I would like to discuss the status/quality of the Sports Forum

[bigmike]

This is not a reactionary thread to the "Fan of 2 teams in the same sport" thread. I seriously would like to discuss the status/quality of the Sports Forum as it's diminished over the past few months, in my opinion.

There, to me, seems to be a lack of quality posting and way too much bickering (especially tonight/last night. jesus) and I just want others opinions on what would get this forum back to being as good as it was in the spring/summer.

[looksthatkillbn]

This is not a reactionary thread to the "Fan of 2 teams in the same sport" thread. I seriously would like to discuss the status/quality of the Sports Forum as it's diminished over the past few months, in my opinion.

There, to me, seems to be a lack of quality posting and way too much bickering (especially tonight/last night. jesus) and I just want others opinions on what would get this forum back to being as good as it was in the spring/summer.

it seems as though the discussion threads are very well moderated on their own and there are but few horrifically ignorant people that enter every once in a while. it's the other threads that get ugly most of the time...

[looksthatkillbn]

also, why do we always have to react to all of the ignorant people that come in here? you know who's intelligent. you know who generally presents a standard argument. ignore everyone else.

otherwise, do what tate did and we make it a password protected forum

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Honestly, I still think we should create our own forum. I just think it would be a lot better if we could moderate it ourselves.

If we all decide on doing it, I hope we can get the ball rolling on it soon, because I think it could be pretty badass.

[aloneatlastnj]

i really don't know what happened, to be honest. i feel that this forum is an entirely different entity than the rest of this website. with the boston kids banned, and leftwide 'leaving' the site, i don't know what can be done. we run into these little ruts every now and then, and then things get better. i believe it's just a cycle or something.

[Smithers]

this is what happens during "The Lull."

The Lull n. The length of time, usually around a month, between the end of the NFL season and the beginning of the NCAA Tournament and MLB's Spring Training.

During The Lull I like to catch up on my reading.

[Spicoli hey bud]

Caleb

[bigmike]

Nah, it wasn't like this last year during the "lull".

[bigmike]

Caleb
wow. I was just about to put in my post right below yours "nah it wasn't like this last year during 'the lull'. Although we had Caleb's NBA rumors that were farfetched and never came true."

I like the way you think, haha.

[aloneatlastnj]

yes. i was just about to post something like this and i'll say what i was going to:

i think we can all agree that this is hands down the absolute best forum on this site. however, as of late, it seems to have turned into the general forum with sports discussion. whether it be from members bitching at each other or staff, or staff being trigger happy with bans, this forum has deteriorated over the winter. it wasn't like this in the spring and summer during baseball season, and it wasn't like this for most of the fall. everyone needs to chill the fuck out and just get back to what we do best--talk sports. i find it funny that on a "punk" website, i've found the best sports discussions i've ever had. you guys all know more about sports than any one of my friends or family does and it makes for excellent sports talk. i'm grateful that i've found this forum and i'm proud, in a way, that we're usually devoid of all the bullshit that plauges the general forum. it's sad to see that the form has deteriorated as of late and i'd love to see it back at it's height by spring training (9 days away. :excited). i'm confident we can do that again through our common love of sports. please, let's try to do that.

definitely. and we should all try to maintain a mutual respect for each other in our disagreements.

we USED to be able to just be guys and talk about sports, arguing, yelling at each other, and having fun about it. then, some people started to sniffle about their feelings (if this pisses anybody off - deal with it) and it went downhill. I like every single person in these forums. Everybody. I am not a jackass, I am not a mean dude. I just like to flip shit with people to pass the time - as I figured everyone else did. But then all this e-drama started and it's totally lame. I don't know why people can't just "leave it all on the field" sometimes.




just read.

[looksthatkillbn]

i wanted to read the sports forum interviews he was gonna conduct. i really wanted to hear about the trials and tribulations of smush parker :-(

[DaveFeelsRight]

The MLB thread won't be same cause like theres no more red sox talk and thats what made up 70% of the thread.

[aloneatlastnj]

i don't understand how or why this happened. i can agree wholeheartedly that our arguments and discussions were becoming a bit repetitious, so perhaps that's a reason. i'm not sure. i just want this place to be fun. i'm all for making it work. i love this forum. maybe we can think of it as a re-birth of sorts. like it was said, we know who knows they're shit, and who are good for debates and discussions. ignore the pointless shit, and let's talk sports.

[Harold Wood]

It's like that new commercial where people talk sports out of their asses

[youkwalks]

what happen to the red sox fans?

I say we all take a week off.

Remember my "expansion" thread? ya didnt work out....partly because i was too lazy

[Spicoli hey bud]

wow. I was just about to put in my post right below yours "nah it wasn't like this last year during 'the lull'. Although we had Caleb's NBA rumors that were farfetched and never came true."

I like the way you think, haha.
this place has never been dead during any part of the year. A season isn't going on, so what? There's always threads about who's the best ever, or who would you rather have on your team, etc. We need to kick things up a notch, emeril style.

[looksthatkillbn]

i think we're all just screwed

[aloneatlastnj]

i'm with forlrn in attempting to make our own forum, but i somehow think it wont work.

we've (almost) weeded out all the bullshit posters in this forum. understandably this place won't be the same without mike, doug, clearstuff. and i'm sad that they won't be back.

