Internet Censorship in High School

[studyingwalls]

So I decided to use the school's computers today because I hgave the first two periods of the day free and I figured since I haven't been to AP in a while, that'd I use this time to start posting again. Only to find that that my school has an internet censorship program on the library's computers. I understand the censorship need for explicit images and such, but text? I think I, as well as every other student, can handle dirty words. Almost every page on AP.net, including the front page, has been blocked from loading because it contains "a large amount of unacceptable or questionable words. I've only been able to load about half of a thread before I get the message at the bottom of the page.

Every thread I've been to has been stopped from loading, and I can't stand it. So tell me, what's your stance on the censorship of speech on the internet by public schools?

[Tristan Needler]

Chances are they don't necessarily want to block the content, but they don't want you posting on message boards on school computers which should only be used for work. Same reason sites like Myspace are blocked.

Very rarely will a site with excess profanity be educationally beneficial.

[thejetstolehome]

i bet this kid won't be able to see your post at school 'cause the word "shit" is in your username.

[MusicalSpirit]

Let the computer admins feel like they're important. It makes them feel special inside. Meanwhile, use a proxy.

Without the sarcasm though, generally speaking, I tend to agree with your overall views, 'studyingwalls.' I can understand the blocking of explicit images and things, but text in general is ridiculous. Sometimes, people take things too far.

[Duane Chaos]

Re: " I understand the censorship need for explicit images and such, but text?"

You have been brainwashed my friend. That is soooooooooo wrong!! What is wrong with a human body? A bunch of puritan F#@!heads decided that they are ashamed of their own sexuality and have been promoting the idea that this is wrong. These are the same people that also show us images of dead humans from Iraq in the news. Porn and other disturbing images exist. It's part of life and people have to learn to deal with it whether they like it or not. The alternative, keep people in a closet then expose them to it at 20+ years of age sucks a@@. I've despise the porn industry that makes it but I despise censorship more.

Someone has convinced you there is a legitimate need for censorship and that is very scary. WHat is needed is an education system that tells people about stuff so they can make educated decisions for themselves.

You're living in a box. So what are YOU gonna do about.

Talk - action = zero

[Sleepaway]

School is for school work, not to visit ap.net.

[Tristan Needler]

School is for school work, not to visit ap.net.
Exactly. People don't understand that the "censorship" is to keep people on task, not to save them from the terrors of the world.

[MusicalSpirit]

God forbid we have some free time at school. That would be terrible.

But yes, I agree that 'censorship' is the wrong word.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

Re: " I understand the censorship need for explicit images and such, but text?"

You have been brainwashed my friend. That is soooooooooo wrong!! What is wrong with a human body? A bunch of puritan F#@!heads decided that they are ashamed of their own sexuality and have been promoting the idea that this is wrong. These are the same people that also show us images of dead humans from Iraq in the news. Porn and other disturbing images exist. It's part of life and people have to learn to deal with it whether they like it or not. The alternative, keep people in a closet then expose them to it at 20+ years of age sucks a@@. I've despise the porn industry that makes it but I despise censorship more.

Someone has convinced you there is a legitimate need for censorship and that is very scary. WHat is needed is an education system that tells people about stuff so they can make educated decisions for themselves.

You're living in a box. So what are YOU gonna do about.

Talk - action = zero


Just because things exist doesn't mean that kids should see them at school
Your Anti-Flag song of an argument is overkill in my opinion

[MusicalSpirit]

Just because things exist doesn't mean that kids should see them at school
Your Anti-Flag song of an argument is overkill in my opinion

Agreed.

[Joe DeAndrea]

AP isn't blocked at my school. :shrug:

[DaveFeelsRight]

https://vtunnel.com.


there you go. stop bitching.

[MusicalSpirit]

VTunnel is blocked at most schools with any kind of online security program. Good try though.

And I think the topic of the conversation wasn't exactly about ways to get around it, but the topic of internet 'censorship' period.

But yes, using a proxy, such as VTunnel, can lead you around the blocked sites.

[aminorthreat55]

School is for school work, not to visit ap.net.
Thank you. You want to waste my tax dollars spending time on the internet? Go to the public library after school.

[thejetstolehome]

AP isn't blocked at my school. :shrug:

that's because Stamford can't afford that technology.

[Duane Chaos]

If you think something is wrong, do something about it. Don't bitch too me if you aren't prepared to take action. I don't give a sh!t that your internet is censored but if YOU feel something is rong with it, do something about it. Otherwise, don't waste MY bandwidth whining.

Sorry if this offends you, this is for your own good. Punk is about non-complacency, not a pillow cry on.

[Duane Chaos]

If you think something is wrong, do something about it. Don't bitch too me if you aren't prepared to take action. I don't give a sh!t that your internet is censored but if YOU feel something is rong with it, do something about it. Otherwise, don't waste MY bandwidth whining.

