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livethesounds
02/04/07, 02:37 AM
I just saw a longer (and better) trailer on youtube than the ones they are showing on TV.
It doesn't make it look so cheesy....but then I saw who the main villan is going to be...
first a black Kingpin
now a goth kid blackheart.
what
the
hell
The trailer looked awesome and made me wanna see it more, but that part was just terrible.
anyway...any other thoughts on this movie?
ben pequeno
02/04/07, 02:40 AM
this is a movie i would only watch late at night on tnt.
thatwasamoment
02/04/07, 02:41 AM
looks stupid
livethesounds
02/04/07, 02:45 AM
well..honestly, if i wasnt a marvel fan i would probably never watch any of the movies.
I never read Blade comics, and I've never seen the movies.
So i can see where yall are coming from.
FondestMemory
02/04/07, 03:56 AM
it's gonna suck, but i'll see it opening day.
I'm expecting it to suck but hoping it will be pretty good.
FondestMemory
02/04/07, 09:20 AM
i've hated the nic cage choice ever since it was made. i just don't see him as the character. the rest of the movie is also filled with actors i can't stand.
but, it's a comic movie, so my nerdery comes out in full force. i'm hoping i'll be pleasantly surprised.
buysoap
02/04/07, 09:30 AM
it's gonna suck, but i'll see it opening day.
Same
S84newt2000
02/04/07, 09:39 AM
the previews on tv make it look so dumb
gilatron5000
02/04/07, 09:41 AM
what was wrong with a black kingpin? Could anyone have filled the role's size demands nearly as well as Michael Clarke Duncan?
anyway, I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.
thejetstolehome
02/04/07, 09:41 AM
it looks like it will be one of the worst movies of the year.
buysoap
02/04/07, 09:48 AM
what was wrong with a black kingpin? Could anyone have filled the role's size demands nearly as well as Michael Clarke Duncan?
anyway, I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.
What was wrong with black Kingpin?
.... Proabably this:
http://www.spidervillain.com/Villains/Kingpin/Kingpin.gif
The fact that Kingpin is a short fat white man!
Whoops.
gilatron5000
02/04/07, 09:51 AM
he's not short, he's fucking HUGE. He's like 7 feet tall and all muscle.
FondestMemory
02/04/07, 09:51 AM
yeah, i was definitely turned off by the casting of kingpin. but that movie sucked balls anyways. hopefully if he's in one of the next two punishers they'll get it right.
Shatter590
02/04/07, 09:53 AM
i liked michael clarke duncan when he did kingpin in daredevil
then again, i might be the only person who liked daredevil enough to see it twice...
What was wrong with black Kingpin?
.... Proabably this:
...
The fact that Kingpin is a short fat white man!
Whoops.
while kingpin was a fat white guy, he was supposed to be pretty tall too. like just a massive dominating individual.
check it son:
http://www.marvelcomics.com/universe/Kingpin
says he's to be 6 foot 7, 450 lbs.
also... wasn't he already in a movie as kingpin? what was it, that piece of shit daredevil movie?
FondestMemory
02/04/07, 09:53 AM
he's not short, he's fucking HUGE. He's like 7 feet tall and all muscle.
yeah, he's 6-7. but still.
gilatron5000
02/04/07, 09:56 AM
please name an actor that tall and that big who also happens to be white.
Fisk has no superhuman powers, but the majority of his 400-plus pound bulk is solid muscle. When he delivered a kick to the Kingpin's back, Daredevil (http://www.marvelcomics.com/universe/Daredevil_%28Matthew_Murdock%29) could only think, "Whatever that was, it wasn't fat. Felt more like rock". He is a superb fighter who has held his own against Spider-Man (http://www.marvelcomics.com/universe/Spider-Man_%28Peter_Parker%29), recently Daredevil occupies most of his attention.
Cheshire_Buddha
02/04/07, 09:56 AM
I can't be as bad as the Man-Thing film.
Cheshire_Buddha
02/04/07, 09:59 AM
yeah, i was definitely turned off by the casting of kingpin. but that movie sucked balls anyways. hopefully if he's in one of the next two punishers they'll get it right.
The director's cut of Daredevil is actually a god film.
