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open mind

07/16/03, 11:22 PM

Yeah introducing immigrants to america by throwing them into our already overcrowded prison system sounds like a great idea for the land of the free.

NOFXdesendents5

07/17/03, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by open mind
Yeah introducing immigrants to america by throwing them into our already overcrowded prison system sounds like a great idea for the land of the free.

I don't want a million people streaming into America daily without a reason.

The Nephilm

07/17/03, 06:11 AM

Originally posted by NOFXdesendents5
I don't want a million people streaming into America daily without a reason.

They work shitty jobs so that you don't have to. The next time you see an illiterate hispanic walking down the street with a dish towel in his hand, do something nice instead of calling him some racist name because he is keeping your precious capitolist society working.

WithStamin

07/17/03, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by The Nephilm
They work shitty jobs so that you don't have to. The next time you see an illiterate hispanic walking down the street with a dish towel in his hand, do something nice instead of calling him some racist name because he is keeping your precious capitolist society working. We already have more than enough people to do these jobs. We don't need any more.

BrandNewRock05

07/17/03, 12:42 PM

NOFXdesendents5

07/18/03, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by The Nephilm
They work shitty jobs so that you don't have to. The next time you see an illiterate hispanic walking down the street with a dish towel in his hand, do something nice instead of calling him some racist name because he is keeping your precious capitolist society working.

If you say anything against hispanics in my town you get knifed.

Also here, its not the recent immigrants that are the victims with shitty ass jobs. Its the ignorant white kids.

Mobilize

07/21/03, 10:12 AM

I'm not racist but we dont need anymore people in this contry we have more than enough and not enough jobs.

evil zach

07/21/03, 10:43 AM

None of us are natives, correct? None of you are in any position to to suggest closing North Americas boarders to immigrants. You are all descended from immigrants. If it wasn't for immigration, none of you would be here.

Charlito Cafe

07/21/03, 11:33 AM

Justin_stacy

07/21/03, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by evil zach
None of us are natives, correct? None of you are in any position to to suggest closing North Americas boarders to immigrants. You are all descended from immigrants. If it wasn't for immigration, none of you would be here.

actually there are 535 people (maybe 537) who are in actual postitions to close the USA borders, and there are another 240 million (plus) who are in the position to actually suggest that we close our borders.........being a US a citizen wins over where your parents parents were born........

and yes there are no actual natives of the americas.......so it is that culture or society that wins over the land that is in control of it and has the right to do with it, to a point, as they choose.........

yeat182

07/22/03, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by evil zach
None of us are natives, correct? None of you are in any position to to suggest closing North Americas boarders to immigrants. You are all descended from immigrants. If it wasn't for immigration, none of you would be here.

that doesn't mean that immigration policy should not be changed...times have changed, situations have changed and as a result policy must change with it.

WithStamin

07/22/03, 03:58 AM

Originally posted by evil zach
None of us are natives, correct? None of you are in any position to to suggest closing North Americas boarders to immigrants. You are all descended from immigrants. If it wasn't for immigration, none of you would be here. Heh, we don't want to make the same mistake the Native Americans made. Look where they are now :D

bossydacow

07/22/03, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by WithStamin
Heh, we don't want to make the same mistake the Native Americans made.

they didn't make a mistake.

evil zach

07/22/03, 06:42 AM

It looks to me like thay made a pretty big mistake.

Charlito Cafe

07/22/03, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by WithStamin
Heh, we don't want to make the same mistake the Native Americans made. Look where they are now :D

They didn't have a choice. They didn't have the manpower to enforce a massive border guarding policy, and quite frankly, I think it'd be a waste of time for us, because immigration really isn't a problem. Closing our borders would hurt us culturally and economically, not to mention send the message that America is inhabited by a bunch of bigoted assholes(George the Second has done a pretty good job of that already.)

yeat182

07/22/03, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by Charlito Cafe
They didn't have a choice. They didn't have the manpower to enforce a massive border guarding policy, and quite frankly, I think it'd be a waste of time for us, because immigration really isn't a problem. Closing our borders would hurt us culturally and economically, not to mention send the message that America is inhabited by a bunch of bigoted assholes(George the Second has done a pretty good job of that already.)

they aren't talking about closing the borders, only deny access to individuals who are looking for asylum...the immigration process would still continue. and illegal immigration is absolutely a problem for us.

evil zach

07/22/03, 10:33 AM

What agreat idea. Send the assylumn seekers back to the place they are seeking assylumn from.

yeat182

07/22/03, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by evil zach
What agreat idea. Send the assylumn seekers back to the place they are seeking assylumn from.

they could apply for citizenship just like everyone else, or is there some sort of problem with following the rules?

Charlito Cafe

07/22/03, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by yeat182
they could apply for citizenship just like everyone else, or is there some sort of problem with following the rules?

Applying for citezenship causes them to stay in the place where they are in danger even longer, and may involve government officials of the offending government. Asylum may be their only way out.

yeat182

07/23/03, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by Charlito Cafe
Applying for citezenship causes them to stay in the place where they are in danger even longer, and may involve government officials of the offending government. Asylum may be their only way out.

yes, but there are many people who claim they need asylum when in fact they don't , they are abusing the system and ruining it for everyone else...

Charlito Cafe

07/23/03, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by yeat182
yes, but there are many people who claim they need asylum when in fact they don't , they are abusing the system and ruining it for everyone else...

So let everyone else who needs asylum in. So what if a few people abuse it, it's not that easy. It's better to have a few people abuse the system and several benefit from it than to shut it down because of the actions of a small group.

yeat182

07/23/03, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Charlito Cafe
So what if a few people abuse it, it's not that easy. .

yeah, so what if al-qaeda or someother terrorist group wants to abuse it...no big deal.

Charlito Cafe

07/24/03, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by yeat182
yeah, so what if al-qaeda or someother terrorist group wants to abuse it...no big deal.

Actually, the preffered method of the Sept. 11 terrorists was to apply for citizenship and live in the U.S. I don't think any of them were seeking asylum.

yeat182

07/25/03, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by Charlito Cafe
Actually, the preffered method of the Sept. 11 terrorists was to apply for citizenship and live in the U.S. I don't think any of them were seeking asylum.

actually their prefered method was to gain access to the US through Canada...

open mind

07/26/03, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
way to have an open mind, open mind
i knew someone would throw that at me sooner or later so yeah i picked a dumb name.
funny though doesn't have much to do with the topic.

open mind

07/26/03, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by WithStamin
Heh, we don't want to make the same mistake the Native Americans made. Look where they are now :D
As a native alaskan i gotta say that's gotta be the most ignorant statement i've come across yet.
today's immigrants are a world apart from the europeans that came over hundreds of years ago.todays immigrants are mostly looking for jobs.yesterdays immigrants came for land and were taking it by any means necessary (including chemical warfare in the form of knowingly passing out pox infected blankets to the natives).i could go on but my point is immigrants of yesterday were pretty much going about the buisness of "cleansing" the land of the "savages" who were there first.
todays immigrants while being a pain in the ass have yet to declare war on the american populace so it's not even close to being the same type of situation.