Female president

[Blocked_Signals]

Do you honestly think electing a female for president is a good idea?
What if she has cronic PMS. :-(
What if that week she goes crazy and decides to bomb Iraq to bits or soemthing?

Also a black dude is running...I don't know what my opinion is on that.

I want Al Gore to run again. :-)

[myworstmistakes]

leave.

amongst other things, you are a disgrace to females.

[Melissa Johnson]

Seeing as how the female that's running is in her 50's, PMS isn't an excuse. She can't get PMS due to the fact that she's already beyond the stage of menopause.
Also, what is so bad about him not being white? It's a skin color, if he's an able bodied person, who's to say he can't make a good leader?

IN closing, you're an idiot.

[Blocked_Signals]

No I'm not.
I'm just not a feminist.
When I'm on PMS I feel like blowing up things too.

[thejetstolehome]

the only thing we should take seriously out of that post is "I want Al Gore to run." everything else should be disregarded.

[myworstmistakes]

Main Entry: fem·i·nism
Function: noun
Pronunciation: 'fe-m&-"ni-z&m</I>
1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes</I>


so if you don't believe that, then you're saying women aren't equal to men.
therefore, you are a disgrace.</I>

[Melissa Johnson]

No I'm not.
I'm just not a feminist.
When I'm on PMS I feel like blowing up things too.
She's not a "feminist" either by the standards you are thinking of. Also, once again, she CANNOT GET PMS.
So yes, you are an idiot. Not only for your stupid bases for your judgements of candidates, but also because you don't even understand your own gender's body and aging process.

[Blocked_Signals]

Seeing as how the female that's running is in her 50's, PMS isn't an excuse. She can't get PMS due to the fact that she's already beyond the stage of menopause.
Also, what is so bad about him not being white? It's a skin color, if he's an able bodied person, who's to say he can't make a good leader?
Oh I never thought about that. I guess your right.
I take it back.
Now the only problem left with her is that she is a democrat.

Naw man I have nothing against his skin color.
But the fact that everyone is going to freak out about this makes me mad.
sure, he might be the first black president....but if white people say ANYTHING at all we will be called racist.
I live in the south and it's a big deal down here.

[Jason Tate]

Main Entry: fem·i·nism
Function: noun
Pronunciation: 'fe-m&-"ni-z&m</I>
1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes</I>


so if you don't believe that, then you're saying women aren't equal to men.
therefore, you are a disgrace.</I>
Ok, that was definitely funny.

[Jason Tate]

Oh I never thought about that. I guess your right.
I take it back.
Now the only problem left with her is that she is a democrat.

Naw man I have nothing against his skin color.
But the fact that everyone is going to freak out about this makes me mad.
sure, he might be the first black president....but if white people say ANYTHING at all we will be called racist.
I live in the south and it's a big deal down here.
So then wouldn't the obvious solution be to not say anything about his race and instead focus on his policies and opinions on relevant issues?

[richter915]

Hillary's already experienced menopause? like, it's been documented?

[thejetstolehome]

So then wouldn't the obvious solution be to not say anything about his race and instead focus on his policies and opinions on relevant issues?

no. that would make entirely too much sense.

[myworstmistakes]

Ok, that was definitely funny.

how?

[thejetstolehome]

Oh I never thought about that. I guess your right.
I take it back.
Now the only problem left with her is that she is a democrat.

Naw man I have nothing against his skin color.
But the fact that everyone is going to freak out about this makes me mad.
sure, he might be the first black president....but if white people say ANYTHING at all we will be called racist.
I live in the south and it's a big deal down here.

the following statement begs to differ: Also a black dude is running...I don't know what my opinion is on that.

[Melissa Johnson]

Oh I never thought about that. I guess your right.
I take it back.
Now the only problem left with her is that she is a democrat.

Naw man I have nothing against his skin color.
But the fact that everyone is going to freak out about this makes me mad.
sure, he might be the first black president....but if white people say ANYTHING at all we will be called racist.
I live in the south and it's a big deal down here.
Who cares? We have a republican president now who can't govern this country worth a shit and has the worst approval rating than any other president in history. If she's able to dig us out of the whole her predecessor dug us into, then what's the matter with her political party?

If his skin color didn't matter to you, you would have NEVER ever brought up the fact that he was black.

[Blocked_Signals]

I'm sorry guys.
I guess I can't really put into words what I meant.
And no I'm sorry I honestly did forget that we do not have pms when we are like 50.

You'll probably hate me for this too o_o;; but women and men aren't equal.

[Jason Tate]

Hillary's already experienced menopause? like, it's been documented?
The average onset (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menopause) of menopause is 50.5 years, but some women enter menopause at a younger age.

Odds are, yes she has.

[Jason Tate]

how?
Cause it's true.

