokdahustle]

...So we're completely fucked. The thought of a season full of Astros' games makes me fucking cringe.

[justinevans]

oh well, I have my teams on every night.

[Smithers]

well i hate to give in to the man, but this is enough reason to get DTV. between this and the NFL, it might be worth it. but i am skeptical on the HD. who knows.

[mikeford]

maybe you guys should just give in an live in boston, ya carpetbaggers


but seriously this is really gay cuz im moving to chicago in a little more than a year and theres no way ill be affording directtv.

[Smithers]

maybe you guys should just give in an live in boston, ya carpetbaggers


but seriously this is really gay cuz im moving to chicago in a little more than a year and theres no way ill be affording directtv.

its funny, i've lived in jersey all my life, so the first 20 years i only saw the red sox against the yankees or on random ESPN nights. i guess i'm spoiled now that i've had EI the last couple years.

i'm just glad this is two years away, if it started immediately, i'd flip shit. i wanna see dice-k pitch.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

it really effects people that live in new york city, in apartment buildings that dont allow DTV

[mikeford]

nothing to see here...

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

shhhhh!

[Smithers]

apologies. i say things like that about every race/religion/etc. it's my character flaw.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

yeah it doesnt bother me at all so i dont really give a frig

[justinevans]

apologies. i say things like that about every race/religion/etc. it's my character flaw.

I honestly don't think anyone really cares, I deleted my post so it went unseen. I don't care, but you know I am not one of them. PC has taken over the world though.

[mikeford]

i dont give a shit but other people will.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

Senator John Kerry (D-MA) has entered the fray on the proposed deal that would make MLB Extra Innings exclusively available on DirecTV. In a statement issued by Kerry he said he "intends to seek answers from the FCC." A hearing in the Commerce, Science & Transportation Committee (http://commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Heari ng&Hearing_ID=1809) takes place tomorrow to address the issue.
Kerry added, "I'd like to know how this serves the public - a deal which will force fans to subscribe to DirecTV in order to tune in to their favorite players. A Red Sox fan ought to be able to watch their team without having to switch to DirecTV."


link (http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=672&Itemid=52)

[icameonherface]

link (http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=672&Itemid=52)

Do the Red Sox not have a home network?

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

are you retarded?

[icameonherface]

are you retarded?

no, but what's the point? I wasn't able to watch the Phillies/Yankees in FL.

Isn't the NFL only on DirectTV?

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

matt kaufman, stop hacking peoples accounts

in the past, MLB has made available a package known as MLB Extra Innings (thus the title of the thread, google is your friend)

this package has been available to all cable companies, as well as directv.

the package would allow you, for about 170 dollars a year, to catch all out of market games that werent blacked out due to fox restrictions on saturday.

so if you are a red sox fan living in new jersey, or wyoming, you could suscribe to this package and through your cable company watch all red sox games.

it is now about to be exclusive to directv.

follow?

[icameonherface]

matt kaufman, stop hacking peoples accounts

it seriously shouldn't matter though. Its a luxury.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

ok, go brag about limos or something and leave this conversation to the people that give a shit.

you didnt even know what this was about, yet you feel the need to leave your uneducated thoughts on the subject, do you realize how much of an ass that makes you look like?

[Smithers]

so if you are a red sox fan living in new jersey, or wyoming, you could suscribe to this package and through your cable company watch all red sox games.

:wave:

without EI i don't know what i'd do with my life during baseball season.

[icameonherface]

matt kaufman, stop hacking peoples accounts

in the past, MLB has made available a package known as MLB Extra Innings (thus the title of the thread, google is your friend)

this package has been available to all cable companies, as well as directv.

the package would allow you, for about 170 dollars a year, to catch all out of market games that werent blacked out due to fox restrictions on saturday.

so if you are a red sox fan living in new jersey, or wyoming, you could suscribe to this package and through your cable company watch all red sox games.

it is now about to be exclusive to directv.

follow?