And hopefully Punisher II will never happen, because the first film was terrible.
buysoap
02/04/07, 10:05 AM
Whatever, short, tall, I don't care. In the comics I read as a kid he always looked short.
The point is MCD is black, and no matter what argument you can come up with, that will always always always always bullshit. There are actors for every role. You know who should have been Kingpin? Fat Marlon Brando... if he wasn't dead that is.
gilatron5000
02/04/07, 10:16 AM
I REALLY don't see the big deal with him being black. On 24, they've had not one, but TWO black presidents, and no one on this board seems to take issue. Hell no one in the world seems to take issue with the fact that the president has never been black.
Additionally, this movie was designed to be a blockbuster filled with huge stars and huger explosions(not to mention a vehicle for Jennifer Garner to make the transition from television to movies). They needed a big-name star to play The Kingpin. MCD was perfect. Pardon them for not letting a petty thing like skin tone, er, color their judgment.
buysoap
02/04/07, 10:19 AM
You're missing the point, gilawhatever.
The Kingpin in the continuity of the marvel comics universe is WHITE. That's why BLACK Kingpin is annoying. It's like when they change ANYTHING about the comics for the movies. I grew up with Marvel comics and I don't appreciate these changes, no matter what the reason is. Big-name stars, big-name shmars. I don't give a fuck. Kingpin was white and therefor should be white in the movie.
And fuck 24, that has nothing to do with anything.
At most, for movie purposes, I'll allow Black Nick Fury from the Ultimate universe, but only because he's so bad ass. Nowhere in any Marvel comic is there a black Kingpin.
ForlrnPerplxity
02/04/07, 10:36 AM
this looks like a superhero movie specifically tailored for the white trash.
fluke182
02/04/07, 10:59 AM
Because I'm a comic fan, I will see it. But as a comic fan, I can't promise I'll like it.
gilatron5000
02/04/07, 11:03 AM
and I'm saying that argument is retarded, considering in the movies, Wolverine is at least 4 inches taller than Cyclops, when in the comics, Logan is lucky is he's 5'4". Peter Parker wasn't bitten by a Genetically Engineered spider, it was radioactive. Superman never had a kid with Lois Lane. Joker didn't kill Bruce Wayne's parents. Phoenix wasn't Jean Grey's subconscious, Phoenix was an entity from the shi'ar empire. Constantine wasn't anything like Keanu Reeves, closer to a bisexual Daniel Craig.
Those are all pretty major differences from the comics, but not many people seemed to mind. But I guess if comic book fans had their way, The first X-Men movie would have been Marvel Girl, Iceman (who actually looked like a Snowman), Beast, Angel and Cyclops in yellow and blue spandex. All of the most popular characters wouldn't have shown up until at least X4 or 5. Spider-Man 1 would have included The Fantastic Four and the villain would have been The Chameleon. But they didn't do it that way. Because the movies don't take place within the 616 universe or the Ultimate universe. They take place in worlds where Toad has green skin and Kingpin is black.
buysoap
02/04/07, 11:13 AM
and I'm saying that argument is retarded, considering in the movies, Wolverine is at least 4 inches taller than Cyclops, when in the comics, Logan is lucky is he's 5'4". Peter Parker wasn't bitten by a Genetically Engineered spider, it was radioactive. Superman never had a kid with Lois Lane. Joker didn't kill Bruce Wayne's parents. Phoenix wasn't Jean Grey's subconscious, Phoenix was an entity from the shi'ar empire. Constantine wasn't anything like Keanu Reeves, closer to a bisexual Daniel Craig.
Those are all pretty major differences from the comics, but not many people seemed to mind. But I guess if comic book fans had their way, The first X-Men movie would have been Marvel Girl, Iceman (who actually looked like a Snowman), Beast, Angel and Cyclops in yellow and blue spandex. All of the most popular characters wouldn't have shown up until at least X4 or 5. Spider-Man 1 would have included The Fantastic Four and the villain would have been The Chameleon. But they didn't do it that way. Because the movies don't take place within the 616 universe or the Ultimate universe. They take place in worlds where Toad has green skin and Kingpin is black.
Yeah.
And that's gay.
But black Kingpin is fucking retarded no matter how you look at it. And no matter how many continuity errors you point out that I allready know, it will not be justified. Never. Ever.
FondestMemory
02/04/07, 12:18 PM
The director's cut of Daredevil is actually a god film.
