Who do you want to run in 2012?

[The Indigo]

Senator Sherrod Brown (D - Ohio) - Former teacher, and since I'll be going into teaching in 2012, I'd want someone in the White House who understands education. He's a huge proponent of LGBT rights and favors a singe-payer health care system.

Senator Bernie Sanders (I - Vermont) - Call me a bandwagon jumper, but I'd heard about Bernie Sanders before his 9 hour filibuster and just never felt the inspiration to actually check him out. Glad I finally did though. Not only is he pro-choice, pro-LGBT, fiscally responsible, and favors single payer health care, but he also focuses a lot of issues not many politician dedicate much time to, like breaking up the media conglomerates. Plus, he's a socialist. Legit.

Motherfucking Representative Jan Schakowsky (D - Illinois) - I don't think any other congressperson has such an outstanding record of standing their ground and speaking up for the little guy. Strong stances on environmental issues, single-payer health care, pro-choice, responsible foreign policy, and understands economics from her experience was a superhuman fund raising machine.

Representative Linda Sanchez (D - California) - Cause she talk a whole lotta shit and walk around like she President Carter's bitch.

Representative John Olver (D - Massachusetts) - Another former educator. He's in favor of single-payer health care, is unforgivably pro-choice, has a good handle on immigration reform, and favors conservative foreign policy decisions rather than trying to be the world's bully, but also understands that major human rights violations around the world shouldn't just be ignored or "strongly condemned."

[sweezy]

http://encefalus.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/roadrunner.gif

[GuitarR0cker1]

Barack Obama

/thread

Democratic primary challengers have no to little chance of actually winning the nomination and would severely damage Obama. In otherwords progressives need to swallow their pride and realize that Obama is the best we're going to get.

[The Indigo]

Barack Obama

/thread

Democratic primary challengers have no to little chance of actually winning the nomination and would severely damage Obama. In otherwords progressives need to swallow their pride and realize that Obama is the best we're going to get.
Obama is not getting my vote in 2012.

Edit: Also, if any mod reads this, can we get Sweezy banned from the politics forum?

[J.C.]

Sarah Palin.

[sweezy]

Obama is not getting my vote in 2012.

Edit: Also, if any mod reads this, can we get Sweezy banned from the politics forum?

how do you know my post is not a reference to ballot-spoiling through voting for popular cartoon characters and thus representative of my political views on the futility of the democratic system

[sweezy]

Sarah Palin.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OZEW1KPpFOI/SMpv7lVLITI/AAAAAAAAA1M/1AJa7UJCoIU/s400/palin+cartoon+moose.jpg

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Donald Trump

[caveBEAR]

Obama is not getting my vote in 2012.

Edit: Also, if any mod reads this, can we get Sweezy banned from the politics forum?

Then you're pretty much voting for whoever the Republicans put forward. Awesome.

[Smash Adams]

Alvin Greene/Basil Mercaux

[Juan Jose]

Ron Paul? anyone?... anyone?

or David Stockman but he's never getting back into politics

[the seventeenth]

The Rent is Too Damn High representitive...
If he ran... and I could vote... or if I cared about politics.

[Machu505]

All those folks and no Feingold? Amateur. Of those, though, Sherrod Brown would be best.

[sweezy]

The Rent is Too Damn High representitive...
If he ran... and I could vote... or if I cared about politics.

YES

[troubledbyinsects]

me

[troubledbyinsects]

Then you're pretty much voting for whoever the Republicans put forward. Awesome.
or ralph nader

lol

[joeag1985]

The Terminator.

[JordanBuell]

Senator Bernie Sanders

[the seventeenth]

YES
:-d

[wall e]

Bob Loblaw

[Kyle Garchar]

Obama is not getting my vote in 2012.

Edit: Also, if any mod reads this, can we get Sweezy banned from the politics forum?Oh, you're going to vote for Sarah Palin? Or give your vote to Nader or someone like that?

[anamericangod]

Obama vs. Palin

[Jason Tate]

None of the above.

[deFobbed14yrs]

I live in New York, so whoever is on the Dem ticket, which will be Obama.

[JuneJuly]

All those folks and no Feingold? Amateur. Of those, though, Sherrod Brown would be best.

let's be friends.

[The Indigo]

Then you're pretty much voting for whoever the Republicans put forward. Awesome.

Oh, you're going to vote for Sarah Palin? Or give your vote to Nader or someone like that?
What? No. Sorry, I should've been more specific. Obama isn't getting my vote for Democratic nominee. I hope a democrat has the balls to challenge him for the nomination.

Edit: Also, Feingold lost his senate seat, so although I think it'd be neat if he challenged Obama, it'd be even more hopeless than anyone else doing it.