[ThatGuy]

i basically quit coming because i got tired of certain people just being assholes about everything. there were 2 kind of assholes on this forum...mikeford, where you knew he was just being sarcastic with you, and then others who legitimately seemed like real assholes about everything.

that's why i left and i kinda wanted to have a life.

not that i think anyone really missed me/noticed i was gone

[Trainsaw]

people leave, new people come in...happens all the time. Everything will balance itself out, it's just in a rough patch

[looksthatkillbn]

i'm with forlrn in attempting to make our own forum, but i somehow think it wont work.

we've (almost) weeded out all the bullshit posters in this forum. understandably this place won't be the same without mike and doug. and i'm sad that they won't be back.

this would be golden. but pulling it off is almost impossible.

[iwasahero]

Caleb
hahahaha I was going to post the exact same thing.

I don't normally post here, but it seemed like he was the glue that held this forum together. When he left, it went downhill.

[xearlynovemberx]

people leave, new people come in...happens all the time. Everything will balance itself out, it's just in a rough patch

yess

[DaveFeelsRight]

as of right now, i think this whole forum is in an "dark period" but it will eventually clear up...soon.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

i'm with forlrn in attempting to make our own forum, but i somehow think it wont work.

we've (almost) weeded out all the bullshit posters in this forum. understandably this place won't be the same without mike and doug. and i'm sad that they won't be back.
well, if we can take a couple weeks and just figure this out, i think we can really pull it together. that way hopefully no one will bullshit about the moderating. i'm all for this idea of creating our own.

[youkwalks]

Honestly, I still think we should create our own forum. I just think it would be a lot better if we could moderate it ourselves.

If we all decide on doing it, I hope we can get the ball rolling on it soon, because I think it could be pretty badass.
I already tried this.

[aloneatlastnj]

it's already been tried and hasn't worked. i can understand that none of us are 'AP poster of the year' around here. but go back and read everything i quoted that scott said. if we read that, and take it to heart around here, and take a few days/week off and come back to some sports discussion, i think the rough/dark patch will clear up.

[aloneatlastnj]

it sounds lame, but i think we all contribute something around here, and i love our discussions and debates. this forum is an entirely different entity. we're all knowledgeable and have something to contribute, regardless of what people say. (except maybe livethesounds and mattkaufman...kidding, kidding.)


/broseph moment.

[we are cured]

i'm with forlrn in attempting to make our own forum, but i somehow think it wont work.

we've (almost) weeded out all the bullshit posters in this forum. understandably this place won't be the same without mike, doug, clearstuff. and i'm sad that they won't be back.

it can work, if we get a nice interface and the right people from here to start posting

[ForlrnPerplxity]

I already tried this.
when was this/what happened?

[youkwalks]

My "Expand" thread a while back.

but tell me, what happen to the red sox fans on here?

[thejetstolehome]

The MLB thread won't be same cause like theres no more red sox talk and thats what made up 70% of the thread.

then we'll just have to have more Yankees talk. duh.

oh and, yea, i said what i had to in the general thread. let's just chill out, take a deep breath, pull our heads out of our asses, and talk sports. there's only 9 more days til pitchers and catchers (8 now that it just turned midnight) so let's all get fuckin' pumped for the return of baseball.

[DaveFeelsRight]

then we'll just have to have more Yankees talk. duh.

oh and, yea, i said what i had to in the general thread. let's just chill out, take a deep breath, pull our heads out of our asses, and talk sports. there's only 9 more days til pitchers and catchers (8 now that it just turned midnight) so let's all get fuckin' pumped for the return of baseball.oh fuck yes :-)

[thejetstolehome]

My "Expand" thread a while back.

but tell me, what happen to the red sox fans on here?

unless theclearstuff's ban isn't permanent, it's just you, leftwide, and smithers.

[youkwalks]

why?

[thejetstolehome]

why?

doug, theclearstuff, and mikeford got banned earlier in that "can you have..." thread.

[bigmike]

My "Expand" thread a while back.

but tell me, what happen to the red sox fans on here?
mikeford called jason a cum-guzzler or something, theclearstuff and doug were also banned for attacking him is what I've gathered. But I don't want this thread to turn into anything about that. However, it's hard to discuss that when mikeford was a solid poster in MLB, NFL, NHL and NBA, however instigative he was. Also. LeftWideOpen's apparently 'leaving' or something.

It's not that we need ideas and whatnot, I just think the quality of it has diminished more than anything.

[Spicoli hey bud]

unless theclearstuff's ban isn't permanent, it's just you, leftwide, and smithers.
i think his is a few days

[iihungrieii]

scott you dont hate me either?!?!!? :drew:

[livethesounds]

i agree.

Im still trying to be as unbaised as possible, but it comes out from time to time and i get ripped a new one for it. at least i take it.

Im trying to improve on that though...all try and not make any insane remarks in the MLB thread this year.

i love this place, and i want it to be like it used to be.

[The Matt Kaufman]

I know I get bitched on for the stupid shit I say sometimes. Whatever. Honestly though like Matt said this place is a Mecca for sports talk. I have never had people tell me so many things about sports or know more random shit than me. I have people tell me that Im like a sports encyclopedia and then I look up to a lot of you and feel subordinate, in a good way. I know I take things seriously sometimes but I try to just roll with the punches, laugh shit off, and talk sports because thats what this place is. I dont care if people rip on me and call me an idiot or whatever. It doesnt mean anything personally to me.

I encourage everyone to just talk sports and be mature..hopefully we can get back to the way it was last summer when I wouldnt get jumped on for staying stupid shit or having a far off opinion. I stopped coming here as of late because I would get jumped on but decided Id come back when baseball season came and that a break(well not posting all that much as I used to) was necessary.

