This is a strech but....

[birdman]

I have beem reading one of the 37 Pete Wentz threads put up today in which an interview was posted were Wentz is crying because his album leaked and he doesn't have enough attention at the moment. A lot of people on this site went to Wentz defense saying that the band worked hard and they should be able to reap the benefits of their hard work.

Fair enough.

However, I feel like it is in direct contradiction to a lot of liberal mindsets that appear on these boards. Jason Tate made a lot of points that I agree with saying that just because Fall Out Boy are platinum selling artists that have done well and Wentz is rich, that people dont have the right to steal from them.

My question is, how is Pete Wentz any different from an exectuive at an oil company who makes a couple million a year and gets his ass fucked in taxes to pay for the welfare of people who cant take care of themselves?

I work hard for my money and the government rapes me with every paycheck, god knows what useless shit my money is going to. I cant even imagine the how a person making 7 figures a year feels. Weird how when a kid downloads pete wentzs record the webmasters go ballistic but when an exectutive at Halliburton makes a few million off of their hard work the government should take it from them so that a 13 year old with two kids who is addicted to meth can pay for her kids Fruit Loops.

[Love As Arson]

False analogy.

It is the record companies that are comparable to the oil companies. Both are guilty of exploiting the populace.

[thatwasamoment]

False analogy.

It is the record companies that are comparable to the oil companies. Both are guilty of exploiting the populace./thread

[entrepy]

People making seven figures a year probably have an entire host of accountants working hard to make sure they do not pay taxes through clever financial rules and off-shore accounts.

[Jason Tate]

I have beem reading one of the 37 Pete Wentz threads put up today in which an interview was posted were Wentz is crying because his album leaked and he doesn't have enough attention at the moment. A lot of people on this site went to Wentz defense saying that the band worked hard and they should be able to reap the benefits of their hard work.

Fair enough.

However, I feel like it is in direct contradiction to a lot of liberal mindsets that appear on these boards. Jason Tate made a lot of points that I agree with saying that just because Fall Out Boy are platinum selling artists that have done well and Wentz is rich, that people dont have the right to steal from them.

My question is, how is Pete Wentz any different from an exectuive at an oil company who makes a couple million a year and gets his ass fucked in taxes to pay for the welfare of people who cant take care of themselves?

I work hard for my money and the government rapes me with every paycheck, god knows what useless shit my money is going to. I cant even imagine the how a person making 7 figures a year feels. Weird how when a kid downloads pete wentzs record the webmasters go ballistic but when an exectutive at Halliburton makes a few million off of their hard work the government should take it from them so that a 13 year old with two kids who is addicted to meth can pay for her kids Fruit Loops.
Never said he shouldn't be taxed for the money he makes -- he should.

[x togepi x]

I have beem reading one of the 37 Pete Wentz threads put up today in which an interview was posted were Wentz is crying because his album leaked and he doesn't have enough attention at the moment. A lot of people on this site went to Wentz defense saying that the band worked hard and they should be able to reap the benefits of their hard work.

Fair enough.

However, I feel like it is in direct contradiction to a lot of liberal mindsets that appear on these boards. Jason Tate made a lot of points that I agree with saying that just because Fall Out Boy are platinum selling artists that have done well and Wentz is rich, that people dont have the right to steal from them.

My question is, how is Pete Wentz any different from an exectuive at an oil company who makes a couple million a year and gets his ass fucked in taxes to pay for the welfare of people who cant take care of themselves?

I work hard for my money and the government rapes me with every paycheck, god knows what useless shit my money is going to. I cant even imagine the how a person making 7 figures a year feels. Weird how when a kid downloads pete wentzs record the webmasters go ballistic but when an exectutive at Halliburton makes a few million off of their hard work the government should take it from them so that a 13 year old with two kids who is addicted to meth can pay for her kids Fruit Loops.

oh wow, rape is totally the analogy you want to be using because you pay taxes. that's exactly like someone being forced into a sex object for someone else's pleasure in probably the most degrading act known to humanity. your analogy should be theft.

as for pete, it's irrelevent. fall out boy has it soo hard!

[HeyCoffeeEyes]

I work hard for my money and the government rapes me with every paycheck, god knows what useless shit my money is going to. I cant even imagine the how a person making 7 figures a year feels. Weird how when a kid downloads pete wentzs record the webmasters go ballistic but when an exectutive at Halliburton makes a few million off of their hard work the government should take it from them so that a 13 year old with two kids who is addicted to meth can pay for her kids Fruit Loops.

Seriously, you have GOT to shut the fuck up.

PS: I'd rather support drug addicts than Halliburton. Dick Cheney has killed way more people than meth.