[Lueda Alia]

What? No. Sorry, I should've been more specific. Obama isn't getting my vote for Democratic nominee. I hope a democrat has the balls to challenge him for the nomination.
While I don't disagree that competition would be nice, I do believe that it would hurt the Democratic party in the long run. It would be hard to get voters behind Obama (if he ends up being the nominee, which he most likely would) because Republicans would tear him apart by claiming that even his own party didn't back him as President 100%. It's just not worth it, in my opinion. Plus, I really think that Obama would most likely do a lot more in his second term because he wouldn't have to worry about getting re-elected. I know that sounds messed up, but that's just the nature of politics.

[studskalny]

Bob Loblaw

First great option in this thread.

[flask]

I'll be voting for not sarah palin.

[serenab1221]

What? No. Sorry, I should've been more specific. Obama isn't getting my vote for Democratic nominee. I hope a democrat has the balls to challenge him for the nomination.

Edit: Also, Feingold lost his senate seat, so although I think it'd be neat if he challenged Obama, it'd be even more hopeless than anyone else doing it.

I think their point was that no other Democrat stands a chance at this point. I could be wrong.

[serenab1221]

While I don't disagree that competition would be nice, I do believe that it would hurt the Democratic party in the long run. It would be hard to get voters behind Obama (if he ends up being the nominee, which he most likely would) because Republicans would tear him apart by claiming that even his own party didn't back him as President 100%. It's just not worth it, in my opinion. Plus, I really think that Obama would most likely do a lot more in his second term because he wouldn't have to worry about getting re-elected. I know that sounds messed up, but that's just the nature of politics.

I agree with this completely.

[loveisdead]

Move to America, Eda.

[loveisdead]

Weiner would be kinda cool. No but seriously a democratic primary would be awful.

[caveBEAR]

President Weiner...I like it, and not just because of 'weiner'.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Boehner and Weiner... who says politics isn't male driven.

[Colinmac36]

anyone who makes a promise and fucking keeps it? how bout that.

[Colinmac36]

Donald Trump
not bad, at least he could pay off our debts! HA

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

not bad, at least he could pay off our debts! HA

I only mentioned him since he's stated in the press his interest in running and the fact that he doesn't currently hold office. It would be an interesting campaign to watch.

[The Indigo]

While I don't disagree that competition would be nice, I do believe that it would hurt the Democratic party in the long run. It would be hard to get voters behind Obama (if he ends up being the nominee, which he most likely would) because Republicans would tear him apart by claiming that even his own party didn't back him as President 100%. It's just not worth it, in my opinion. Plus, I really think that Obama would most likely do a lot more in his second term because he wouldn't have to worry about getting re-elected. I know that sounds messed up, but that's just the nature of politics.
He's already shown that with the Republicans gaining more power in Congress, he's become more willing than ever to compromise his stances. I already thought he was a little too comfortable compromising before the midterm elections.

[majinsharingan]

As long as a good candidate wins, Palin, Trump, Morgan Freeman, Robin Williams, and Kathy Griffin.

I only mentioned him since he's stated in the press his interest in running and the fact that he doesn't currently hold office. It would be an interesting campaign to watch.

Trump vs. Palin.
Nothing short of God himself could save us.

[caveBEAR]

anyone who makes a promise and fucking keeps it? how bout that.

:yawn:

Good luck with that.

[Simulcast]

Augustus Caesar, thank you.

[ParkwayTom]

I don't vote, but if I did I'd vote Republican.

[Colinmac36]

I only mentioned him since he's stated in the press his interest in running and the fact that he doesn't currently hold office. It would be an interesting campaign to watch.
it really would be hey, in this day in age money equals power and hes already proven he can invest money and make a profit off of it....

[Colinmac36]

:yawn:

Good luck with that.
i know its a real stretch isnt it?

[Colinmac36]

I don't vote, but if I did I'd vote Republican.
why would you ever admit you dont vote? if youre an American and dont vote you should be ashamed, especially since there is our military personnel fighting for our freedom and democracy everyday.....

[saysmydoctor]

Al Sharpton. Cause he's always entertaining.

[J.C.]

I don't vote, but if I did I'd vote Republican.

My favorite kind of Republican.

[saysmydoctor]

My favorite kind of Republican.
hahahahahahaha

[peder458]

Boehner and Weiner... who says politics isn't male driven.

Bravo.

[saysmydoctor]

No more President Weiner talk until after he is Hizzoner Weiner.

[loveisdead]

My favorite kind of Republican.

I love you.

[perceptrons]

Ron Paul? anyone?... anyone?

or David Stockman but he's never getting back into politics
Oh man, having to deal with his followers next election will edge me to suicide.

My favorite kind of Republican.
Perfecto.

[germypill]

I always just get high and write somebody in.

[eriatarka24]

Donald Trump

i know right??



haha

[ParkwayTom]

why would you ever admit you dont vote? if youre an American and dont vote you should be ashamed, especially since there is our military personnel fighting for our freedom and democracy everyday.....