In any case, now that I think Ive repeated myself 5 times, please just talk sports and forget about other shit. Throw the random stats out there and forget the sand in the vagina if someone calls you an idiot..Its most likely out of love.

[The Matt Kaufman]

i think his is a few days

theclearstuff is gone for a month

[iihungrieii]

I know I get bitched on for the stupid shit I say sometimes. Whatever. Honestly though like Matt said this place is a Mecca for sports talk. I have never had people tell me so many things about sports or know more random shit than me. I have people tell me that Im like a sports encyclopedia and then I look up to a lot of you and feel subordinate, in a good way. I know I take things seriously sometimes but I try to just roll with the punches, laugh shit off, and talk sports because thats what this place is. I dont care if people rip on me and call me an idiot or whatever. It doesnt mean anything personally to me.

I encourage everyone to just talk sports and be mature..hopefully we can get back to the way it was last summer when I wouldnt get jumped on for staying stupid shit or having a far off opinion. I stopped coming here as of late because I would get jumped on but decided Id come back when baseball season came and that a break(well not posting all that much as I used to) was necessary.

In any case, now that I think Ive repeated myself 5 times, please just talk sports and forget about other shit. Throw the random stats out there and forget the sand in the vagina if someone calls you an idiot..Its most likely out of love.

seriously! everybody attacks me and livethesounds when we say anything about the titans.

[johnx]

This forum is the only reason I became a regular poster on this site. This place was unrivaled during the NCAA tourney and world cup. Its been in the shitter lately, but I blame myself and others whom have engaged in pointless banter with moderators and staff. I hope lwo does not leave, and that mikeford and theclearstuff come back eventually because they were part of the heart and soul of this place. Even guys like Kyle (kg00d) and Pete (aminorthreat), its sad they don't post anymore because they were such valuable assets. I love this place, you are all such intelligent sports fans and I hope this place never dies.

[The Matt Kaufman]

seriously! everybody attacks me and livethesounds when we say anything about the titans.

See theres a difference between some of the attacks though..You guys get it from everyone in a joking manner and because of what livethesounds used to say last summer about the astros. I get it because Ill say things that make me sound stupid and less knowledgable even though most likely its a brainfart..but honestly its all in all good fun..I try to think

[livethesounds]

See theres a difference between some of the attacks though..You guys get it from everyone in a joking manner and because of what livethesounds used to say last summer about the astros. I get it because Ill say things that make me sound stupid and less knowledgable even though most likely its a brainfart..but honestly its all in all good fun..I try to think

haha yea. i get shit for stuff i said nearly a year ago, i dont care.

[Jason Tate]

What I said in the other thread, and I'll repeat here -- if you want more quality posters - invite your friends to come post here. New users don't grow on trees.

The issue is the majority of you don't let a new user become a veteran, so the quality of conversation will only get worse. People need to get their feet wet, go with the learning curve, etc. Otherwise you're just sitting here playing with yourselves.

[The Matt Kaufman]

haha yea. i get shit for stuff i said nearly a year ago, i dont care.

Right..but if you and me and lets say histrionics for example thought that it was degrading or took it seroiusly we wouldnt be having this conversation right now.

[The Matt Kaufman]

What I said in the other thread, and I'll repeat here -- if you want more quality posters - invite your friends to come post here. New users don't grow on trees.

We had quality posters but they said boo to you and you banned them.

[Jason Tate]

We had quality posters but they said boo to you and you banned them.
They weren't quality posters - that's why they were banned. And if you think 3 people make up the "quality" on these forums, no wonder you're all complaining instead of acting.

[The Matt Kaufman]

They weren't quality posters - that's why they were banned. And if you think 3 people make up the "quality" on these forums, no wonder you're all complaining instead of acting.

They were Jason. They didnt make up the whole forum but they added things to the forum. Sure they were pricks. They were most of the time to me. I laugh it off and its all good. I didnt take it seriously.

The point is that I think you should reconsider at least having them back within a month or so (all of them) and give them a second chance. Its not like Slade where he kept doing the same shit over and over again.

[looksthatkillbn]

They weren't quality posters - that's why they were banned. And if you think 3 people make up the "quality" on these forums, no wonder you're all complaining instead of acting.

i would venture to say that despite his abrasive tone mikeford was the most overall knowledgeable person in this forum.

[CarlMonday]

those guys must have been real jerks.

[Drew Beringer]

Man, I missed a lot.

[The Matt Kaufman]

i would venture to say that despite his abrasive tone mikeford was the most overall knowledgeable person in this forum.

Precisely..the guy knew so much..I mean what guy could remember what pitch Hideki Irabu throws?

[The Matt Kaufman]

Man, I missed a lot.

pretty much the sports forum has combusted

kaboom.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

i would venture to say that despite his abrasive tone mikeford was the most overall knowledgeable person in this forum.
Oh man, I would definitely disagree with that. He made inane comments a lot when he wasn't talking about the Red Sox. But with that, I still miss those guys. I think they should be given a 2nd chance and let back. The Sports Forum will be a lot more boring without them.

[Jason Tate]

They were Jason. They didnt make up the whole forum but they added things to the forum. Sure they were pricks. They were most of the time to me. I laugh it off and its all good. I didnt take it seriously.

The point is that I think you should reconsider at least having them back within a month or so (all of them) and give them a second chance. Its not like Slade where he kept doing the same shit over and over again.
Nope. This is not what the forums were made for - and they're not welcome here.