I knew what the story is, just the way Kerry made it sound differently. However, the same thing is for NFL and no one is going after that.

ok, go brag about limos or something and leave this conversation to the people that give a shit.

you didnt even know what this was about, yet you feel the need to leave your uneducated thoughts on the subject, do you realize how much of an ass that makes you look like?

The availability is a luxury. You can still get mlb.tv on your computer.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

and for ANYBODY to compare this to the NFL deal, im sorry but i feel sorry that you were born without a fully functioning brain.

to follow your favorite out of market football team, you might need to go to a sports bar 13 times a year, and on a SUNDAY.

this would mean if i lived in a place that wouldnt allow me to get directv, such as an apartment building, to watch my team play on tv i would have to now find a bar that has DirecTV, and go there 140 times.

its a good business move, but its horrible to isolate fans like that, and its NOTHING like the NFL deal.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

I knew what the story is, just the way Kerry made it sound differently. However, the same thing is for NFL and no one is going after that.





false, there is a politician that is actively against this.

keep thinking you know what you are talking about, go whine about something Tate related thats what you are best at.

edit: just for clarity, and so this idiot looks even less intelligent.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The National Football League's ability to negotiate exclusive sports packages is under fire from the outgoing chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., twice said he would introduce legislation in the next session aimed at eliminating the league's freedom from antitrust laws.
Specter said the NFL should not use the exemption to negotiate exclusive programming packages such as DirectTV Inc.'s "Sunday Ticket," which allows viewers to watch teams outside their regional market.
"As I look at what the NFL is doing today with the NFL channel with the DirectTV ... a lot of people, including myself, would like to be able to have that ticket," Specter said.
But the 1961 law that gives the NFL this freedom should not apply to DirectTV because it is not "sponsored programming," said Stephen Ross, a law professor at Pennsylvania State University and chair of the school's sports law institute. He said the Pennsylvania senator could be using the threat of legislation to pressure the NFL to make changes voluntarily.
Access to out-of-market football games was one of many consumer fairness issues addressed during the hearing. Another hot topic was whether cable providers should be forced to share sports broadcasting rights with every service provider in an area.

aaaaaaand one more. (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117955283.html)

if you dont want to see my point or the hundreds of thousands of peoples points that are upset about this, then thats fine, but your reasoning is highly incorrect and its alienating fans more so than football does.

if you fail to recognize this, its just you being a stubborn assrag.

[Trainsaw]

and for ANYBODY to compare this to the NFL deal, im sorry but i feel sorry that you were born without a fully functioning brain.

to follow your favorite out of market football team, you might need to go to a sports bar 13 times a year, and on a SUNDAY.

this would mean if i lived in a place that wouldnt allow me to get directv, such as an apartment building, to watch my team play on tv i would have to now find a bar that has DirecTV, and go there 140 times.

its a good business move, but its horrible to isolate fans like that, and its NOTHING like the NFL deal.

Dish Network has a RSN package that carries a lot of market's Regional Sports networks for 6.99. Most of the time the game is gonna be there or on Fox, So don't think that EI is the only way to see a team play. Plus if you're a yankee's fan its pointless to subscribe to EI, they only had a handful of away games on there last year. Blackouts are a problem but a game is usually blacked out for you if you're in w/in 100 miles of the teams home playing area because a local provider has bought exclusive rights for that broadcast in that location. More often than not you can find that game on some RSN, maybe not yours specifically but one of the other area's from that pckg, if your team is playing away

On scale EI is not like the NFL package because there are more games played and on different days, not just 1-3 days a week. But ideally yes it is like the NFL package as if you're an out of market fan of a team say the Browns, they're not gonna be televised as much as a team like the Colts or Pats. So to see the Browns, and if you're an out of market fan, yes you would be forced to subscribe to direct tv. And not everyone can get into a bar so I'm not exactly sure why you bring up the point of "Oh you can just go to a bar to view it", what about people that are under 21? In the end its all doing the same thing. If you're out of a teams market, and that team's games are not normally show on major networks, then yes you are stuck w/ going to one provider to see your team. I don't see how recognizing that automatically means you don't have a fully functioning brain.