Why are people so berated for exercising their right to not vote? If everybody were forced to vote, it wouldn't be voting...

[Theseventhson]

I'm pretty sure he's running in 2012 but

http://www.mkrob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/usain-boltid.jpg

[heyiamcody]

Why are people so berated for exercising their right to not vote? If everybody were forced to vote, it wouldn't be voting...
This is such a stupid point to make. Is this really where you're going to make a stand? The right NOT to vote? You're right though, and by the sounds of it, maybe you shouldn't vote.

[heyiamcody]

Obama is not getting my vote in 2012.

Edit: Also, if any mod reads this, can we get Sweezy banned from the politics forum?
While you may not be happy with Obama, it's pretty far fetched to believe that any Democrat is going to win the nomination. Unless there is a major revolt against Obama within his own party, the likeliest scenario is that he'll win the nomination with little to no effort. Even with the present uproar within the party over the current tax proposal, there's still a very strong consensus that the more outspoken Democrats are disagreeing but still supporting him as President. In almost all cases, they've made that distinction pretty clear.

On the republican side, it will be interesting to see who puts their hat in the ring. Obviously, Palin will. Looks likely that Huckabee will as well as Romney. On professional merit alone, I don't think any of those are even contenders. That being said, the nation is full of crazy crazy people who seem to think Palin is a real contendor. I certainly hope that isn't the case.

[Scrandon]

This is such a stupid point to make. Is this really where you're going to make a stand? The right NOT to vote? You're right though, and by the sounds of it, maybe you shouldn't vote.
This is such a stupid post to make. Is this really what you feel compelled to post about? Posting about the right NOT to vote? You're right though, and by the sounds of it, maybe you shouldn't post.

Yep. Makes no sense the second time around either.

[heyiamcody]

This is such a stupid post to make. Is this really what you feel compelled to post about? Posting about the right NOT to vote? You're right though, and by the sounds of it, maybe you shouldn't post.

Yep. Makes no sense the second time around either.
zing

[Carolina.Alex]

So was he seriously banned for the long john thread?

EDIT: Wrong thread!

[Juan Jose]

Oh man, having to deal with his followers next election will edge me to suicide.

You mean the conspiracy theorists that always bitch about the establishment sabotaging him in the primaries? or just his followers in general

[perceptrons]

You mean the conspiracy theorists that always bitch about the establishment sabotaging him in the primaries? or just his followers in general
Is there a difference? I mean, if he has rational, level-headed followers, they must be an endangered species.

[GuitarR0cker1]

Obama is not getting my vote in 2012.

Once the Republicans are done nominating one of their fuckfaces, you'll come around. ;-)

[Ollie McKraut]

why would you ever admit you dont vote? if youre an American and dont vote you should be ashamed, especially since there is our military personnel fighting for our freedom and democracy everyday.....

Democracy doesn't work, see: George W. Bush, Barack H. Obama

A choice between the lesser of two evils is hardly a choice. Abstinence is the only way to be 100% certain you don't...support a corrupt president.

War, on the other hand.....

and Sherrod Brown is a twit. Just my personal opinion as someone who's lived in Ohio for a long time. No evidence or argument to back that up, i'm a dumbass i know. see: above

[J.C.]

Thanks for saving me the trouble of calling you a dumbass, Ollie.

[saysmydoctor]

Democracy doesn't work, see: George W. Bush, Barack H. Obama

A choice between the lesser of two evils is hardly a choice. Abstinence is the only way to be 100% certain you don't...support a corrupt president.

War, on the other hand.....

and Sherrod Brown is a twit. Just my personal opinion as someone who's lived in Ohio for a long time. No evidence or argument to back that up, i'm a dumbass i know. see: above
What?

[caveBEAR]

What?

Democracy doesn't work, that's what.

[IceAge/HeatWave]

Democracy doesn't work, see: George W. Bush, Barack H. Obama

A choice between the lesser of two evils is hardly a choice. Abstinence is the only way to be 100% certain you don't...support a corrupt president.

War, on the other hand.....

and Sherrod Brown is a twit. Just my personal opinion as someone who's lived in Ohio for a long time. No evidence or argument to back that up, i'm a dumbass i know. see: above

you make me (more) embarrassed to live in ohio.

[The Indigo]

Democracy doesn't work, see: George W. Bush, Barack H. Obama

A choice between the lesser of two evils is hardly a choice. Abstinence is the only way to be 100% certain you don't...support a corrupt president.

War, on the other hand.....

and Sherrod Brown is a twit. Just my personal opinion as someone who's lived in Ohio for a long time. No evidence or argument to back that up, i'm a dumbass i know. see: above
Oh.

[Lueda Alia]

Move to America, Eda.
You must really hate me to make such a suggestion.

[loveisdead]

You must really hate me to make such a suggestion.