And hopefully Punisher II will never happen, because the first film was terrible.
punisher II and III are both happening. which is fucking awesome. war journal and war zone are their names.
i've gotta agree that they should have cast a white actor as kingpin. It'd be like casting Colin Farrel as Blade... the character was black in the comics so to change that would be changing the source material. Obviously they can't stay exactly on track with the comics, but the main characters should be in place. but whatever... it's done.
a speedo model
02/04/07, 01:43 PM
It will blow.
I can't see it because I know Nicolas Cage doesn't really have that much hair.
Carlo Marx
02/04/07, 03:19 PM
yeah, i was definitely turned off by the casting of kingpin. but that movie sucked balls anyways. hopefully if he's in one of the next two punishers they'll get it right.
If Michale Clark Duncan is in a Punisher movie, he damn well better be playing Barracuda.
pinklipgloss
02/04/07, 04:02 PM
I will only see this when its shown on cable.
Cheshire_Buddha
02/04/07, 06:04 PM
punisher II and III are both happening. which is fucking awesome. war journal and war zone are their names.
I didn't care for the first one. As much as I think Thomas Jane is the fucking man, I could careless about the Punisher sequels, just like I could careless about The Hulk sequel.
I really enjoyed The Punisher.
Jason Tate
02/04/07, 07:22 PM
I just saw a longer (and better) trailer on youtube than the ones they are showing on TV.
It doesn't make it look so cheesy....but then I saw who the main villan is going to be...
first a black Kingpin
now a goth kid blackheart.
what
the
hell
The trailer looked awesome and made me wanna see it more, but that part was just terrible.
anyway...any other thoughts on this movie?
It looks horrible.
The chick in it looks so lame. Why are they making this movie "funny"?
livethesounds
02/04/07, 08:03 PM
haha, i really didint expect this thread to get this many replies...but cool
i've hated the nic cage choice ever since it was made. i just don't see him as the character. the rest of the movie is also filled with actors i can't stand.
but, it's a comic movie, so my nerdery comes out in full force. i'm hoping i'll be pleasantly surprised.
same here. I felt the same way until i saw a new trailer that kinda revealed the storyline better.
i liked michael clarke duncan when he did kingpin in daredevil
then again, i might be the only person who liked daredevil enough to see it twice...
I really liked Daredevil. Thought it was a good movie....
The director's cut of Daredevil is actually a god film.
And hopefully Punisher II will never happen, because the first film was terrible.
Also liked Punisher...though it was like..maybe top 3 marvel movies.
You're missing the point, gilawhatever.
The Kingpin in the continuity of the marvel comics universe is WHITE. That's why BLACK Kingpin is annoying. It's like when they change ANYTHING about the comics for the movies. I grew up with Marvel comics and I don't appreciate these changes, no matter what the reason is. Big-name stars, big-name shmars. I don't give a fuck. Kingpin was white and therefor should be white in the movie.
And fuck 24, that has nothing to do with anything.
At most, for movie purposes, I'll allow Black Nick Fury from the Ultimate universe, but only because he's so bad ass. Nowhere in any Marvel comic is there a black Kingpin.
Yea, nothing is right about a black Kingpin....and hes not from Harlem...as he states in the movies.
I would also not be happy with a black Nick Fury.
It looks horrible.
The chick in it looks so lame. Why are they making this movie "funny"?
The previews on tv make it look absolutely horrid. But it seems they took the worst parts in the movie and put them in one 20 second shit fest. well...thats what I hope at least.
Also I haven't heard anyones take on Black heart being a goth kid. In the comics he was a black demon monster with tentacle like things all over the place, a pretty gruesome character.
JIMMYateEARTH
02/04/07, 09:06 PM
I just saw a longer (and better) trailer on youtube than the ones they are showing on TV.
It doesn't make it look so cheesy....but then I saw who the main villan is going to be...
first a black Kingpin
now a goth kid blackheart.
what
the
hell
The trailer looked awesome and made me wanna see it more, but that part was just terrible.
anyway...any other thoughts on this movie?
All I got to Say was the Black Kingpin was not a bad Idea. I enjoyed Daredevil.