[Melissa Johnson]

Hillary's already experienced menopause? like, it's been documented?
She's in her mid-50s, women experience menopause from their late 30's to late 40s at the latest, so yes, she has.

[Blocked_Signals]

the following statement begs to differ:
How else am I going to describe him?
I don't know his name.

[Jason Tate]

She's in her mid-50s, women experience menopause from their late 30's to late 40s at the latest, so yes, she has.
She's 60, born in 1947.

[myworstmistakes]

Cause it's true.


oh. ok. wasn't sure if it was a jab.

[Jason Tate]

How else am I going to describe him?
I don't know his name.
Shocking.

His name is Barack Obama.

[Jason Tate]

oh. ok. wasn't sure if it was a jab.
At her -- yes. ;-)

[myworstmistakes]

How else am I going to describe him?
I don't know his name.

if you don't know his name then maybe you should learn it and more about him before you blab on about this subject.

[Melissa Johnson]

I'm sorry guys.
I guess I can't really put into words what I meant.
And no I'm sorry I honestly did forget that we do not have pms when we are like 50.

You'll probably hate me for this too o_o;; but women and men aren't equal.
How do you figure that, besides their genitals and genetic makeup?

[Melissa Johnson]

She's 60, born in 1947.
Then that totally makes my argument even more true.

[Jason Tate]

How do you figure that, besides their genitals and genetic makeup?
Go make me a sammich?

:idea:

[thejetstolehome]

How else am I going to describe him?
I don't know his name.

hahahahahahahahaahahahaha, wow. in that case, you have no business even discussing politics. stop now before you put your foot even deeper into your mouth.

[myworstmistakes]

How do you figure that, besides their genitals and genetic makeup?

yes, do explain.

i'm dying to know what makes me oh so inferior.

[thejetstolehome]

Go make me a sammich?

:idea:

that made me lol.

[Blocked_Signals]

Who cares? We have a republican president now who can't govern this country worth a shit and has the worst approval rating than any other president in history. If she's able to dig us out of the whole her predecessor dug us into, then what's the matter with her political party?

If his skin color didn't matter to you, you would have NEVER ever brought up the fact that he was black.
I admit bush is a complete IDIOT.
But that doesn't mean all republicans are.

dude...everyone where I live says "black people"
even the black people!
I AM NOT RACIST.
I may not have been clear. I opoligize.
But the fact that he is an African American ( BETTER???? geez )
is something to talk about. Or where I am it is.
My friends and I were discussing it and I wanted to know what yall thought.

[Blocked_Signals]

hahahahahahahahaahahahaha, wow. in that case, you have no business even discussing politics. stop now before you put your foot even deeper into your mouth.
hahaha I know!
Sorry!
I guess I should think before I post! xD

[Melissa Johnson]

I admit bush is a complete IDIOT.
But that doesn't mean all republicans are.

dude...everyone where I live says "black people"
even the black people!
I AM NOT RACIST.
I may not have been clear. I opoligize.
But the fact that he is an African American ( BETTER???? geez )
is something to talk about. Or where I am it is.
My friends and I were discussing it and I wanted to know what yall thought.
No, you could learn his NAME.

See, I don't know your name, but I could create a thread saying "that one dipshit southern hick was pretending she knew politics" but, now that wouldn't be right of me would it?

[Jason Tate]

I admit bush is a complete IDIOT.
But that doesn't mean all republicans are.

dude...everyone where I live says "black people"
even the black people!
I AM NOT RACIST.
I may not have been clear. I opoligize.
But the fact that he is an African American ( BETTER???? geez )
is something to talk about. Or where I am it is.
My friends and I were discussing it and I wanted to know what yall thought.
Or just don't even address the race issue and instead look at his policies and opinions on issues.

This seems logical and rational to me.

[Melissa Johnson]

Go make me a sammich?

:idea:
Peanut butter here has a salmonella recall, I don't think you want me to make you a sammich.

[myworstmistakes]

I admit bush is a complete IDIOT.
But that doesn't mean all republicans are.

dude...everyone where I live says "black people"
even the black people!
I AM NOT RACIST.
I may not have been clear. I opoligize.
But the fact that he is an African American ( BETTER???? geez )
is something to talk about. Or where I am it is.
My friends and I were discussing it and I wanted to know what yall thought.


this is the problem, the fact that he is black shouldn't be something that is really worth discussing. that is the point we are trying to make here. leaders should be chosen based on their stance on issues and the like and NOT on what they look like.

[Blocked_Signals]

if you don't know his name then maybe you should learn it and more about him before you blab on about this subject.
I'm sorry your right.
I should have done some research. :[
I guess you guys are obvioulsy really serious about politics in this forum.