Nothing but love.

[ParkwayTom]

This is such a stupid point to make. Is this really where you're going to make a stand? The right NOT to vote? You're right though, and by the sounds of it, maybe you shouldn't vote.

Yea, it was so stupid that you couldn't say anything to refute it. I guess you decided to take the road less travelled on the internet and say something arrogant and pointless rather than actually contributing. Explain to me why me (or anyone) choosing not to vote is such a big deal, otherwise get off your high horse.

[trevorshmevor]

While I don't disagree that competition would be nice, I do believe that it would hurt the Democratic party in the long run. It would be hard to get voters behind Obama (if he ends up being the nominee, which he most likely would) because Republicans would tear him apart by claiming that even his own party didn't back him as President 100%. It's just not worth it, in my opinion. Plus, I really think that Obama would most likely do a lot more in his second term because he wouldn't have to worry about getting re-elected. I know that sounds messed up, but that's just the nature of politics.

I couldn't agree more with everything said here.

[Juan Jose]

Is there a difference? I mean, if he has rational, level-headed followers, they must be an endangered species.

well I'm not going to defend the people you've met, but everyone I know who likes him are just libertarians who think Republicans and Democrats are ignoring the problem of huge deficit spending and how it could affect us later. Idk I feel like he's one of the few people that's offering real solutions to reducing the size of government even if it's a bit draconian, but we do have an almost $14 trillion dollar debt so it needs to be addressed. If we didn't have this problem then Ron Paul would be a nobody.

[Jason Tate]

Once the Republicans are done nominating one of their fuckfaces, you'll come around. ;-)
Hhah, I think that's more true than people realize.

[heyiamcody]

Yea, it was so stupid that you couldn't say anything to refute it. I guess you decided to take the road less travelled on the internet and say something arrogant and pointless rather than actually contributing. Explain to me why me (or anyone) choosing not to vote is such a big deal, otherwise get off your high horse.
I'm not trying to refute the point that you can choose to not vote if you'd like to. You're absolutely correct that you have the right to not contribute to the voting process. I just don't understand why someone would intentionally choose not to vote, simply because you can. And who is making such a big deal about you not voting? Who's oppressing your opinion so much that it makes you so upset?

But while we're on the subject, are you making some sort of point by not voting? Are you choosing not to vote because you're happy with the way things are? By not voting, your opinion means nothing in the decision making process. By not voting, you're essentially empowering those that you may disagree with. You have to see the logic in that. For each member of the non-voting minority, you give those who vote the power to pass policy that you're unhappy about and that could potentially be harmful to our society.

But you are right my angry friend. You have the power to exercise your right not to vote. You have the right to do a lot of foolish things in America. But should you? Perhaps that's a better question.

[ParkwayTom]

I'm not trying to refute the point that you can choose to not vote if you'd like to. You're absolutely correct that you have the right to not contribute to the voting process. I just don't understand why someone would intentionally choose not to vote, simply because you can. And who is making such a big deal about you not voting? Who's oppressing your opinion so much that it makes you so upset?

But while we're on the subject, are you making some sort of point by not voting? Are you choosing not to vote because you're happy with the way things are? By not voting, your opinion means nothing in the decision making process. By not voting, you're essentially empowering those that you may disagree with. You have to see the logic in that. For each member of the non-voting minority, you give those who vote the power to pass policy that you're unhappy about and that could potentially be harmful to our society.

But you are right my angry friend. You have the power to exercise your right not to vote. You have the right to do a lot of foolish things in America. But should you? Perhaps that's a better question.

On the one hand, yes, you're right. By not choosing someone then I am empowering the people that may be elected. I didn't mean at all to sound like I was somehow above the voting process, I just think that nine times out of ten, you're simply choosing between the lesser of two evils. Since I'm 21, its not like there have been too many elections for me to pass up, but I can't say that I have supported any presidential/senatorial/gubanatorial candidate that I've seen ever.

I hate to sound like the "I don't trust politicians" guy, but there's some truth to that. Why vote for someone just because you don't support the person they're running against? Thats the problem I have with voting: politicians tend to be self serving and no where near proactive enough in helping te country; thats why I choose not to vote for either one. Why settle?

[heyiamcody]

On the one hand, yes, you're right. By not choosing someone then I am empowering the people that may be elected. I didn't mean at all to sound like I was somehow above the voting process, I just think that nine times out of ten, you're simply choosing between the lesser of two evils. Since I'm 21, its not like there have been too many elections for me to pass up, but I can't say that I have supported any presidential/senatorial/gubanatorial candidate that I've seen ever.