Ghost Rider will be a decent movie
JIMMYateEARTH
02/04/07, 09:08 PM
I didn't care for the first one. As much as I think Thomas Jane is the fucking man, I could careless about the Punisher sequels, just like I could careless about The Hulk sequel.
Punisher movie was one of Marvels best yet. And the new Hulk movie is a do over, not a sequel.
JIMMYateEARTH
02/04/07, 09:09 PM
If Michale Clark Duncan is in a Punisher movie, he damn well better be playing Barracuda.
Aw that would be awesome.
As for the Goth kid Black Heart thing I'm pretty sure they are going for a more Son of Satan role for the character kind of combining the two
Trainsaw
02/04/07, 09:10 PM
my girlfriend wants to see this....god help me
Cheshire_Buddha
02/04/07, 09:12 PM
Punisher movie was one of Marvels best yet. And the new Hulk movie is a do over, not a sequel.
Everyone has their own opinion, I guess. Maybe I'll like Punisher II (or whatever it's going to be called), but I'll stick with the 80s version of the movie instead of the 00s version.
And I see no reason why they should do over The Hulk.
JIMMYateEARTH
02/04/07, 09:18 PM
Everyone has their own opinion, I guess. Maybe I'll like Punisher II (or whatever it's going to be called), but I'll stick with the 80s version of the movie instead of the 00s version.
And I see no reason why they should do over The Hulk.
The Hulk was a decent movie but it could have been done SOOOOOOOO much better. Eric Banna was great in it. The directing was one of the worst parts along with all the weird cut scenes and stuff.
The New punisher is so much better and truer to the Character of Frank Castle than that crappy 80's version.
Dolf was only good in He-man and Rocky IV
JIMMYateEARTH
02/04/07, 09:19 PM
my girlfriend wants to see this....god help me
Dude thats awesome, I wish mine wanted to see it with me.
Cheshire_Buddha
02/04/07, 09:38 PM
The Hulk was a decent movie but it could have been done SOOOOOOOO much better. Eric Banna was great in it. The directing was one of the worst parts along with all the weird cut scenes and stuff.
The New punisher is so much better and truer to the Character of Frank Castle than that crappy 80's version.
Dolf was only good in He-man and Rocky IV
I was just kidding about the 80s version of Punisher. It's a terrible film, and ranks even below the 00s version. I think the reason why I didn't like the newer version of the Punisher was the fact I was never into the character himself for some odd reason.
And yeah, The Hulk could have been so much better than it was, and I agree that Eric Bana was great in it.
PaulsRightNut
02/04/07, 09:48 PM
i cant tell if I am going to like the movie, but i think nicholas cage is really good for the part
Jason Tate
02/05/07, 12:29 AM
The Hulk was a decent movie but it could have been done SOOOOOOOO much better. Eric Banna was great in it. The directing was one of the worst parts along with all the weird cut scenes and stuff.
The New punisher is so much better and truer to the Character of Frank Castle than that crappy 80's version.
Dolf was only good in He-man and Rocky IV
The Hulk was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I almost walked outta the theater.
The trailers I've seen make it look like Bad Boys meets Daredevil.......If this movie is somehow decent I will be very very very surprised.
Princess Slayer
02/05/07, 03:21 AM
Ghost Rider looks OK, but I don't know why they put Eva Mendes in it, I think she looks like a man.
FondestMemory
02/05/07, 04:53 AM
i cant tell if I am going to like the movie, but i think nicholas cage is really good for the part
nicolas cage is horrible for the part.
Thug_Nasty
02/05/07, 06:58 AM
just another shitty made superhero movie.
livethesounds
02/05/07, 01:42 PM
has anyone seen an alternate trailor for Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer yet? All I've been able to find is that one with Johnny chasing the Surfer.
JIMMYateEARTH
02/05/07, 01:45 PM
I was just kidding about the 80s version of Punisher. It's a terrible film, and ranks even below the 00s version. I think the reason why I didn't like the newer version of the Punisher was the fact I was never into the character himself for some odd reason.
And yeah, The Hulk could have been so much better than it was, and I agree that Eric Bana was great in it.
Thats good to know. But the character is one of Marvels best. Who wouldn't want to just ride around and Kill the bad guys instead of just handing them to the authorities
The Hulk was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I almost walked outta the theater.
agreed Hulk was bad, but thats why I'm glad they are going a re-do
nicolas cage is horrible for the part.