[TxRepresent]

You think you get raped every pay check? Well just think about the people living in other countries that have way higher taxes than we do, consider yourself lucky.

[dw1003]

I have beem reading one of the 37 Pete Wentz threads put up today in which an interview was posted were Wentz is crying because his album leaked and he doesn't have enough attention at the moment. A lot of people on this site went to Wentz defense saying that the band worked hard and they should be able to reap the benefits of their hard work.

Fair enough.

However, I feel like it is in direct contradiction to a lot of liberal mindsets that appear on these boards. Jason Tate made a lot of points that I agree with saying that just because Fall Out Boy are platinum selling artists that have done well and Wentz is rich, that people dont have the right to steal from them.

My question is, how is Pete Wentz any different from an exectuive at an oil company who makes a couple million a year and gets his ass fucked in taxes to pay for the welfare of people who cant take care of themselves?

I work hard for my money and the government rapes me with every paycheck, god knows what useless shit my money is going to. I cant even imagine the how a person making 7 figures a year feels. Weird how when a kid downloads pete wentzs record the webmasters go ballistic but when an exectutive at Halliburton makes a few million off of their hard work the government should take it from them so that a 13 year old with two kids who is addicted to meth can pay for her kids Fruit Loops.

you're a fucking idiot...

I'm sure it's a real hardship when you have taxes taken out of your minimum wage check from KMart...

You don't want to pay taxes? then don't expect to have any policemen in your city, and don't expect that city to have any roads to drive on...

God... you're unbelievably stupid.

[Rodeo]

Dick Cheney has killed way more people than meth.

9/11 anybody?

[birdman]

hey guys, i said it was a strech

[icameonherface]

Seriously, you have GOT to shut the fuck up.

PS: I'd rather support drug addicts than Halliburton. Dick Cheney has killed way more people than meth.

Halliburton kills people?

[we are cured]

by establishing his domicile in the united states, pete wentz is accepting domestic tax policies. people stealing fob's music has nothing to do with this fact.

[icameonherface]

yeah it was definitely a bad analogy.

cause he gets raped for taxes too I'm sure.

I have nothing against taxes because I know without people below them, that man would not be making millions.

However, I am against double taxation. If we can eliminate double taxation and then raise corporate taxes, I'd be okay with that.

[darling_wanker]

oh wow, rape is totally the analogy you want to be using because you pay taxes. that's exactly like someone being forced into a sex object for someone else's pleasure in probably the most degrading act known to humanity. your analogy should be theft.

as for pete, it's irrelevent. fall out boy has it soo hard!


Rape is also an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse. It makes perfect sense.

[icameonherface]

Rape is also an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse. It makes perfect sense.

oh sick burn. The thing is, Pete Wentz is also raped of his money too.

[HeyCoffeeEyes]

Rape is also an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse. It makes perfect sense.

Except people consent to be taxed by electing officials who are pro-taxation. Rape is, by definition, non-consentual. Moron.

[darling_wanker]

This is rediculous. It's well known that we all need to pay taxes and also that the taxes we do pay go to many less than paramount affairs.

Equality.

[darling_wanker]

Except people consent to be taxed by electing officials who are pro-taxation. Rape is, by definition, non-consentual. Moron.

Ah, ya got me there, you kind heart. But when you are taxed (or not) for things the official you elected did not (or did) claim before he was elected, then it isn't consentual.

[darling_wanker]

oh sick burn. The thing is, Pete Wentz is also raped of his money too.


Too true. Notice I didnt say he wasn't.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

I think we can all get over the rape thing
Rape sickens me to no end
But everyone in this thread knows what he meant by it, so just pick one of the other obvious problems with that he said. My first one would be the fact that stealing apparently becomes ok juts because the person being stolen from has a lot of money. IDIOTIC

[x togepi x]

Rape is also an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse. It makes perfect sense.

that's an old definition. we more commonly use it to describe unconsensual sexual acts.

his logic still doesn't make any sense. he's complaining that the government takes his money by pointing out other people don't complain when others allegedly steal money from pete downloading theleak. that doesn't logically follow at all.

[cfear]

I have beem reading one of the 37 Pete Wentz threads put up today in which an interview was posted were Wentz is crying because his album leaked and he doesn't have enough attention at the moment. A lot of people on this site went to Wentz defense saying that the band worked hard and they should be able to reap the benefits of their hard work.

Fair enough.

However, I feel like it is in direct contradiction to a lot of liberal mindsets that appear on these boards. Jason Tate made a lot of points that I agree with saying that just because Fall Out Boy are platinum selling artists that have done well and Wentz is rich, that people dont have the right to steal from them.

My question is, how is Pete Wentz any different from an exectuive at an oil company who makes a couple million a year and gets his ass fucked in taxes to pay for the welfare of people who cant take care of themselves?