I hate to sound like the "I don't trust politicians" guy, but there's some truth to that. Why vote for someone just because you don't support the person they're running against? Thats the problem I have with voting: politicians tend to be self serving and no where near proactive enough in helping te country; thats why I choose not to vote for either one. Why settle?
I understand not trusting politicians. I don't think there are very many people still thinking that a politician is going to be our savior. But there's a whole lot more to voting than who the President is. There are several proposals each election that decide specific policies and without the input of the public (and their votes), these things which can really help serve the needs of the people will continue to go unsupported and lose. It's only by people voting that equal rights and other important legislation will come about.

And in terms of the "lesser of two evils", I completely agree with you. Sometimes those are the only options left. I understand this is just one example, but consider for a second the choices in the last election. You had Obama and McCain. If you take just the war for example and examine their positions, you'll find McCain saying that he envisioned the military being in Afghanistan for 100 years or more if needed while Obama saying he wants to systematically start bringing troops home. While neither candidate is perfect, there's a HUGE difference in policy there and we can see the difference already with what Obama has been planning and already started in terms of the war. Each candidate comes with specifics that they will push for and try to make reality. While neither will be perfect, it's important to research the principles each stands for and vote for the person that will align with your beliefs the most. As always though, you have the right not to vote. I personally just find it to be a little foolish when there are so many things worth voting for. It's not so black and white as some people make it.

[ParkwayTom]

I understand not trusting politicians. I don't think there are very many people still thinking that a politician is going to be our savior. But there's a whole lot more to voting than who the President is. There are several proposals each election that decide specific policies and without the input of the public (and their votes), these things which can really help serve the needs of the people will continue to go unsupported and lose. It's only by people voting that equal rights and other important legislation will come about.

And in terms of the "lesser of two evils", I completely agree with you. Sometimes those are the only options left. I understand this is just one example, but consider for a second the choices in the last election. You had Obama and McCain. If you take just the war for example and examine their positions, you'll find McCain saying that he envisioned the military being in Afghanistan for 100 years or more if needed while Obama saying he wants to systematically start bringing troops home. While neither candidate is perfect, there's a HUGE difference in policy there and we can see the difference already with what Obama has been planning and already started in terms of the war. Each candidate comes with specifics that they will push for and try to make reality. While neither will be perfect, it's important to research the principles each stands for and vote for the person that will align with your beliefs the most. As always though, you have the right not to vote. I personally just find it to be a little foolish when there are so many things worth voting for. It's not so black and white as some people make it.

On some real shit, you're right. I legitimately stand corrected haha. I think I'll try gaining a little more insight on the candidates in the future before I just write them off.

[apoemtothedead]

I'm pretty sure he's running in 2012 but

http://www.mkrob.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/usain-boltid.jpg
MY MEN'S 100M CHAMPION IS BLACK

[apoemtothedead]

I believe that Mitt Romney is the only Republican with a legit chance at beating Obama, so not him.

[heyiamcody]

On some real shit, you're right. I legitimately stand corrected haha. I think I'll try gaining a little more insight on the candidates in the future before I just write them off.
Awesome. To be honest, it's only been within the last couple of years that I've started to involve myself more in researching the issues. I think I felt similar to you for a long time and on some levels, still do. Researching the issues doesn't always (almost never) take away the frustration but it's made me more eager to stay involved. Anyway...no hard feelings I hope.

[ParkwayTom]

Awesome. To be honest, it's only been within the last couple of years that I've started to involve myself more in researching the issues. I think I felt similar to you for a long time and on some levels, still do. Researching the issues doesn't always (almost never) take away the frustration but it's made me more eager to stay involved. Anyway...no hard feelings I hope.

None at all homie. I'm sure we'll bump into each other again in the jungle of AP haha.

[saysmydoctor]

Why do people think Mitt Romney will be the Republican candidate? He so will not be.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Why do people think Mitt Romney will be the Republican candidate? He so will not be.

Is it because he's Mormon?

[saysmydoctor]

Is it because he's Mormon?
People are saying he will be simply based on the early polling, even though these are the same people who will weeks later say that these polls namely just show who has the most name recognition.

And it's not because he's mormon, though that doesn't help. It's because he makes McCain look like the maverick he says he is.

[GuitarR0cker1]

this guy:
0iqktCdX0hs

[$eth]

Stephen Colbert

[Broken Parachute]

No more President Weiner talk until after he is Hizzoner Weiner.http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8624/umadm.png

[Jake Denning]

Jason Tate for Prez 2012

[karic97]

ron paul/ marko ruibo

[xxemo_kittyxx]

Ke$ha. Out of the music industry.

[caveBEAR]

ron paul/ marko ruibo

Ugh.

As well, it's 'Marco Rubio', and you're gonna want to spell that right if Joe Miller has anything to say about it.

[saysmydoctor]

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8624/umadm.png
Hahahaha @ this existing.

I'd personally prefer if Weiner never ran for a higher office beyond NYC mayor. I think he would make a great mayor

[caveBEAR]

Hahahaha @ this existing.