I'm gonna say your wrong. J. Blaze really isn't that developed a character anyonen could have played him. Nick Cage being the huge comic fan that he is I'm sure he will do the character Justice.
livethesounds
02/15/07, 11:54 AM
tomorrow. whos going? i think ill probably go, even if i have to go alone. haha (i probably cant get anyone to go with me unless i buy their ticket and compensate for 2 hours of their life somehow)
-Aaron-
02/15/07, 12:30 PM
This movie looks like trash from the trailer and all the crappy commercials.
I still laugh at the fact they are reodoing a movie cause it was just that bad.
thatwasamoment
02/15/07, 12:33 PM
ghost rider the whip
livethesounds
02/15/07, 12:33 PM
This movie looks like trash from the trailer and all the crappy commercials.
I still laugh at the fact they are reodoing a movie cause it was just that bad.
yea, the commercials make it look terrible. there is a trailer (ive only seen on youtube) that actually shows the content of the movie and makes it look good.
ghostrider was never a redo?
slickwataris
02/15/07, 12:43 PM
I thought this came out last week. I have a faint interest to see this.
livethesounds
02/15/07, 12:47 PM
I thought this came out last week. I have a faint interest to see this.
nope, tomorrow
The dialog alone looks like it's going to be amazing!
'I'm good. I feel like my skull is on fire, but I'm good.'
Pure...GENIUS!
livethesounds
02/15/07, 12:58 PM
The dialog alone looks like it's going to be amazing!
'I'm good. I feel like my skull is on fire, but I'm good.'
Pure...GENIUS!
haha, like the only part they show dialoge too.
i think this is going to be much better than the commercials make it to be. i mean..the commercials make it to be total crap so it HAS to be better
slickwataris
02/15/07, 01:00 PM
nope, tomorrow
I could of sworn it was on the billboard by the theater I passed by on the way home from work last night.
livethesounds
02/15/07, 01:01 PM
I could of sworn it was on the billboard by the theater I passed by on the way home from work last night.
coming soon?
JIMMYateEARTH
02/15/07, 02:13 PM
The HD trailers for this Movie are Gorgeous. Hd Channels are for ever playing it. The Flames are so pretty. I really hope this come to the theater in my town that has the HD projetors, movies look so much better on those.
stop snitchin
02/15/07, 06:53 PM
I'll see it if only for eva mendes
slickwataris
02/15/07, 07:46 PM
coming soon?
they don't have a coming soon billboard :shrug:
livethesounds
02/16/07, 01:38 PM
The HD trailers for this Movie are Gorgeous. Hd Channels are for ever playing it. The Flames are so pretty. I really hope this come to the theater in my town that has the HD projetors, movies look so much better on those.
do you think this is gonna blow? i cant find anyone who wants to see it, and the girl im talking to said she would but she might laugh the whole time. id rather just watch it in peace...so im thinking of going after work by myself.
i hope its worth my 5 dollars.
local superhero
02/16/07, 02:31 PM
just got in from Ghost Rider, and i'll repost my response from the entertainment news post
...
Ghost Rider sucked reaaaaally bad
it looked like it could go either way in the previews, and it definitely went the way of suck
acting : meh
dialogue : horrendous
cheesy? : very much so
a speedo model
02/16/07, 03:14 PM
:appl: People expected it to be good?
L'amour
02/16/07, 04:35 PM
Ghost Rider looks OK, but I don't know why they put Eva Mendes in it, I think she looks like a man.
Amen to that sister.
I like Nicholas Cage, but am terribly iffy about this movie. The previews do not make it look good on TV, but I did see the previews on imdb and it seemed slightly more interesting. But Mendes is such a huge mistake. e.e I don't expect it to be good, but if someone took me to see it I'd go. But if anything I'd probably rent this or something. Not going to the theater to pay for it myself.
buysoap
02/16/07, 11:46 PM
I enjoyed it
buysoap
02/16/07, 11:48 PM
You people are so fucking negative in this thread. Lighten up. It's a hard thing to make a comic book that's existed for so long into a movie without making it cheesy, but comic books themselves are incredibly cheesy. Ghost Rider ended up being a pretty decent for what it was, and Ghost Rider himself is just a pretty cool character. It's definitely not the best film ever made, but as far as super hero movies go, it was entertaining. And it was miles better than the Hulk..