[bigmike]

i would venture to say that despite his abrasive tone mikeford was the most overall knowledgeable person in this forum.
I wouldn't say most overall knowledgeable but he's in the discussion. Yes he's an instigator (he's admitted so to Caleb) and that's perhaps why him and Jason don't get along. However, beneath that instigator he is well rounded and when he wanted to brought great conversation to baseball, the NBA, the NFL and the NHL threads.

[Jason Tate]

i would venture to say that despite his abrasive tone mikeford was the most overall knowledgeable person in this forum.
Well, his abrasive tone cost him. Too bad.

[Drew Beringer]

Well, at least Colts are Super Bowl champions.

[livethesounds]

i think everyone needs a forum hug

[The Matt Kaufman]

They weren't quality posters - that's why they were banned. And if you think 3 people make up the "quality" on these forums, no wonder you're all complaining instead of acting.

So after thinking about this post more, you essentially banned people because they werent quality (besides attacking you of course)...

Have you actually lurked enough in the threads to see what those guys have added? Mikeford, TheClearstuff, whoever else was banned are like baseball encyclopedias...I encourage you to reread what theyve said before making that opinion.

[Jason Tate]

pretty much the sports forum has combusted

kaboom.
That's weird -- because I see a plethora of new users already starting to post. Much like when Slade finally left the general forum. I'd be willing to bet this forum becomes more popular in the next few weeks ... and I'll be following the numbers to see.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Well, at least Colts are Super Bowl champions.
Watch the Pacers surprise all and win the NBA Championship.



bwahahahah sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face. I think they have a pretty decent shot at the Finals tho.

[looksthatkillbn]

I wouldn't say most overall knowledgeable but he's in the discussion. Yes he's an instigator (he's admitted so to Caleb) and that's perhaps why him and Jason don't get along. However, beneath that instigator he is well rounded and when he wanted to brought great conversation to baseball, the NBA, the NFL and the NHL threads.

that's because he's right there with you lol

[The Matt Kaufman]

That's weird -- because I see a plethora of new users already starting to post. Much like when Slade finally left the general forum. I'd be willing to bet this forum becomes more popular in the next few weeks ... and I'll be following the numbers to see.

What I meant was that the old time regulars have been banned and that new blood is coming in. Yeesh.

[looksthatkillbn]

That's weird -- because I see a plethora of new users already starting to post. Much like when Slade finally left the general forum. I'd be willing to bet this forum becomes more popular in the next few weeks ... and I'll be following the numbers to see.

quantity does not equal quality

[bigmike]

That's weird -- because I see a plethora of new users already starting to post. Much like when Slade finally left the general forum. I'd be willing to bet this forum becomes more popular in the next few weeks ... and I'll be following the numbers to see.
Am I missing something (maybe they're in the threads I haven't checked yet since this one keeps getting new posts), but who are these new people posting?

[Drew Beringer]

Watch the Pacers surprise all and win the NBA Championship.



bwahahahah sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face. I think they have a pretty decent shot at the Finals tho.
If that happens, my body will explode.

[bigmike]

If that happens, my body will explode.
If that happens my head will explode.

Edit: i didn't think C-Webb would fit in, but he's relishing in his role -- something I didn't think he would be able to do.

[Jason Tate]

So after thinking about this post more, you essentially banned people because they werent quality (besides attacking you of course)...

You're going to open this debate, again?

Have you actually lurked enough in the threads to see what those guys have added? Mikeford, TheClearstuff, whoever else was banned are like baseball encyclopedias...I encourage you to reread what theyve said before making that opinion.

I read the forums on a daily basis. Why are you re-hashing things for the nth time?

What I meant was that the old time regulars have been banned and that new blood is coming in. Yeesh.

It's good for the forums.

quantity does not equal quality

It does when you're discussing a forum, where the idea is quantity. 6 people fingering themselves is not why these forums were made.

[xearlynovemberx]

i'll only miss doug

[ForlrnPerplxity]

If that happens my head will explode.

Edit: i didn't think C-Webb would fit in, but he's relishing in his role -- something I didn't think he would be able to do.
Nothing would make me happier to see the Pacers and Pistons meet in the conference finals and have the Pacers finally beat them.

[The Matt Kaufman]

You pretty much were looking for a reason to ban people you dont like. Thats what it seems like to me Jason.

Whatever. Goodnight.

[looksthatkillbn]

It does when you're discussing a forum, where the idea is quantity. 6 people fingering themselves is not why these forums were made.

let's not forget the difference between good idea and bad idea also though.

[Jason Tate]

You pretty much were looking for a reason to ban people you dont like. Thats what it seems like to me Jason.

Whatever. Goodnight.
I don't need a reason to ban people I don't like.

[bigmike]

Nothing would make me happier to see the Pacers and Pistons meet in the conference finals and have the Pacers finally beat them.
The Pacers would struggle to beat the Bulls in the 1st round, in my opinion.

[Jason Tate]

let's not forget the difference between good idea and bad idea also though.
There's no such thing, only a difference in opinion.

[xearlynovemberx]

The Pacers would struggle to beat the Bulls in the 1st round, in my opinion.

the pacers would struggle to beat a team full of kids in wheelchairs in the first round

[Harold Wood]

I don't need a reason to ban people I don't like.

Cool

that's professional.

[Drew Beringer]

the pacers would struggle to beat a team full of kids in wheelchairs in the first round
Shut up, Knicks fan. Pacers are only one and a half game behind Cleveland right now.

