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angie710
07/24/03, 03:28 AM
http://gccirclepitt.com/magscans/suicidesong.jpg

angie710
07/24/03, 03:58 AM
Does anyone else think this is craziness?

evil zach
07/24/03, 04:12 AM
Thats just dumb. Why not attack TV shows and movies as well? Oh thats right, adults enjoy many of the same movies and TV shows as teens do, so it obviously music that causes them to kill themselves. I'm not sure why a 40 year old accountant would commit suicide though. He's probably never even heard of Good Charlotte or Blink 182. It must have been the Ozzy Osbourn record he listend to in high school.

MaybeOneDay
07/24/03, 04:15 AM
I think that's nut's. but they cant blame the music. It was all up to jessie. it was her choice. she decided to take her own life. her parent's are paying for that decision. end of story.

angie710
07/24/03, 04:26 AM
That story left me with a very bad feeling inside...I dont like it...Its so unnecessary...So sad...I know what its like to lose somebody so young due to something so careless...Something that could have been prevented...

nikukia
07/24/03, 04:38 AM
wow. they obviously cant see that something was fucked up in her life, 2 songs did not make her say "well im going to kill myself now" thats a sad story but you cant blame it on the music.

Greg
07/24/03, 04:44 AM
the parnets are blaming the music cause they now it's their fault for not doing something themselves or even knowing about it....

evil zach
07/24/03, 04:59 AM
How in the hell would you expect them to know about it? Most kids don't come home from school and say "hey mom guess what! I want to kill myself!" I'm not saying the music is to blam, but the parents arn't either

**michelleV**
07/24/03, 05:01 AM
i think this girl just wanted some attention, and i love Addam's Song

evil zach
07/24/03, 05:11 AM
People don't commit suicide to get attention.

angie710
07/24/03, 05:11 AM
Im sorry, but there had to have been something wrong with this girl mentally for her to be capable of taking her own life....The songs she chose just enabled her to do so more freely....In her own mind that is...

**michelleV**
07/24/03, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by evil zach
People don't commit suicide to get attention. i think some people do commit suicide just for attention. They want people to know that they were unhappy and no one seemed to notice that they weren't ok

scott
07/24/03, 05:48 AM
Originally posted by **michelleV**
i think some people do commit suicide just for attention. They want people to know that they were unhappy and no one seemed to notice that they weren't ok

attention holds no meaning when you no longer exist

**michelleV**
07/24/03, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by scott
attention holds no meaning when you no longer exist well they probably don't realize that like angie said there must have been something mentally wrong w/ the girl

oc_dodo
07/24/03, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by angie710
http://gccirclepitt.com/magscans/suicidesong.jpg
it's disturbing yes, but it is also fucking stupid. not the story but the girl. why the hell would anyone blame music for taking their life.........what an idiot this girl was. i know it sounds mean but if your going to kill yourself over something stupid like lyrics then she deserved to die. and i don't care what anyone else thinks.

Billy
07/24/03, 06:16 AM
It was posted on the news page also

**michelleV**
07/24/03, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by oc_dodo
it's disturbing yes, but it is also fucking stupid. not the story but the girl. why the hell would anyone blame music for taking their life.........what an idiot this girl was. i know it sounds mean but if your going to kill yourself over something stupid like lyrics then she deserved to die. and i don't care what anyone else thinks. come on billy no one deserves to die. but it is stupid to blame the music.

Charlito Cafe
07/24/03, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by evil zach
People don't commit suicide to get attention.

The attention getters are the one's who talk about it all the time, but never go through with it. Maybe a few half-attempts, but they never actually kill themselves. The people who actually kill themselves probably don't want attention.

MaybeOneDay
07/24/03, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by scott
attention holds no meaning when you no longer exist

took the words right out of my mouth

**michelleV**
07/24/03, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by Charlito Cafe
The attention getters are the one's who talk about it all the time, but never go through with it. Maybe a few half-attempts, but they never actually kill themselves. The people who actually kill themselves probably don't want attention. good point

Matthew
07/24/03, 06:58 AM
My favorite part of the article is the end where the Psychiatrist is like "It's interesting that these groups that sing about suicide are, themselves, still alive."