Cheshire_Buddha
02/16/07, 11:56 PM
It was decent. I think Cage at least redeemed himself for starring in the Wicker Man remake.
kylecrawford
02/17/07, 06:57 AM
I thought there was a lot of flaws and stupid shit in the movie. The first 30 mins were awesome.When he started to transform was cool but then they went to a whole screen of blazing fire and all of a sudden he was ghost rider. Lame. Also his skull looked too small in the first scene. The bad guys were fucking stupid that they would kick his ass but if he touched them they would go NO NO NOOOOOO AHHHHHH
Black heart. UGHHHH horrible, stupid camera freak in american beauty. EVA sucked, she was worse than katie holmes in batman.
The constant pointing ghost rider did was very very very annoying. I remember the hype on his voice how it was going to be mixed in with lion growls and stuff. It sounded aweful. the fact he could go 200 miles an hour at first but then he was running away from cops, that was kinda lame too. The flicking off to the cops lame. and him riding on water was too.
the thing that takes the cake is, the end. When hes all like Im going to take this curse and use it against you and the devil just goes NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO disappeared, youre the god damned devil, walk up and take his soul jesus christ. If your pussy son can do it ( which looked horrible when he supposedly transformed) then why cant you. noooooooooooooooo ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
also, the whole my dads dead so I cant go with you anymore roxy would be more of a reason to go with her, her father hates her, he has no father. instead they live in the same town never seeing each other. she wasnt a national reporter, channel 3 news. COME ON
although the movie was kinda crappy, it wassssss better than daredevil, it was better than hulk and is in the same catagory as Fantastic 4... even though there was some stupid shit, I will buy this movie and id go see it again today if others were going
I thought there was a lot of flaws and stupid shit in the movie. The first 30 mins were awesome.When he started to transform was cool but then they went to a whole screen of blazing fire and all of a sudden he was ghost rider. Lame. Also his skull looked too small in the first scene. The bad guys were fucking stupid that they would kick his ass but if he touched them they would go NO NO NOOOOOO AHHHHHH
Black heart. UGHHHH horrible, stupid camera freak in american beauty. EVA sucked, she was worse than katie holmes in batman.
The constant pointing ghost rider did was very very very annoying. I remember the hype on his voice how it was going to be mixed in with lion growls and stuff. It sounded aweful. the fact he could go 200 miles an hour at first but then he was running away from cops, that was kinda lame too. The flicking off to the cops lame. and him riding on water was too.
the thing that takes the cake is, the end. When hes all like Im going to take this curse and use it against you and the devil just goes NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO disappeared, youre the god damned devil, walk up and take his soul jesus christ. If your pussy son can do it ( which looked horrible when he supposedly transformed) then why cant you. noooooooooooooooo ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
also, the whole my dads dead so I cant go with you anymore roxy would be more of a reason to go with her, her father hates her, he has no father. instead they live in the same town never seeing each other. she wasnt a national reporter, channel 3 news. COME ON
although the movie was kinda crappy, it wassssss better than daredevil, it was better than hulk and is in the same catagory as Fantastic 4... even though there was some stupid shit, I will buy this movie and id go see it again today if others were going
hahahah what? That was a pretty intense rant for such an anticlimactic ending.
MLLMillenium
02/17/07, 09:22 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Nicholas Cage is a Joke
JewLeeUh
02/17/07, 09:37 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Nicholas Cage is a Joke
No,
I agree with you.
livethesounds
02/17/07, 09:53 AM
You people are so fucking negative in this thread. Lighten up. It's a hard thing to make a comic book that's existed for so long into a movie without making it cheesy, but comic books themselves are incredibly cheesy. Ghost Rider ended up being a pretty decent for what it was, and Ghost Rider himself is just a pretty cool character. It's definitely not the best film ever made, but as far as super hero movies go, it was entertaining. And it was miles better than the Hulk..
I agree. But I don't really even think it was better than the Hulk. Not that far off though.
The fight scenes were pretty bad.
Some of the dialog was just bad, and Eva Mendez sucked. I'm not talking about the cheesy parts. Thats comic books, its cheesy, but some of the dialog was just bad.