[looksthatkillbn]

There's no such thing, only a difference in opinion.

but let's be honest with ourselves jason, there's a lot of "ideas" that in no way need to be added to this forum. it's happened before. and it will continue happening.

[CarlMonday]

its a pretty good mentality to have, it rivals that of the girls on my super sweet 16.

[xearlynovemberx]

Shut up, Knicks fan. Pacers are only one and a half game behind Cleveland right now.

and they still suck:-D

[Drew Beringer]

and they still suck:-D
Knicks' fan's cannot comment on other team's "sucking."

[xearlynovemberx]

if the knicks were consistent they would have more wins..or atleast same amount

[bigmike]

Beringer[/LEFT];5606549]Shut up, Knicks fan. Pacers are only one and a half game behind Cleveland right now.
I don't know if the Pacers could stop Lebron.

So far he's gone for 30, 7 boards, 5 assists, 1 steal in their first meeting and 27, 7 boards, 1 steal, 1 block in the 2nd meeting.

[Spicoli hey bud]

Shut up, Knicks fan. Pacers are only one and a half game behind Cleveland right now.
Knicks are only 4 games out of 1st.

and 6 games below 500...

[ForlrnPerplxity]

The Pacers would struggle to beat the Bulls in the 1st round, in my opinion.
They are really meshing well as a team right now. Also, there's no dominant team in the East. I mean, aren't they only 3 games out from leading the league?

[Drew Beringer]

I don't know if the Pacers could stop Lebron.

So far he's gone for 30, 7 boards, 5 assists, 1 steal in their first meeting and 27, 7 boards, 1 steal, 1 block in the 2nd meeting.
I know, but I'm just saying the Pacers and Cavs are very equal right now.

[bigmike]

Knicks' fan's cannot comment on other team's "sucking."
Knicks could win their division.
if the knicks were consistent they would have more wins..or atleast same amount
But... they aren't.

[Drew Beringer]

if the knicks were consistent they would have more wins..or atleast same amount
You can say that about any team.

[xearlynovemberx]

Knicks could win their division.

But... they aren't.

I know :shrug:

[ForlrnPerplxity]

if the knicks were consistent they would have more wins..or atleast same amount
that's like saying if the celtics were good, they'd have more wins.

[Drew Beringer]

Knicks could win their division.

But... they aren't.
They still suck ass. That division should just be eliminated from the NBA this year, NONE of those teams deserve the playoffs.

[Jason Tate]

but let's be honest with ourselves jason, there's a lot of "ideas" that in no way need to be added to this forum. it's happened before. and it will continue happening.
Disagree. This is a forum.

[xearlynovemberx]

that's like saying if the celtics were good, they'd have more wins.

gtfo:-D

[thejetstolehome]

Knicks could win their division.



the group of mentally challenged kids that work in my dining hall could win that division.

[bigmike]

They are really meshing well as a team right now. Also, there's no dominant team in the East. I mean, aren't they only 3 games out from leading the league?
True, however, the Pistons have been surging and are figuring out defensive life after ben wallace. Too bad I was dead wrong on Nazr Mohammed. Just don't let Weber see this, haha.
I know, but I'm just saying the Pacers and Cavs are very equal right now.
Right. But if they met in say, the 2nd round (if they finished like 4-5 in the conference) I think Cleveland would beat them.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

woah, when did I pass 4k?

[xearlynovemberx]

They still suck ass. That division should just be eliminated from the NBA this year, NONE of those teams deserve the playoffs.

truth be told..i dont care if the knicks make it as long as they win 30+ games

[thejetstolehome]

that's like saying if the celtics were good, they'd have more wins.

hahahahahahahaha.

[Jason Tate]

Cool

that's professional.
Actually, it's exactly professional. It's the same policy in effect on every major website on the internet. I'm sure you've seen the "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" signs around as well?

We're a private company. That's my professional decision. We've grown every year since our inception. I know what I'm doing.

[thejetstolehome]

woah, when did I pass 4k?

3 posts ago, apparently.

and i'm gonna hit 20k soon. my soul is gone.

[Drew Beringer]

True, however, the Pistons have been surging and are figuring out defensive life after ben wallace. Too bad I was dead wrong on Nazr Mohammed. Just don't let Weber see this, haha.

Right. But if they met in say, the 2nd round (if they finished like 4-5 in the conference) I think Cleveland would beat them.
cool

[bigmike]

They still suck ass. That division should just be eliminated from the NBA this year, NONE of those teams deserve the playoffs.
Yeah. Well, that should've been enforced like 3 or so years ago. I know the NFC North is bad in football, but the Atlantic division in the NBA is the worst division in sports.

[CarlMonday]

ok just drop it, at this point you are simply trying to instigate.

ignore all comments regarding the situation and everything will be better off.

jeeeez

[ForlrnPerplxity]

True, however, the Pistons have been surging and are figuring out defensive life after ben wallace. Too bad I was dead wrong on Nazr Mohammed. Just don't let Weber see this, haha.
I really wouldn't expect this to last with Webber.

Also, the most surprising thing out of the Pacers this year is Jamaal Tinsley's health. They've really started to pull together some wins since they trade, and if they make the progress I think they will for the rest of the season, I seriously think a Pacers-Pistons match up would make a great series.

[thejetstolehome]

Yeah. Well, that should've been enforced like 3 or so years ago. I know the NFC North is bad in football, but the Atlantic division in the NBA is the worst division in sports.