I'd personally prefer if Weiner never ran for a higher office beyond NYC mayor. I think he would make a great mayor

You guys need to stop hogging him...
:sadangel:

[saysmydoctor]

Uh.

Dude. It's New York. They don't teach sharing here.

[caveBEAR]

:lol:

Very true.

[MitchellHaaland]

I dont mean to offend anyone but I dont think Sarah Palin is going to get elected in 2012. By electing our first black president, i think we ahve reached our height of 'radicalism' for our time period. Having out first black president than our first woman president? doesnt seem realistic. John Thune from South Dakota is considering running, and i think he would have a pretty decent shot.

[saysmydoctor]

None of us think that Palin's being a woman is a detriment to her chances.

It's more her being fucking stupid.

[The Indigo]

Her being fucking stupid is the best thing she has going for her. She's got the fucking stupid vote locked down.

[perceptrons]

There's only so many fucking stupid to go around, and a lot of them hate her.

[GeeBee]

None of us think that Palin's being a woman is a detriment to her chances.

It's more her being fucking stupid.
I actually DO think that her being a woman is a detriment. She's ruined female politicians for a whole lot of people. She has only herself to blame. Same goes for Whitman, O'Donnell, and any other woman who feeds into stereotypes. It's a shame.

EDIT: Not saying I'm one of those people, but that I know of some.

[Broken Parachute]

Hahahaha @ this existing.

I'd personally prefer if Weiner never ran for a higher office beyond NYC mayor. I think he would make a great mayorI made it myself after seeing the video, haha. I felt it had to be done.

[apoemtothedead]

I dont mean to offend anyone but I dont think Sarah Palin is going to get elected in 2012. By electing our first black president, i think we ahve reached our height of 'radicalism' for our time period. Having out first black president than our first woman president? doesnt seem realistic. John Thune from South Dakota is considering running, and i think he would have a pretty decent shot.
Well I'm extremely offended. You sexist bigot.

[karic97]

None of us think that Palin's being a woman is a detriment to her chances.

It's more her being fucking stupid.
amen brother amen

[MitchellHaaland]

Well I'm extremely offended. You sexist bigot.
im not saying she is a bad candidate, i just dont think America is that radical. I would vote for her if she was running!

[caveBEAR]

im not saying she is a bad candidate, i just dont think America is that radical. I would vote for her if she was running!

Oh, so you're not offensive, you're just retarded. Got it.

[apoemtothedead]

im not saying she is a bad candidate, i just dont think America is that radical. I would vote for her if she was running!
I am saying she is a bad candidate. I don't think America is radical, although electing a black or female President may seem that way to a South Dakotan.

[caveBEAR]

I am saying she is a bad candidate. I don't think America is radical, although electing a black or female President may seem that way to a South Dakotan.

Ha ha, I was going to point out that electing a black man or a woman isn't 'radical', but his willingness to vote for Palin killed that train of thought.

[MitchellHaaland]

I am saying she is a bad candidate. I don't think America is radical, although electing a black or female President may seem that way to a South Dakotan.
radical was a bad word to use. its 'out of the norm'. all of our presidents have been white males. I think taking one giant step electing an african american president will make america not want to take such a leap in the near future. and what does being a south dakotan have to with that?

[MitchellHaaland]

Oh, so you're not offensive, you're just retarded. Got it.
how is that retarded at all?

[loveisdead]

how is that retarded at all?

Because you would vote for Sarah Palin.

[reckoner]

im not saying she is a bad candidate, i just dont think America is that radical. I would vote for her if she was running!

I want a serious answer to this question: Why would you vote for her? Why do you think she's even close to qualified to lead this country? Like seriously what the fuck. How do you see not how incredibly fucking stupid she is?

[Broken Parachute]

Because you would vote for Sarah Palin.Grant him a reprieve. He's from South Dakota. Life is hard enough as it is.

[caveBEAR]

how is that retarded at all?

Mostly the part where you think Palin's competent enough to lead a P.T.A. meeting, let alone the country.

[MitchellHaaland]

maybe the wrong choice of words saying i would vote for her... cause i really wouldnt..... i think i just like the idea of having diversity ya know? like having a black president is awesome, but hes not doing very well, but his intentions are right. im just saying i would want a women president. she is in no way qwuallified to run any country.

[Broken Parachute]

maybe the wrong choice of words saying i would vote for her... cause i really wouldnt..... i think i just like the idea of having diversity ya know? like having a black president is awesome, but hes not doing very well, but his intentions are right. im just saying i would want a women president. she is in no way qwuallified to run any country.Let's see...where should I begin...

[caveBEAR]

qwuallified

Oh, sweet baby Jesus, can we somehow work this spelling into the next General Thread title?

[reckoner]

maybe the wrong choice of words saying i would vote for her... cause i really wouldnt..... i think i just like the idea of having diversity ya know? like having a black president is awesome, but hes not doing very well, but his intentions are right. im just saying i would want a women president. she is in no way qwuallified to run any country.