I work hard for my money and the government rapes me with every paycheck, god knows what useless shit my money is going to. I cant even imagine the how a person making 7 figures a year feels. Weird how when a kid downloads pete wentzs record the webmasters go ballistic but when an exectutive at Halliburton makes a few million off of their hard work the government should take it from them so that a 13 year old with two kids who is addicted to meth can pay for her kids Fruit Loops.

Why are taxes bad? I am an anarchist, and I'm not too fond of governmental systems, but I am also a very, very, very liberal person. I understand the necessity for taxes within a political and economic system. The issue of taxes seems to not be understood by most of the youth. All I ever hear is people bitching about the money taken out of their paycheck, but when you ask them why the money is taken out they have no clue. They don't understand that taxes go back into society, in theory.

There are many instances where taxes are used to fund things I personally object to. I don't like the fact that a majority of the money gained from taxes goes to fund the military, but I understand why that is so. It is perfectly logical to me for there to be a system of taxes in a democratic society. In a system of government where tax money is used to prop up the de facto leaders it is obviously unjust, but do you feel that the current government is inherently corrupt? I would assume not (based on your dislike of taxes). The taxes you pay go to help educate you, protect you, enable your hi-tech life, and many other things you probably don't realize. You know how you hop in your car and drive down the road without getting in a wreck because of the traffic network (traffic lights, stop signs, speed limits, etc)? Thank taxes for the infrastructure that enables that.

Of course, taxes also help pay for people who can't afford to live, for whatever reason, a decent life. If helps feed many millions of children whose parents are caught in the generational poverty that plagues many communities in America. Not every single individual on welfare is a drug addict. A majority of the people who receive welfare actual do deserve it. Of course, within any bureaucratic system there are bound to be flaws, so we can't expect the system to be perfect. We can, however, realize that the flaws can be fixed without doing away with the entire system. It is like running a computer program that has a few bugs. If you are smart, like a lot of people, you don't uninstall the program and throw it away. Instead, you check and see if there is an update available for your software, one with most of the bugs fixed, and you download and install that update. (Note: That is an example of a good analogy).

It is simply illogical to do away with the system. Reforms are needed to make sure more money is funneled to people who actually deserve the money. Our economic system has forced many, many people to remain in poverty. There isn't a way out for everyone. The "American Dream" doesn't seem to apply to everybody. We all can't go from living on the streets to trading on Wall Street. It's not logical. Taxes help the people our economic system rapes.

I could go on, but it always seems Mass Comm. & Society disrupts the responses I really want to sink in. I have seven hours to read fifty pages, sleep, shower, and eat something. Whatever...you probably didn't understand what I said anyways, but I really hope you did so that my rudeness was for naught.

Oh...I forgot. The Board at Halliburton doesn't really qualify for doing a hard days work. I mean...when I think hard days work I think coal mining of something that isn't riding to work in a limo, eating thousand dollar lunches, and then maybe having a meeting over some caviar and white wine.

And, Love As Arson, not to attack you, but it would be "Bad analogy." "False analogy" makes no sense at all, but whatever. I am a grammar Nazi.

[music3chick]

that last paragraph... wow

So the kids should pay the consequences of bad parents? So you're saying that the kids should go hungry because they have meth addicts for parents. Whatever the parents decide to do, it's not the children's fault. So yes, some kind of support needs to go to the kids to keep them healthy and sometimes that means supporting the drug addicted parents (unless Child Protective Services get involved).

And not every person on welfare is somehow addicted to drugs.

[Love As Arson]

And, Love As Arson, not to attack you, but it would be "Bad analogy." "False analogy" makes no sense at all, but whatever. I am a grammar Nazi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_analogy

[cfear]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_analogy

Touche, senor. Grammatically that makes very little sense, so your use of it still would set off my alarm bells. It's a sentence fragment. The phrase is correct, I now know, but it's usage is just awkward unless presented within the confines of a sentence. Fuck. That was a run-on sentence. Sorry for that bad use of grammar. I think I might have read one too many linguistic books.

[x togepi x]

Touche, senor. Grammatically that makes very little sense, so your use of it still would set off my alarm bells. It's a sentence fragment. The phrase is correct, I now know, but it's usage is just awkward unless presented within the confines of a sentence. Fuck. That was a run-on sentence. Sorry for that bad use of grammar. I think I might have read one too many linguistic books.

if you're an anarchist, shouldn't you hate grammar? It's essentially a way of writing used by rich white men to discount the ideas of others because it doesn't meet their elitist standards.

[Sleepaway]

I don't believe that people who make a 7 figure salary should be taxed any more heavily than someone who is making minimum wage, percentage wise.