NL West?

[Jason Tate]

ok just drop it, at this point you are simply trying to instigate.

ignore all comments regarding the situation and everything will be better off.

jeeeez
Use the quote button, I have no idea who you're talking to.

[xearlynovemberx]

my plan to fix the knicks: trade frye for a pick in the top 15 plz

[bigmike]

I really wouldn't expect this to last with Webber.

Also, the most surprising thing out of the Pacers this year is Jamaal Tinsley's health. They've really started to pull together some wins since they trade, and if they make the progress I think they will for the rest of the season, I seriously think a Pacers-Pistons match up would make a great series.
Oh, I meant Scott Weber. I kept telling him that Nazr Mohammed would have a breakout year. But, he's played himself onto the bench.

I'm not denying it would be a great series, i just think that Lebron could single-handedly beat the Pacers. I mean, he almost did that to the Pistons, a far superior defensive squad than they are now, or anyone in the East is. I really think Cleveland is scary come playoff time.
NL West?
Atlantic's worse, I think.

[thejetstolehome]

Use the quote button, I have no idea who you're talking to.

i think he just meant that in general, directed at everyone.

[CarlMonday]

Use the quote button, I have no idea who you're talking to.


you are a smart guy, you probably could figure it out without a problem.


if your goal isnt to just ban everyone, then just be a man and ignore comments made about everything that has occured.

responding to them, and being a catalyst to a situation which many people view as unfortunate is being extremely counterproductive.

[Harold Wood]

Actually, it's exactly professional. It's the same policy in effect on every major website on the internet. I'm sure you've seen the "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" signs around as well?

We're a private company. That's my professional decision. We've grown every year since our inception. I know what I'm doing.

I didn't say you did not. You obviously do.

[thejetstolehome]

Atlantic's worse, I think.

i think they're pretty similar--one team at or above .500 leading with the rest, save for maybe a second place team with a similar record, being either incredibly mediocre or sub par.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Oh, I meant Scott Weber. I kept telling him that Nazr Mohammed would have a breakout year. But, he's played himself onto the bench.

I'm not denying it would be a great series, i just think that Lebron could single-handedly beat the Pacers. I mean, he almost did that to the Pistons, a far superior defensive squad than they are now, or anyone in the East is. I really think Cleveland is scary come playoff time.

Atlantic's worse, I think.
Yeah, Lebron is definitely a guy who could step up in that series and beat the Pacers, but I still think it would come down to the wire. The Pacers really don't have anybody they can throw at him, so pretty good point.

Oh well, the East is up for grabs. There are like 6 teams in the mix who could very easily make the Finals in the East.

[bigmike]

Yeah, Lebron is definitely a guy who could step up in that series and beat the Pacers, but I still think it would come down to the wire. The Pacers really don't have anybody they can throw at him, so pretty good point.

Oh well, the East is up for grabs. There are like 6 teams in the mix who could very easily make the Finals in the East.
yeah for sure. The only thing that offers me any comfort is the defensive game we played against them over the weekend and when worse comes to worse, we can put Tayshaun on him and his length bothers Lebron, until he posts him up.

And the east is up for grabs. I honestly do not expect the Pistons to make the Eastern Conference Finals.

[Drew Beringer]

Lebron doesn't have that killer instinct like Wade or Kobe, or even Arenas for that matter. I mean, the Cavs have been blowing a few games lately like crazy.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

yeah for sure. The only thing that offers me any comfort is the defensive game we played against them over the weekend and when worse comes to worse, we can put Tayshaun on him and his length bothers Lebron, until he posts him up.

And the east is up for grabs. I honestly do not expect the Pistons to make the Eastern Conference Finals.
How come? It seems like they have as good of a bet as any team in the East to make it.

[ForlrnPerplxity]

Lebron doesn't have that killer instinct like Wade or Kobe, or even Arenas for that matter. I mean, the Cavs have been blowing a few games lately like crazy.
I think you'd be pretty surprised what Lebron could do in a playoff series.

[xearlynovemberx]

off topic but funny nontheless:

rZxNeFLuY98

[Drew Beringer]

I think you'd be pretty surprised what Lebron could do in a playoff series.
Oh I know what he can do, I'm just talking about this year. I'd rather have Wade for sure over LBJ, probably Kobe as well.

[bigmike]

Lebron doesn't have that killer instinct like Wade or Kobe, or even Arenas for that matter. I mean, the Cavs have been blowing a few games lately like crazy.
He disproved that theory at the end of last season when he took over games and hit a bunch of winning shots in a row. Not to mention taking 4 Pistons defenders to stop him in the final two games of that playoff series coupled with his teammates failing him. I disagree completely that he's not a guy with a 'killer instinct'.
How come? It seems like they have as good of a bet as any team in the East to make it.
Flip Saunders. I think he's the weak link and downfall of this team.

[dekdog11]

i really have no idea what has gone on the past couple days. i hope its gone now though.

[Goodbye Forever]

off topic but funny nontheless:

rZxNeFLuY98

10-6 > 8-8.

[bigmike]

Jason: http://absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=5606337#post560633 7


And you wonder why the sports forum sucks? Dude. This is why. You're ridiculous. He made a choice, one that may be completely fool-headed -- but who the hell cares!? You think his opinion is ridiculous, good. That's great. Saying, "I disagree, and here's why .... list reasons" is all that's needed. The reactions it got the first time (and now the second time) are not.