[thejetstolehome]

I admit bush is a complete IDIOT.
But that doesn't mean all republicans are.

dude...everyone where I live says "black people"
even the black people!
I AM NOT RACIST.
I may not have been clear. I opoligize.
But the fact that he is an African American ( BETTER???? geez )
is something to talk about. Or where I am it is.
My friends and I were discussing it and I wanted to know what yall thought.

i say black people too but it has no bearing on whether or not i'll vote for a candidate based on that. you specifically said, you didn't know how you felt about a black guy running which obviously means you have some sort of problem with it. if you don't even know his name (Senator Barack Obama, D-IL, by the way), then you obviously don't know any of his stances on the issues so the only reason you "don't know what you feel" is because of his race which is, in fact, racist.

[love2hateme]

I really don't want a female president ya ya it will be the first and she might do good but I am worried about foreign affairs there are countries that dislike women soo what make you think they will work with us with her in charge.

[myworstmistakes]

I'm sorry your right.
I should have done some research. :[
I guess you guys are obvioulsy really serious about politics in this forum.

seriously, actively informing yourself beyond what the media (and apparently the people you live around) feeds you is what is most important for you to make an informed decision. please do so, this country needs more of that.

[Melissa Johnson]

I really don't want a female president ya ya it will be the first and she might do good but I am worried about foreign affairs there are countries that dislike women soo what make you think they will work with us with her in charge.
So, you don't want a female because you think other countries will dislike the US? Sorry, hun, but here's a news flash: foreign countries already hate us, because of our MALE leader.

[Blocked_Signals]

this is the problem, the fact that he is black shouldn't be something that is really worth discussing. that is the point we are trying to make here. leaders should be chosen based on their stance on issues and the like and NOT on what they look like.
Yea yea! THATS RIGHT.
SO WHY IS EVERY BLACK PERSON ON THIS ENTIRE GODFORSAKEN COUNTRY FREAKING OUT!?
They should not be talking about his skin color.
But thats what they are doing.
One lady commented:
"It's empowering the black community"
like what is she talking about?
it sounded like she wanted to take over the world or something.

[thejetstolehome]

I'm sorry your right.
I should have done some research. :[
I guess you guys are obvioulsy really serious about politics in this forum.

the future of the country is something we tend to take seriously, yea.

[Blocked_Signals]

I really don't want a female president ya ya it will be the first and she might do good but I am worried about foreign affairs there are countries that dislike women soo what make you think they will work with us with her in charge.
Hey thats something to think about.
They might not even take our country seriosuly anymore.

[Melissa Johnson]

Yea yea! THATS RIGHT.
SO WHY IS EVERY BLACK PERSON ON THIS ENTIRE GODFORSAKEN COUNTRY FREAKING OUT!?
They should not be talking about his skin color.
But thats what they are doing.
One lady commented:
"It's empowering the black community"
like what is she talking about?
it sounded like she wanted to take over the world or something.
Because maybe, just maybe, having a candidate who understands them might make them want to go out and vote and participate in elections?

[Melissa Johnson]

Hey thats something to think about.
They might not even take our country seriosuly anymore.
They don't already.

[Jason Tate]

Yea yea! THATS RIGHT.
SO WHY IS EVERY BLACK PERSON ON THIS ENTIRE GODFORSAKEN COUNTRY FREAKING OUT!?
They should not be talking about his skin color.
But thats what they are doing.
One lady commented:
"It's empowering the black community"
like what is she talking about?
it sounded like she wanted to take over the world or something.
Troll. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29)

[thejetstolehome]

Hey thats something to think about.
They might not even take our country seriosuly anymore.

wow. so people don't take Ireland, Finland, or Switzerland seriously? 'cause they all have female heads of state. stop talking.

[love2hateme]

So, you don't want a female because you think other countries will dislike the US? Sorry, hun, but here's a news flash: foreign countries already hate us, because of our MALE leader.

but having a women would be better? I don't want her as a president not that I don't want a women. this election I would rather see Rudy Giuliani win.

[Blocked_Signals]

They don't already.
hahahahaha yea I thought about that right after I posted it I was like "hey..wait a minute lol"

[aminorthreat55]

Yea yea! THATS RIGHT.
SO WHY IS EVERY BLACK PERSON ON THIS ENTIRE GODFORSAKEN COUNTRY FREAKING OUT!?
They should not be talking about his skin color.
But thats what they are doing.
One lady commented:
"It's empowering the black community"
like what is she talking about?
it sounded like she wanted to take over the world or something.
Nice generalization asshole.

[aminorthreat55]

wow. so people don't take Ireland, Finland, or Switzerland seriously? 'cause they all have female heads of state. stop talking.
Finland is awesome.

[Jason Tate]

I really don't want a female president ya ya it will be the first and she might do good but I am worried about foreign affairs there are countries that dislike women soo what make you think they will work with us with her in charge.
Please give an example of a country that dislikes women and therefore won't work with her, and the catch is it has to be a country that currently does work with is.