Please don't vote.

[Broken Parachute]

Palin isn't koala-fied.

http://www.australiasouvenir.com/product_images/uploaded_images/koala2.jpg

[caveBEAR]

:lolatpost:

[MitchellHaaland]

Grant him a reprieve. He's from South Dakota. Life is hard enough as it is.
how is living in south dakota 'hard enough as it is'?

[Broken Parachute]

how is living in south dakota 'hard enough as it is'?You know, cause...your state sucks and all?

[loveisdead]

General Politics Thread: Overqwallified

[caveBEAR]

You know, cause...your state sucks and all?

You talkin' shit on lower Dakota, motherfucker?

[caveBEAR]

General Politics Thread: Overqwallified

I like it. Needs a little work, but we'll run it through research & development and see what they can cook up.

[loveisdead]

I like it. Needs a little work, but we'll run it through the research & development and see what they can cook up.

Yeah we may be able to manage something out of it.

[loveisdead]

You talkin' shit on lower Dakota, motherfucker?

Nick Thomas is pissed.

[caveBEAR]

Nick Thomas is pissed.

:shrug:
Don't know who that is.

I'd be pissed too if I had two first names, though.

[Broken Parachute]

You talkin' shit on lower Dakota, motherfucker?Only good thing about that state is the movie Fargo. Oh wait, that's North Dakota. Damn. Never mind.

[MitchellHaaland]

You know, cause...your state sucks and all?
why does our state suck?

[Broken Parachute]

why does our state suck?How about this...you sell me on why your state doesn't suck.

[caveBEAR]

How about this...you sell me on why your state doesn't suck.

It's the closest you can get to being Canadian without 'about' and 'flute' being rhyming words.

[MitchellHaaland]

Only good thing about that state is the movie Fargo. Oh wait, that's North Dakota. Damn. Never mind.
thank you for being an ignorant new yorker.

[Broken Parachute]

thank you for being an ignorant new yorker.LOL your sarcasm meter needs new batteries.

[caveBEAR]

thank you for being an ignorant new yorker.

You've yet to state why your state doesn't suck.

[MitchellHaaland]

How about this...you sell me on why your state doesn't suck.
were just like any other state. we have agriculture, national monuments, and plenty of other great things. we dont have a bigger population than california or new york but we still have enough people. tons of people live here and no one ever respects us or even acnowledges us. we have mount rushmore, crazy horse, and plenty of others. now, wh does our state suck?

[caveBEAR]

were just like any other state. we have agriculture, national monuments, and plenty of other great things. we dont have a bigger population than california or new york but we still have enough people. tons of people live here and no one ever respects us or even acnowledges us. we have mount rushmore, crazy horse, and plenty of others. now, wh does our state suck?

When one of the selling points of your state is 'we have agriculture', you've just admitted your state sucks.

[loveisdead]

:shrug:
Don't know who that is.

I'd be pissed too if I had two first names, though.

Singer of the Spill Canvas.

[MitchellHaaland]

When one of the selling points of your state is 'we have agriculture', you've just admitted your state sucks.
our state sucks beccause we grow food for people? really? thats the worst logic ive ever heard.

[Broken Parachute]

were just like any other state. we have agriculture, national monuments, and plenty of other great things. we dont have a bigger population than california or new york but we still have enough people. tons of people live here and no one ever respects us or even acnowledges us. we have mount rushmore, crazy horse, and plenty of others. now, wh does our state suck?Deadwood is cool, I guess. 'We have agriculture' isn't exactly a selling point.

[loveisdead]

What's the average temperature of south dakota?

[caveBEAR]

Singer of the Spill Canvas.

Never listened to them.

our state sucks beccause we grow food for people? really? thats the worst logic ive ever heard.

That's nice that you grow food for us and all, but that doesn't stop your state from sucking. I mean, really? Mt. Rushmore? In Florida alone we have theme parks and beaches.

[loveisdead]

Never listened to them.



That's nice that you grow food for us and all, but that doesn't stop your state from sucking. I mean, really? Mt. Rushmore? In Florida alone we have theme parks and beaches.

They suck now, but The Tide will always be one of my favorite songs.

[MitchellHaaland]

Never listened to them.



That's nice that you grow food for us and all, but that doesn't stop your state from sucking. I mean, really? Mt. Rushmore? In Florida alone we have theme parks and beaches.

so because you have theme parks and beaches our state sucks?
im still waiting for a legitimate reason why south dakota sucks.

[Theseventhson]

:lol:

[caveBEAR]

so because you have theme parks and beaches our state sucks?
im still waiting for a legitimate reason why south dakota sucks.

You bore me. South Dakota doesn't suck, it's just a state, blah, blah, blah, I'm over you.