[Trainsaw]

This is a mistake on MLB's part however, if anything they should be trying to make themselves more accessible, Its no secret that football is now America's past time. Isolating themselves to one specific distributer with EI and MLB.tv is moronic. Now people would have to change their provider (many whom are probably locked into a contract) and be forced to install dishes or have higher programming rates to subscribe to a package that they at one point could get. Yes they are getting a huge upfront cost from Direct TV, so they're making money, but they're alienating fans from the game and still wondering why they are losing fans left and right

[icameonherface]

mlb is getting 30$ million more a year.

write to your cable providers. MLB would be absolutely stupid not to take it.

I know in Florida, you get local ny channels and the yes network, for far cheaper then mlb innings if you just want to watch your one team.

i don't know if that is the same way for dish.

[Trainsaw]

mlb is getting 30$ million more a year.

write to your cable providers. MLB would be absolutely stupid not to take it.

I know in Florida, you get local ny channels and the yes network, for far cheaper then mlb innings if you just want to watch your one team.

i don't know if that is the same way for dish.

that's basically what a RSN package does, you can watch different RSN's from around the nation, you won't see all the games but you'll have a good # to choose from.

they're getting that money upfront from Direct, that's not subscriber money, more than likely they're (MLB EI) going to lose subscribers in this whole ordeal, along with isolating viewers more so than before its not a good idea. They do get a majority of the amount from subscribers. Yeah they get more money but at the cost of fans and viewership. MLB is not the NFL, people will leave their tv distributer for NFL but far less will do it for the MLB. This could sink Direct TV as it is, they already barely break even each year, now having to pay a huge amount of money for an exclusive package, i dunno if they'll break even on that amount from new subscribers

[StuGrimson]

For 27 bucks a month I get about 3000 out of market games included in NHL centre ice, MLB extra innings, NFL SUnday Ticket, NBA League Pass, plus OHL hockey, college basketball and NASCAR. Its a hell of a deal.

[Trainsaw]

For 27 bucks a month I get about 3000 out of market games included in NHL centre ice, MLB extra innings, NFL SUnday Ticket, NBA League Pass, plus OHL hockey, college basketball and NASCAR. Its a hell of a deal.

Well either A) you work for direct or B) your cable provider is subscribing to direct then linking it to their customers

but let me try to get this strait, you don't subscribe to those packages, you just get games broadcast directly from those packages?

[StuGrimson]

Well its Canada, so Direct doesnt exist up here.

[Trainsaw]

Well its Canada, so Direct doesnt exist up here.

yeah i checked your location and you are in canada so the only way you could get direct is to have a US address. Depending how close you are to the border you can pick up a CONUS signal.

[Trainsaw]

Basically it comes down to this with the EI package, $ vs Reputation. They can take the money but that's going to isolate people and shut out some out of market fans. Or they can be provided by more outlets, allowing more people the opportunity to see these teams, and try to regain that reputation of "America's Pastime" but sacrificing the boatload of money. But I find it hard to believe that they think they get a bigger fanbase and popularity by lowering the scope they are broadcasted on.

[StuGrimson]

Rogers is the big cable deal up here and thats what I have, and everything is offered through their sports package. Who knows if this baseball thing affects me, I dont care so much as I pretty much only watch Jays games and they are on cable anyway. As long as I get to keep my hockey and football.

[Trainsaw]

Rogers is the big cable deal up here and thats what I have, and everything is offered through their sports package. Who knows if this baseball thing affects me, I dont care so much as I pretty much only watch Jays games and they are on cable anyway. As long as I get to keep my hockey and football.

So the games that you see, do they show a Direct Logo or the Sunday Ticket Logo, or are you just saying that you see some of the same games that those packages broadcast?

[StuGrimson]

I have Rogers digital cable. I have an add on package from Rogers that for an extra 27 bucks a month I get Sunday Ticket, Centre Ice, Extra Innings and others. Not sure about the logo but I pay my money to get all this stuff, its definately not part of the normal cable. Nothing to do with Direct TV.