The point is -- he's not wrong. He's wrong in your mind, and others minds, but it's a moot point. He simply feels differently than you do. However, your reaction to become the "super-master-statistics-everything-is-black-or-white" poster simply degrades the forums. Now he doesn't go back, now you have one less poster. The forums are not for 6 jack-offs that memorized their baseball card collections to sit around and make other people feel bad. They're for people to talk about sports -- talk about games -- and express opinions -- YES, even wrong ones. Why? Because it fuels discussion and when handled correctly people are able to learn. However, when they're cussed at after posting once or twice, you'll sit there playing with yourselves for the next 4 months -- and that's not what these forums are created for. If you wanna drop me a few grand to cover the expenses, I'll make you and your buddies your own private forum to go talk about sports by yourselves.
I can't respond since I've been in here discussing the basketball that this thread turned into and that thread was locked, but how is my post where i gave him facts and what not about why I think his statement was wrong is what is bad about the sports forum? I was nice, I laid out my side of the argument? Is calling his argument/statement 'ridiculous' really that bad? I'm seriously just wondering since I can't respond in that thread because I didn't get back there in time.

[xearlynovemberx]

10-6 > 8-8.

i love you

[Drew Beringer]

He disproved that theory at the end of last season when he took over games and hit a bunch of winning shots in a row. Not to mention taking 4 Pistons defenders to stop him in the final two games of that playoff series coupled with his teammates failing him. I disagree completely that he's not a guy with a 'killer instinct'.

Flip Saunders. I think he's the weak link and downfall of this team.
I wasn't saying he didn't have one, I just think that D-Wade's and Kobe's is more.

[Goodbye Forever]

i love you

:beerbros:

[bigmike]

I wasn't saying he didn't have one, I just think that D-Wade's and Kobe's is more.
Oh, I gotcha now.

[xearlynovemberx]

:beerbros:

cant wait for the game this season!

[iihungrieii]

dont matter who wins the east. everybody knows the champion is coming from the west.

[thatwasamoment]

dont matter who wins the east. everybody knows the champion is coming from the west.
Utah deserves it. jerry Sloan deserves it.

[Scott Weber]

I haven't been super involved in all the drama, so I'll say my 2 cents and peace out. I understand why mikeford was banned, and why Jason did it. I think that mikeford and doug were knowledgable posters who really kept the forums moving around here, even though mike was a dick, he was a regular and it became somewhat hilarious and endearing. sort of an icon. i will miss both of those guys and I hope they get another chance because they were part of the reason the sports forum grew so much over the past 6 months or so. this place will be fine, and I'll always be around here no matter what because I love this forum, no matter what changes it goes through.

bedtime.

[Spicoli hey bud]

sweet speech.

guess it's time to watch we are marshall.

[bigmike]

dont matter who wins the east. everybody knows the champion is coming from the west.
Yeah. Just like how Malone/Shaq/Kobe/Payton were just going to run through the NBA to it's title.

2 of the last 3 NBA Champions have been from the Eastern Conference.

[The Matt Kaufman]

This is the last post Ill post on the drama shit

Essentially this is how I see things:

Jason sees some of the sports forum members as a nuisance to his site. While we all get along, when Jason comes in he feels that anything said towards him is an attack (which it is) and instead of brushing it off he flexes his authority. This is fine. However, this does hurt the sports forum because the people that were banned were good posters, even if they were pricks about it. Unfortunately, Jason felt this was necessary and didnt see them in any type of positive light and felt the need to ban them.

Its a damn shame but whatever.

Scott says it best and I agree with him. They were good posters but I understand why they got banned. I hope they get a 2nd shot.

[histrionics22]

The only problem is, as much time as Jason says he spends here, he clearly has no fucking idea what its normally like here.

[histrionics22]

And really, if Tate is too big of a baby to moderate this without banning people that own him, then we should get a new website. Youkwalks was right.

[iihungrieii]

Yeah. Just like how Malone/Shaq/Kobe/Payton were just going to run through the NBA to it's title.

2 of the last 3 NBA Champions have been from the Eastern Conference.

i just dont see any team that has a real shot this year. the east just looks so weak this year compared to the other years

[bigmike]

i just dont see any team that has a real shot this year. the east just looks so weak this year compared to the other years
The east always looks weak against the West. Dallas was much better than the Heat. The Lakers, in many people's eyes, were much better than the Pistons.

[MrMet]

don't worry everyone. The Carlos Beltran is better than you 2007 edition thread is coming back and it will bring this place out of the rut that it currently is in!!!!!

[MrMet]

:-p

[Talib Scottie]

Lebron doesn't have that killer instinct like Wade or Kobe, or even Arenas for that matter. I mean, the Cavs have been blowing a few games lately like crazy.

Yeah, I think Gilbert Arenas is nipping at Kobe and Wade's heels now. Dude's got ice water in his veins with the game on the line and he knows he's going to win the game.

[bigmike]

Yeah, I think Gilbert Arenas is nipping at Kobe and Wade's heels now. Dude's got ice water in his veins with the game on the line and he knows he's going to win the game.
Yeah, like when he hit that free throw against the Cavs in the playoffs? :-p

[Talib Scottie]

Yeah, like when he hit that free throw against the Cavs in the playoffs? :-p

Ha, well I was more or less referring to this year. It seems like every time I turn on Sportscenter he's taking over a game, but I was pulling for the Cavs in that so, :-P back atcha

[El_Jeffe]

can't wait till september, when i'll start my 'official rugby world cup' thread haha

[bigmike]

Ha, well I was more or less referring to this year. It seems like every time I turn on Sportscenter he's taking over a game, but I was pulling for the Cavs in that so, :-P back atcha
Yeah, he's been real good. But he's not alone on that team, they've got a couple solid pieces around him.