Margaret Thatcher would kick all your asses.

[Melissa Johnson]

but having a women would be better? I don't want her as a president not that I don't want a women. this election I would rather see Rudy Giuliani win.
There are many countries that have women leaders and have had women leaders. We're one of the oldest established countries in the world who have still not had a female leader. So saying that countries would dislike us wouldn't be a good excuse to say "no" to a women president, especially since women have shown they can be political leaders.
I'd rather see a manatee as president than Giuliani.

[konstantine94]

I really don't want a female president ya ya it will be the first and she might do good but I am worried about foreign affairs there are countries that dislike women soo what make you think they will work with us with her in charge.

Actually, Pakistan had a female prime minister already (Benazir Bhutto), so I think it's about time that the U.S. had one too.

[Jason Tate]

but having a women would be better? I don't want her as a president not that I don't want a women. this election I would rather see Rudy Giuliani win.
Giuliani? Oh you have to be kidding me.

[love2hateme]

wow. so people don't take Ireland, Finland, or Switzerland seriously? 'cause they all have female heads of state. stop talking.

but last time I checked Ireland, Finland , and Switzerland wasn't the leading country in the world...............nope

[Burning Star IV]

Finland is awesome.
they sure like their saunas

[konstantine94]

Giuliani? Oh you have to be kidding me.

Ready to explode, Tate?

[Jason Tate]

Hey thats something to think about.
They might not even take our country seriosuly anymore.
Anymore? :rolleyes:

[konstantine94]

but last time I checked Ireland, Finland , and Switzerland wasn't the leading country in the world...............nope

Just because they aren't considered one of the major world powers does not mean people don't take them seriously.

[thejetstolehome]

but last time I checked Ireland, Finland , and Switzerland wasn't the leading country in the world...............nope

alright, so when Margret Thatcher was Prime Minister people stopped taking the UK seriously?

[Melissa Johnson]

but last time I checked Ireland, Finland , and Switzerland wasn't the leading country in the world...............nope
But they ARE countries that we would have to deal with in foreign affairs. Other major countries in the world have had female leaders as well.

[thejetstolehome]

this is so much better than studying for my Political Theory midterm.

[thejetstolehome]

Just because they aren't considered one of the major world powers does not mean people don't take them seriously.

But they ARE countries that we would have to deal with in foreign affairs. Other major countries in the world have had female leaders as well.

yup.

[Jason Tate]

but last time I checked Ireland, Finland , and Switzerland wasn't the leading country in the world...............nope
Irrelevant. You said they wouldn't work with someone who is a woman. That's all that's at stake, our worldly position is completely irrelevant if they'll work with us.

Give me one example of a country that will stop working with us -- one please.

[love2hateme]

all I know is I'm not voting for her

[Burning Star IV]

There are many countries that have women leaders and have had women leaders. We're one of the oldest established countries in the world who have still not had a female leader. So saying that countries would dislike us wouldn't be a good excuse to say "no" to a women president, especially since women have shown they can be political leaders.
I'd rather see a manatee as president than Giuliani.
even Canada had a female leader... for about 4 or 5 months

[Melissa Johnson]

this is so much better than studying for my Political Theory midterm.
So much better than contributing to my online Russian history discussions. Yet ANOTHER country that's had it's share of women as leaders.

[thejetstolehome]

all I know is I'm not voting for her

and i probably won't either but that doesn't discredit every female leader that there is/has been in the world.

[Melissa Johnson]

all I know is I'm not voting for her
That's you're stand to have, but for your reasons, all that you're doing is regressing what so many women have worked decades for and died/went to prison for.

[konstantine94]

I still can't believe Pakistan has had a female leader and we haven't. Women were always allowed to vote in Islamic law too. We're considered ahead in women's rights though.

[myworstmistakes]

all I know is I'm not voting for her

whoa whoa. you can't go from "i don't want a woman president" to "i just don't want hillary as president" it doesn't work that way, they are completely separate issues.

[aminorthreat55]

all I know is I'm not voting for her
And based on what you've said so far in this thread, that really is all you know.

[thejetstolehome]

So much better than contributing to my online Russian history discussions. Yet ANOTHER country that's had it's share of women as leaders.

oo that sounds like fun!

[Jason Tate]

all I know is I'm not voting for her
I probably won't either.

Although, I'm now worried you'll be old enough to vote in the first place if you have the mindset you've presented in this thread.

[Jason Tate]

whoa whoa. you can't go from "i don't want a woman president" to "i just don't want hillary as president" it doesn't work that way, they are completely separate issues.
:appl:

[Jason Tate]

And based on what you've said so far in this thread, that really is all you know.
:lolatpost: