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Jason Tate
02/14/07, 12:42 PM
Yesterday’s House Armed Services Committee hearing on the war in Afghanistan “drew only the weakest of spotlights (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0207/2747.html).” Despite featuring testimony from Gen. Karl Eikenberry, the outgoing commander of all NATO troops in Afghanistan, “as the hearing was set to begin, the only member of the media on hand to hear Eikenberry was a camera guy from CNN doing a pool report.” Last year was the bloodiest (http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/01/afghanistan.html) since the United States overthrew the Taliban in 2001, and opium production “broke all records in 2006 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/01/AR2006120101654.html).”

MPS_
02/14/07, 05:59 PM
Ever read the book Zoya's Story? It brings some great insight into what life was and is still like in Afghanistan.

senatorlamb
02/14/07, 06:16 PM
Ever read the book Zoya's Story? It brings some great insight into what life was and is still like in Afghanistan.

Link pleae? what book is this.

MPS_
02/14/07, 09:35 PM
It's the story of an Afghani woman by the name of Zoya (she can't give her real/full name since she still works in Afghanistan) who works for RAWA (http://www.rawa.org/index.php) the Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan. Here's a link (http://www.amazon.com/Zoyas-Story-Afghan-Struggle-Freedom/dp/0060097833/sr=8-1/qid=1171514558/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2898787-4619064?ie=UTF8&s=books) to the book on Amazon.

captainhampton
02/14/07, 10:12 PM
we have more troops there now than ever, what are you talking about?

Love As Arson
02/14/07, 10:18 PM
The Afghani government only controls Kabul and the US acknowledged this by making deals with the warlords. So, one must ask:

Has anything really changed, other than who is conducting the repression?

DISJosh
02/16/07, 12:51 PM
we have more troops there now than ever, what are you talking about?

I dont want to speak for anyone, but I believe this thread was started because the people of the United States, and the media have forgotten about the "other war." The problem is that the government has went out of its way to censor what we can been shown, and the media controlls most peoples interest in what is happening with our country. Its sad to see that people arent concerned with whats going on in Afghanistan, but when you have a President that is starting problems all over the Middle East its kind of hard to keep up with whats going on and where.

Jason Tate
02/16/07, 01:27 PM
In a February 16 New York Times article (http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/16/washington/16prexy.html?ex=1329282000&en=2d6071b5ff100498&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss) on President Bush's February 15 speech (http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/02/20070215-1.html), Times White House correspondent Sheryl Gay Stolberg reported that the "speech renewed criticism from Democrats that had the United States not been tied down in Iraq, the situation in Afghanistan would not have turned dire." But, contrary to Stolberg's suggestion, numerous experts from both parties -- not just Democrats -- have attributed the increasingly dire situation in Afghanistan to the ongoing diversion of U.S. resources to the Iraq war.
From the February 16 article:
The remarks, to the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative research organization here, amounted to an unusually high-profile acknowledgment from Mr. Bush of the precarious state of the effort to stabilize Afghanistan, a country the administration long held up as a foreign policy success story.
The speech renewed criticism from Democrats that had the United States not been tied down in Iraq, the situation in Afghanistan would not have turned dire. At the same time, some Republican lawmakers said Mr. Bush's new strategy would not do enough to tamp down the Afghan drug trade. Outside experts criticized the president for painting too rosy a picture.
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As Iraq has dominated the American psyche, some lawmakers, most recently the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi of California, have called Afghanistan "the forgotten war." The Democratic National Committee, responding to Mr. Bush's speech on Thursday, issued a statement saying, "The Bush administration took its eye off the ball in Afghanistan."
In fact, it is not just Democrats who have argued that the diversion of military and policymaking resources to Iraq in the nearly four years since the U.S. invasion there has contributed to the recent resurgence of the Taliban in Afghanistan. For instance, the report (http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.usip.org/isg/iraq_study_group_report/report/1206/iraq_study_group_report.pdf) released by the bipartisan Iraq Study Group in December 2006 noted that the mission in Afghanistan has "been complicated by the overriding focus of U.S. attention and resources on Iraq," adding that the longer U.S. forces stay in Iraq, the higher the probability that the situation in Afghanistan will deteriorate.
From the report:
The situation in Iraq is linked with events in the region. U.S. efforts in Afghanistan have been complicated by the overriding focus of U.S. attention and resources on Iraq. [Page 24 (http://www.google.com/rd?http://www.usip.org/isg/iraq_study_group_report/report/1206/iraq_study_group_report.pdf#page=24 )]
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And the longer that U.S. political and military resources are tied down in Iraq, the more the chances for American failure in Afghanistan increase. [Page 28 (http://www.google.com/rd?http://www.usip.org/isg/iraq_study_group_report/report/1206/iraq_study_group_report.pdf#page=28 )]
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The huge focus of U.S. political, military, and economic support on Iraq has necessarily diverted attention from Afghanistan. As the United States develops its approach toward Iraq and the Middle East, it must also give priority to the situation in Afghanistan. Doing so may require increased political, security, and military measures. [Page 41 (http://www.google.com/rd?http://www.usip.org/isg/iraq_study_group_report/report/1206/iraq_study_group_report.pdf#page=41 )]
By contrast to the Times, in a February 16 article (http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20070216/a_bush16.art.htm) on Bush's speech, USA Today noted the ISG's assessment:
Bush noted that 2006 was the most violent year in Afghanistan since the 2001 liberation, with the Taliban and al-Qaeda launching strikes against Afghan President Hamid Karzai's new government in Kabul. Last year, the bipartisan Iraq Study Group led by former Secretary of State James Baker and former congressman Lee Hamilton said "the huge focus of U.S. political, military and economic support on Iraq has necessarily diverted attention from Afghanistan."
Similarly, in an article (http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/15/AR2007021500171.html) on the speech, The Washington Post quoted James Dobbins, director of the International Security and Defense Policy Center at the Rand Corp., stating that Iraq has "suck[ed] the air out" of U.S. policymaking efforts in Afghanistan:
"The focus on Iraq has definitely diminished not just the amount of resources that can be applied ... but it's also a question of the time and attention that top policymakers can spend on the problem," said James Dobbins, a former special envoy to Afghanistan who now works as a national security analyst at the Rand Corp. "Iraq has tended to suck the air out of the system for the last couple of years."

rikfrommf
02/16/07, 09:52 PM
Obama mentioned re-deploying some of the US forces in Iraq to Afghanistan to help stabilize the region, as well as sending reserves home.

IAPAI
02/17/07, 10:56 AM
In Canada we hear a lot more about Afghanistan because it is where all of our troops are being sent. But it's absolutely getting worse, no doubt about it.

YouMadeTheScene
02/17/07, 03:16 PM
When will the west learn its extremely difficult to occupy a hostile country.

Well, after our occupation in Japan, the US has figured it'd be easy to just turn a country around. Unfortunately, the Japanese people were very easily molded as they listened to whatever their leader said as they believed he was divine. After that, it has been one catastrophe after another. We are still in Korea trying to maintain peace, Vietnam was well Vietnam, and now there is Iraq and Afghanistan.

AnF1500
02/17/07, 07:41 PM
Eh the media is always attempting to distract us from important issuses. Now theyre waving their hand in one direction to Iran so we won't look at Iraq. Some girl on my floor at lunch the other day attempted to claim that we had already succeded in Afghanistan so we'll have no problem with Iraw.
She was a complete idiot though, but unfortunaltey I've heard similar responses several times.

thejetstolehome
02/17/07, 07:48 PM
to be fair, there was some success in Afghanistan--it just didn't last long.