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icameonherface
02/06/07, 09:14 AM
What do you consider yourself and why?

Sleepaway
02/06/07, 09:27 AM
Conservative.
I suport the United Kingdom Independence Party, which is run by former politicians from the Conservative party in the UK - which is no longer a conservative party.

I just prefer conservative politics in general I guess. I don't like immigration on a large scale, and I am happy that we're in Iraq.

Daveyhavok832
02/06/07, 09:51 AM
I consider myself moderate because I lean toward conservative ideals on some subjects, while I am very liberal at times. I am extremely irritated with people who try to be overly liberal and impatient with those who are extremely conservative.

we are cured
02/06/07, 09:55 AM
I'm a classic liberal. I believe the government should get its hands off my business and money, and I also believe that enlightenment and education are necessary to conduct a responsible society.

catchmealone
02/06/07, 09:56 AM
Moderate, which I think most people try to be, or pretend to be. I'm not sure if I fall under this category, but for what it's worth, every Political Survey I've ever taken has had me pretty much in the middle(slightly left, but pretty much in the middle)

My viewpoints vary on things such as teaching Creationism in school along with Evolution/Big Bang, Pro Gay marriage/"civil union", Pro Life, anti-War/pro-Peace, pro-Medicaid(with major reform, at least in IL).

thejetstolehome
02/06/07, 10:06 AM
liberal, i guess. i lean to the left on most issues so, yeah, liberal.

IAPAI
02/06/07, 10:21 AM
Liberal (or possibly closer to Libertarian). Do whatever you want, as long as you don't shit in my (society's) backyard.

aminorthreat55
02/06/07, 10:43 AM
Liberal, because half of my family are Finnish socialists.

Love As Arson
02/06/07, 11:00 AM
Liberal, but I consider myself a Marxist. This test gives a more accurate analysis as to an individual's political leanings.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

entrepy
02/06/07, 11:21 AM
http://www.politicalcompass.org/

Nice link, I like how you can see which historical figure you are closest to (mine was Gandhi)

Love As Arson
02/06/07, 11:33 AM
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.13

IAPAI
02/06/07, 11:39 AM
Economic Left/Right: -4.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.77

catchmealone
02/06/07, 11:43 AM
Economic Left/Right: -4.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.77
I'm -5.50 Economic L/R
and -2.62 Social Lib/Auth

so we aren't too far apart, which is funny because we had our differences in the God Debate, yet are fairly close in politics.

IAPAI
02/06/07, 11:45 AM
I'm -5.50 Economic L/R
and -2.62 Social Lib/Auth

so we aren't too far apart, which is funny because we had our differences in the God Debate, yet are fairly close in politics.

that's true. I imagine one of the separating points for us was Religion in schools, though.

catchmealone
02/06/07, 11:53 AM
that's true. I imagine one of the separating points for us was Religion in schools, though.
Perhaps. Although, on that subject, I only feel creation should be taught along side Evolution/Big Bang. Not so much as "This is creationism, it's fact", but more as "This is creationism, it is a theory". Our education system should promote our children to think for themselves, and question things, not just memorize numbers and facts to pass a test. This, of course, is more of a high school/college level idea, not so much grade school. Asking 4th graders to critically think on a subject of creation/evolution wouldn't get us very far.

thejetstolehome
02/06/07, 11:56 AM
Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95.

IAPAI
02/06/07, 11:59 AM
Perhaps. Although, on that subject, I only feel creation should be taught along side Evolution/Big Bang. Not so much as "This is creationism, it's fact", but more as "This is creationism, it is a theory". Our education system should promote our children to think for themselves, and question things, not just memorize numbers and facts to pass a test. This, of course, is more of a high school/college level idea, not so much grade school. Asking 4th graders to critically think on a subject of creation/evolution wouldn't get us very far.

haha, I don't want to turn this thread around to a different topic, but if you post that same thing in the God thread I might have something to say about it.

Aww fuck it, I'll say it right here: There is no fucking way Creationism should be taught in classrooms.

The Revisionist
02/06/07, 12:09 PM
None of the above.

Sleepaway
02/06/07, 12:10 PM
I think mine might be fairly accurate, although some of the economy questions were over my head.

Economic Left/Right: 0.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 4.87

notoaststereo
02/06/07, 12:15 PM
moderate. i guess.

Smash Adams
02/06/07, 12:49 PM
Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72

atticus1492
02/06/07, 12:56 PM
Liberal Liberatarian, I guess?

icameonherface
02/06/07, 01:11 PM
Economic Left/Right: 1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49


funny where I am, no famous people are near.

Lower right quadrant.

FarPastGone
02/06/07, 01:16 PM
I consider myself Libertarian. However, in contradiction, I also consider myself an Environmentalist of sorts. Although I wish there was an urge and importance in the life of every individual to not only respect, but help protect and preserve the environment I do not see this being truly possible. I believe government presence in not only protecting the land but mandating environmental legislation is crucial because the principles of Libertarian involvement in the environment rest to strongly on the individuals, which as a whole are highly uneducated on the issues or simply have no great urgency to be environmentally conscious.

s.t.e.v.e.n.
02/06/07, 01:49 PM
Economic Left / Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian / Authoritarian: -4.62

aminorthreat55
02/06/07, 01:59 PM
I'm basically the same as Nelson Mandela.

Bad Luck Prince
02/06/07, 02:01 PM
Conservative.
I suport the United Kingdom Independence Party, which is run by former politicians from the Conservative party in the UK - which is no longer a conservative party.

I just prefer conservative politics in general I guess. I don't like immigration on a large scale, and I am happy that we're in Iraq.