[icameonherface]

that's basically what a RSN package does, you can watch different RSN's from around the nation, you won't see all the games but you'll have a good # to choose from.

they're getting that money upfront from Direct, that's not subscriber money, more than likely they're (MLB EI) going to lose subscribers in this whole ordeal, along with isolating viewers more so than before its not a good idea. They do get a majority of the amount from subscribers. Yeah they get more money but at the cost of fans and viewership. MLB is not the NFL, people will leave their tv distributer for NFL but far less will do it for the MLB. This could sink Direct TV as it is, they already barely break even each year, now having to pay a huge amount of money for an exclusive package, i dunno if they'll break even on that amount from new subscribers

it is wise for mlb, i didn't say direct tv.

[Trainsaw]

it is wise for mlb, i didn't say direct tv.

It depends on how many people decide to switch providers, as to if its wise for MLB, they're at risk of isolating fans which can cause loss of revenue in other areas. Its possible that this amount they're getting can make up for it but its also possible that it won't. The MLB isn't the MLB of yesteryear where it didn't need to promote nearly as much to thrive.

[Trainsaw]

I have Rogers digital cable. I have an add on package from Rogers that for an extra 27 bucks a month I get Sunday Ticket, Centre Ice, Extra Innings and others. Not sure about the logo but I pay my money to get all this stuff, its definately not part of the normal cable. Nothing to do with Direct TV.

Ah yeah i see its only in the US that its exclusively w/ Direct, International its got a number of companies.

[icameonherface]

It depends on how many people decide to switch providers, as to if its wise for MLB, they're at risk of isolating fans which can cause loss of revenue in other areas. Its possible that this amount they're getting can make up for it but its also possible that it won't. The MLB isn't the MLB of yesteryear where it didn't need to promote nearly as much to thrive.

in the revenue they may lose, they'll make it up with 30 million more they pocket with this deal per year.

[Trainsaw]

in the revenue they may lose, they'll make it up with 30 million more they pocket with this deal per year.

do you read half of the post and then decide to respond?

"Its possible that this amount they're getting can make up for it but its also possible that it won't."

[Trainsaw]

I don't think this is going to hurt the MLB that much financially right now but I think its just going to push it even further away from being "America's Pastime". Which could hurt it later on down the road.

[icameonherface]

do you read half of the post and then decide to respond?

"Its possible that this amount they're getting can make up for it but its also possible that it won't."

i had to skim im trying to read stocks too.

i don't think it'll hurt as much as some people may think. Thats all.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

i appreciate how you talk out of your ass and then dont respond to the points where you were proven wrong, you are a real vagina.

its a great business move for MLB as far as them getting the money from directv, but they are alienating a ton of people.

[icameonherface]

i appreciate how you talk out of your ass and then dont respond to the points where you were proven wrong, you are a real vagina.

its a great business move for MLB as far as them getting the money from directv, but they are alienating a ton of people.

so if thats the case the deal will fail and directtv will back out because they did not get many subscribers.

[StuGrimson]

So whats the percentage of people who actually have direct tv ? I always thought that was the main company in the States.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

its not. it has 15.4 million subscribers.

from wiki:
Recent data shows that 84.8% of all American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) homes have access to cable television

i dont know how many of those 84% actually subscribe though.

[StuGrimson]

Oh...thats not a hell of a lot.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

not to mention a lot of people believe the story of the directv deal was leaked to cause an outrage and to make the cable companies up their offer.

[StuGrimson]

Thats how cable companies work, its a shady business. Luckily up here we have basically a 2 company monopoly and they both offer the same sports packages and work together nicely. No to mention that both companies practically monopolize the telephone, internet, tv station and cell phone industry. Sometimes small monopolies work.

[Yankees' #1 Fan]

Commissioner Bud Selig was asked about the DirecTV deal on Wednesday, and according to Sports Business Daily, he declined comment about the substance of the deal, saying it is a matter for another day. He added, "I really haven't heard that much criticism."

he sits on a throne of lies, get a commisioner with his finger on the pulse PLEASE.

[mikeford]

thank god that useless piece of shit is retiring soon.

[icameonherface]

thank god that useless piece of shit is retiring soon.

yeah.