I thought there was a lot of flaws and stupid shit in the movie. The first 30 mins were awesome.When he started to transform was cool but then they went to a whole screen of blazing fire and all of a sudden he was ghost rider. Lame. Also his skull looked too small in the first scene. The bad guys were fucking stupid that they would kick his ass but if he touched them they would go NO NO NOOOOOO AHHHHHH
Black heart. UGHHHH horrible, stupid camera freak in american beauty. EVA sucked, she was worse than katie holmes in batman.
The constant pointing ghost rider did was very very very annoying. I remember the hype on his voice how it was going to be mixed in with lion growls and stuff. It sounded aweful. the fact he could go 200 miles an hour at first but then he was running away from cops, that was kinda lame too. The flicking off to the cops lame. and him riding on water was too.
the thing that takes the cake is, the end. When hes all like Im going to take this curse and use it against you and the devil just goes NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO disappeared, youre the god damned devil, walk up and take his soul jesus christ. If your pussy son can do it ( which looked horrible when he supposedly transformed) then why cant you. noooooooooooooooo ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
also, the whole my dads dead so I cant go with you anymore roxy would be more of a reason to go with her, her father hates her, he has no father. instead they live in the same town never seeing each other. she wasnt a national reporter, channel 3 news. COME ON
although the movie was kinda crappy, it wassssss better than daredevil, it was better than hulk and is in the same catagory as Fantastic 4... even though there was some stupid shit, I will buy this movie and id go see it again today if others were going
Black Heart was pretty bad. They didin't show his true form (although they kind of hinted to it at the end)
I thought the first 30 min were pretty bad. very choppy, moving too fast, and cheesy but not in a comic book sense.
I didn't have any problem with the pointing, i think he did that in the comic book. And the other stuff he did I didn't have much problem with either...its a comic book movie, unbelievable shit happens from time to time if you haven't noticed.
no way that movie was better than daredevil or even F4. I'm not even sure if it was better than Hulk.
I've been the one being optimistic the whole time in this thread. and to be honest i was a little let down. However, I think if they make a sequel i believe it could be much better than the first one.
livethesounds
06/14/07, 12:06 AM
k, so did anyone get the "extended version" of ghost rider yet? I'm interested to see if its worth getting.
gilatron5000
06/14/07, 01:19 AM
You people are so fucking negative in this thread. Lighten up. It's a hard thing to make a comic book that's existed for so long into a movie without making it cheesy, but comic books themselves are incredibly cheesy. Ghost Rider ended up being a pretty decent for what it was, and Ghost Rider himself is just a pretty cool character. It's definitely not the best film ever made, but as far as super hero movies go, it was entertaining. And it was miles better than the Hulk..Hear, Here. And wow, I didn't know I was arguing with Matt so much in this thread. Jeebuz.
k, so did anyone get the "extended version" of ghost rider yet? I'm interested to see if its worth getting.I rented it. I thought it was fun. I didn't see it in theatres though.
I think my favorite part was when he gave the cops the finger. I don't know why...
gilatron5000
06/14/07, 01:23 AM
You people are so fucking negative in this thread. Lighten up. It's a hard thing to make a comic book that's existed for so long into a movie without making it cheesy, but comic books themselves are incredibly cheesy. Ghost Rider ended up being a pretty decent for what it was, and Ghost Rider himself is just a pretty cool character. It's definitely not the best film ever made, but as far as super hero movies go, it was entertaining. And it was miles better than the Hulk..Hear, Here. And wow, I didn't know I was arguing with Matt so much in this thread. Jeebuz.
k, so did anyone get the "extended version" of ghost rider yet? I'm interested to see if its worth getting.I rented it. I thought it was fun. I didn't see it in theatres though.
I think my favorite part was when he gave the cops the finger. I don't know why...
hunterstone
08/09/07, 11:25 AM
stupid
SkyHeldUpByStar
07/21/10, 05:08 PM
Oh no! He's at it again:
http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEKwMUiHxmt5OM
http://resources.toolwi.com/resource/preview:2/4af5647f94a1df2bb498c5692b95e40b.gi f
Smash Adams
07/21/10, 05:10 PM
There were scenes in this that looked they cost about $4 to make, almost so terrible they were good, also who would be like yo I don't want to fuck Eva Mendes make me a flaming skullman
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