NO FUCKING SHIT.

fezwik80
07/24/03, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by evil zach
How in the hell would you expect them to know about it? Most kids don't come home from school and say "hey mom guess what! I want to kill myself!" I'm not saying the music is to blam, but the parents arn't either you need to realize the world is a really fucked up place to some people and they can find reason to end their lives from snythign but what they choose to put it on is up to them even if it makes no sense

Billy
07/24/03, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by **michelleV**
come on billy no one deserves to die. but it is stupid to blame the music.
WHAT?

evil zach
07/24/03, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by fezwik80
you need to realize the world is a really fucked up place to some people and they can find reason to end their lives from snythign but what they choose to put it on is up to them even if it makes no sense
What you need to realize is that I've attempted suicide in the past so i have a pretty good ideas as to what I'm talking about.

fezwik80
07/24/03, 07:23 AM
Originally posted by **michelleV**
i think some people do commit suicide just for attention. They want people to know that they were unhappy and no one seemed to notice that they weren't ok do you suffer from dipshit syndrome or somehting? how would killing yourself get you attention when attention for people who want it is only enjoyed while basking in it and how can you do that when you are fucking dead?

fezwik80
07/24/03, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by evil zach
What you need to realize is that I've attempted suicide in the past so i have a pretty good ideas as to what I'm talking about. wow! holy fucking shit why do you think i know what it is im talking about? yea your the only one pal, i have no clue and im just guessing. you dont know me ro my past so pretend like you do

neb nawoc
07/24/03, 10:19 AM
Whats really pisses me off is how they bash on Adam's song, even Blink 182 themselves say that song is not about suicide, its about going on tour, even if it was about suicide, its no condoning it.

BrandNewRock05
07/24/03, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by neb nawoc
Whats really pisses me off is how they bash on Adam's song, even Blink 182 themselves say that song is not about suicide, its about going on tour, even if it was about suicide, its no condoning it. "the tour is over I'd survived"

neb nawoc
07/24/03, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by BrandNewRock05
"the tour is over I'd survived"

exactly.

BrandNewRock05
07/24/03, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by neb nawoc
exactly.
but you cant blame people for thinking its a suicide song..."i never thought i'd die alone, another six months ill be unknown, give all my things to all my friends, you'll never set foot in my room again, you'll close it off, board it up,remember the time that i spilt the cup of apple juice in the hall, please tell mom this is not her fault...."

Greg
07/24/03, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by neb nawoc
Whats really pisses me off is how they bash on Adam's song, even Blink 182 themselves say that song is not about suicide, its about going on tour, even if it was about suicide, its no condoning it.

it's about thiking about suicide. then deciding not to go through with it.

MapleLeaf
07/24/03, 11:05 AM
i saw this before.

cats and dogs are barking? that doesnt make any fucking sense. if she really did kill herself becuase of that song she deserved to die anyway.

torch
07/24/03, 11:43 AM
Zach, people kill themselves for different reasons, because people get depressed in different ways. Whether it be manic depressant, or because the majority of their life, they've been treated like shit or other crap like that. So zach you're no expert, you're just coming from one point of view.

Also, i don't know the GC song, but adam's song is not "glorifying suicide" at all. I thought it was about suicide, but from a negative side. But i guess it is about touring.

BrandNewDream
07/24/03, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Charlito Cafe
The attention getters are the one's who talk about it all the time, but never go through with it. Maybe a few half-attempts, but they never actually kill themselves. The people who actually kill themselves probably don't want attention.

The people who talk so much do NOT want to kill themselves. The people who do, on the other hand, realize that this is NOT a healthy thing, and don't talk about it. The people who want attention will show you scars on their arms from the razors last night. If you want to kill yourself and you honestly want to die, you will. There is no failed suicide.

MapleLeaf
07/24/03, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
The people who talk so much do NOT want to kill themselves. The people who do, on the other hand, realize that this is NOT a healthy thing, and don't talk about it. The people who want attention will show you scars on their arms from the razors last night. If you want to kill yourself and you honestly want to die, you will. There is no failed suicide.

i call bullshit on that one.

Ronin
07/24/03, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
The people who talk so much do NOT want to kill themselves. The people who do, on the other hand, realize that this is NOT a healthy thing, and don't talk about it. The people who want attention will show you scars on their arms from the razors last night. If you want to kill yourself and you honestly want to die, you will. There is no failed suicide.

Hi, I'm a psychology major, and you are 100% dead wrong.