[Midget Pirates]

look at all these ignorant posts hating on South Dakota.......North Dakota is way worse.

[Broken Parachute]

...as if there's a difference.

[apoemtothedead]

What's the average temperature of south dakota?
Warm enough for agriculture. Which they have.

[loveisdead]

Warm enough for agriculture. Which they have.

Wait there's agriculture there? Shit, let's move.

[caveBEAR]

Wait there's agriculture there? Shit, let's move.

South Dakota: Qwuallified for Agriculture


Give me two months and that will be the new state motto.

[loveisdead]

South Dakota: Qwuallified for Agriculture


Give me two months and that will be the new state motto.

I mean, that could be the next general thread title.

[caveBEAR]

I mean, that could be the next general thread title.

Could be. I don't know who picks the next one, but I'll bring it up for deliberation. Two colons, though? 'General Politics Thread: South Dakota: Qwuallified for Agriculture'?

[loveisdead]

Could be. I don't know who picks the next one, but I'll bring it up for deliberation. Two colons, though? 'General Politics Thread: South Dakota: Qwuallified for Agriculture'?

No. Just Qwaullified for Agriculture. We pick who makes it. The title is always a team effort. I shottied the next one and everyone was mad cause I'm the moderator. Someone suggested you. I dunno talk to me in the general about it.

[Zeran]

why exactly are there two dakotas, anyway?

[apoemtothedead]

why exactly are there two dakotas, anyway?
From my understanding, one Dakota is for the agriculture and the other Dakota is for the Coen Brothers.

[Zeran]

hahaha

[Poe-tryGirl]

Rachel Maddow! Seriously, I want Bernie Sanders to run. He'd really be missed in Congress though.

[loveisdead]

Rachel Maddow! Seriously, I want Bernie Sanders to run. He'd really be missed in Congress though.
He'd never get elected.

[Poe-tryGirl]

He'd never get elected.

Probably not, but it's who I'd want to run.

[WTG]

I'm a huge Republican...but please, not Sarah Palin. I wouldn't vote for Obama...but if the GOP ran Palin, I would be very torn.

[anamericangod]

Probably not, but it's who I'd want to run.

Why?

[The Indigo]

Unsubscribed from Bernie Sanders' Twitter today because I'm sick of tweets about the filibuster. Every tweet in the third person is about the filibuster.

[Jake Gyllenhaal]

Jimmy McMillan (of the "Rent is too damn high" party) announces his intention to run in 2012 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/23/jimmy-mcmillan-rent-damn-high-president_n_800898.html). He will register Republican in hopes of being the nominee.

"I'm coming after his black ass," he said of Obama.

[loveisdead]

Jimmy McMillan (of the "Rent is too damn high" party) announces his intention to run in 2012 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/23/jimmy-mcmillan-rent-damn-high-president_n_800898.html). He will register Republican in hopes of being the nominee.
I'm sick of him. It's kinda funny though.

[xshady121]

This is such a stupid point to make. Is this really where you're going to make a stand? The right NOT to vote? You're right though, and by the sounds of it, maybe you shouldn't vote.

I see nothing wrong with abstaining from voting.

Yea, it was so stupid that you couldn't say anything to refute it. I guess you decided to take the road less travelled on the internet and say something arrogant and pointless rather than actually contributing. Explain to me why me (or anyone) choosing not to vote is such a big deal, otherwise get off your high horse.

I agree with you.

[heyiamcody]

I see nothing wrong with abstaining from voting.



I agree with you.
If you would have taken the time to read the entire conversation between ParkwayTom and I, you'd find a lot more to our conversation and the context by which we had a difference in opinion and eventually found common ground. I don't contest your right not to vote. I just find it to be counter productive in the progression needed in our country, especially with the current state of affairs. Of course, you're able to think differently. I'm not dogging on ParkwayTom whatsoever, but our final correspondence ended with "On some real shit, you're right. I legitimately stand corrected haha. I think I'll try gaining a little more insight on the candidates in the future before I just write them off." If you'd like to see the full conversation, go ahead and read further.

[ParkwayTom]

I see nothing wrong with abstaining from voting.



I agree with you.

I appreciate it man, but heyiamcody speaks the truth. He did have some interesting points to make. I'm not saying that I'm guarenteed to vote in the next election or that you're stupid or a bad person if you don't, but the dude definitely gave me a different perspective on voting.

[caveBEAR]

Voting is pointless when both candidates suck. You should still vote for the lesser of two evils, but it's like eating at Ruby Tuesdays; no matter what you pick, you'll regret it later.

[perceptrons]

Voting is pointless when both candidates suck. You should still vote for the lesser of two evils, but it's like eating at Ruby Tuesdays; no matter what you pick, you'll regret it later.
Seriously, everytime I eat there, I puke that night.

[yves.]

what a qwuality thread.