Sorry if this offends you, this is for your own good. Punk is about non-complacency, not a pillow cry on.

[Duane Chaos]

You're a wuss. If you see someting wrong - do someting about it. Don't f#@ing whine on this board about censorship unless yuou are prepared to fight for your rights. Punk is a fight against complacency. IF you are being censored, fight it. Otherise, become another brain washed moron, get married and live a boring life. Just don't winge on about yoru rights being violated. IF you are not willing to fight for yoour rights, no one else will.

Sorry to sound harsh but I am trying to wake you up. Question everything. Why do you think censorship is okay? who taught yoou this is fine? Ask WTF???

[thatwasamoment]

can't wait till you get home to get on the internet?

[Duane Chaos]

No - I fucked up with learning ha there are are more than one pages of responses and posted twice or soemthing.... My flight from SFO was late getting back to F0ckcover Canada.

Besides - I dont eally care abou tthis or anything else

[Duane Chaos]

Im drunk

[clubberlang]

You're a wuss. If you see someting wrong - do someting about it. Don't f#@ing whine on this board about censorship unless yuou are prepared to fight for your rights. Punk is a fight against complacency. IF you are being censored, fight it. Otherise, become another brain washed moron, get married and live a boring life. Just don't winge on about yoru rights being violated. IF you are not willing to fight for yoour rights, no one else will.

Sorry to sound harsh but I am trying to wake you up. Question everything. Why do you think censorship is okay? who taught yoou this is fine? Ask WTF???


oh senor punk, teach me your ways.....:rolleyes:

[buysoap]

No - I fucked up with learning ha there are are more than one pages of responses and posted twice or soemthing.... My flight from SFO was late getting back to F0ckcover Canada.

Besides - I dont eally care abou tthis or anything else
:headbang:

[AP_Punk]

lol

[atticus1492]

oh senor punk, teach me your ways.....:rolleyes:

I only aspire to be as punk as him someday.

[atticus1492]

Re: " I understand the censorship need for explicit images and such, but text?"

You have been brainwashed my friend. That is soooooooooo wrong!! What is wrong with a human body? A bunch of puritan F#@!heads decided that they are ashamed of their own sexuality and have been promoting the idea that this is wrong. These are the same people that also show us images of dead humans from Iraq in the news. Porn and other disturbing images exist. It's part of life and people have to learn to deal with it whether they like it or not. The alternative, keep people in a closet then expose them to it at 20+ years of age sucks a@@. I've despise the porn industry that makes it but I despise censorship more.

Someone has convinced you there is a legitimate need for censorship and that is very scary. WHat is needed is an education system that tells people about stuff so they can make educated decisions for themselves.

You're living in a box. So what are YOU gonna do about.

Talk - action = zero

Talk - action = 0

Talk - action + action = 0 + action

Talk = action

wow. i was unaware of this fact. thank you. why was i ever wasting my time taking action?

[Mike Kraft]

Re: " I understand the censorship need for explicit images and such, but text?"

You have been brainwashed my friend. That is soooooooooo wrong!! What is wrong with a human body? A bunch of puritan F#@!heads decided that they are ashamed of their own sexuality and have been promoting the idea that this is wrong. These are the same people that also show us images of dead humans from Iraq in the news. Porn and other disturbing images exist. It's part of life and people have to learn to deal with it whether they like it or not. The alternative, keep people in a closet then expose them to it at 20+ years of age sucks a@@. I've despise the porn industry that makes it but I despise censorship more.

Someone has convinced you there is a legitimate need for censorship and that is very scary. WHat is needed is an education system that tells people about stuff so they can make educated decisions for themselves.

You're living in a box. So what are YOU gonna do about.

Talk - action = zero

If you think something is wrong, do something about it. Don't bitch too me if you aren't prepared to take action. I don't give a sh!t that your internet is censored but if YOU feel something is rong with it, do something about it. Otherwise, don't waste MY bandwidth whining.

Sorry if this offends you, this is for your own good. Punk is about non-complacency, not a pillow cry on.

You're a wuss. If you see someting wrong - do someting about it. Don't f#@ing whine on this board about censorship unless yuou are prepared to fight for your rights. Punk is a fight against complacency. IF you are being censored, fight it. Otherise, become another brain washed moron, get married and live a boring life. Just don't winge on about yoru rights being violated. IF you are not willing to fight for yoour rights, no one else will.

Sorry to sound harsh but I am trying to wake you up. Question everything. Why do you think censorship is okay? who taught yoou this is fine? Ask WTF???

He's so punk rawk. Sex Pistols till you die!