[iihungrieii]

definitely, butler has always been underrated to me. finally made it to an all star game

[we are cured]

don't worry everyone. The Carlos Beltran is better than you 2007 edition thread is coming back and it will bring this place out of the rut that it currently is in!!!!!

haha i can't wait

[icameonherface]

Here are my two cents:

We all have a mutual respect for each other. We all call each other names in a sarcastic joking manner, but some people take words that they read on an internet message board far too seriously. It is sports and people come from different regions of the country and everyone is stubborn over their opinion. I understand why Mikeford was banned, but you have also banned people from threads on a whim. You say you consistently read these forums, but that is not true. Considering your fantasy league post when there have been multiple threads throughout the year discussing fantasy leagues. The sports forum has always been moderated fine and the staff has involved itself in mostly all discussions. You came in here recently and you got upset over people talking about JJ Redick and Duke. You used your power to close threads/ban people because of it. i rarely ever see you post anything else in here, besides the NCAA thread, which you kicked me out of because you don't like me.

You say you want us to bring our friends here? If you're going to act like this, why would we want to bring them here?

I understand your moderation, but you make everything personal and as soon as the person says something about you, you ban them, even if you say things about them prior. Not everyone has the same opinion as you. Thats the beauty of the world. Discussion of different opinions to form a logical solution or so forth.

Just chill out for a little. You take everything far too seriously. Worst has been said about people, which have gone noticed, but let through because we know it is sarcastic or a joke.

We all respect what you've done with the site and frankly I don't even listen to half the music posted on here anymore, I just come here for the Sports forum. Don't start ruining it for your regulars because the regulars are the ones that give you consisted hits to your website.

[The Matt Kaufman]

Well said

[leftstranded]

probably doesn't help that school has started. and for some of us that means virtually no time on the sports forum

[histrionics22]

How many sports forum regulars got banned last night? I was wasted.

[Smithers]

don't worry everyone. The Carlos Beltran is better than you 2007 edition thread is coming back and it will bring this place out of the rut that it currently is in!!!!!

Just wait till my "matsuzaka once struck a guy out on 2 pitches" thread.

[Goodbye Forever]

cant wait for the game this season!

I'm ready right now.

[shOcktreAtmEnt]

I really haven't been here long enough to see what it was like before I joined. I'm sure it will be figured out. All I try to do is read whats going on, and discuss, and I every now I argue with someone. I hope I haven't been terrible

[Goodbye Forever]

I really haven't been here long enough to see what it was like before I joined. I'm sure it will be figured out. All I try to do is read whats going on, and discuss, and I every now I argue with someone. I hope I haven't been terrible

Other than being a Yankees/Giants fan you seem like a pretty cool guy. Seriously though, welcome aboard and stick around.

[Spicoli hey bud]

holy shit are red sox fans going to be outnumbered this season. that's no fun.

[livethesounds]

maybe its not such a bad thing...more variety of discussion?

everytime i would post anything NL related i just got a lot of "quit talking about the minor leagues" comments. haha

[bigmike]

Here are my two cents:

We all have a mutual respect for each other. We all call each other names in a sarcastic joking manner, but some people take words that they read on an internet message board far too seriously. It is sports and people come from different regions of the country and everyone is stubborn over their opinion. I understand why Mikeford was banned, but you have also banned people from threads on a whim. You say you consistently read these forums, but that is not true. Considering your fantasy league post when there have been multiple threads throughout the year discussing fantasy leagues. The sports forum has always been moderated fine and the staff has involved itself in mostly all discussions. You came in here recently and you got upset over people talking about JJ Redick and Duke. You used your power to close threads/ban people because of it. i rarely ever see you post anything else in here, besides the NCAA thread, which you kicked me out of because you don't like me.

You say you want us to bring our friends here? If you're going to act like this, why would we want to bring them here?

I understand your moderation, but you make everything personal and as soon as the person says something about you, you ban them, even if you say things about them prior. Not everyone has the same opinion as you. Thats the beauty of the world. Discussion of different opinions to form a logical solution or so forth.

Just chill out for a little. You take everything far too seriously. Worst has been said about people, which have gone noticed, but let through because we know it is sarcastic or a joke.

We all respect what you've done with the site and frankly I don't even listen to half the music posted on here anymore, I just come here for the Sports forum. Don't start ruining it for your regulars because the regulars are the ones that give you consisted hits to your website.
I just think Jason argues sports differently. He states his opinion on the matter and then you try to counter-argue and he says that it's his opinion therefore it cannot be argued (the beauty of opinions). Most of the sports forum, however, uses facts and stats and everything else of the sort to argue their side instead of just their opinion and being done with it.

[thatwasamoment]

I wasn't a member during baseball season; Cubs fans anyone?

[Jason Tate]

I just think Jason argues sports differently. He states his opinion on the matter and then you try to counter-argue and he says that it's his opinion therefore it cannot be argued (the beauty of opinions). Most of the sports forum, however, uses facts and stats and everything else of the sort to argue their side instead of just their opinion and being done with it.
I said that last night in defense of another user. I've always backed up my thoughts in this forum with stats and reasons.

This was done yesterday -- why are people still re-hashing this? Thread closed.