Clarett'sGreyGoose
07/24/03, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by BrandNewDream
The people who talk so much do NOT want to kill themselves. The people who do, on the other hand, realize that this is NOT a healthy thing, and don't talk about it. The people who want attention will show you scars on their arms from the razors last night. If you want to kill yourself and you honestly want to die, you will. There is no failed suicide.

you're an idiot. my friend was a failed suicide. his parents caught him trying to hang himself by his belt from his closet door. that was a failed suicide.

Tom Foolery
07/24/03, 02:13 PM
I don't know why this is a shock to everyone. Good Charlotte's music makes me want to kill myself too sometimes.

richter915
07/24/03, 02:17 PM
ya definitely, parents are just looking for a scapegoat...just like with Columbine...everyone blamed Manson and shit...he never told anyone to go kill kids at school and stuff...true music has influenced her partially...but there's more to the story that we'll never know.

ReFuSeD!
07/24/03, 03:01 PM
Adam's Song is half about suicide. Back when Blink was still a pretty young band, one of their fans sent them a letter talking about his life and how he was going to kill himself. Maybe the kid just sent the letter and didnt go through with it, I dont know, but I saw an interview with Blink about it.

They wrote the first 2 verses about suicide relating to Adam (the kid who sent the letter). The last verse is from Blink's point of view. It's how they used to get really depressed with touring and being away from home, but they got through it.

It's more or less about getting THROUGH suicide and realzing that tomorrow's another day.

blaarg
07/24/03, 03:51 PM
i'm sure blink 182 and good charlotte; two 'bands' that are more of a conglomerate of businessmen than artists would love for all their fans to commit suicide so they can be famous without the hassle of being rich.

"we came home and found our son dead of a gonshot wound, he had his headphones on and there was an ozzy record on the turntable, so we called our attourney." -dead kennedys

The Nephilm
07/25/03, 01:25 AM
Anyone that listens to GC and Blink deserves to die, period. There are no alternatives. I would be a happier person if everyone who owned a blink of GC album did the same thing this stupid bitch did and ended their own pathetic lives. They are just adding to the current bovine trend of the human race, and their deaths would no doubt do the world a lot of good.

On a side note, I wonder if the girl was depressed and then became happy all of a sudden at that bbq or whatever they said happened in the article... it's a telltale sign of suicide. Going from being depressed to being really happy is not always a good sign, as people become happy before they kill themselves because they know the depression will end when they die.

And as far as censoring the music goes, as much as I would like for GC and Blink to be banned forever, it would ruin all forms of free expression in music. The parents are fucking morons and should have realized their daughter was distressed. I don't care what they say, YOU CAN ALWAYS TELL WHEN SOMEONE IS NOT THEMSELVES. They were just bad parents, and are much more to blame for their daughters death than some shitty ass song.

NOFXdesendents5
07/25/03, 01:50 AM
Who gives a fuck what songs say? If the kid wants to kill themselves than they would be able to do it with or without instrumental aid. And the parents are dumbasses. Just cause she is happy on one occasion doesn't mean that she doesn't have a serious problem. Don't blame musicians, even if they are shit, cause all they wanna do is make music that they understand and like, or in GC and Blink182's case, make money.

angie710
07/25/03, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by Matthew
My favorite part of the article is the end where the Psychiatrist is like "It's interesting that these groups that sing about suicide are, themselves, still alive."

NO FUCKING SHIT.


I was thinking the same fucking thing...Funny...

brandnewfan9
07/25/03, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
Anyone that listens to GC and Blink deserves to die, period. There are no alternatives. I would be a happier person if everyone who owned a blink of GC album did the same thing this stupid bitch did and ended their own pathetic lives. They are just adding to the current bovine trend of the human race, and their deaths would no doubt do the world a lot of good.


What the fuck, call me a noob what ever i dont give a shit but man just because some people like pop bands like that doesnt mean they should die. im sure that almost everyone here has liked gc and blink at one time, i still like blink. you shouldnt wish death on people, cause once they die there is no comming back.

ifeelused
07/25/03, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by evil zach
People don't commit suicide to get attention.

yes, i think if they wanted attention they can just slit their wrists. committing suicide means they dont want to live anymore and want their misery to end

richter915
07/25/03, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
Anyone that listens to GC and Blink deserves to die, period. There are no alternatives. I would be a happier person if everyone who owned a blink of GC album did the same thing this stupid bitch did and ended their own pathetic lives. They are just adding to the current bovine trend of the human race, and their deaths would no doubt do the world a lot of good.