[Mike Kraft]

Talk - action = 0

Talk - action + action = 0 + action

Talk = action

wow. i was unaware of this fact. thank you. why was i ever wasting my time taking action?

:shrug: cause you're not punk enough?

[make_this_hurt]

He's so punk rawk. Sex Pistols till you die!
My head hurts from reading what that *** said.

Maybe it's because I'm not punk enough.

[Trainsaw]

My head hurts from reading what that *** said.

Maybe it's because I'm not punk enough.

the sad thing is that guy is probably 47

[clubberlang]

man, if i was as punk(OI! OI! OI! OI! OI!) as duane chaos, id be clay aiken.
:punk:

[atticus1492]

:shrug: cause you're not punk enough?

dammit. that is true.

[s.t.e.v.e.n.]

If you think something is wrong, do something about it. Don't bitch too me if you aren't prepared to take action. I don't give a sh!t that your internet is censored but if YOU feel something is rong with it, do something about it. Otherwise, don't waste MY bandwidth whining.

Sorry if this offends you, this is for your own good. Punk is about non-complacency, not a pillow cry on.

If you think something is wrong, do something about it. Don't bitch too me if you aren't prepared to take action. I don't give a sh!t that your internet is censored but if YOU feel something is rong with it, do something about it. Otherwise, don't waste MY bandwidth whining.

Sorry if this offends you, this is for your own good. Punk is about non-complacency, not a pillow cry on.

please dont waste ours with double posts
You're a wuss. If you see someting wrong - do someting about it. Don't f#@ing whine on this board about censorship unless yuou are prepared to fight for your rights. Punk is a fight against complacency. IF you are being censored, fight it. Otherise, become another brain washed moron, get married and live a boring life. Just don't winge on about yoru rights being violated. IF you are not willing to fight for yoour rights, no one else will.

Sorry to sound harsh but I am trying to wake you up. Question everything. Why do you think censorship is okay? who taught yoou this is fine? Ask WTF???

ironic that you chose to censor yourself in this thread

No - I fucked up with learning ha there are are more than one pages of responses and posted twice or soemthing.... My flight from SFO was late getting back to F0ckcover Canada.

Besides - I dont eally care abou tthis or anything else

"punk is a fight against complacency"

Im drunk

what could be more stereotypical

wow you really are so counter culture and "punk"

[icameonherface]

Um - the school can do whatever the hell they want because they are providing the computers for educational purposes.

[studyingwalls]

Wow, I didn't expect to blow up so much.

I understand the people telling me it's for work, and I admit, I overlooked that completely, but when sites with games, e-mail, and messenger programs AREN'T blocked, I don't think that a message board is doing much worse.

And actually, the site itself isn't blocked, as I said before, it is actually just the text. I have access to the site, thus why I could start this thread. If the site's content were blocked to keep me on task, it would've blocked me entirely, not just sections of text, and just about every other website excluding Google and anything education-related.

[icameonherface]

Wow, I didn't expect to blow up so much.

I understand the people telling me it's for work, and I admit, I overlooked that completely, but when sites with games, e-mail, and messenger programs AREN'T blocked, I don't think that a message board is doing much worse.

And actually, the site itself isn't blocked, as I said before, it is actually just the text. I have access to the site, thus why I could start this thread. If the site's content were blocked to keep me on task, it would've blocked me entirely, not just sections of text, and just about every other website excluding Google and anything education-related.

It's understandable for a school to censor words. I wouldn't consider cursing part of "freedom of speech"

That is weird that it stops running the site after though, however the school is protecting themselves from law suits from citizens, this is why institutions have to do shit like that.

[MusicalSpirit]

It makes computer class suck ass.

It's not just the explict stuff that's blocked at my school. For instance, when I had to write my senior research paper, I was gathering research on my topic, and most of the basic information sites were blocked because of 'school cheating information.' It's research!

[Jason Tate]

Use a proxy.

[Duane Chaos]

Wow, I didn't expect to blow up so much.

I understand the people telling me it's for work, and I admit, I overlooked that completely, but when sites with games, e-mail, and messenger programs AREN'T blocked, I don't think that a message board is doing much worse.

And actually, the site itself isn't blocked, as I said before, it is actually just the text. I have access to the site, thus why I could start this thread. If the site's content were blocked to keep me on task, it would've blocked me entirely, not just sections of text, and just about every other website excluding Google and anything education-related.

This happens in the Chinese Google too. Certain words are blocked. I'm not an expert in thsi but it seems to be common that building walls and censorship have the opposite effect as their intentions. Build a wall and you invite someone to cross/destroy/attack it. Nothing brings attention to an item as much as trying to censor it. Ask M. Manson, Pink Floyd, Sex Pistols et al. Everything that got censored went double plat.

Check this out:
http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/060125-072617