What he said, but the American version.

takingbackrufio
02/06/07, 02:05 PM
Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.00

x togepi x
02/06/07, 04:59 PM
i hate these terms.

for example. take the term moderate. How exactly is supporting capitalism, which is fucking up the third world, the moderate position? To me, that sounds insanely crazy. If Bush were to say, "omg let's attack the rest of the world because they looked at us funny", people would say that's an extremely nationalist policy, yet that's what free market economics does.

i define myself as sort of a situationist. the may rebellion in france, 1968? i like that. i just wish the socialists hadn't sold it out.

Jason Tate
02/06/07, 05:23 PM
What he said, but the American version.
You're 17.

Jason Tate
02/06/07, 05:23 PM
Libertarian anarchist.

thatwasamoment
02/06/07, 05:26 PM
Vulcan

a speedo model
02/06/07, 05:38 PM
Conservative

concernedparent
02/06/07, 06:29 PM
Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41

tambam
02/06/07, 06:40 PM
Moderate. I don't fully agree with either conservatives or liberals, but I fall somewhere inbetween.

x togepi x
02/06/07, 06:42 PM
here's how i score on the test



Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.59

IAPAI
02/06/07, 06:55 PM
here's how i score on the test



Economic Left/Right: -9.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.59

can't get much more extreme than that.

x togepi x
02/06/07, 08:34 PM
oh well. "extreme" is just used to scare people into believing what you think anyway.

cfear
02/06/07, 10:00 PM
I am a left-leaning, anti-capitalist Anarchist. I don't like, or think that governmental systems should be necessary. I would be called a "liberal" by modern day standards, but I hate that term because most modern conservatives are classic liberals. Though I oppose any form of government, I do support taxes because I understand that an anarchy will never happen and that the people who have been fucked by modern capitalism need help. I feel that I need to help others because I am better off than other people. I don't do it because I am forced to. I do it because I feel that helping others is the best way to organize society. If we all work to benefit our friends and neighbors we will all be better off. My own version of Anarchy is very similar to Marxist thought, though it is not a system of government or economic system. No one is in charge. People should just realize looking out for each other is in their best interest. It is just a personal philosophy.

dw1003
02/06/07, 11:03 PM
My political compass

Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64

SockMonkeyRiot
02/06/07, 11:21 PM
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05

Yeah, I'm pretty much The Dalai Lama

Love As Arson
02/06/07, 11:21 PM
i define myself as sort of a situationist. the may rebellion in france, 1968? i like that. i just wish the socialists hadn't sold it out.
I recommend reading Revolutionary Rehearsals by Colin Barker. It documents revolutionary situations, and how the lack of organization prevented an actual revolution.

x togepi x
02/07/07, 01:54 AM
I recommend reading Revolutionary Rehearsals by Colin Barker. It documents revolutionary situations, and how the lack of organization prevented an actual revolution.

is that a book i can get free somewhere? if not, i am not sure i would be able to read it because i have never seen it at the local infoshop, and i am unemployed. I will check some of the pdf dumps that i have bookmarked though.

yeah may 68 was a real disaster when it came to the situationists ever actually getting together and doing something besides holding the university. i just wish that the unions of france had stuck behind them so that some kind of organization could have been made. the situationists back then kind of remind me of what crimethinc is now, a bunch of people with ideas but do not really do anything aside from advocating people not working. i like the situationist ideas, i want to start a group on campus based around them, i just have to find more people who would be down with it besides my roommate (who is not even a student).

BlackButterfly
02/07/07, 02:37 AM
Economic Left/Right: -3.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18

TheOtherAndrew
02/07/07, 03:14 AM
Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64

thatwasamoment
02/07/07, 03:24 AM
I wonder if this foreshadows the upcoming election?

Aside from the non-americans who voted in the poll.

icameonherface
02/07/07, 03:55 AM
I wonder if this foreshadows the upcoming election?

Aside from the non-americans who voted in the poll.

maybe - but the last presidential election seemed to prove otherwise.

thatwasamoment
02/07/07, 04:00 AM
maybe - but the last presidential election seemed to prove otherwise.
well this poll is taking place in 2007.

Me, and APer's like me could not vote in the last election.

icameonherface
02/07/07, 04:01 AM
well this poll is taking place in 2007.

Me, and APer's like me could not vote in the last election.

Yeah, but it is a punk website, Not many conservatives flock their way here and most conservatives are older.

thatwasamoment
02/07/07, 04:07 AM
Yeah, but it is a punk website, Not many conservatives flock their way here and most conservatives are older.http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

It seems the entire US is on par with the AP poll results. If all the moderates on this site were to vote Republican.

icameonherface
02/07/07, 04:12 AM
http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm

It seems the entire US is on par with the AP poll results. If all the moderates on this site were to vote Republican.

The Republicans win in just about every poll except the the Newsweek poll?

I suggest you read down the page more.

thatwasamoment
02/07/07, 04:28 AM
The Republicans win in just about every poll except the the Newsweek poll?

I suggest you read down the page more.interesting phenomenon,as time progresses, it starts leaning towards the Dems.

Curious to see the polls six months from now.

icameonherface
02/07/07, 04:50 AM
interesting phenomenon,as time progresses, it starts leaning towards the Dems.

Curious to see the polls six months from now.

Yeah it is true, but it is all very preliminary. I mean those are generally polls after people have said they are running, but have yet to explain what they're going to do.

We'll see though I guess.

thejetstolehome
02/07/07, 07:39 AM
maybe - but the last presidential election seemed to prove otherwise.

but the '06 Midterms seemed to prove what he said.

Bad Luck Prince
02/07/07, 07:43 AM
You're 17.

I can't have political views because of my age?

icameonherface
02/07/07, 07:44 AM
but the '06 Midterms seemed to prove what he said.

Yes, but Democrats are still losing in all but one poll.