Dude, you're a fucking idiot. Why should someone be killed just for liking music? That's pure bullshit and you're a total moron. I mean it's true that if music can lead you to suicide and how she totally misinterpreted "Adam's Song" is a sign that something ain't right upstairs, but it doesn't mean she deserves to die. Everybody is making brash, uneducated conclusions from one little thing.

brightistar
07/25/03, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by richter915
Dude, you're a fucking idiot. Why should someone be killed just for liking music? That's pure bullshit and you're a total moron. I mean it's true that if music can lead you to suicide and how she totally misinterpreted "Adam's Song" is a sign that something ain't right upstairs, but it doesn't mean she deserves to die. Everybody is making brash, uneducated conclusions from one little thing.

yeah i agree

xxSpOoKsxx
07/25/03, 11:11 AM
that was pretty sad yet ridiculous. there had to be more to that girl. she must have had some problems, especially to take her own life. and probably one of the most dumbest things, to kill yourself because a song you like says too. thats pretty lame.

The Nephilm
07/25/03, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by richter915
Dude, you're a fucking idiot. Why should someone be killed just for liking music? That's pure bullshit and you're a total moron. I mean it's true that if music can lead you to suicide and how she totally misinterpreted "Adam's Song" is a sign that something ain't right upstairs, but it doesn't mean she deserves to die. Everybody is making brash, uneducated conclusions from one little thing.

I guess you missed that lesson in kindergaten called "sarcasm"

MapleLeaf
07/25/03, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by ifeelused
yes, i think if they wanted attention they can just slit their wrists. committing suicide means they dont want to live anymore and want their misery to end

that was equally as stupid as anything esle said in this thread.

richter915
07/25/03, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
I guess you missed that lesson in kindergaten called "sarcasm"

three paragraphs on sarcasm? no, that's your way of trying to get out of a bad situation. there are some things where sarcasm isn't too funny, i mean, if you killed your self, i'm sure you wouldn't like it if people were sarcastic when they talked about it.

fezwik80
07/25/03, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
I guess you missed that lesson in kindergaten called "sarcasm" lame dude you fucked up admit it

proeuthanasia
07/25/03, 09:53 PM
my mother does the same thing. she blames..certain moods of mine on the music i listen to. all the adults in my family do. does no one understand that music is sometimes the only thing that keeps me going? i'm sure some of you here are the same. music would never drive me to suicide. if anything, it prevents me from killing myself. that girl...there is NO way in hell that a song...much less such an easycore song like those of good charlotte and blink182..drove that girl to suicide. a song can influence you to think, sure. but it cannot be the sole reason for a suicide. people are strange. i didn't read the article, but i read her 'note' and it seems to me like she just might have killed herself for attention. many people do because they don't realize the full extent of what they're doing until it's too late. it's all in the mindset. and obviously, hers went wrong somewhere.

wild_goose
07/26/03, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by ifeelused
yes, i think if they wanted attention they can just slit their wrists

people don't cut themselves for attention

i've done it before. it distracts you.. and takes your mind of things.

ifeelused
07/26/03, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by Bannnnned
that was equally as stupid as anything esle said in this thread.

ok. well i know a few very dumb people that do that for attention, it may not be for everyone, but the people that put on the front like they have it so bad, just to have that kind of image, those are the ones that do it for the attention.

wild_goose
07/26/03, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by ifeelused
ok. well i know a few very dumb people that do that for attention, it may not be for everyone, but the people that put on the front like they have it so bad, just to have that kind of image, those are the ones that do it for the attention.

thats probably true.

The Nephilm
07/27/03, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by richter915
three paragraphs on sarcasm? no, that's your way of trying to get out of a bad situation. there are some things where sarcasm isn't too funny, i mean, if you killed your self, i'm sure you wouldn't like it if people were sarcastic when they talked about it.

I was being sarcastic when I said that anyone who listened to pop music should die.

However, I was dead serious when I said this idiot girl deserved to die for being dumb enough to kill herself because of a song that was sung by GC (my bet is they didn't even write it) I'm done being PC. Stupid people deserve to die.

BrandNewDream
07/27/03, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by The Nephilm
I'm done being PC. Stupid people deserve to die.

Why did you even start? Fuck pleasing other people, say what you want. Stupid people should all be shot.